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How Were Cell Calls Made From Planes on 9/11?

 
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I was flying yesterday and I started thinking about 9/11 and how people claimed that they received calls from loved ones on hijacked planes. How is that possible? Unless you have a satallite phone how would your cell work while flying? Even if you cell phone could connect to a tower on the ground (which Im doubtful) wouldnt you lose your signal because you are traveling so fast?
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FIRST!!!!HOLLA!!!
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They WERE NOT.
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FIRST!!!!HOLLA!!!
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We'll never know.

But, that was a day when the laws of physics, hitherto inviolate, bended and morphed in a most miraculous way.
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We'll never know.

But, that was a day when the laws of physics, hitherto inviolate, bended and morphed in a most miraculous way.
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Well this is true according to the lame stream media at least....
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I think they have proven that a cell phone at a certain level cannot be used.
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They have airplane phones available for passengers.
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They have airplane phones available for passengers.
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read thread title shill
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They have airplane phones available for passengers.
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They use to have satellite phones that were stuck in the back of seats but not anymore (I was just on a plane yesterday and I fly several times a year) and the media specifically said that passengers who were supposed to have called loved ones from the hijacked planes called on their cell phones. That was in 2001 and Im sure technology has improved since then and as far as I know cell phone still wont work in planes. Maybe thats why they require you to turn them off? So the scam isnt exposed.
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I was flying yesterday and I started thinking about 9/11 and how people claimed that they received calls from loved ones on hijacked planes. How is that possible? Unless you have a satallite phone how would your cell work while flying? Even if you cell phone could connect to a tower on the ground (which Im doubtful) wouldnt you lose your signal because you are traveling so fast?
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In 2001, cell phones were almost ALL analog, AND more powerful than what you get today. THAT is just a fact that 'truthers' DO NOT want to accept.
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I wish the mythbusters team did a special on 911. I think this one, given the technolology available in 2001 would be busted.
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I was flying yesterday and I started thinking about 9/11 and how people claimed that they received calls from loved ones on hijacked planes. How is that possible? Unless you have a satallite phone how would your cell work while flying? Even if you cell phone could connect to a tower on the ground (which Im doubtful) wouldnt you lose your signal because you are traveling so fast?


In 2001, cell phones were almost ALL analog, AND more powerful than what you get today. THAT is just a fact that 'truthers' DO NOT want to accept.
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lol?

Please go back to your cave moron.
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I was flying yesterday and I started thinking about 9/11 and how people claimed that they received calls from loved ones on hijacked planes. How is that possible? Unless you have a satallite phone how would your cell work while flying? Even if you cell phone could connect to a tower on the ground (which Im doubtful) wouldnt you lose your signal because you are traveling so fast?
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They were flying those planes at a super low altitude, remember?

Also, companies (Verizon for one) verified calls. One of the callers actually spoke with an operator. I've called from my phone on the plane before 9-11. After, it hasn't been possible unless the plane's on the ground. And, at that time, they actually had phones on the plane that you could use IN FLIGHT to make calls. Some of those were used in addition to cell phones.

Those calls were real. Family members really spoke to their loved ones. Are you thinking that wives only THOUGHT they were speaking to their husbands? The calls were faked? I sure know my husband's voice.

Not everything is some big conspiracy. And there's no conspiracy here. Get better facts before wild, baseless assumptions get the best of your thinking.
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I was flying yesterday and I started thinking about 9/11 and how people claimed that they received calls from loved ones on hijacked planes. How is that possible? Unless you have a satallite phone how would your cell work while flying? Even if you cell phone could connect to a tower on the ground (which Im doubtful) wouldnt you lose your signal because you are traveling so fast?



They were flying those planes at a super low altitude, remember?

Also, companies (Verizon for one) verified calls. One of the callers actually spoke with an operator. I've called from my phone on the plane before 9-11. After, it hasn't been possible unless the plane's on the ground. And, at that time, they actually had phones on the plane that you could use IN FLIGHT to make calls. Some of those were used in addition to cell phones.

Those calls were real. Family members really spoke to their loved ones. Are you thinking that wives only THOUGHT they were speaking to their husbands? The calls were faked? I sure know my husband's voice.

Not everything is some big conspiracy. And there's no conspiracy here. Get better facts before wild, baseless assumptions get the best of your thinking.
 Quoting: telling it straight 642221


You must have had one heck of a cell phone in 2001. I was living on Ft Polk, LA when 9/11 happened and I had Sprint and once I left post I couldnt even pick up a signal. There is no way I could have gotten one on a plane going 500 miles per hour.

Also I thought the people who called home where on the flight that crashed in PA. Thats the flight where the guy was supposed to have said "lets roll" right? THAT flight was NOT close to the ground....
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I wish the mythbusters team did a special on 911. I think this one, given the technolology available in 2001 would be busted.
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They wouldnt touch this with a 10 foot pole....
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I was flying yesterday and I started thinking about 9/11 and how people claimed that they received calls from loved ones on hijacked planes. How is that possible? Unless you have a satallite phone how would your cell work while flying? Even if you cell phone could connect to a tower on the ground (which Im doubtful) wouldnt you lose your signal because you are traveling so fast?
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Maybe someone with more knowledge of the cellular network could answer this...

If I'm in an aircraft, say 35,000 ft. up and over a city, is that any different than me being on the ground and 35,000 feet from the nearest cell tower? In either case, it's around 6-7 miles. I've made cell phone calls from some pretty remote places where I doubt there was a cell tower for miles.
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I was flying yesterday and I started thinking about 9/11 and how people claimed that they received calls from loved ones on hijacked planes. How is that possible? Unless you have a satallite phone how would your cell work while flying? Even if you cell phone could connect to a tower on the ground (which Im doubtful) wouldnt you lose your signal because you are traveling so fast?



They were flying those planes at a super low altitude, remember?

Also, companies (Verizon for one) verified calls. One of the callers actually spoke with an operator. I've called from my phone on the plane before 9-11. After, it hasn't been possible unless the plane's on the ground. And, at that time, they actually had phones on the plane that you could use IN FLIGHT to make calls. Some of those were used in addition to cell phones.

Those calls were real. Family members really spoke to their loved ones. Are you thinking that wives only THOUGHT they were speaking to their husbands? The calls were faked? I sure know my husband's voice.

Not everything is some big conspiracy. And there's no conspiracy here. Get better facts before wild, baseless assumptions get the best of your thinking.
 Quoting: telling it straight 642221

bullshit. At 600mph and with the line of sight to several towers at once it would have been a cluster. If there were real calls made they werent from a plane.
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I was flying yesterday and I started thinking about 9/11 and how people claimed that they received calls from loved ones on hijacked planes. How is that possible? Unless you have a satallite phone how would your cell work while flying? Even if you cell phone could connect to a tower on the ground (which Im doubtful) wouldnt you lose your signal because you are traveling so fast?


Maybe someone with more knowledge of the cellular network could answer this...

If I'm in an aircraft, say 35,000 ft. up and over a city, is that any different than me being on the ground and 35,000 feet from the nearest cell tower? In either case, it's around 6-7 miles. I've made cell phone calls from some pretty remote places where I doubt there was a cell tower for miles.
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Thats what Im hoping for. Good point though. Im not sure how cell towers work. Do they beam their signal up or just along the ground? Also, there were fewer cell towers in 2001 than there are today. That was 8 years ago even though it does not seem like it was that long ago.
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OP-Good question-I have always wondered if they used cell phones. I have another question: If they weren't using cell phones in the air, where were they calling from?
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I was flying yesterday and I started thinking about 9/11 and how people claimed that they received calls from loved ones on hijacked planes. How is that possible? Unless you have a satallite phone how would your cell work while flying? Even if you cell phone could connect to a tower on the ground (which Im doubtful) wouldnt you lose your signal because you are traveling so fast?



They were flying those planes at a super low altitude, remember?

Also, companies (Verizon for one) verified calls. One of the callers actually spoke with an operator. I've called from my phone on the plane before 9-11. After, it hasn't been possible unless the plane's on the ground. And, at that time, they actually had phones on the plane that you could use IN FLIGHT to make calls. Some of those were used in addition to cell phones.

Those calls were real. Family members really spoke to their loved ones. Are you thinking that wives only THOUGHT they were speaking to their husbands? The calls were faked? I sure know my husband's voice.

Not everything is some big conspiracy. And there's no conspiracy here. Get better facts before wild, baseless assumptions get the best of your thinking.

bullshit. At 600mph and with the line of sight to several towers at once it would have been a cluster. If there were real calls made they werent from a plane.
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Oh PULLEEEEEEEEEEZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I don't know much about cell phones except what I've read on the internet. Apparently, the cell phone communicates with the cellular towers and signal strengths are compared and a connection is made with the strongest signal coming from a single tower. If that signal weakens, the call is then lost. If a single tower with the strongest signal cannot be distinguished, a connection is never made(as in a cell phone simultaneously contacting multiple towers while at altitude in a plane, moving at a high rate of speed).

At any rate, I fly, and bought a little doohickey to connect my cell phone into my headset so I could make a call with the engine running. Works just fine on the tarmac, but is absolutely useless in the air. I could not get a cell phone connection at all while in flight, not from 10,000 feet and not from 1000 feet.
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Any pilot must know this(that has tried to use a cell phone in flight), but I think most pilots that make their living flying can't mention such a thing since they aren't supposed to be using cell phones while in flight.
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I was flying yesterday and I started thinking about 9/11 and how people claimed that they received calls from loved ones on hijacked planes. How is that possible? Unless you have a satallite phone how would your cell work while flying? Even if you cell phone could connect to a tower on the ground (which Im doubtful) wouldnt you lose your signal because you are traveling so fast?


In 2001, cell phones were almost ALL analog, AND more powerful than what you get today. THAT is just a fact that 'truthers' DO NOT want to accept.



lol?

Please go back to your cave moron.
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Flew quite a bit in '03 and '04,east coast to mi, tried to use my cell every time with ZERO sucess. Don't work on no aeroplane!
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Any pilot must know this(that has tried to use a cell phone in flight), but I think most pilots that make their living flying can't mention such a thing since they aren't supposed to be using cell phones while in flight.
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LOL...same thing goes for talking heads on news shows. Want to get fired? Start bringing up relevent FACTS about 911.
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That must be why there is nothing but worthless whimpering punks on TV these days babbling about ballon boy.
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I was flying yesterday and I started thinking about 9/11 and how people claimed that they received calls from loved ones on hijacked planes. How is that possible? Unless you have a satallite phone how would your cell work while flying? Even if you cell phone could connect to a tower on the ground (which Im doubtful) wouldnt you lose your signal because you are traveling so fast?


In 2001, cell phones were almost ALL analog, AND more powerful than what you get today. THAT is just a fact that 'truthers' DO NOT want to accept.



lol?

Please go back to your cave moron.


Flew quite a bit in '03 and '04,east coast to mi, tried to use my cell every time with ZERO sucess. Don't work on no aeroplane!
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In 2001, cell phones were almost ALL analog, AND more powerful than what you get today. THAT is just a fact that 'truthers' DO NOT want to accept.
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Very true. I lived in the mountains in Cali through 2007 and we had to get rid of our digital cell phones and go analog in order to get a signal.





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