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"Vaccination" does NOT confer IMMUNITY

 
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"Vaccination" does NOT confer IMMUNITY

It is very important to understand the difference between your bodies natural process of acquired immunity and the artificial process of "vaccination".

Immunization

When your body first comes into contact with a toxin or something harmful your body does not want inside it a very complex process begins. The first body cells that contact the toxin often produce a secretion which attempts to wash the toxin away. These cells are located in your nasal and oral cavities in your intestinal tract and elsewhere ALL throughout your body. Thus begins the process of immunization. The first cells to contact will communicate with the rest of your body such that your ENTIRE BODY is involved from the onset in the process of immunization. A very small part of the immunization process is producing antibodies to the toxin.

Vaccination

Vaccination attempts to produce in a crude and dangerous manner antibodies and antibodies only. 99% of the immunization process is left undone. IMO producing the antibodies without the immunization process has been proven to perform a disastrous transformation on your immune system.

A Healthy Immune System

A healthy immune system consists of an active part which contains the antibody function as well as many other functions and a passive part which massive and powerful functions and is intended to fight for your life in deadly situations. The passive part should only be called upon when the active part cannot handle the threat.

IOW most of the time your active part can handle the minor threats and your passive part sleeps way and does not disturb your body functions as does a major lifesaving effort by your passive part.

Vaccination is proven to increase the expression of the passive part and suppress the active part. This is exactly what you do NOT want and leads to all kinds of problems including the raft of auto immune diseases we have seen crop up in the last thirty years that the Rockefeller commanded CDC has foisted dozens and dozens of unnecessary "vaccinations" on us.

$$$ [link to healthyprotocols.com]
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It's a scam that goes back 150 years, and people are still so stupid they fall for it.

WHY YOU SHOULD AVOID TAKING VACCINES


By Dr. James Howenstine, MD.
December 7, 2003

Dr. James R. Shannon, former director of the National institute of health declared, “the only safe vaccine is one that is never used.”
Cowpox vaccine was believed able to immunize people against smallpox. At the time this vaccine was introduced, there was already a decline in the number of cases of smallpox. Japan introduced compulsory vaccination in 1872. In 1892 there were 165,774 cases of smallpox with 29,979 deaths despite the vaccination program. A stringent compulsory smallpox vaccine program, which prosecuted those refusing the vaccine, was instituted in England in 1867. Within 4 years 97.5 % of persons between 2 and 50 had been vaccinated. The following year England experienced the worst smallpox epidemic[1] in its history with 44,840 deaths. Between 1871 and 1880 the incidence of smallpox escalated from 28 to 46 per 100,000. The smallpox vaccine does not work.

Much of the success attributed to vaccination programs may actually have been due to improvement in public health related to water quality and sanitation, less crowded living conditions, better nutrition, and higher standards of living. Typically the incidence of a disease was clearly declining before the vaccine for that disease was introduced. In England the incidence of polio had decreased by 82 % before the polio vaccine was introduced in 1956.

In the early 1900s an astute Indiana physician, Dr. W.B. Clarke, stated “Cancer was practically unknown until compulsory vaccination with cowpox vaccine began to be introduced. I have had to deal with two hundred cases of cancer, and I never saw a case of cancer in an unvaccinated[2] person.”

There is a widely held belief that vaccines should not be criticized because the public might refuse to take them. This is valid only if the benefits exceed the known risks of the vaccines.

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Explain how I cared for children with diptheria and never caught it myself...nor have I ever had the disease previously, I was vaccinated against it. They vomited, coughed and sneezed all over me. Here I am, no diptheria.
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Explain how I cared for children with diptheria and never caught it myself...nor have I ever had the disease previously, I was vaccinated against it. They vomited, coughed and sneezed all over me. Here I am, no diptheria.
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Did the children die?
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polio vacines . stopped it..
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well there is a bit of a curfufful regarding th1 and th2 mediated immunity.. antibodies does not necessarily = immunity. cell mediated immunity is important too..
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polio vacines . stopped it..
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polio vacines . stopped it..
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No, actually, that's one of the biggest hoaxes. Read the WHOLE article I posted above. s226
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Explain how I cared for children with diptheria and never caught it myself...nor have I ever had the disease previously, I was vaccinated against it. They vomited, coughed and sneezed all over me. Here I am, no diptheria.
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You are a well nourished American. The chances of you getting a bug like Diptheria are slim indeed. These are diseases of the third world for a reason stupid. NUTRIENT DEFICIENCIES are the number one cause of disease.
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Explain how I cared for children with diptheria and never caught it myself...nor have I ever had the disease previously, I was vaccinated against it. They vomited, coughed and sneezed all over me. Here I am, no diptheria.


Did the children die?
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No they were treated with antibiotics and antitoxin, and they recovered. Unlike the many in their village that perished before modern medicine came to them.
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Explain how I cared for children with diptheria and never caught it myself...nor have I ever had the disease previously, I was vaccinated against it. They vomited, coughed and sneezed all over me. Here I am, no diptheria.


Did the children die?



No they were treated with antibiotics and antitoxin, and they recovered. Unlike the many in their village that perished before modern medicine came to them.
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Bullshit. Their bodies were still weak and nutrient deficient. None of them are healthy. You killed the bug in their body, but left them with weak immunity. Typical western medicine. whatever
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Explain how I cared for children with diptheria and never caught it myself...nor have I ever had the disease previously, I was vaccinated against it. They vomited, coughed and sneezed all over me. Here I am, no diptheria.

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Vaccination does work.

I have been vaccinated against elephant stomp disease. I have never even seen an elephant coming in my direction. My neighbor who WAS NOT vaccinated had a whole HERD of elephants stomp this entire house to small pieces.

Luckily he was not home at the time but you can be sure those elephants, WILL BE BACK!!!
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Explain how I cared for children with diptheria and never caught it myself...nor have I ever had the disease previously, I was vaccinated against it. They vomited, coughed and sneezed all over me. Here I am, no diptheria.


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Diphtheria is a bacterial infection. If your body was in the same condition as those with the disease you may well have contracted it despite your "vaccination".

You do realize since 1960 every single case of polio in the US was CAUSED by the "polio vaccination" do you not?
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How about expanding our consciousness even further about this subject? Have you ever questioned the very principle that vaccines can "prevent" diseases? Look folks, I could not care less if there are 48755 experts and books about viruses and the effectiveness of vaccines; it is still all ILLUSION on a deeper cognitive level. The human mind can be programmed with all sorts of BULLSHIT that are not even there. Think about it.

On a deeper cognitive level, the "flu" does not exist. Vaccines, of course, are based entirely on the mythology of the germ. (In fact, "diseases" do not exist, or at least they don't have a life of their own, nor they are something that you "get". The fact is that people BECOME sick spontaneously. It has its roots on their level of consciousness.) It's the fear propagated by the media that carries the actual "virus", if people want to name it this way. There are "fear waves" triggering people to make themselves sick. They are already sick on a constitutional level. Their immune systems is trashed. All that it takes to manifest a "disease" is a trigger located in their subconscious mind. See, it's a matter of mind over matter. When someone cannot control their own mind, someone else will. The media literally casts "spells" through public television, and people act accordingly.



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the very principle of how vaccines are supposed to "work" is complete bullshit, illusion. i don't even understand why people keep discu

Thread: the very principle of how vaccines are supposed to "work" is complete bullshit, illusion. i don't even understand why people keep discu
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You are a well nourished American. The chances of you getting a bug like Diptheria are slim indeed. These are diseases of the third world for a reason stupid. NUTRIENT DEFICIENCIES are the number one cause of disease.
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because you are being too simple in your approach . you see the cause and effect relationship and you overlook everything else. for each cause there are several multiple effects and for each effect there are several possible causes. medicine tries to isolate a single cause and effect and then they brainwash you into accepting this simplistic, primitive view of reality.

in fact, the scientific deterministic paradigm is PRIMITIVE. in the end there is NO such thing as CAUSE and EFFECT in the universe. everything IS INTERCONNECTED and everything HAPPENS AT ONCE. trying to isolate cause and effect is the same as focusing at 1% of the picture and ignoring the rest (99%). the actual cause of your DISEASE or HEALTH is CONSTITUTIONAL; it is your own LEVEL OF CONSCIOUSNESS. YOU ARE THE CAUSE.
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hey AC 526155, I quote you wrong. It was the other guy. Sorry.
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hey AC 526155, I quote you wrong. It was the other guy. Sorry.
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Thanks, no problem...

And GREAT STUFF OP. Very well said about the elephants! lmao

The woman who believes in the diptheria vaccines is likely a nurse. She is typical in her response, it's always the same with those people.

It's a fear based brainwashing that is almost impossible to break. So I say let her get vaccinated and figure it out for herself. s226
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hey AC 526155, I quote you wrong. It was the other guy. Sorry.



Thanks, no problem...

And GREAT STUFF OP. Very well said about the elephants! lmao

The woman who believes in the diptheria vaccines is likely a nurse. She is typical in her response, it's always the same with those people.

It's a fear based brainwashing that is almost impossible to break. So I say let her get vaccinated and figure it out for herself. s226
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As I always say to paranoid fools like you, who think every thing is a "conspiracy"...go to Korea, Vietnam or China and drink all the yummy tap water you want after forgoing your typhoid shot. Go on. Have fun.

That said, I don't agree with all vaccines either. I think gardasil, H1N1, meningococcal vaccine, smallpox dryvax and a few others are dangerous to extreme overkill, and I would never take them or let anyone shoot my kids up with them. Your elephant satire was humorous, but illogical. Try that one if you get exposed to rabies. No matter how healthy your body was, you MUST recieve the injections or you almost certainly will die. Modern medicine is not perfect, but I rather it to the days of bloodletting and witchdoctors.
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As I always say to paranoid fools like you, who think every thing is a "conspiracy"...go to Korea, Vietnam or China and drink all the yummy tap water you want after forgoing your typhoid shot. Go on. Have fun.

That said, I don't agree with all vaccines either. I think gardasil, H1N1, meningococcal vaccine, smallpox dryvax and a few others are dangerous to extreme overkill, and I would never take them or let anyone shoot my kids up with them. Your elephant satire was humorous, but illogical. Try that one if you get exposed to rabies. No matter how healthy your body was, you MUST recieve the injections or you almost certainly will die. Modern medicine is not perfect, but I rather it to the days of bloodletting and witchdoctors.
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Dude, your typhoid shot is just typhoid given to you before you get the actual typhoid from water. So you are actually making yourself sick SOONER in order to prevent sickness AFTER. What kind of stupid logic is this? In addition, vaccines DON'T WORK. It is the same as hiring someone to rape you today because there is a 80% chance that you will be raped tomorrow -> you want to develop some "immunity" to the upcoming trauma.

Contrary to most people here, I believe the actual core of the matter is not that vaccines will "kill" us or make us sick (though vaccines can make someone sick if the person is already weak). I don't believe in this. For me vaccines are tools used for population control. The vaccine itself does not work because illusions cannot work. What works (for their advantage) is the human mind when controlled by fear.

Vaccines just give you the illusion (peace of mind) that you are safe. You are only safe when you are safe, not when you believe that you are safe.

It is much better to increase your overall immunity and health (there are no limits, though eventually you have to cross into superhuman levels) or to simply avoid drinking the water at all.

This is how your logic is based on fear. Instead of choosing the harder (but better) way that is to increase your energy levels and overall immunity, and to make an effort to avoid the water in Vietnam etc, instead you choose the easy way out that is to take a shot that will give you the illusion that you are safe. If you read the articles I posted, you will see past the illusion.

Prevention against invisible stuff (either in the future or optically invisible) is always fear-based. This is how people are controlled. They afraid of the future, and they are afraid of invisible, disembodied abstract concepts.
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20 Oct 2009

"Vaccination" does NOT confer IMMUNITY

It is very important to understand the difference between your bodies natural process of acquired immunity and the artificial process of "vaccination".

Immunization

When your body first comes into contact with a toxin or something harmful your body does not want inside it a very complex process begins. The first body cells that contact the toxin often produce a secretion which attempts to wash the toxin away. These cells are located in your nasal and oral cavities in your intestinal tract and elsewhere ALL throughout your body. Thus begins the process of immunization. The first cells to contact will communicate with the rest of your body such that your ENTIRE BODY is involved from the onset in the process of immunization. A very small part of the immunization process is producing antibodies to the toxin.

Vaccination

Vaccination attempts to produce in a crude and dangerous manner antibodies and antibodies only. 99% of the immunization process is left undone. IMO producing the antibodies without the immunization process has been proven to perform a disastrous transformation on your immune system.

A Healthy Immune System

A healthy immune system consists of an active part which contains the antibody function as well as many other functions and a passive part which massive and powerful functions and is intended to fight for your life in deadly situations. The passive part should only be called upon when the active part cannot handle the threat.

IOW most of the time your active part can handle the minor threats and your passive part sleeps way and does not disturb your body functions as does a major lifesaving effort by your passive part.

Vaccination is proven to increase the expression of the passive part and suppress the active part. This is exactly what you do NOT want and leads to all kinds of problems including the raft of auto immune diseases we have seen crop up in the last thirty years that the Rockefeller commanded CDC has foisted dozens and dozens of unnecessary "vaccinations" on us.

$$$ [link to healthyprotocols.com]
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This is stupid.

The histamine reaction takes place regardless of what triggered it. All a vaccine does is add some of the markers of a virus to the database of "we already know this one is bad." All it does is speed the recognition of an invader. The rest of the process unfolds normally.
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vaccinations do not work well with some people and ends up not giving help when the person comes down with the diease. tis' why they are tlaking about having kids get double shots and same with people with comprized bodies or underlying conditions. now when they'v done this before, strange things have occurred.

i can't answer for you but i would encourage you to read all you can on it and make a very cerious dedision that you and your hubby will put up with.

keep the sick away from others. when sick, do not to the store and shop as it's not fair to others who do not have it. you know it's coming so really get out there before you're sick and stack your shelves with meds you'll need to help through your family illness. stay home. choose to be responsible by keeping your family at homw so you are not spreading disease.

when you are feeling lousy, do not to to work. they will survive without you there and you will feel better when you arre ready to be back. take care of your bodies by eating the right foods, getting plenty rest, drink mny non-alcoholic drinks. be good to you.
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polio vacines . stopped it..
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The "polio vaccine" is perhaps the deadliest farce pulled on the American public by HHS et al, who we should remember are owned by the Rockefeller clan.

I wonder why they want to pump all the Diphtheria and Pertussis toxins into our kids, as you say this is TOTALLY unnecessary? Do you have any idea Nukuspot?

Oh that seems to be the EXACT way they got the "Polio Epidemic" going last time.

Polio cases skyrocketed after diphtheria and pertussis vaccines were introduced

img%20polio.jpg google this and you will get the image in mothering.com a great website owned by the Rockefellers. Mother runs a smooth operation with shills often outnumbering real posters. GLP is WAY better. They only kick me off once in awhile

But it sure seems like they are pushing hard with our new "Pertussis Outbreak" to get EVEN MORE of the extremely toxic pertussis poison into us. My best guess is that our immune systems are not weak enough to get the required "production" read deaths, out of our next pandemic.

So this time are they shooting for another Polio Epidemic?

No I doubt it, this time we will see a plague 1000s of times worse H5N1 that is intended to kill many hundreds of millions.
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did you all know that the virus is just a theory?

no one has ever isolated a virus, or imaged one. the biological community cant even agree on what a virus is. and whenever you see an image claiming to be one of a virus, question it, because it probably isnt a virus.

now if the entire virus concept is still a theory

Why would anyone take a vaccine?
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the fact remains vaccines take away your natural ability to fight other problems creating a cess pool with no true diognostics.


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True in a sense. But you have to realize the term vaccine is very generic. Have to realize they have immunogenic & pathogenic vaccines.

With immunogenic vaccines you have to keep up booster shots to keep the response of T-cells active.

With pathogenic Vaccines the there can be many strains of whatever they are trying to make you immune to. There is no guarantee that you won’t catch a rare strain because they are vaccinating against the most common strain type.

I will also remind everyone that just because you catch chicken pox as a little child does not mean you can’t catch it a second time, epically if you had a very mild case. This is the same basic concept of why no vaccine is 100%




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the fact remains anything given to a newborn,are mother at the time of concept that caused harm,causes harm on all,in a proper study from state to state in the us we find a massive coverup,


Rank the states in education,then do a global study,then you not need a rocket scientist to understand why louisiana fall's last in education,along with Arizona.


Jump to the swiss,then compair,global study's are a must,as mountain is global,therfore by the true elect to the mount we find a global problem.



The true elect are like a bird,and of this location be a person,and of this location if bird and man had these problems then the intire globe would have it,are until it was corrected.



great study's can only be peformed by the mount,as all is brought to the mount.


Yet be advised many will try to correct,yet be aware to correct the true elect be like irony,as per noted of the tetnause given to the true elect after he was healed,this caused major problems as the body of light shuts down to these chemicals.


When you get light of god the serpent in your body is released then you are truly healed in the true light of god just as carved in stone."LIGHT OF GOD DENDERA"


if you receive a vac after that,you will not make it,for it is no different than given this to a infint.


these are the words of the light of god dec 21,2006 morning soltice.


be thankfull that i stand before you,and through my death you will know the truth.

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if there be one bird at the mount with a problem,then all birds of the earth will have that problem untill it is corrected,


and so it is the son of man,and if one thing be wrong with the son of man,be all the sons of man.
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No, but it is a way to infect you with disease-causing foreign agents.
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polio vacines . stopped it..
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No, actually, that's one of the biggest hoaxes. Read the WHOLE article I posted above. s226
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My children are on a delayed selective vaccine schedule.

From my expierence.

I have 4 particular relatives. 3 never received a vax one was adopted from a 3rd world country and had to receive certain vax's

He was the sickest and had the most behavioral issues. The other three have rarely been sick (not so much as a common cold).
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if there be one bird at the mount with a problem,then all birds of the earth will have that problem untill it is corrected,


and so it is the son of man,and if one thing be wrong with the son of man,be all the sons of man.
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thats why you take care of the true elected.when you get the true light of god the bar rises from the mount=djed pillars=light of god dendera,


when you take care of that person you take care of all.


these are the words of the light of god that i received morning soltice with witness.

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