After 2012 = ANNASANN

...uh,what?

Hello Illuminator.

No lack of respect to you but I really need your answer on this.

You said :

"Soon there will be crossroad in your life, all of you, all of humans.
Two ways:
1. Follow path to Annasann, survive and live in a new wonderful word
2. All the others "options": fall and dead.

So, wise ones: live and let (them) die."



Isn't it an EGOistic view ? "live and let (them) die."

What Jesus did was the opposite. Dieing to let them live...

What is your view on this paradox ? What if I choose to stay to help others ? Am I doomed to stay here while others will move ?

all along just promises and púromises - thousand years ago it was too late for Great Disinfection.

Yes, they will survive, and these will be the people, the people of a New Brave World, ANNASANN. With cultures of old
but new, back to nature old but new, love old but new, life old but new, liberty old but new...etc

I welcome all who will join me with respect, no attacks, compassion for other posters, to gather here for constructive communing, conversation exchanging knowledge of skills, and ideas. Such as gardening, planting, seeds, irrigation, waterwheels, quilting, canning. etc The old but new simple ways to live in respect and love with Mother Nature. Living today is much like living the past. It is time we live tomorrow.

Now, everybody knows Bowhunter's and Yoda's ancestors are of native culture, so we tend to lean towards nature quite naturaly, but all others are welcome. Combined (united)
old but new. Memory of respect and compassion, no attacks.

FS, your love for waterwheels and skills will be very useful tomorrow.
Sugarelf, your ability with numbers and such, very useful tomorrow.
Malkut, gardening and such, you have that touch, very useful tomorrow.
Nine's, the love and understanding, oh your sewing skills very useful tomorrow.
Nanuke, the knowledge of living tomorrow I hope you continue
to share, very useful tomorrow.

Phil, ZA, Tooken, Yulga, Darza, Lotus, Ladywolf, anyone else I may have left out....AC's also, please name yourselves whatever you wish.

Please, I ask for this thread to be a Valley of Peace.

Grace to all of you.

Fiat Lux

Nature: Getting outside as much as possible to develope knowledge and awareness. This is how we get to know our place in the world.

Skills: In order to live and care for our loved ones, we need skills. Skills keep us safe outside, used for our re-creation and livelihood.

Culture: How we interact with one another and the natural world. Culture can and does chamge. With this understanding, we can change our culture to be more fulfilling and healthy and sane for our children and their's to come. For ANNASANN!

Adventure: Living an adventurous life teaches courage and how to make the best of what comes our way.

Fiat Lux

Thanks for taking the time to answer me. Yes I know what you mean.

Sorry if my posts are so inquisitive, but you seem to fit so well in my "guru" box, it's very hard for me to trust you fully.

It is because you often insist on your spiritual purity, and present yourself as a bearer of Truth. But you also use a "Us VS Them" rethoric, light VS dark, noble VS vulgar, and it is not my favorite mindset. And those "secrets", those "mantras" (fiat lux, etc). Just weird...

I also attach great value to the intents of someone's acts, more than "nobility" or "purity". And I just can't identify yours.

As Bowhunter said, we are in this together, whether we like it or not. You put great efforts in your threads, and I respect that. But I wish you were less exclusive, and more forgiving. And not working with only a "team" of chosen people.

But that choice is yours and I cannot force you. I just give my humble opinion, with all due respect to you person and your work.

And I wish you too to have a day full of joy and fun

Phil, if I may, the chosen ones, they are exactly that, they chose...Not Illuminator, he is messenger. Those who choose will be few. As in you will choose or not. Those who awaken will be protected as well as their families. This is why I have left the last two post. For those interested choosing to walk in GOD'S shoes, per say.

Thank you Bow. I wish you a very nice day

You are welcome, Phil

And when you feel comfortable here, if you could share some knowledge of some helpful skills you may have. When the time comes, Kairos time (perfect Timing)people will gather, different places globaly. Your skills will be needed. Your family will be welcome and protected.


Fiat Lux (let their be light)

Grace to you and your family

sadly, for many this may be a truth, however as things are known on all levels there are ways and means of "disinfecting" which have never been disclosed in th e"playbook"

To think that th e Heavenly Hosts did not have fluid set points and dynamic failsafe restore positions whilst allowing th e folly of man to play out would be to put God in the realm of man.

God is God and the Holy Ordinances will not "lower th ebar" for man to climb up.


Man however may discard his lofty ambitions and seek a penitent mind and walk foward in peace, and thus under Grace and as a result the "Bar" and disinfection, become superfluous.

Thank you

Concerning waterwheels and gardening, you will find VERY interesting things in the works of Viktor Schauberger

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I am not understanding your words. I do not wish to step backwards. I understand this is your thread. And Yoda has not even replied, I was talking of culture. Please explain further

I do not understand what I have done

What am I missing here

I am sorry and very confused of my place now.

Illuminator I am confused as well...please explain if you may

Plain and Simple BULL



Last Edited by Lord.Kayle on 03/11/2010 02:45 PM

High magic, pig sty magic and ritaul magic, each are mutaully exclusive and dangerous when mixed.

Any further questions?

I suggest that the WOW playars pull their heads in RIGHT NOW


and not test Grace one jot, one iota further.


Big talking will see more than a stick or two get snapped like a twig.

No Man is an Island, and who DARE carry a joust against th eHouse of God.

I am sure those who have ears will hear it.

It is over, any more ritual will merely be awritten on your foreheads and the back of your hands for a time and a time multiplied bt universal factors low level initiates will never, and I do mean never, come back from.


so I would say It is all good, depending on what irons are currently "in th efire"

"Take em out" th e old hermit was heard bristling in th ebackground, "take em out or git em t()()Ken out!"

shut up

if it wasn't for movies on tv you assholes who not be talking about this fake 2012 bullshit

if something does happen it will be man made you fucking moron

then all the losers will be like " I KNEW IT,, THE PROPHECIES WERE RIGHT" " JESUS IS HERE"
stfu and die, all of you

Yoda, I am very sorry
Illumina, very sorry, please know Yoda had nothing to do with this. Bowhunter has new real problems now.

No disrespect, but i'm afraid to lead anybody, don't know how or where to start. What I tried to start is not right.
I will wait for further instruction from Illumina