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Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States 10/17/2009 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, Zetas right again! Do they EVER get anything wrong? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 789591Pretty much all the time...especially on math problems that contain the number zero. Wouldn't the Zetas be getting pretty bored with being proved right over and over again? Poor bloody Zetas! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 789591Perhaps...if they had ever gotten anything right to begin with. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
shavas User ID: 183770 Canada 10/17/2009 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One member of the imaging team does speak for the whole imaging team. Quoting: Menow 405501It's silly excuse... Speaking of silly excuses, Steve... Remember when "Zetas" told you that you had seen PX by naked eye in a scope only capable of capturing objects down to mag 11? Also remember that "Zetas" had claimed PX would be imaged at mag 10-11? Why are you squalling about alleged objects which are nowhere NEAR that level of brightness? The fact that objects were showing up at those coordinates is IMO a significtion indication of evidence of PX. Objects WERE NOT showing up at those coords, Steve. NOT! Why don't you GET that?? It was NOISE, man!! The initial images I took in September of 2002 showed barely anything noticable but from there on started becoming larger, brighter, No, it didn't. That was just Dell's inane, incompetent "pixel analysis" crapola. The NOTHING didn't get any brighter, since it was NOTHING! seen over more images and by December were quite obviously apparent on the images even by taking a casual look. Huh? A "casual" look? What does that mean? Nancy could have picked as many bits of fluff and noise as she wanted to. They were ALL OVER THE IMAGES, Steve, and they NEVER rose above the level of NOISE, since that is what they were, except when Nancy picked out known asteroids or pre-existing stars. I described what I saw in the scope at the observatory in Vancouver. If there was nothing there then why would the vice president of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada admit to me the next week they were aware of PX and invite me to look for it with some astronomers at an observatory outside the city the next week. I have no idea what you or he may mean by "aware of PX". There has been a search for more planets since the beginning of astronomy. That has NOTHING to do with Nancy's planet. NOTHING! So, did you go back? Of course, the next week NASA came into town with a big presentation a the Vancouver planetarium, the telescope in the observatory was completely dismantled and my contact at the RASC would no longer talk to me. I think you are exaggerating. What do you mean, "...the telescope in the observatory was completely dismantled"?? And that was after he called me and invited me to the presention. When I went to speak with him after the presentation he turned away from me and walked into the womens bathroom. A few weeks later that gentleman was no longer listed in affiliation with the RASC and I never heard from him again. The telescope remained dismantled for about two years. What does ANY of that have to do with what I asked you? I asked you why what you were told you had seen(mag 11), and what was predicted(mag 10-11) bore NO RESEMBLANCE to what Nancy called PX in the later images? Menow, despite your use of exclamation marks and simulated yelling, something was showing up on those images which changed over the course of those months as is clearly evidenced on the images. Repeatedly saying something is nothing does not make it so. The objects were far above the level of noise and were showing up across the sets of images taken ie. over a course of three or four hours 10-20 images might have been taken, when the objects are consistently showing up across the images it makes me think they are not likely random noise or hot pixels. You ask " I think you are exaggerating. What do you mean, "...the telescope in the observatory was completely dismantled"?? " I mean the telescope was gone, ie. as in out of the building, no where to be seen - only some screws sticking out of the floor. Saying it was dismantled is somewhat an assumption on my part as it was a fairly large telescope and likely would have had some dissambly to facilitate removal from the observatory. Alternately, it could have remained largely intact if removed by a crane. The observatory was not opened again until late April of 2002. Menow "I have no idea what you or he may mean by "aware of PX". There has been a search for more planets since the beginning of astronomy. That has NOTHING to do with Nancy's planet. NOTHING! So, did you go back?" " No I did not go back because I was no longer able to get a hold of my contact at the RASC. Menow "What does ANY of that have to do with what I asked you? I asked you why what you were told you had seen(mag 11), and what was predicted(mag 10-11) bore NO RESEMBLANCE to what Nancy called PX in the later images? " The CCD images, especially those in December 2002 show several scattered objects trailing a larger set of objects. The Zeta's described it as being part of the PX complex composed of two light personas of PX (red and white) and numerous moon swirls. ie. [link to zetatalk.com] |
KeepingItReal User ID: 553451 Canada 10/17/2009 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would you care to name the observatory outside the city of Vancouver? I think I know which one you speak of and if it is, I can probably get confirmation or denial from a trusted source inside. Quoting: shavasSorry, never knew the name of that one. You can't name the observatory you claim you went to??? GAWD! The name of the observatory (the one of the sighting, the one which was dismantled) is the Gordon MacMillan Southam Observatory which is located very much in Vancouver. The one outside the city is the one I never went to and never claimed to have visited. So you are saying that the observatory at the Planetarium was closed for 2 years? When was this, because I don't remember that, and I am a longtime fan of the planetarium. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
shavas User ID: 183770 Canada 10/17/2009 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The name of the observatory (the one of the sighting, the one which was dismantled) is the Gordon MacMillan Southam Observatory which is located very much in Vancouver. The one outside the city is the one I never went to and never claimed to have visited. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 787502you realize we are on the internet and can vaery easily verify that the observatory is still open and functioning??? [link to www.hrmacmillanspacecentre.com] The telescope was placed back in the observatory in late April of 2004. It may of been some months later though before being open to the public. |
KeepingItReal User ID: 553451 Canada 10/17/2009 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
shavas User ID: 183770 Canada 10/17/2009 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would you care to name the observatory outside the city of Vancouver? I think I know which one you speak of and if it is, I can probably get confirmation or denial from a trusted source inside. Quoting: KeepingItRealSorry, never knew the name of that one. You can't name the observatory you claim you went to??? GAWD! The name of the observatory (the one of the sighting, the one which was dismantled) is the Gordon MacMillan Southam Observatory which is located very much in Vancouver. The one outside the city is the one I never went to and never claimed to have visited. So you are saying that the observatory at the Planetarium was closed for 2 years? When was this, because I don't remember that, and I am a longtime fan of the planetarium. From early May of 2001 until around sometime in the summer of 2002. Excuse me I lost tack of the exacts dates when I posted it was closed for two years but it was well over a year. |
shavas User ID: 183770 Canada 10/17/2009 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well my observation is that there aren't a whole lot of observatories in BC, and even fewer "outside Vancouver". Something isn't adding up with your story. I lived across the bridge from the planetarium between 96 and 06, could see it from my balcony, and was a regular visitor. I can't remember it being closed at all, much less for 2 years. Quoting: KeepingItRealThe planetarium and space centre were still open. Just the observatory was closed. That is fact my friend! |
KeepingItReal User ID: 553451 Canada 10/17/2009 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well my observation is that there aren't a whole lot of observatories in BC, and even fewer "outside Vancouver". Something isn't adding up with your story. I lived across the bridge from the planetarium between 96 and 06, could see it from my balcony, and was a regular visitor. I can't remember it being closed at all, much less for 2 years. Quoting: shavasThe planetarium and space centre were still open. Just the observatory was closed. That is fact my friend! Well it should be easy to verify. I do remember going to the observatory during that time, but hey, I might be wrong. I have a friend that has been a member since the 70s and if anyone would know, it would be him. I will send him an email and report back about it. I have just looked at the annual reports between 2001 and 2002 and there is no mention of closures. Last Edited by KeepingItReal on 10/17/2009 10:45 PM Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
shavas User ID: 183770 Canada 10/17/2009 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes of course, never mind the hundreds of CCD images taken lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 796601With nothing but noise and hot pixels being pointed out. You don't know your ass from third base when it comes to CCD imaging, my boy. Yes I find it amazing how hot pixels were able to show up in the same place on multiple frames of image taken over a period of hours. What are the odds? And as far as how you eloquently put it me not knowing my ass from third base as to CCD imaging - astronomy is admittingly not my field and I did find the some of the technical aspects challenging and time cosuming. I did however learn as much as I could in the time I was taking those images and did shell out lots of money to take them. I learned as fast as I could and am not without some degree of intelligence having a diploma in mechanical engineer and a bachelor of science degree with honours. Not much but some education... Last Edited by shavas on 10/17/2009 10:47 PM |
shavas User ID: 183770 Canada 10/17/2009 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well my observation is that there aren't a whole lot of observatories in BC, and even fewer "outside Vancouver". Something isn't adding up with your story. I lived across the bridge from the planetarium between 96 and 06, could see it from my balcony, and was a regular visitor. I can't remember it being closed at all, much less for 2 years. Quoting: KeepingItRealThe planetarium and space centre were still open. Just the observatory was closed. That is fact my friend! Well it should be easy to verify. I do remember going to the observatory during that time, but hey, I might be wrong. I have a friend that has been a member since the 70s and if anyone would know, it would be him. I will send him an email and report back about it. I have just looked at the annual reports between 2001 and 2002 and there is no mention of closures. Assuming I am not a complete liar, this page: [link to www.hrmacmillanspacecentre.com] shows the instalation of a new telescope with the final piece in place on April 24, 2002. So baring anything I have said about the observatory, from that page it can be seen the observatory would have been closd for some period of time for construction purposes. |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States 10/17/2009 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Menow, despite your use of exclamation marks and simulated yelling, something was showing up on those images which changed over the course of those months as is clearly evidenced on the images. Repeatedly saying something is nothing does not make it so. Quoting: shavasJust as repeatedly saying something was imaged does not make it so. As Dell pointed out, if "Planet X" did not end up where it should have been at the dates Nancy claimed, then it wasn't at the location you imaged. Planets don't just disappear. To this day, there is no photographic evidence to suggest that "Planet X" exists...and this should be something real easy to obtain considering its supposedly sitting in the inner solar system. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Menow User ID: 405501 United States 10/17/2009 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would you care to name the observatory outside the city of Vancouver? I think I know which one you speak of and if it is, I can probably get confirmation or denial from a trusted source inside. Quoting: shavasSorry, never knew the name of that one. You can't name the observatory you claim you went to??? GAWD! The name of the observatory (the one of the sighting, the one which was dismantled) is the Gordon MacMillan Southam Observatory which is located very much in Vancouver. The one outside the city is the one I never went to and never claimed to have visited. Oh. Sorry. Maybe I lost track of what you were saying. Now... How about you address the fact that what you were told you saw (and what was predicted, brightness wise) was not at ALL what Nancy called PX in the images? |
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Fhirinne User ID: 623339 United Kingdom 10/17/2009 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All hearsay without a shred of evidence to back you up. Quoting: shavasYes of course, never mind the hundreds of CCD images taken lol "Hundreds"?? Har! If you count the images on this page: [link to zetatalk.com] There are well over a hundred. still not proof like though is it just like this [link to zetatalk.com] A lovely gallery of lens flares You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system |
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Menow User ID: 405501 United States 10/17/2009 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Menow, despite your use of exclamation marks and simulated yelling, something was showing up on those images which changed over the course of those months as is clearly evidenced on the images. Repeatedly saying something is nothing does not make it so. Quoting: shavasRepeatedly saying something *IS* so does not make it so. What was in the images "changed" in what way? Please be specific rather than just repeating that something was there. Ehaustive analysis was done on the images by people who knew what they were doing. That does NOT include JW Dell, as he now freely admits. The objects were far above the level of noise Quoting: shavasNo they weren't, but how far in your opinion? Please be specific and show your work. and were showing up across the sets of images taken ie. over a course of three or four hours 10-20 images might have been taken, when the objects are consistently showing up across the images it makes me think they are not likely random noise or hot pixels. Quoting: shavasThey were NOT showing up across the sets of images. Hot pixels, X-ray hits and the like, were showing up on individual images out of the sets and improperly cited as real objects by the use of "summing" the imgages instead of a method which would subtract the bits that DID NOT appear in the same place throughout the set. Why are you lying about this? You ask " I think you are exaggerating. What do you mean, "...the telescope in the observatory was completely dismantled"?? " Quoting: shavasI mean the telescope was gone, ie. as in out of the building, no where to be seen - only some screws sticking out of the floor. Saying it was dismantled is somewhat an assumption on my part as it was a fairly large telescope and likely would have had some dissambly to facilitate removal from the observatory. Alternately, it could have remained largely intact if removed by a crane. The observatory was not opened again until late April of 2002. And your assumption is that they ripped out the scope, on short notice, because you had "seen PX"? Did you do ANY checking to see if maintenance was already planned? Menow Quoting: shavas"I have no idea what you or he may mean by "aware of PX". There has been a search for more planets since the beginning of astronomy. That has NOTHING to do with Nancy's planet. NOTHING! So, did you go back?" " No I did not go back because I was no longer able to get a hold of my contact at the RASC. There are LOTS of nice scopes available. Even Hap Griffin has offered his to image PX. Only Nancy will not give current coordinates. Hmm... I wonder why? Menow Quoting: shavas"What does ANY of that have to do with what I asked you? I asked you why what you were told you had seen(mag 11), and what was predicted(mag 10-11) bore NO RESEMBLANCE to what Nancy called PX in the later images? " The CCD images, especially those in December 2002 show several scattered objects trailing a larger set of objects. Bullshit. That is just Nancy's wishfull analysis. Nothing of the kind is seen in the images. Didn't you look at the work by Sarah Mac and John Oliver and Otto Zork? [link to de.geocities.com] The Zeta's described it as being part of the PX complex composed of two light personas of PX (red and white) and numerous moon swirls. Quoting: shavasYes, "they" did, but that is sheer nonsense. There is no such thing as different "personas" of imaged sky objects. Show me ONE other example, EVER, of any such thing in astronomy literature. Or, do you think PX exudes a type of light different than ANY other object ever seen??? ie. [link to zetatalk.com] Quoting: shavas |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 754345 Canada 10/17/2009 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there should be a big picture of a Zetas fail again! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 654301and Nancy you fail too [link to failblog.files.wordpress.com] that makes no sense...she's posting a link proving she was right. You're pathetic and nowhere near as funny as you think. |
Menow User ID: 405501 United States 10/17/2009 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes of course, never mind the hundreds of CCD images taken lol Quoting: shavasWith nothing but noise and hot pixels being pointed out. You don't know your ass from third base when it comes to CCD imaging, my boy. Yes I find it amazing how hot pixels were able to show up in the same place on multiple frames of image taken over a period of hours. Simple... They DIDN'T. What are the odds? And as far as how you eloquently put it me not knowing my ass from third base as to CCD imaging - astronomy is admittingly not my field and I did find the some of the technical aspects challenging and time cosuming. I did however learn as much as I could in the time I was taking those images and did shell out lots of money to take them. I learned as fast as I could and am not without some degree of intelligence having a diploma in mechanical engineer and a bachelor of science degree with honours. Not much but some education... Quoting: shavasLook at the work done on the images by REAL astronomers. PLEASE! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 754345 Canada 10/17/2009 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SHADDAPPP!!!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 658394Zetas RIGHT Again!Zetaa RIGHT Again! Yippeee! Even if you were right, to so casually celebrate the forthcoming death of 5.4 BILLION human beings, while aliens that could easily move things out of the way and save the species merely play with the emotions of what few humans have heard of them seems to be the height of cruelty, Nancy. Yippee, indeed. Your pet aliens could theoretically save ALL of humanity from the PX threat. It is TRIVIAL for them. They choose not to. They choose to hide the truth from the common man. They are as bad as anything the government has ever done, times ten. They are monsters. And you are on the Wrong Side. Death is not the end my small minded friend. |
KeepingItReal User ID: 553451 Canada 10/17/2009 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Assuming I am not a complete liar Quoting: Anonymous Coward 796472That's a pretty big assumption that we need to make, based on your track record. I'm sorry, dude, but your story originally sounded like they closed down the observatory over you, or over Nasa, but now you claim that it was closed down to install a new telescope. I do remember when they put in the new telescope, but I honestly don't remember it being closed for almost 2 years. None of the documents on the internet make any reference at all to a closure. The only Google entry that does points to ZetaTalk, which would be right back to you. I know they did close it in the 80s, and there is information on the net about that. Maybe if you had stated from the beginning that the closure was totally unrelated to you, and was to install a new telescope, you might sound more credible. For that matter, I don't see why you mentioned it at all, since it has no bearing on your story whatsoever. Also the disappearing dude just doesn't add up. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States 10/17/2009 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you were already aware of this data that NASA just released on Oct 15th? Wow, you must be the smartest guy on Earth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754345You didn't read my post on the previous page did you? I was commenting on the very first sentence of her post. Get with the times. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 754345 Canada 10/17/2009 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any time someone feels the need to constantly assert how Quoting: DrPostmanright they are it's obvious that they are insecure in what they believe in. Just saying you're right doesn't make it so. SHADDAPPP!!!!!! Zetas RIGHT Again!Zetaa RIGHT Again! Yippeee! :braingone: I see I'm not alone in this. It's almost childish, this "I'm right, I'm right!" stuff. I actually feel sorry for Nancy. Only a few trolls keep egging her on. The hundreds of followers she had up until 2003 have all faded away. 2012 is coming very soon and she has made too many claims about that year being "too far out". I've seen signs that she's trying to come up with another Great White Lie to cover up her many 2012 declarations but I really don't see how she can make up anything good enough. If a bunch of asswipes spent countless hours attempting to tell the world you're a liar, I think even someone obviously as high and mighty as yourself would find a little joy in bit of I told you so. |
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Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States 10/17/2009 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If a bunch of asswipes spent countless hours attempting to tell the world you're a liar, I think even someone obviously as high and mighty as yourself would find a little joy in bit of I told you so. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754345Maybe...but she has yet to have anything to say, "I told you so." A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States 10/17/2009 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you spend way too much time on here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754345Really? How much time would you say I spend here? I made only a handful of posts all week, mostly in the morning. It's now Saturday night...I don't sit in front of the TV like a lot of other people. Is it your assignment to monitor my time here? Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 10/17/2009 11:20 PM A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 754345 Canada 10/17/2009 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are a total ASS. This is the best you can do? Your getting paid too much !!! (no....maybe not, tell me, what does a person with an IQ of a slug makes these days?) Your an idiot. Get a new line or better yet...GET A JOB ! Quoting: Circuit BreakerWhy don't you tell us...apparently you have the IQ of a slug since you can't properly make use of the word you're. So, you're the one getting paid too much and you're the idiot. Perhaps you should follow your own advice. pointing out spelling? OK Mrs Breaker. Thanks for the lesson. |
Menow User ID: 405501 United States 10/17/2009 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Assuming I am not a complete liar, Quoting: shavasHere is one analysis of one set of images. There was NOTHING at the Zeta coordinates. [link to de.geocities.com] |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States 10/17/2009 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pointing out spelling? OK Mrs Breaker. Thanks for the lesson. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754345No problem, Ma'am. Just thought I'd help you out. Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 10/17/2009 11:23 PM A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |