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Society vs. the individual
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pud
User ID: 743297
10/18/2009 10:59 AM
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Should we (or not) focus on what is beneficial for society as a whole, instead of that of the individual?
IMO to evolve as a species we should surely be focusing on the 'greater good'?
***Obviously who decides what is 'good' would be 'tricky'.
Thoughts?
(For the record, I am NOT a socialist, I'm definitely a capitalist (business owner, investor, etc.), and am proud of the wealth I've created for myself, and others.).
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SubarcticBeef 
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User ID: 560939
10/18/2009 11:05 AM
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Why do you mention on every thread you post that you're wealthy? And yet you can't even find a woman. Either you have bome sort of inferiority complex, or you're just a wimp.
Last Edited by SubarcticBeef on 10/18/2009 at 11:11 AM
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 796775
10/18/2009 11:06 AM | | Re: Society vs. the individual | Quote |
I think the best results would come from balance of those two... |
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refugee13
"oh well, whatever, nevermind..."
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10/18/2009 11:06 AM
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Why do mention on every thread you post that you're wealthy? And yet you can't even find a woman. Either you have bome sort of inferiority complex, or you're just a wimp. Quoting: SubarcticBeef
Thank you Beef...I thought I was the only one who thought that...
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"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"
"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."
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pud
User ID: 743297
10/18/2009 11:16 AM | | Re: Society vs. the individual | Quote |
Why do you mention on every thread you post that you're wealthy? And yet you can't even find a woman. Either you have bome sort of inferiority complex, or you're just a wimp. Quoting: SubarcticBeef
Is it not pertinent for my point, since I'm giving my opinion? Otherwise, I'd have people saying I'm some leech for thinking of society...
sometimes ya just can't win...
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pud
User ID: 743297
10/18/2009 11:18 AM | | Re: Society vs. the individual | Quote |
Why do you mention on every thread you post that you're wealthy? And yet you can't even find a woman. Either you have bome sort of inferiority complex, or you're just a wimp. Quoting: SubarcticBeef
And what's being rich have to do with finding a good, decent woman to start a family with?
Not sure I understand your point, SubarcticBeef.
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Smoulderin'Gal
User ID: 722642
10/18/2009 11:26 AM | | Re: Society vs. the individual | Quote |
I wish everyone would stop judging and criticizing you pud. If it's any consolation, I love you...unconditionally..:) x |
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SubarcticBeef
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User ID: 560939
10/18/2009 11:27 AM
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Why do you mention on every thread you post that you're wealthy? And yet you can't even find a woman. Either you have bome sort of inferiority complex, or you're just a wimp.
And what's being rich have to do with finding a good, decent woman to start a family with?
Not sure I understand your point, SubarcticBeef.
Instead of just being a man. you're flashing your money around trying to attract women. Sure, you'll get a few bites, but it'll be gold diggers and bimbos. You seem like a nice guy, but you're going about things the wrong way.
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SubarcticBeef
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User ID: 560939
10/18/2009 11:28 AM
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I wish everyone would stop judging and criticizing you pud. If it's any consolation, I love you...unconditionally..:) x Quoting: Smoulderin'Gal
Thanks for proving my point.
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pud
User ID: 743297
10/18/2009 11:30 AM | | Re: Society vs. the individual | Quote |
I wish everyone would stop judging and criticizing you pud. If it's any consolation, I love you...unconditionally..:) x Quoting: Smoulderin'Gal
Thanks SmoulderinGal! 
Although, most people here have been quite nice to me
I like SubarcticBeef, he has strong opinions, I can respect that. I'm sure if we had a beer, we'd both have a few laughs.
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Smoulderin'Gal
User ID: 722642
10/18/2009 11:33 AM | | Re: Society vs. the individual | Quote |
Thanks for proving my point.
Err, I said unconditionally I could care less for his money! |
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SubarcticBeef
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User ID: 560939
10/18/2009 11:34 AM
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Thanks for proving my point.
Err, I said unconditionally I could care less for his money! Quoting: Smoulderin'Gal
Sorry. I misunderstood.
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SubarcticBeef
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10/18/2009 11:36 AM
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I wish everyone would stop judging and criticizing you pud. If it's any consolation, I love you...unconditionally..:) x
Thanks SmoulderinGal!
Although, most people here have been quite nice to me
I like SubarcticBeef, he has strong opinions, I can respect that. I'm sure if we had a beer, we'd both have a few laughs.
Thanks for that, pud. Good luck to you.
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pud
User ID: 743297
10/18/2009 11:38 AM | | Re: Society vs. the individual | Quote |
Thanks for proving my point.
Err, I said unconditionally I could care less for his money! Quoting: Smoulderin'Gal
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 792028
10/18/2009 11:40 AM | | Re: Society vs. the individual | Quote |
your better good should always come before anything else. |
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Jomama
User ID: 734381
10/18/2009 11:41 AM | | Re: Society vs. the individual | Quote |
Once you define that amorphous and ever changing glob
called 'society' you can go from there.
Without such a definition, the 'greater good' is meaningless.
to herd or not to herd
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Jonathan
User ID: 796934
10/18/2009 11:44 AM | | Re: Society vs. the individual | Quote |
Should we (or not) focus on what is beneficial for society as a whole, instead of that of the individual?
IMO to evolve as a species we should surely be focusing on the 'greater good'?
***Obviously who decides what is 'good' would be 'tricky'.
Thoughts?
(For the record, I am NOT a socialist, I'm definitely a capitalist (business owner, investor, etc.), and am proud of the wealth I've created for myself, and others.). Quoting: pud
"IMO to evolve as a species we should surely be focusing on the 'greater good'?"
That is socialism, my friend.
Last Edited by Jonathan on 10/18/2009 at 11:44 AM |
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pud
User ID: 743297
10/18/2009 11:44 AM | | Re: Society vs. the individual | Quote |
Once you define that amorphous and ever changing glob
called 'society' you can go from there.
Without such a definition, the 'greater good' is meaningless. Quoting: Jomama
Good point.
I think of society as, us. The tax payers, citizens as a whole. Kind of like the bees in a hive!
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pud
User ID: 743297
10/18/2009 11:49 AM | | Re: Society vs. the individual | Quote |
Should we (or not) focus on what is beneficial for society as a whole, instead of that of the individual?
IMO to evolve as a species we should surely be focusing on the 'greater good'?
***Obviously who decides what is 'good' would be 'tricky'.
Thoughts?
(For the record, I am NOT a socialist, I'm definitely a capitalist (business owner, investor, etc.), and am proud of the wealth I've created for myself, and others.).
"IMO to evolve as a species we should surely be focusing on the 'greater good'?"
That is socialism, my friend. Quoting: Jonathan
So is it socialism to want all of your fellow men to improve? (again, deciding what 'improve' means is tricky)
Socialism is "forced" by the government. I'm against that. I focus on helping people without anyone making me. Would people donate more if the government didn't force us to? I think so!
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Jonathan
User ID: 796934
10/18/2009 11:56 AM | | Re: Society vs. the individual | Quote |
Should we (or not) focus on what is beneficial for society as a whole, instead of that of the individual?
IMO to evolve as a species we should surely be focusing on the 'greater good'?
***Obviously who decides what is 'good' would be 'tricky'.
Thoughts?
(For the record, I am NOT a socialist, I'm definitely a capitalist (business owner, investor, etc.), and am proud of the wealth I've created for myself, and others.).
"IMO to evolve as a species we should surely be focusing on the 'greater good'?"
That is socialism, my friend.
So is it socialism to want all of your fellow men to improve? (again, deciding what 'improve' means is tricky)
Socialism is "forced" by the government. I'm against that. I focus on helping people without anyone making me. Would people donate more if the government didn't force us to? I think so! Quoting: pud
IMO, socialism is not a 'government' per se, it is a specific and defined world view. The word socialism describes a mindset more than it does an entity. But, that philosophy can be implemented by or through the government or an individual according to their world view.
That's how I see it. 
Last Edited by Jonathan on 10/18/2009 at 11:57 AM |
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Smoulderin'Gal
User ID: 722642
10/18/2009 11:56 AM | | Re: Society vs. the individual | Quote |
Thanks for that, pud. Good luck to you
Glad that I had a hand in making the two of you friends. Now you should both take me out to celebrate,lol... (j/k) |
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SubarcticBeef
Two Legged Wrecking Machine
User ID: 560939
10/18/2009 11:56 AM
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Should we (or not) focus on what is beneficial for society as a whole, instead of that of the individual?
IMO to evolve as a species we should surely be focusing on the 'greater good'?
***Obviously who decides what is 'good' would be 'tricky'.
Thoughts?
(For the record, I am NOT a socialist, I'm definitely a capitalist (business owner, investor, etc.), and am proud of the wealth I've created for myself, and others.).
"IMO to evolve as a species we should surely be focusing on the 'greater good'?"
That is socialism, my friend.
So is it socialism to want all of your fellow men to improve? (again, deciding what 'improve' means is tricky)
Socialism is "forced" by the government. I'm against that. I focus on helping people without anyone making me. Would people donate more if the government didn't force us to? I think so! Quoting: pud
I, as an individual, need to take care of myself first. The better off I can make myself, the more likely I'll be in a position to help others. Forced behavior is perverted behavior. The individual should be left with the choice of how to help others.
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SubarcticBeef
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User ID: 560939
10/18/2009 11:58 AM
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Thanks for that, pud. Good luck to you
Glad that I had a hand in making the two of you friends. Now you should both take me out to celebrate,lol... (j/k) Quoting: Smoulderin'Gal
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Jeremy
User ID: 717112
10/18/2009 11:58 AM | | Re: Society vs. the individual | Quote |
I wish everyone would stop judging and criticizing you pud. If it's any consolation, I love you...unconditionally..:) x
Thanks for proving my point. Quoting: SubarcticBeef
lmao seriously |
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Jonathan
User ID: 796934
10/18/2009 12:09 PM | | Re: Society vs. the individual | Quote |
Socialism's flaw, IMO, is that it puts far too much faith in the supposed and mistakenly assumed 'good nature' of humans. Everything I have ever learned and experienced in this life tells me that Socialism is a pipe dream at best. |
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pud
User ID: 743297
10/18/2009 12:12 PM | | Re: Society vs. the individual | Quote |
Socialism's flaw, IMO, is that it puts far too much faith in the supposed and mistakenly assumed 'good nature' of humans. Everything I have ever learned and experienced in this life tells me that Socialism is a pipe dream at best. Quoting: Jonathan
When the government forces people, you're right!
People are generally giving, and decent. If we weren't forced by the government, I KNOW people would donate much more money and time to less fortunate.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 789658
10/18/2009 12:25 PM | | Re: Society vs. the individual | Quote |
We are a society of individuals.
Freedom for the individual means freedom for society as a whole.
While we don't agree with every individual, we must believe their freedom is as important as ours, and defend it as such. |
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jotta
User ID: 797049
10/18/2009 12:57 PM | | Re: Society vs. the individual | Quote |
We are a society of individuals.
Freedom for the individual means freedom for society as a whole.
While we don't agree with every individual, we must believe their freedom is as important as ours, and defend it as such. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 789658
well said i was struggling to find the words
mag thatcher tried in the 80's to say there was no such thing as Society only individuals
was wrong then and wrong now |
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pud
User ID: 743297
10/18/2009 1:16 PM | | Re: Society vs. the individual | Quote |
We are a society of individuals.
Freedom for the individual means freedom for society as a whole.
While we don't agree with every individual, we must believe their freedom is as important as ours, and defend it as such. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 789658
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