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Nefilim Bible Question: How Could Regular Sized Women Birth Giants?

 
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Nefilim Bible Question: How Could Regular Sized Women Birth Giants?
Has anyone put any sort of thought into this? For example, when crossing Shetlan ponies with Thoroughbreds, the male HAS to be the smaller of the two. The womb HAS to be able to support the size. I'm not talking about the 8ft-9ft Giants; I'm talking about the 20fters. It would be like mating a Great Dane with a tea-cup Chihuahua. The only way it would work would be if it was a female Great Dane and a male Chihuahua.

So how did the "Sons of God" who were described as 20ft+ giants, breed with the "Daughters of men" to make more giants? If anything it has to be the opposite, where giant women mated with smaller men.

What the Bible Says About Giants

Gen 6:4 "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown."

2 Samuel 21
In still another battle, which took place at Gath, there was a huge man with six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot--twenty-four in all. He also was descended from Rapha. When he taunted Israel, Jonathan son of Shimeah, David's brother, killed him.

Numbers 13:33
And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

Deuteronomy 2:11
Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites called them Emims.

Deuteronomy 2:20
(That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims;

Deuteronomy 3:11
For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.

Deuteronomy 3:13
And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants.
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Re: Nefilim Bible Question: How Could Regular Sized Women Birth Giants?
Painfully?

Oh wait. Would the giants be really little when they're born, just like every other animal?
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ask Shaqs mom how she did it.
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Re: Nefilim Bible Question: How Could Regular Sized Women Birth Giants?
Dwarf parents have normal kids all the time. Scale it up.
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Once again, read the OP. I'm not talking about 8ft-9ft large humans...I'm talking about 20ft+ Giants with a 4.5-5ft woman. In nature (for anyone that knows ANYTHING about breeding animals) you CANNOT breed a considerably large male with an extremely small female of different species. The female will die. She cannot support that size.
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If I remember correctly, a women just gave birth to a 20 pound baby. A normal baby today, with pre-natal vitamins may weigh between 6-9 pounds. This would make the "giant" baby 2-3 times larger than a normal person. So theoretically, the baby could grow to be 12-18 feet tall. The bible also says that most giants were descendants of Anak, which could be one women. Sadly, this is lost knowledge, which is not taught in churches today. That is a shame because the bible may imply that giants will one day return to the earth.
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Once again, read the OP. I'm not talking about 8ft-9ft large humans...I'm talking about 20ft+ Giants with a 4.5-5ft woman. In nature (for anyone that knows ANYTHING about breeding animals) you CANNOT breed a considerably large male with an extremely small female of different species. The female will die. She cannot support that size.
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Oh yeah, giants aren't natural, and aren't natural animals. So what were you saying about "in nature" and "breeding animals"? How is it relevant? Do you know anything specific about breeding giants? You don't, or you wouldn't be asking these questions. So you ask some questions, then exclude answers you don't like, even though you don't know enough about the subject to know the answers are wrong.
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Back when earth was much smaller, gravity was less forceful and big things had an easier time of it.
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I wanted to add another bible story. In one town Jesus attempted to heal a blind man. He touched the mans eyes. Then Jesus asked "what do you see?" The man replied, "I see people; they look like trees walking around." The mans eyes had been opened to the spirit wrealm. What he was saying was "I see people as large as trees walking around." Jesus touched his eyes agin and the man could see.

From this story it seems that the spirits are very large in their natural state and perhaps when they take on human form they shrink to human scale. The story of Lot implies that the two angels sent to save him had nothing out of the ordinary about them. Lot himself didn't seem to reckognize them as angels. The book of revelations tells of an enormous angel with one foot on land and one in the sea. Just an interesting fact.
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The uterus can expand to hold a 20 pound baby, and vaginas can stretch large enough for that 20 pound baby to be born.(i.e. twice the size of a football)

Once the baby pops out, the vaginas snap back to fairly normal size for future fun and games.
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Are you serious? Did it ever dawn on you that they start out as babies? There are people in this world now that are born of regular size, as babies, then grow up to 10 feet tall. It is a genetic disease that is very rare but non the less, it happens.
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OP, to answer your question...there were women giants too you know! And on the flipside or "norm" bigger men or nephilim can and did have sex w/women. I imagine that the women "died" at a certain point during the pregnancy. ANd b4 you even start-up w/it...they had technology greater than ours where they could have induced-labor early than the due-date....maybe they only used the women up to a certain gestation-period using her as the "reproduction and incubating" "vessel" and then simply removed the fetus at some-point.

You have to remembet these were more intelligent beings than us.
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Steve Quayle talks about this. According to him the giant babies would kill the mother upon being born.
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Once again, read the OP. I'm not talking about 8ft-9ft large humans...I'm talking about 20ft+ Giants with a 4.5-5ft woman. In nature (for anyone that knows ANYTHING about breeding animals) you CANNOT breed a considerably large male with an extremely small female of different species. The female will die. She cannot support that size.




Oh yeah, giants aren't natural, and aren't natural animals. So what were you saying about "in nature" and "breeding animals"? How is it relevant? Do you know anything specific about breeding giants? You don't, or you wouldn't be asking these questions. So you ask some questions, then exclude answers you don't like, even though you don't know enough about the subject to know the answers are wrong.
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Are you saying that giants aren't natural? I think they are natural somewhere! I'm saying that Giants are a totally different species. Two different species mating. Not two different sized humans mating.

Here's another comparison: a male silverback gorilla and a female spider monkey.

Don't just act like a smart ass, enlighten me if you know so much. That's why I'm here!
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Re: Nefilim Bible Question: How Could Regular Sized Women Birth Giants?
Steve Quayle talks about this. According to him the giant babies would kill the mother upon being born.
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From their size, of course.

I know Quayle is a bit out there but he is interesting to listen to. Search youtube if you are interested, he does lots of research on Nephilim.
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I read some where that the mother usually died.
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Re: Nefilim Bible Question: How Could Regular Sized Women Birth Giants?
Has anyone put any sort of thought into this?
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Yes, once you start thinking about the bible you see the BS.
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Re: Nefilim Bible Question: How Could Regular Sized Women Birth Giants?
Back when earth was much smaller, gravity was less forceful and big things had an easier time of it.
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What the fuck?

It doesnt grow, the mass has to come from somewhere, what is here now is what was there millions of years ago.

Conservation of mass/energy.
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Back when earth was much smaller, gravity was less forceful and big things had an easier time of it.


What the fuck?

It doesnt grow, the mass has to come from somewhere, what is here now is what was there millions of years ago.

Conservation of mass/energy.
 Quoting: Atheist

sorry, wrong....

start here..



We get Trillions of tons of 'space debri' new to Earth every year x 100 million yars...

..Not to include millions of meteors (carrying water ect.)

The Earth was 80% smaller then currently with shallow seas.

This is how the Dinos were able to become so large.
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Steve Quayle talks about this. According to him the giant babies would kill the mother upon being born.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 793980




I don't even see how the mother could support it after about the 5th or 6th month...assuming it is a 9 month process. Perhaps totally different gestation period? Like maybe only 3 or 4 months? This would make sense, but is there any archealogical evidence (that has been made public) that describes the actual birth cycle of the Nephilim mating with the daughters of men?

What other texts/scrolls/documents refer to the Nephilim (or any other name) Giants in greater detail? They can't ALL be hidden!
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I wanted to add another bible story. In one town Jesus attempted to heal a blind man. He touched the mans eyes. Then Jesus asked "what do you see?" The man replied, "I see people; they look like trees walking around." The mans eyes had been opened to the spirit wrealm. What he was saying was "I see people as large as trees walking around." Jesus touched his eyes agin and the man could see.

From this story it seems that the spirits are very large in their natural state and perhaps when they take on human form they shrink to human scale. The story of Lot implies that the two angels sent to save him had nothing out of the ordinary about them. Lot himself didn't seem to reckognize them as angels. The book of revelations tells of an enormous angel with one foot on land and one in the sea. Just an interesting fact.
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That's very interesting, and I will research that aspect. But how does it explain all of the skeletol remains of 20ft+ men and women scattered across the entire Earth?

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It's kinda like how a liger is humoungous compared to a lion and a tiger.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Whoever the Nefilim were, they would have to be from the same Genus as humanity; but a different species.

Imprinted genetics may be a factor.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

That's my take at least.

The Nefilim are probably our species cousins, or something.
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Has anyone put any sort of thought into this?




Yes, once you start thinking about the bible you see the BS.
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Oh, no doubt. It is a tool for enslavement. However, it should not be ignored. There are many many sujects that need true unbiased research.
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Re: Nefilim Bible Question: How Could Regular Sized Women Birth Giants?
A historic mistranslation. Originally the Giants were nor large or huge people but just a name for a special tribe, the gigantes. For some unclear reason the association with large size was made somewhere in history.
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Are you serious? Did it ever dawn on you that they start out as babies? There are people in this world now that are born of regular size, as babies, then grow up to 10 feet tall. It is a genetic disease that is very rare but non the less, it happens.
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Are you serious? Did it ever dawn on you that they start out as babies? There are people in this world now that are born of regular size, as babies, then grow up to 10 feet tall. It is a genetic disease that is very rare but non the less, it happens.
 Quoting: KimmieAnnaJones

acromeglia or acromegaly.
Not the same as giants. 20 foot tall wont work. Hydrostatic pressure. A giraffe has special vascularization and that is for part time height. They have to lower their head.
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A historic mistranslation. Originally the Giants were nor large or huge people but just a name for a special tribe, the gigantes. For some unclear reason the association with large size was made somewhere in history.
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Not true. Read about the excavations on the Ohio River Mounds. Many newspapers of the region have articles in their morgue. National Geo published about it prior to 1880. Then sanitized and denial.
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They could have mutated later after birth....you know like in some people some glands overproduce something and they keep on growing
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They could have mutated later after birth....you know like in some people some glands overproduce something and they keep on growing
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This is true. I know a president that was born looking normal .
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They could have mutated later after birth....you know like in some people some glands overproduce something and they keep on growing
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If you'll notice in the Giant video above, the ancient skeletons uncovered are HUGE between 20-36ft; and then the more modern photos toward the end of the video the "giants" are around 8ft. My speculation is that the more recent account of giantism is the genetic remnants of the interbreeding.

But how did it begin?!
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Hydrostatic pressure says the theoretical maximum height is 12 feet, I feel probably less, 10 feet. I suppose one could argue elephants and giraffes demonstrate the maximum height.
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