You'd think people would stop watching them, but they keep adding more.
Latest one is 'extreme paranormal' where they do 'rituals' to make contact.
The only contact ever made is 'something touched me' or 'did you see that' maybe some digital noise.
How many more shows do we need until ghosts are completely debunked?
Interesting how popular they are.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 791835
I know, but I like Ghostly Encounters because it features people telling about their encounters and they feature only the most entertaining ones. Much more interesting than the ghost hunter shows with only a couple of days to try to get something on tape.
Paranormal State is hot, though. They really know how to find out the story behind the ghost.
GH Fan User ID: 805510 10/29/2009 2:49 AM
Re: So many ghost hunting shows and still no hard evidence
I watch Ghost Hunters because Kris Williams has got to be one of the hottest chicks on TV. I couldn't care less whether they find a ghost or not. I'm just waiting for the IR cameras they use...to give us a nice see-thru shot of her.
Amy Bruni ain't too bad either.
MYSPACE GHOST User ID: 626270 10/29/2009 2:54 AM
Re: So many ghost hunting shows and still no hard evidence
I grew up in a haunted house. Trust me ghosts are REAL. I had stuff happen to me that would make your hair stand on end.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 794923
I agree. As far as my experiences, I've had things happen in almost every home and apartment that I've lived in. I could write a novel from all the stuff that has happened to me over the years. But my recommendation to the OP is to hook up with a local paranormal group and go out with them to do some field work. It may take quite a few investigations, but something is likely to turn up sooner or later. And with that said, then I would draw my own conclusions from that. Personally, I am quite bored with all of those paranormal reality shows for they rarely amount to anything and are reduced to a lot of so called "investigators" cursing into the microphone. So instead of hearing anything clear, you hear a lot of spooky background music, accomodated with a bunch of bleeps from the censor button because the cast won't stop cursing.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 284944 10/29/2009 3:36 AM
Re: So many ghost hunting shows and still no hard evidence
I've read that ghosts are people that haven't properly "crossed over", I mean why are they bound to certain condemned building's and material possessions, it's as if they cannot leave, you would think after you die you can float anywhere. But ghosts cannot, they seem to be "tied" to a familiar area to them even if uninhabited and broken down and disgusting, places where no one would stay if given a choice. Ghosts seem to be unhappy, miserable, as if they are "stuck" in a shitty realm that is part 3d and part other dim. I would imagine they have not gotten to the proper death/reincarnation realm due to unresolved strong emotional feelings like anger, or ties to someone or something they can't let go.
I used to watch Ghost Hunters but got sick of it, same old thing every week, with the same "did you hear that?", boom, pop, and the "reveal", which they play some distorted EVP, then Jason says "you've been great". Chasing creeks gets old.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 794136
Quite right, those spirits may not want to let go yet, so they hang around...perhaps waiting for someone they love to pass over...
who knows
Anonymous Coward User ID: 793943 10/29/2009 3:52 AM
Re: So many ghost hunting shows and still no hard evidence
You'd think people would stop watching them, but they keep adding more.
Latest one is 'extreme paranormal' where they do 'rituals' to make contact.
The only contact ever made is 'something touched me' or 'did you see that' maybe some digital noise.
How many more shows do we need until ghosts are completely debunked?
Interesting how popular they are.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 791835
If they showed hard evidence, I think they'd lose a pretty big part of their audience. A lot of people watch just for that "no doubt" moment and would lose interest after such a climax. Perhaps they've found hard evidence, but made a business decision only to air material that leaves it to the mind of the viewer.
DrPostman Forum Moderator User ID: 801350 10/29/2009 4:06 AM
Re: So many ghost hunting shows and still no hard evidence
My girlfriend loves these shows. I try to keep my mouth
shut when we watch them together but it's not easy. I
especially hate "Most Haunted" with that blond spaze who
constantly does that "Did you just hear that!?!" or "I
just felt something!" hype. I guess people think that's
useful but it doesn't mean a damned thing. Most of the
"evp" crap is faked or manipulated. These are showmen
and not serious researchers. At least Most Haunted had
one of their mediums, Derek Acorah, get exposed for the
fraud that he is.
Of all of them "Ghost Lab" seems the most serious about doing
research. I wanted to do what they do back when my roommate
and I talked about it in the USAF in the early 80s. Little
did we know that if we had kept up with it we could have had
a hit TV show.
The most egregious of them all is "Extreme Paranormal". Those
guys are going to end up hurting themselves or someone else.
Last Edited by DrPostman on 10/29/2009 at 4:06 AM "I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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The only hard evidence you will ever get in regards to the paranormal is the personal one. For me, it has happened dozens of times and without any witnesses to back it up. So who am I going to tell? Most people would never believe me. So with that, keep an open mind and one day you might just be surprised. I know I was.
Quoting: mj-13
I think ghosts don't like me. For some reason I have had
numerous oportunities to experience them but haven't. I've
even stayed at a friend's house who claimed it was haunted
and didn't have anything happen. Rather disappointing, actually.
I may be crazy for this but I WANT to have an experience. I
do happen to believe our spirits carry on, and that some
get trapped here, or at least leave behind a strong form
of their essence.
because they only stay there less then 24hours .i like to see a ghosthunters were they stay for a week ,like serviver man.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 668934
I'd like to see them do 24/7 surveillance on a place for at
least a month. Find one that is supposed to be the most
active - set up the equipment, and stay the fuck out and
monitor from outside the location.
Why isn't there haunted house cams? Hmm, that gets me to
thinking. We have people set up Christmas light cams,
why not haunted locations cams?
I need financial backing though. It could be supported by
advertising.
Gonna bring this up when Mary wakes up for her classes. "I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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I just thought up the name and typed the URL and sure enough
it was already taken.
A day late and too many dollars short again! "I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
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These shows are designed to make peoples beliefs in ghosts ands spirits seem ludicrous. Which is a shame really because ghosts and spirits do exist - just not in the form that they are portrayed.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 746732 10/29/2009 4:31 AM
Re: So many ghost hunting shows and still no hard evidence
I don't know why this is pinned, and I don't care. Doesn't matter. I've seen countless "Unexplained" in search of shows, and it IS always the same. Never any proof.
they're simply just trying to further divide people from spirituality, god, the universe, the truth, whatever you want to call it... by making anything "paranormal" scary. auditory voices... seeing spirits or lights... seeing things move... something unbelievable. fear, fear... some people are addicted to it, they don't realize what it does to your perceptions.
if you were fearful of ghosts, because you watch scary movies about them.. and if, say, something approaches you and gives you a scare.. that fear is pretty tasty. think of it as feeding their pets.
but hey, what do i know.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 487397 10/29/2009 4:34 AM
Re: So many ghost hunting shows and still no hard evidence
outing myself as a believer right up front....
there is plenty of evidence out there in the form of experiences. skeptics want some kind of quantifiable, 'reproduce one in a lab' or 'let me got one on a table and disect it' kind of thing. the fact is, the world needs skeptics, the balance out people who are easily duped and can be taken advantage of easily. you want to hear some great paranormal stories? talk to some cops, they are trained observers and will tell you stories that will stand your hair on end. a few of them have see UFO things too but don't talk about it much.
At the end of the day once a skeptic announces the believe, they lose all their credibility with those who don't. it will never be resolved to everyone's satisfaction.
The most egregious of them all is "Extreme Paranormal". Those
guys are going to end up hurting themselves or someone else.
Quoting: DrPostman
Necromantic ceremonies are probably not usually conducted by flakey fat guys in the woods. That closing ceremony was a trifle hasty and I wonder if they called up some sticky funk that follows them around?
Ceremonial magic was historically performed with weeks or months of preparation and purification. And with utmost seriousness.
Tossing chicken blood and scribbling on the ground? Not to mention treating the entities with much disrespect? Man, If anything were to happen..
-it just couldn't be good.
Probably only good for parasitic low level entities.
I really wonder how the guy from the coffin or the other idiots luck is these days?
the audience WANT to be 'spooked' and 'scared' so its all about scaring them with tales of 'evil' and 'bad'. we have Most Haunted here in the UK. it used to be ok. they'd show orbs and even once you could see what looked like an arm swinging as a spirit moved towards them. now its changed to pander to the masses and 'spook' them out. they no longer talk about the orbs even tho you can clearly see them at times, their investigations are full of over dramatic men and screaming women. we have a week of it live for Halloween and they are looking for, get this crap, '7 Faces of Evil'. its a frikkin circus it really is. and the 2 people that run the show own the company so they ham it up the most. We the people
Are so fucking tired
Of all the corruption
And lies
This is Critical Mass
This is a system crash
Here and now
We'll rip and tear it down
And start over again
Cause we got nothing
To lose
And we got nothing
But time
Cause the spirit
Never dies
And we know about the lies
And they playin both sides
ANd they conquer
And divide
And we decided
That we want it to end ~ Hed PE
~•:*Winnie*:•~ the thread killer User ID: 805220 10/29/2009 5:23 AM
Re: So many ghost hunting shows and still no hard evidence
they're simply just trying to further divide people from spirituality, god, the universe, the truth, whatever you want to call it... by making anything "paranormal" scary. auditory voices... seeing spirits or lights... seeing things move... something unbelievable. fear, fear... some people are addicted to it, they don't realize what it does to your perceptions.
if you were fearful of ghosts, because you watch scary movies about them.. and if, say, something approaches you and gives you a scare.. that fear is pretty tasty. think of it as feeding their pets.
but hey, what do i know.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 759487
i agree with you on this. it ramps up the fear of the other side. further dividing it and us. We the people
Are so fucking tired
Of all the corruption
And lies
This is Critical Mass
This is a system crash
Here and now
We'll rip and tear it down
And start over again
Cause we got nothing
To lose
And we got nothing
But time
Cause the spirit
Never dies
And we know about the lies
And they playin both sides
ANd they conquer
And divide
And we decided
That we want it to end ~ Hed PE
I really wonder how the guy from the coffin or the other idiots luck is these days?
Quoting: Frigg Stuyvesant
Reciprocity can be a real bitch. Just watch and see. "I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
Can't PM? Feel free to email me at DrPostman(at)gmail.com
The most egregious of them all is "Extreme Paranormal". Those
guys are going to end up hurting themselves or someone else.
Necromantic ceremonies are probably not usually conducted by flakey fat guys in the woods. That closing ceremony was a trifle hasty and I wonder if they called up some sticky funk that follows them around?
Ceremonial magic was historically performed with weeks or months of preparation and purification. And with utmost seriousness.
Tossing chicken blood and scribbling on the ground? Not to mention treating the entities with much disrespect? Man, If anything were to happen..
-it just couldn't be good.
Probably only good for parasitic low level entities.
I really wonder how the guy from the coffin or the other idiots luck is these days?
Quoting: Frigg Stuyvesant
it says in the shows credits that the ceremonies are mostly edited out to keep people from trying them at home. The blond headed guy is the one who performs the rituals and i can tell by looking at him that he has a connection to the spirit world.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 333904 10/29/2009 5:58 AM
Re: So many ghost hunting shows and still no hard evidence
i have a neighbor who is a professional ghosthunter... they are censored... not allowed to broadcast all the facts they find... because we all know what that would cause if the truth came out...
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 733535
Oh really! What would that be then......do tell.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 805576 10/29/2009 6:52 AM
Re: So many ghost hunting shows and still no hard evidence
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