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Iodine causes massiving pissing and pooping of fluoride out of the body

 
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If a person takes high dose iodide tablets instead of only getting minimal iodine from salt and diet, that person's excreting of Fluoride and Bromide can increase up to 18-fold (18 times) more than they usually eliminate.

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Based on a review of previous studies, we have calculated the amount of iodine/iodide necessary for sufficiency of the whole human body. (13) This amount was equivalent to 2 drops of Lugol solution, containing 5 mg iodine and 7.5 mg iodide. We tested a solid dosage form containing 2 drops of Lugol per tablet, administered daily for 3 months in 10 healthy women. There was no adverse effects observed on urinalysis, hematology, blood chemistry, thyroid functions and ultrasound of the thyroid. (14)

In the process of developing an iodine/iodide-loading test to assess sufficiency of the whole human body, we measured the amount of the 4 halides in 24h urine collections in 3 male and 3 female subjects under baseline conditions, and following a single ingestion of one, two and three tablets of the preparation, and in 5 of the subjects following one month on 3 tablets/day. Urinary levels of fluoride, chloride, bromide and iodide were measured by the ion-selective electrode procedure. (15) Chloride levels were measured directly in urine samples, and the other 3 halides were measured following chromatography on anion exchange resin. There was a progressive increase in urinary levels of fluoride and bromide with increasing intake of the preparation. The highest urinary levels were observed following 3 tablets. These high levels persisted even after one month on 3 tablets. The table presents the results obtained in a male subject following a single dose of one, two and three tablets; and after one month on 3 tabl ets of this preparation.

He did not reach iodine sufficiency even after one month on 3 tablets/day. Based on the results of the loading test, the body is considered iodine sufficient when at least 90% of the oral amount is excreted in the 24h urine collection. Urinary iodine levels in this subject were 149.6 uM/24h or 19 mg/24h representing only 51% of the dose.

The baseline level of urinary fluoride was very low, but bromide concentration was 18.4 mg/24h, 3 times the ADI recommended by Van Leeuwen et al. (6) Following supplementation with the iodine/iodide preparation, there was a progressive increase in the excretion of fluoride and bromide. With 3 tablets, the 24h excretion of fluoride was 17.5 times baseline level; and for bromide, 18 times baseline level. These high levels persisted even after one month of supplementation at 3 tablets/day, being 15 times baseline level for fluoride, and 16 times for bromide. After one month, the estimated total amount of halide excreted was 24 mg fluoride and 8700mg bromide. It is unlikely that such large amounts of halides came from the thyroid gland. It would seem that the whole body is being detoxified. Orthoiodo-supplementation could be used under medical supervision to detoxify the body from unwanted halides in a manner similar to the use of EDTA for the detoxification of heavy metals.
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don't take lugol's solution. Get your iodine in the form of seaweeds in raw or pill form. But preferably just eat it raw. Dulse is soft and kelp is good too. You'll have great bowel movements and healthy thyroid and yes, it does chelate metals, especially the brown seaweed. hf
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don't take lugol's solution. Get your iodine in the form of seaweeds in raw or pill form. But preferably just eat it raw. Dulse is soft and kelp is good too. You'll have great bowel movements and healthy thyroid and yes, it does chelate metals, especially the brown seaweed. hf
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don't take lugol's solution. Get your iodine in the form of seaweeds in raw or pill form. But preferably just eat it raw. Dulse is soft and kelp is good too. You'll have great bowel movements and healthy thyroid and yes, it does chelate metals, especially the brown seaweed. hf
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how much do you need to eat on a daily basis?
happy now?
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don't take lugol's solution. Get your iodine in the form of seaweeds in raw or pill form. But preferably just eat it raw. Dulse is soft and kelp is good too. You'll have great bowel movements and healthy thyroid and yes, it does chelate metals, especially the brown seaweed. hf


how much do you need to eat on a daily basis?
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Potassium Iodide tablets

you couldnt eat enough seaweed to do the detoxification we are talking about - we're talking up to one 32 mg potassium iodide tablet (containing 24 mg iodine) per day divided into quarters taken 4 times
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Source Naturals Brand has potassium Iodide tablets

you an either buy them for 6 dollars or you can buy 600 dollars worth of seaweed and chow down

your choice, the other poster is giving retarded advice in terms of fluoride detox
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What's wrong with Logel's Solution?
Throwing more erroneous useless information into the original arguement.
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youre going to want potassium iodide tablets because its not good for you to eat the amount of seaweed you would need to do a month detox regimen

after the month detox switch to having some seaweed in your diet and back down below 2 mg a day of iodide

ask a natural doctor about it

seaweed is far to weak to remove fluoride adequately
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What's wrong with Logel's Solution?
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contains free iodine with potassium iodide - expensive, retarded, 1880ish type formula, senseless when potassium iodide tablets work and are 6 dollars, its iodide you wantnot iodide/free iodine combo

you may find folklore liquids that been around for 100+ years attractive though, a psychological issue like brand name recognition
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I may have missed something but does all that fluoride and bromide have to go through your kidneys and liver?

If that is the case then I'd take it easy with the iodine and stretch out the cleansing process.

I admit I don't know enough to really say something but just wanted to point it out.
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I've been taking one of these capsules everyday for about a month and noticed an improvement in my mode, energy, and endurance. It's not a large amount but enough to make me think its worth checking out if you have low thyroid.

NOW Thyroid Energy

I don't have any heath issues to speak of but if you do then think about how it might effect you and if you aren't sure then find out. If you aren't certain as to weather or not to take something then ask your doctor.
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I may have missed something but does all that fluoride and bromide have to go through your kidneys and liver?

If that is the case then I'd take it easy with the iodine and stretch out the cleansing process.

I admit I don't know enough to really say something but just wanted to point it out.
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try 5 mg of iodide one time per day for an extended period - this is more conservative than the study that used 7.5 mg 3 times daily
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This source of Iodine/iodides has been convenient for us. [link to www.optimox.com]
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Dr. Brownstein has an excellent book on the detoxing of bromine and other health benefits of proper iodine supplementation at [link to www.drbrownstein.com (secure)]
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What's wrong with Logel's Solution?


contains free iodine with potassium iodide - expensive, retarded, 1880ish type formula, senseless when potassium iodide tablets work and are 6 dollars, its iodide you wantnot iodide/free iodine combo

you may find folklore liquids that been around for 100+ years attractive though, a psychological issue like brand name recognition
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OP - where do you get your potassium iodide and do you recommend any certain brand? I seem to remember pricing it (probably the free iodine you're talking about) once and the cost was prohibitive so I just forgot about it.
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You can buy some at www.iherb.com. 1st time customers get $5 off with code JOL942.
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Dr. Brownstein's recomendation is to include free iodine as well as the iodide forms in any supplement to the diet. Lugol's solution does that, and the more expensive Ioderal is simply a solid form, easy to take tablet, of Lugol's solution. Some people find the Lugol's solution awkward to take and unpleasant to the taste.
"Dumb fuck" seems a little pushy.
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don't take lugol's solution. Get your iodine in the form of seaweeds in raw or pill form. But preferably just eat it raw. Dulse is soft and kelp is good too. You'll have great bowel movements and healthy thyroid and yes, it does chelate metals, especially the brown seaweed. hf


how much do you need to eat on a daily basis?


Potassium Iodide tablets

you couldnt eat enough seaweed to do the detoxification we are talking about - we're talking up to one 32 mg potassium iodide tablet (containing 24 mg iodine) per day divided into quarters taken 4 times
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Yes, and what you're talking about is TOXIC.

Modifilan,
look it up. s226
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Dr. Brownstein's recomendation is to include free iodine as well as the iodide forms in any supplement to the diet. Lugol's solution does that, and the more expensive Ioderal is simply a solid form, easy to take tablet, of Lugol's solution. Some people find the Lugol's solution awkward to take and unpleasant to the taste.
"Dumb fuck" seems a little pushy.
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Some people DIE from it. s226
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WHY would I want to get rid of the Fluoride in my body?

I kind of know but why not fill out the thread with some information instead of the blatant spamming?

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Edgar Cayce site has the BESt Iodine, called atomodine. You take a single drop in a glass of water every morning. Do not eat or drink for 1/2 hour after taking it. THAT'S IT!

[link to www.baar.com]

Click on Cayce Care products

This is the link to the spot we buy our.

Atomic Iodine, 2 oz Item #161
Price: $15.95
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Dr. Brownstein's recomendation is to include free iodine as well as the iodide forms in any supplement to the diet. Lugol's solution does that, and the more expensive Ioderal is simply a solid form, easy to take tablet, of Lugol's solution. Some people find the Lugol's solution awkward to take and unpleasant to the taste.
"Dumb fuck" seems a little pushy.



Some people DIE from it. s226
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Dr Brownstein makes a very good case that many people, especially Americans, die from a lack of taking a Lugol's solution or equivalent to supplement their extremely iodine deficient diet. Brownstein uses the iodine intake of the average Japanese and their health statistics to make his case. He suggests that the U.S. RDA for iodine is low by a factor of about 85 for optimum health.
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i use magnescent.. but i like iodine.. and not iodide as much..

seaweed has heavy metals in it. avoid.

you can detox the bromine out your skin, it will appear as acne.
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Thanks this is a keeper.
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Question for those taking iodine: Does anyone get a feeling of a lump in their throat after taking it for a couple of days?

I have symptoms of low thyroid but blood tests are in normal range; but still wanted to try iodine. I've taken "Organic Iodine dietary supplement from alfalfa and sea dulse" with colloidal iodine but within 2 days my throat gets that lump sensation, so I stop. Could this be affecting my thyroid negatively? Is it a detox symptom? Does it mean I should stop the iodine, or does it mean my body is deficient and I should continue it?
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Question for those taking iodine: Does anyone get a feeling of a lump in their throat after taking it for a couple of days?

I have symptoms of low thyroid but blood tests are in normal range; but still wanted to try iodine. I've taken "Organic Iodine dietary supplement from alfalfa and sea dulse" with colloidal iodine but within 2 days my throat gets that lump sensation, so I stop. Could this be affecting my thyroid negatively? Is it a detox symptom? Does it mean I should stop the iodine, or does it mean my body is deficient and I should continue it?
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yes, this is your thyroid.. you are teasing it with the iodine and its going goiter on you.

What was your TSH?

Do you take selenium or salt load with the iodine? Do you only take it once a day?
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yes, this is your thyroid.. you are teasing it with the iodine and its going goiter on you.

What was your TSH?

Do you take selenium or salt load with the iodine? Do you only take it once a day?
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Thank you. The doctor only said the TSH was in "normal range" -- didn't give me a number.

I use sea salt and have only recently learned that it doesn't have enough iodine. Also I'm vegetarian and eat quite healthy -- no fast foods, etc.

I take the iodine once a day, have tried at night and also in the morning but no difference in this lump sensation.
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Oh and no selenium.
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What about people that are already taking Synthroid and potassium with a prescription.
I know to much can be worse than not enough.Can make your heart race and cause a big problem.
This always concerns me when people post to take this or that because depending on your condition,etc it can kill you. I kept reading about all the benefits of Echinacea so I got some.Had an allergic reaction thus big problems and doctor bills.Lots of things can be dangerous when combined with another medicine or herb.

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