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| Eagle Eye
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10/26/2009 10:28 AM | | Re: A movie the MSM is too scared to touch | Quote |
This is an extremely powerful movie that exposes Japanese barbarity. It's been very highly rated and critically acclaimed. Word is spreading across the 'net because most MSM is too scared to touch it:
[ link to thecovemovie.com]
The only barbarity I see rests in the hands of the documentarians, who go out of their way to portray humans who consume fish as monsters.
When you learn and understand how Americans have been psychologically prepped, from their youth, to view dolphins as humans with fins, you will learn to SEE how the push for world government INCLUDED a planned attack on nations' sovereignty, and that you were prepared to accept it from the time you were a child.
To conquer each nation, the globalists' plan was to attack that nation's strength that sustained that nation's independence. For America, it was her INDUSTRY! The Auto Industry, her factories, etc. These globalists went out if their way to portray the West as the earth's polluter--now they call it GLOBAL WARMING! And we know THAT'S a lie! But it worked! Take a look at Detroit, and America's now-destroyed economy....
Asia's strength and independance--before China copied America's industrial model--was the FISHING industry!
So a member of this globalist think-tank, Walt Disney, got together with his cronies in one of their many Council on Foreign Relations meetings to create a very lovable and human-like Dolphin called Flipper! And you were thus prepared from your childhood to attack those nations, in the futere which is now) who rely on, and have relied on, fishing the ocean's reserves to maintain their independence, and demonize them when the time was right!
Now is that time. And you still have those programmed images of Flipper dancing around in your head and are willing to allow humans to eventually starve when those who now control the world's food supply establish laws that will prevent these people from fishing, and therefore feeding themselves, because you fell in love with a psychological program called Flipper! |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/26/2009 10:29 AM | | Re: A movie the MSM is too scared to touch | Quote |
This is a problem for one reason: THEY ARE ENDANGERED. We should not be killing endangered fucking species. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 656642
10/26/2009 10:39 AM | | Re: A movie the MSM is too scared to touch | Quote |
Good point. What is ironic is that most of the people in the 'world is too populated' group are opposed to killing dolphins. Go figure. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 785536
I always shake my head at that logic as well. Don't kill any animal but kill a fetus. How does that make sense? Sorry, I know off topic.
I've seen this before. Let me run something by you guys and see if you agree...
America and the rest of the world does the same thing (slaughter) with cows, pigs, chickens, goats, sheep etc. There is a slaughter on a massive scale of all kinds of animals including other fish, Tuna anyone?
Yet people get all upset over dolphins! Why are some animals more "valuable" than others? I mean, in India a cow is sacred! To the rest of the world it is a delicious steak or a juicy hamburger.
Perhaps it's all culture and perspective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 803080
Cows, pigs, chickens, goats, sheep, etc are domesticated livestock bred for consumption and for reproduction. Dolphins and whales are not domesticated livestock. When you start seeing dolphin and whale farms then you won't see the outrage.
So in a sense it is culture as those animals are livestock.
Now how many people would eat a dog? In other cultures, dogs are eaten. As long as their is moderation in all things, nature will be kept in check. It is when animals are hunted to near extinction or left unchecked that things go wrong. |
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10/26/2009 11:07 AM | | Re: A movie the MSM is too scared to touch | Quote |
I have been shocked at how badly we treat animals in certain sectors in the West and I include the horrors meted out by those under the spell of Monsanto.
But... having seen what happens in the Far East and how completely without empathy or compassion they seem to be, I have been wondering about why there seems to be this huge difference between the West and the Far East.
boiling dogs and cats alive because the terror makes their meat more delicate, eating monkey brains out of a live monkey, the absolute horrors, true horrors in commercial farms over there... the level of cruelty is as striking as how ubiquitous it is. It's common. It's everywhere. It's part of daily life. It's in the markets, it's in the streets, it's in the homes.
I remember dinner with a WWII veteran and we were discussing this very thing. He told me that what struck him about the campaigns in the Far East was how absolutely cruel they were. How as a White Western man the Yellow man appeared to be "unrecognisable as a human being" such was the level of brutality that the troops witnessed and especially the POWs.
Because of the Jewish influence over the media and press here, the West thinks only of Hitler and the concentration camps when you think of barbarity, but these pale to insignificance almost when you look at the very long and bloody history of the Far East. Genghis Khan, for example, made Hitler look like a social worker by comparison.
And in China you have hear many 1000s of years of the most extreme cruelty to baby girls on a vast scale only ended by Chairman Mao in the 1920s. We're talking not just thousands, not just millions, not even 10s millions or 100s millions but BILLIONS of baby girls over millennia screaming in raw pain for many years as their bones in their feet were broken and they were forced to walk on broken toes and agonising bound feet that were so distorted that the very bones that were growing changed shape, snapped, lacerated already raw and swollen tissue... and these girls were made to work in fields, carry water, etc despite broken bones in broken feet.
For a parent, for a mother, to do that to a child day after day, month after month, year after year is something that for White Western people simply is behind words let alone any ability to understand or identify with.
There was a Chinese saying that the little girls were taught: Your pain only ends after you have filled a bath with your tears. Quoting: Witness_
O right the same chairman who for the social egress had 100 million people die from starvation+ during the cultural revolution, yes i see now, how kind he was to ensure all those bound footed baby girls just kept on working but without the foot impediments. You really need to understand its not cruelty in the east unless its done to you, care of the religious affiliations that reincarnation has engendered, its your fate, you were obviously wicked in your last life and now its your turn to suffer, better you than me is how it actually works out, and you are not helping the debate by painting things in rose colored glasses. If things are going to improve they need to be remembered , dealt with, finalized, resolved, move on and up, otherwise the same old same old will keep on happening. |
| Atheist
User ID: 800786
10/26/2009 11:10 AM
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Look at this sick fuck!
His meter comment, his sig, his avatar and even his name.
It is just so surprising of a comment.
Now I'd be for culling of people like this! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 797697
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 802888
10/26/2009 11:16 AM | | Re: A movie the MSM is too scared to touch | Quote |
This is an extremely powerful movie that exposes Japanese barbarity. It's been very highly rated and critically acclaimed. Word is spreading across the 'net because most MSM is too scared to touch it:
[ link to thecovemovie.com]
Hypocrisy 101.
We slaughter Pigs. We Eat Pigs. Pigs are smart.
The fact most dolphins "cute" and "Adorable" means fuck all.
Sorry.
True. Pigs have the intelligence of human children. |
| Witness_ 
User ID: 735641
10/26/2009 11:29 AM
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O right the same chairman who for the social egress had 100 million people die from starvation+ during the cultural revolution, yes i see now, how kind he was to ensure all those bound footed baby girls just kept on working but without the foot impediments. You really need to understand its not cruelty in the east unless its done to you, care of the religious affiliations that reincarnation has engendered, its your fate, you were obviously wicked in your last life and now its your turn to suffer, better you than me is how it actually works out, and you are not helping the debate by painting things in rose colored glasses. If things are going to improve they need to be remembered , dealt with, finalized, resolved, move on and up, otherwise the same old same old will keep on happening. Quoting: . 802882
Dude,he stopped the foot binding. That's what I posted. Did I say he was a great guy?
I am very aware of how sick we was. But he did stop the foot binding and my point was the length of time that they had done this for. It was for such a vast period of time and it was only recently that it stopped. Not once in all that time did anyone else try to stop it.
My point was the mindset. |
| Atheist
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10/26/2009 11:29 AM
| | Witness_
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10/26/2009 11:30 AM
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If things are going to improve they need to be remembered , dealt with, finalized, resolved, move on and up, otherwise the same old same old will keep on happening. Quoting: . 802882
Yep, I agree with you. Should apply to WWII as well. |
| Atheist
User ID: 800786
10/26/2009 11:31 AM
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Hypocrisy 101.
We slaughter Pigs. We Eat Pigs. Pigs are smart.
The fact most dolphins "cute" and "Adorable" means fuck all.
Sorry.
True. Pigs have the intelligence of human children. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 802888
Yep, you dont see people bitching about pigs being killed.
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| Witness_
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10/26/2009 11:32 AM
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So your point is that because cruelty exists we are justified in being cruel?
So, for examples, male dogs will fuck their mothers. So now that happens, according to your logic, incest is okay in humans? |
| Witness_
User ID: 735641
10/26/2009 11:36 AM
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Hypocrisy 101.
We slaughter Pigs. We Eat Pigs. Pigs are smart.
The fact most dolphins "cute" and "Adorable" means fuck all.
Sorry.
True. Pigs have the intelligence of human children.
Yep, you dont see people bitching about pigs being killed. Quoting: Atheist
Err.. you do.
and also it's the WAY that they are killed.
But actually the barbaric treatment of pigs HAS been highlighted here (by me, actually) before.
they do the most terrible things to them and in front of their mothers. The mothers are so traumatised that they actually just eventually try to die. This is actually the state that farmers WANT the sows to be in because they will just lie on the ground and do nothing, so they can just be impregnated and used as breeding machines over and over again.
Seeing their babies mutilated in front of them, hearing their screams, literally drives these mothers into depression and madness. |
| Atheist
User ID: 800786
10/26/2009 11:38 AM
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So your point is that because cruelty exists we are justified in being cruel?
So, for examples, male dogs will fuck their mothers. So now that happens, according to your logic, incest is okay in humans? Quoting: Witness_
Im saying the savage nature of life and survival dictates that killing another species or sometimes your own for survival is how it works.
Human beings would have never have been as sucessful as we are without killing and eating other animals.
Its not pleasant to watch 100s of dolphins being killed, they are marvelous animals, but, it is no different than killing 100s of pigs, or cows or any other animals.
If anybody thinks cruelty to animals will stop they are misguided IMO, if we cant even stop being cruel to our fellow humams, we are never going to treat animals with respect.
Anybody who thinks otherwise is wasting an effort that could otherwise be put towards something helpful like stopping the genoside in darfur.
Last Edited by Atheist on 10/26/2009 at 11:51 AM
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| Astronut
User ID: 634208
10/26/2009 11:42 AM | | Re: A movie the MSM is too scared to touch | Quote |
In which case cannibalism is just culture and perspective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 803096
There is no moral equivalency between killing an animal and killing another human being. |
| Atheist
User ID: 800786
10/26/2009 11:42 AM
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But actually the barbaric treatment of pigs HAS been highlighted here (by me, actually) before.
they do the most terrible things to them and in front of their mothers. The mothers are so traumatised that they actually just eventually try to die. This is actually the state that farmers WANT the sows to be in because they will just lie on the ground and do nothing, so they can just be impregnated and used as breeding machines over and over again.
Seeing their babies mutilated in front of them, hearing their screams, literally drives these mothers into depression and madness. Quoting: Witness_
Such is the savage nature of industrialized farming, its why i only eat free range poultry or fish, i dont eat red meat, at all.
Im not deluded into thinking i can stop this human behaviour though, like i said, we cant even treat fellow humans with respect, expecting it to happen for animals, you are wasting your time.
The cutesy ideal of the dolphin doesnt help either, its an animal just like any other and can be capable of savagery at times.
I have respect for animals, more than people on this forum know, i dont anthropomorphize them though.
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| Atheist
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10/26/2009 11:49 AM
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Cows, pigs, chickens, goats, sheep, etc are domesticated livestock bred for consumption and for reproduction. Dolphins and whales are not domesticated livestock. When you start seeing dolphin and whale farms then you won't see the outrage.
So in a sense it is culture as those animals are livestock.
Now how many people would eat a dog? In other cultures, dogs are eaten. As long as their is moderation in all things, nature will be kept in check. It is when animals are hunted to near extinction or left unchecked that things go wrong. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 656642
If you think about it that way killing the farm animals is more cruel as they are never free and are subject to confinement for their lifetime.
The dolphins are free and in the wild and left to roam before they are hunted.
Last Edited by Atheist on 10/26/2009 at 11:50 AM
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| birdie
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10/26/2009 11:51 AM | | Re: A movie the MSM is too scared to touch | Quote |
I've seen this before. Let me run something by you guys and see if you agree...
America and the rest of the world does the same thing (slaughter) with cows, pigs, chickens, goats, sheep etc. There is a slaughter on a massive scale of all kinds of animals including other fish, Tuna anyone?
Yet people get all upset over dolphins! Why are some animals more "valuable" than others? I mean, in India a cow is sacred! To the rest of the world it is a delicious steak or a juicy hamburger.
Perhaps it's all culture and perspective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 803080
Or a better question is why are people so upset by the slaughter of dolphins, but would actually defend the slaughter of humans in the womb? The world is completely upside down. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 802774
10/26/2009 11:56 AM | | Re: A movie the MSM is too scared to touch | Quote |
So your point is that because cruelty exists we are justified in being cruel?
So, for examples, male dogs will fuck their mothers. So now that happens, according to your logic, incest is okay in humans?
Im saying the savage nature of life and survival dictates that killing another species or sometimes your own for survival is how it works.
Human beings would have never have been as sucessful as we are without killing and eating other animals.
Its not pleasant to watch 100s of dolphins being killed, they are marvelous animals, but, it is no different than killing 100s of pigs, or cows or any other animals.
If anybody thinks cruelty to animals will stop they are misguided IMO, if we cant even stop being cruel to our fellow humams, we are never going to treat animals with respect.
Anybody who thinks otherwise is wasting an effort that could otherwise be put towards something helpful like stopping the genoside in darfur. Quoting: Atheist
right. ... and mass killing (slaughter houses) should be outlawed |
| Atheist
User ID: 800786
10/26/2009 12:17 PM
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right. ... and mass killing (slaughter houses) should be outlawed Quoting: Anonymous Coward 802774
People gotta eat, then what? Vegetarian/vegan only diet for everybody on the planet?
Somebody still has to industrialize farming for 6 billion people, that involves heavy machinery.
Tractors and harvesters will kill animals whilst harvesting vegetarian/vegan crops, so you are back to square one.
They have to harvest grain and wheat with a combine harvester which will kill whatever birds, voles and mice etc which live in the field.
Everybody has to own a self sufficient manually farmed vegetarian/vegan farm, thats the only way to end animal cruety in the food industry.
But you also have the displacement of animals from habbitat by industry for plastics and fuel production, settlements etc.
The best thing any animal rights activist can do to save animals is kill themselves, there is no other more efficient way to save more animal lives.
It is a moral paradox, nothing you can do will ever save all animals from suffering, its a result of existing.
You can lessen the effects, but you can never stop them, so why bother.
Last Edited by Atheist on 10/26/2009 at 12:18 PM
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 735641 (OP)
10/26/2009 12:54 PM | | Re: A movie the MSM is too scared to touch | Quote |
I think that the issue here is that the death is an incredibly barbaric one, extremely cruel.
Also, dolphins (and whales) are very sentient animals, they a also mammals and so hunting and killing them in this manner is equivalent to doing it to a human in this manner. |
| Atheist
User ID: 800786
10/26/2009 3:26 PM
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I think that the issue here is that the death is an incredibly barbaric one, extremely cruel.
Also, dolphins (and whales) are very sentient animals, they a also mammals and so hunting and killing them in this manner is equivalent to doing it to a human in this manner. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 735641
No, just no.
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| Anonymous Coward
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10/26/2009 3:30 PM | | Re: A movie the MSM is too scared to touch | Quote |
Cows, pigs, chickens, goats, sheep, etc are domesticated livestock bred for consumption and for reproduction. Dolphins and whales are not domesticated livestock. When you start seeing dolphin and whale farms then you won't see the outrage.
So in a sense it is culture as those animals are livestock.
Now how many people would eat a dog? In other cultures, dogs are eaten. As long as their is moderation in all things, nature will be kept in check. It is when animals are hunted to near extinction or left unchecked that things go wrong.
If you think about it that way killing the farm animals is more cruel as they are never free and are subject to confinement for their lifetime.
The dolphins are free and in the wild and left to roam before they are hunted. Quoting: Atheist
Pastured poultry, and 100 percent grassfed beef, pork, and lamb. At least they get to run around, not in confinements. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368651
10/26/2009 3:34 PM | | Re: A movie the MSM is too scared to touch | Quote |
This is an extremely powerful movie that exposes Japanese barbarity. It's been very highly rated and critically acclaimed. Word is spreading across the 'net because most MSM is too scared to touch it:
[ link to thecovemovie.com]
The only barbarity I see rests in the hands of the documentarians, who go out of their way to portray humans who consume fish as monsters.
When you learn and understand how Americans have been psychologically prepped, from their youth, to view dolphins as humans with fins, you will learn to SEE how the push for world government INCLUDED a planned attack on nations' sovereignty, and that you were prepared to accept it from the time you were a child.
To conquer each nation, the globalists' plan was to attack that nation's strength that sustained that nation's independence. For America, it was her INDUSTRY! The Auto Industry, her factories, etc. These globalists went out if their way to portray the West as the earth's polluter--now they call it GLOBAL WARMING! And we know THAT'S a lie! But it worked! Take a look at Detroit, and America's now-destroyed economy....
Asia's strength and independance--before China copied America's industrial model--was the FISHING industry!
So a member of this globalist think-tank, Walt Disney, got together with his cronies in one of their many Council on Foreign Relations meetings to create a very lovable and human-like Dolphin called Flipper! And you were thus prepared from your childhood to attack those nations, in the futere which is now) who rely on, and have relied on, fishing the ocean's reserves to maintain their independence, and demonize them when the time was right!
Now is that time. And you still have those programmed images of Flipper dancing around in your head and are willing to allow humans to eventually starve when those who now control the world's food supply establish laws that will prevent these people from fishing, and therefore feeding themselves, because you fell in love with a psychological program called Flipper!
Maybe humans are just a self-hating bunch. How many people would kill themselves before a mirror just to watch a man die?
Empathy easily burns out when viewing the worldwide scale. |
| Atheist
User ID: 800786
10/26/2009 3:36 PM
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Pastured poultry, and 100 percent grassfed beef, pork, and lamb. At least they get to run around, not in confinements. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 782508
Well the point is they dont have whale farms or dolphin farms.
So technically cattle farming is more cruel as the cattle are crammed into trucks and barns etc.
Even if they are free range they still have a fence around them.
The dolphins swim free.
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10/26/2009 3:42 PM | | Re: A movie the MSM is too scared to touch | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 792918
donkey kong country theme music?
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| Anonymous Coward
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10/26/2009 3:43 PM | | Re: A movie the MSM is too scared to touch | Quote |
Good point. What is ironic is that most of the people in the 'world is too populated' group are opposed to killing dolphins. Go figure. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 785536
You don't see DOLPHINS shitting on this planet like the humans do you?  |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/27/2009 12:58 AM | | Re: A movie the MSM is too scared to touch | Quote |
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10/27/2009 8:02 AM | | Re: A movie the MSM is too scared to touch | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward
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10/27/2009 8:10 AM | | Re: A movie the MSM is too scared to touch | Quote |
I've seen this before. Let me run something by you guys and see if you agree...
America and the rest of the world does the same thing (slaughter) with cows, pigs, chickens, goats, sheep etc. There is a slaughter on a massive scale of all kinds of animals including other fish, Tuna anyone?
Yet people get all upset over dolphins! Why are some animals more "valuable" than others? I mean, in India a cow is sacred! To the rest of the world it is a delicious steak or a juicy hamburger.
Perhaps it's all culture and perspective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 803080
I've wondered the same thing all my life. Especially the bit about the Indians. Cows are holy to them and we slaughter them all day long and don't think twice about it. Don't you think it breaks their hearts to know that we do this and don't even care? What if they were to take up arms and start sabotaging these slaughterhouses? Would they be right? Would we understand? Of course not. But, whales and dolphins are cute, so we feel that the Japanese (and whoever else still kills them) are barbarians and we have some honorbound duty to try to stop them for doing what they've always done. Are we right? Do you think they understand? And most of all, how does cute trump holy? |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/27/2009 6:56 PM | | Re: A movie the MSM is too scared to touch | Quote |
I don't think people know what dolphins and whales are. A dolphin will save you in the ocean. There sounds scientificly alter humans DNA and repairs it. 18 and a half million years ago the first apes appared that looked like monkeys with no tails. Dolphins and whales appeared at this same time. They are our guardians. |
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