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Scientists create 'artificial ionosphere' using radio waves(HAARP)

 
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London, October 4 : An experiment that fires powerful radio waves into the sky has created a patch of 'artificial ionosphere', mimicking the uppermost portion of Earth's atmosphere.

According to a report in Nature News, the experiment is called the 'High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program' (HAARP), near Gakona, Alaska.

It has spent nearly two decades using radio waves to probe Earth's magnetic field and ionosphere.

One of the most obvious results of the experiments is that they can create lights in the sky that are similar to auroras, the glowing curtains of light that naturally appear in the polar skies when electrons and other charged particles pour down from Earth's protective magnetosphere into the upper atmosphere.

There, at an altitude of about 250 kilometres, the charged particles collide with molecules of oxygen and nitrogen and make them emit light, similar to the process inside a fluorescent light bulb.

HAARP's high-frequency radio waves can accelerate electrons in the atmosphere, increasing the energy of their collisions and creating a glow.

The technique has previously triggered speckles of light while running at a power of almost 1 megawatt1.

But since the facility ramped up to 3.6 megawatts - roughly three times more than a typical broadcast radio transmitter - it has created full-scale artificial auroras that are visible to the naked eye.

But in February last year, HAARP managed to induce a strange bullseye pattern in the night sky.

Instead of the expected fuzzy, doughnut-shaped blob, surprising irregular luminescent bands radiated out from the centre of the bullseye, according to Todd Pedersen, a research physicist at the US Air Force Research Laboratory in Massachusetts, who leads the team that ran the experiment at HAARP

The team modelled how the energy sent skywards from the HAARP antenna array would trigger these odd shapes.

They determined that the areas of the bullseye with strange light patterns were in regions of denser, partially ionized gas in the atmosphere, as measured by ground-based high-frequency radar used to track the ionosphere.

The scientists believe that these dense patches of plasma could be gas that was ionized by the HAARP emissions.

"This is the really exciting part - we've made a little artificial piece of ionosphere," Pedersen said.

"The novelty is not seeing the aurora - it's the fact that we can actually create enough high-energy electrons to form plasma," said Mike Kosch, chair of Experimental Space Science at Lancaster University, UK.

"It shows something completely different and new that we hadn't expected. We didn't know we could do that from a radio array on the ground," he added.
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They do not know what they're playing with. Sooner or later they'll short the ionosphere with ground, and the whole facility will be fried with one GIANT lightning bolt (discharge).
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The same applies to weather modification.

The earth’s atmosphere is considered the classic example of a chaotic system. The “butterfly effect” is an oft-quoted example of a cause-and-effect relationship based on the tenets of chaos theory. In the example, chaos theory states that, because the earth’s atmosphere is chaotic, the simple action of a butterfly flapping its wings in Beijing is enough to cause a subtle change leading to, say, a tornado in Illinois (or any other Midwestern state) at some future date. The butterfly, however, did not cause the tornado in Illinois. Rather, the set of conditions in the atmosphere in Illinois was such that the effect caused by the butterfly flapping its wings was just enough to create the perfect conditions for a tornado to form. It could be just as likely that a moth flapping its wings in Chile would cancel out the effects of the butterfly. Chaos is all about many subtle variations in a system that make the system extremely difficult to understand and predict.
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I wouldn't be too worried about the so called "butterfly effect" with it comes to creating artificial storms. The weather system is so dynamic that it won't really matter.

FYI creating thunderstorms isn't very difficult if you have the right technology. Tesla was able to create storms on the spot at his Wardenclyffe facility.
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I wouldn't be too worried about the so called "butterfly effect" with it comes to creating artificial storms. The weather system is so dynamic that it won't really matter.

FYI creating thunderstorms isn't very difficult if you have the right technology. Tesla was able to create storms on the spot at his Wardenclyffe facility.
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Thunderstorms, pfft. That's benign. Let's talk hostile.
The ENMOD treaty prevents weather modification over a large scale of land. The US found ways to circumvent this.

On a typical mission aircraft would fly a seeding pattern consisting of between five and thirty parallel lines, each five to six miles long and 0.5 to 1.5 miles apart.

Storm modification:

ENERGY REACHING TOP OF ATMOSPHERE FROM THE SUN
-1340 WATTS/m2 = 1340 joules m-2 sec-1
–1.7 x 1017 joules sec-1 ≅ 4 x 107 Tons TNT sec-1 = 40 Megatons TNT sec-1

SMALL THUNDERSTORM
–7 x 109 joules sec-1 ≅ 2 Tons TNT sec-1

LARGE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM
–7 x 1011 joules sec-1 ≅ 200 Tons TNT sec-1

MAJOR STORM SYSTEM
–7 x 1013 joules sec-1 ≅ 20 Kilotons TNT sec-1

HURRICANE
–7 x 1014 joules sec-1 ≅ 200 Kilotons TNT sec-1
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"The novelty is not seeing the aurora - it's the fact that we can actually create enough high-energy electrons to form plasma," said Mike Kosch, chair of Experimental Space Science at Lancaster University, UK.

"It shows something completely different and new that we hadn't expected. We didn't know we could do that from a radio array on the ground," he added.>>

"Duh, I didn't know the gun was loaded!"

Hooboy, these guys are really pushing the envelope. I really hope they are at least half as smart as they think they are, for all our sakes.
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[link to www.haarp.alaska.edu]

Hummm something big fixing to happen?
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tomographic images of the ionosphere

[link to maestro.haarp.alaska.edu]

damned
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tomographic images of the ionosphere

[link to maestro.haarp.alaska.edu]

damned
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spiked
[link to geomag.usgs.gov]

[link to 137.229.36.30]
[link to maestro.haarp.alaska.edu]
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Great article about synthetic earthquake. An explanation by scientist.

[link to www.geocities.com]

Please read the web above, but I remind you not to discuss it.
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I wouldn't be too worried about the so called "butterfly effect" with it comes to creating artificial storms. The weather system is so dynamic that it won't really matter.

FYI creating thunderstorms isn't very difficult if you have the right technology. Tesla was able to create storms on the spot at his Wardenclyffe facility.
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