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The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob. The true Jewish people of ancient times, are the modern day remnant of the present times Palestinians. A true Jew is by birth inheritance, not by conversion to the belief of the true Jews.
90% of the Israeli population are descended from White, (Greek/Russian)European converts to Jewish beliefs and practices, in the last millennium.
90% of modern day, Israeli citizens are descended from White (Greek/Russian) European heritage.
Joel 3
The Nations Judged
1 "In those days and at that time when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem,(The Palestinians)
2 I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. There I will enter into judgment against them concerning my inheritance, my people Israel(The Palestinians), for they(White, Greek/European, Russian Converts) scattered my people(The Palestinians) among the nations and divided up my land.
3 They cast lots for my people(The Palestinians) and traded boys for prostitutes; they sold girls for wine that they might drink.
4 "Now what have you against me, O Tyre and Sidon(Lebanon) and all you regions of Philistia?(Jordon) Are you repaying me for something I have done? If you are paying me back, I will swiftly and speedily return on your own heads what you have done. 5 For you took my silver and my gold and carried off my finest treasures to your temples. 6 You sold the people of Judah and Jerusalem(The Palestinians) to the Greeks(White, Greek/European Russian Jewish converts), that you might send them far from their homeland.(The ancient land of the chosen people, the Palestinians)
7 "See, I am going to rouse them(The Palestinians) out of the places to which you(The deceitful Israeli nation) sold them, and I will return on your own heads what you have done. 8 I will sell your(White Greek/European convert-Israeli citizens) sons and daughters to the people of Judah(The Palestinians, the true descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob-the true people of the land, that they never left), and they will sell them to the Sabeans(The French), a nation far away." The LORD has spoken. |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 6:57 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
The inhabitants of the west bank and gaza regions are Arabs, just like the Jordanians, Egyptians, Syrians and Lebanese. Yes there are smaller groups such as the Samaritans but they are almost extinct now. The Druze, Alawite, Sunnia and Shia are all Arabs of various tribes. Yes, about 40% of Israelis are of Khazar origin. Khazars may not be genetically Hebrew or of the tribes but by Jewish law they are Jews if the undergo conversion or if there parents did. Many of the Khazar's can trace there conversion to Judaism back to 900 AD, which is far longer than most other groups can trace there genealogies. |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 7:00 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
israel is land for the gods
no loser allowed :p |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 7:12 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
you don't know squat. |
| anonymous
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10/28/2009 7:19 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
the Palstines are not the true palastines they are instead a group of radical squatters . they renamed thierself long ago as Palastines .. |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 7:33 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
truth |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 7:33 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
My take is that spiritual Israel is the only Israel to God..a nation of born again transformed believers in Christ Jesus. This means that physical Israel is as lost as ever. Judaic Torah literalists/Babylonians are what they are. I would not be surprised if the op turned out to be right in his premise. There were, however,many born again Palestinian Christians killed in the continuing Gaza slaughter of women and children. The "new" lost sheep of spiritual Israel could but cheer it on. (deceived as they are by their hireling leaders) |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 7:37 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
why no one care about kurds even i was atheist i care with them ?
so why they love palestine bcoz they are muslim
nobody will care to palestine if all of them was hindu or infidel :p |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 7:42 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
Actually some of them probably are of Jewish descent, just like many other arabs including Ahmedinajad from Iran. Sad that they are so hell bent on killing the Jews. |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 7:46 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
Did the Philistines settle in Canaan around 1200 BC? |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 7:50 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob. The true Jewish people of ancient times, are the modern day remnant of the present times Palestinians. A true Jew is by birth inheritance, not by conversion to the belief of the true Jews.
90% of the Israeli population are descended from White, (Greek/Russian)European converts to Jewish beliefs and practices, in the last millennium.
90% of modern day, Israeli citizens are descended from White (Greek/Russian) European heritage.
Joel 3
The Nations Judged
1 "In those days and at that time when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem,(The Palestinians)
2 I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. There I will enter into judgment against them concerning my inheritance, my people Israel(The Palestinians), for they(White, Greek/European, Russian Converts) scattered my people(The Palestinians) among the nations and divided up my land.
3 They cast lots for my people(The Palestinians) and traded boys for prostitutes; they sold girls for wine that they might drink.
4 "Now what have you against me, O Tyre and Sidon(Lebanon) and all you regions of Philistia?(Jordon) Are you repaying me for something I have done? If you are paying me back, I will swiftly and speedily return on your own heads what you have done. 5 For you took my silver and my gold and carried off my finest treasures to your temples. 6 You sold the people of Judah and Jerusalem(The Palestinians) to the Greeks(White, Greek/European Russian Jewish converts), that you might send them far from their homeland.(The ancient land of the chosen people, the Palestinians)
7 "See, I am going to rouse them(The Palestinians) out of the places to which you(The deceitful Israeli nation) sold them, and I will return on your own heads what you have done. 8 I will sell your(White Greek/European convert-Israeli citizens) sons and daughters to the people of Judah(The Palestinians, the true descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob-the true people of the land, that they never left), and they will sell them to the Sabeans(The French), a nation far away." The LORD has spoken. Quoting: Not Greek/European Converts 748364
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| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 7:50 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
the Palstines are not the true palastines they are instead a group of radical squatters . they renamed thierself long ago as Palastines .. Quoting: anonymous 804712
I guess this is why all the modern day "Jews" have white faces.
We don't have yellow skin and slanted eyes. Asia is basically the yellow race. Australia and Israel are not - we are basically the white race."
- Naftali Tamir, former Israeli ambassador to Australia
[link to www.haaretz.com]
Not only are these people delusional, they're eff'ed in the head as well. |
| cloud4strife
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10/28/2009 7:54 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
Right off the bat.
Believing that fictional characters in an action novel have descendants living anywhere is problem #1 eh?
Apology in advance for killin your thread. |
| JADR
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10/28/2009 7:54 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob. The true Jewish people of ancient times, are the modern day remnant of the present times Palestinians. A true Jew is by birth inheritance, not by conversion to the belief of the true Jews.
90% of the Israeli population are descended from White, (Greek/Russian)European converts to Jewish beliefs and practices, in the last millennium.
90% of modern day, Israeli citizens are descended from White (Greek/Russian) European heritage.
Joel 3
The Nations Judged
1 "In those days and at that time when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem,(The Palestinians)
2 I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. There I will enter into judgment against them concerning my inheritance, my people Israel(The Palestinians), for they(White, Greek/European, Russian Converts) scattered my people(The Palestinians) among the nations and divided up my land.
3 They cast lots for my people(The Palestinians) and traded boys for prostitutes; they sold girls for wine that they might drink.
4 "Now what have you against me, O Tyre and Sidon(Lebanon) and all you regions of Philistia?(Jordon) Are you repaying me for something I have done? If you are paying me back, I will swiftly and speedily return on your own heads what you have done. 5 For you took my silver and my gold and carried off my finest treasures to your temples. 6 You sold the people of Judah and Jerusalem(The Palestinians) to the Greeks(White, Greek/European Russian Jewish converts), that you might send them far from their homeland.(The ancient land of the chosen people, the Palestinians)
7 "See, I am going to rouse them(The Palestinians) out of the places to which you(The deceitful Israeli nation) sold them, and I will return on your own heads what you have done. 8 I will sell your(White Greek/European convert-Israeli citizens) sons and daughters to the people of Judah(The Palestinians, the true descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob-the true people of the land, that they never left), and they will sell them to the Sabeans(The French), a nation far away." The LORD has spoken. Quoting: Not Greek/European Converts 748364
Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine. |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 7:56 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
Many of the Khazar's can trace there conversion to Judaism back to 900 AD, which is far longer than most other groups can trace there genealogies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 781410
Conveniently... |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 7:58 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
so what original philistine language ?
did they speak arabic or aramaic ? |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 8:05 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
My take is that spiritual Israel is the only Israel to God..a nation of born again transformed believers in Christ Jesus. This means that physical Israel is as lost as ever. Judaic Torah literalists/Babylonians are what they are. I would not be surprised if the op turned out to be right in his premise. There were, however,many born again Palestinian Christians killed in the continuing Gaza slaughter of women and children. The "new" lost sheep of spiritual Israel could but cheer it on. (deceived as they are by their hireling leaders) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 804808
This is true. Redeemed Yisrael is that Apple of the Father's Eye.
They are still all over the earth and the most part hidden in the Heavens.
That Righteous Child/Nation will be born foretold of in the Torah and Prophets and the witness of the covenant Yahushua who came as a man 2000 years ago to become the Passover Lamb given for the remission of sin, that great nation will be born at the appointed time. Isaiah 66.
There are those in Israel who know and are coming to know Messiah and a revival among the Arabs and others outside of Israel. These are persecuted in Israel and elsewhere even in the whole world. Caught up in mindless divisions of people made by man. There is no one on earth who could prove they are a Jew or any other race according to the Father in Heaven and His definitions other than He calls everyone who comes into His Redeemed People His Yisrael, His Saints, His Jewels and Ornaments, His Beloved, His Washed In the Life of the Blood of the Lamb for remission of sin and great fellowship with the Father and the Son, and even His People are One with Him.
Good that more wake up that Yahuweh will not strike the earth with another curse like the one in the garden. And His People will wake up and Overcome that Beast who have gotten the number/multitude of His name and Know that Fig Tree and it's leaves that have sprouted as in the Chi Xi Stigma of that religious structure on the Temple Mount today. Four religions, the prominent shoot of the multitudes in that legion.
There are redeemed in Israel being persecuted. Many are 'divorced' from their family to receive Yahushua as their savior. Many put out of business losing their 'Kosher' licence. Many with death threats and much more. Many leaving the land to get out of that persecution. What will the deceivers say to Yahushua when they have helped bring more into that persecution while ignoring their supposed brothers and sisters in need who are being persecuted? As well in the Palestinan areas where revival is taking place a high risk of harm or death to follow Messiah in many cases but it is happening anyway regardless of the evil. The gates of Hell will not prevail against Yahushua. That anywhere there are His Righteous People!
Blessings! Fear not the revilings of man. They are eaten as a moth eats a garment and will arrive to their final destination. Where the enemy comes in like a flood, the Holy Spirit will raise up a standard against him. |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 8:18 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
Thank you OP for taking up this subject. I've been thinking about this a lot lately. To look at "being jewish" as having certain genetics rather than religious beliefs is in my humble opinion, completely insane, and a big problem. Today we look back at the history of eugenics as something bad, but when it comes to the jewish discussion, you will be called anti-semite and racist if you refuse to accept every jew as descendant of the biblical jews. It's a dangerous delusion, and both gentile and jewish scientist and historians have proved this myth wrong. |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 8:21 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
TOTAL BULLSHIT. THE PALESTINIANS OPENLY CLAIM TO BE ARABS AS AS SUCH NEED TO GO BACK TO ARABIA. They are not Jews and have no right to the land that Jehovah gave to the JEWS |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 8:25 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
Take a look at the work of Shlomo Sand among others.
[link to en.wikipedia.org] |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 8:25 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
Take a look at the work of Shlomo Sand among others.
[link to en.wikipedia.org] |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 8:26 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
Does anyone see the pattern/attributes of the beast? Maybe it has helped to be a computer programmer and understand how to sort out those things.
What is the pattern being implemented based upon their 'successful' experiment?
Religious toleration for all religions as long as you accept the 'beast'. Do not try to convert any religion to another. But in truth the harmony of creation is not converting anyone to a religion but to eternal life in the One who made everything that exists.
What things have been proven of that beast in the "experiment".
Do they now want a Homeland Police force in every nation to follow that 'image'.
Do they want to mark their cattle and keep track of them? Where is this starting and laws already passed to implement? Why are many believers leaving out of Israel?
Forced military service.
On and on... |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 8:35 AM | | Yandoobiez
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10/28/2009 8:48 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
the Palstines are not the true palastines they are instead a group of radical squatters . they renamed thierself long ago as Palastines .. Quoting: anonymous 804712
Ashkenazi...They're radical squatters, too, not the bloodline Biblical jews. |
| lambchop
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10/28/2009 9:13 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
if what you say is true than why do they follow Muslim law? why do they pray to Muhammad (sp)?
Muslims serve the same God as Jews and Christians the God of Abraham.
Muslims trace lineage to Abraham and Ishmael.
God promised the land of Israel to the descendants of Abraham, Isacc and Jacob...not Ishmael. |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 9:28 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
The origins of Israel: The Hebrews/Israelites/Jews and the land of Canaan/Israel/Palestine
The name "Israel" comes from one of the ancestors of the people known by that name. According to Genesis Jacob, the grandson of Abraham, had his name changed to 'Israel' by God. His descendants eventually became known as the people of Israel (i.e. the descendants of Israel).
Genesis says that Abraham, the grandfather of Jacob/Israel, left his homeland in Ur,
(Abraham's father, Terah, moved his family north to "Haran". This ancient city has been discovered and excavated in modern-day Turkey.Gobekli Tepe: Where Civilization Began?)
Also found in that same area of Turkey are villages that still have the names of Abraham's grandfather and great grandfather, Nahor and Serug)
a city in Mesopotamia, and traveled to Haran in the northernmost extension of the fertile crescent. He later left Haran and travelled south to the land of Canaan (which is now called Palestine).
Abraham and his descendants are presented as nomadic people. The people of the region called such wandering Arameans 'Apiru (Habiru). In the language of Abraham's descendants, this word became 'ibri, which we translate into English as 'Hebrew'. Not all of the people called 'Apiru by the Canaanites were what the Bible calls Hebrews, though.
The account in Torah continues by saying that the descendants of Jacob/Israel were eventually enslaved by the Egyptians. After several hundred years in captivity, they were delivered under the leadership of Moses. They returned to a nomadic lifestyle for about one generation, then came to occupy the land of Canaan, renaming it "Israel" ('the land of Israel'). When they had possession of the land, it became known as 'Israel' and they became known as "Israelites," so the change of name of the land from Canaan to Israel coincides with the change in the name of the people from Hebrews to Israelites.
The term Israel is ambiguous. It is sometimes used to refer to the people (the nation), sometimes to the place where the twelve tribes of Israel lived (the land of Israel) and later to the northern part of that land, where 10 of the original 12 tribes lived after the nation split in 922 BCE. After that split, the area occupied by the two southern tribes was called 'Judah' (after the tribe of Judah), and the people who lived there are sometimes called Judeans and sometimes Judahites.
In 721/722 BCE the northern kingdom (which was still called 'Israel') was defeated by the Assyrians. The leading citizens were carried off into captivity, and the northern kingdom (Israel) was never reestablished. After this time the term Israel is sometimes used to refer to the occupants of the southern kingdom (Judah), further confusing the terminology.
In 587 BCE the Babylonians conquered the southern kingdom, Judea, and took its leading citizens off into captivity. A little over one generation later, when the Persians conquered the Babylonians, the people of Judea were allowed to return home. Over time they came to be called 'Jews', a shortened form of 'Judeans'.
When the Romans conquered the region shortly before the time of Jesus, they took the name, 'Philistia' (which had earlier applied only to the southwestern coastal plain occupied by the Philistines), and applied it to the entire region , including the land occupied by the Jews and their neighbors. It is from this word, 'Philistia,' that we get our modern English name 'Palestine.'
[link to www.greek-language.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 9:36 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
Jacob became Yah'Isha'El. The one in covenant to Yahuweh Elohim as in Yahuweh Yahushua the Word of Yahuweh.
The covenant equated to a Husband and Wife in marriage.
A binding covenant.
The Redeemed called the bride of the Messiah is the Righteous Nation that will be born, not of Flesh and Blood but of Spirit and Truth.
That leading to the battle of Har Meggido when the Nations fight the "Aliens" who have come down from Heaven upon the Mount of Olives. Zech 14.
Yah = Yahuweh
Isha = Woman (Wife)
El = Elohim (Yahuweh, Yahushua, Yah'Isha'El)
Redeemed Y'isha'el, together as One with the Father and the Son given for remission of sin. |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 10:50 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 788421 |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 11:02 AM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
"Syria and Palestine are one nation"
Just found this old New York Times article from August 31, 1921:
[link to 2.bp.blogspot.com]
Isn't it funny that the Palestinian Arabs didn't want an independent state but wanted to be part of Greater Syria?
Posted by Elder of Ziyon |
| Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 5:13 PM | | Re: The Palestinians, the original people of the land, are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, The true Jewish people of ancient times | Quote |
if what you say is true than why do they follow Muslim law? why do they pray to Muhammad (sp)?
Muslims serve the same God as Jews and Christians the God of Abraham.
Muslims trace lineage to Abraham and Ishmael.
God promised the land of Israel to the descendants of Abraham, Isacc and Jacob...not Ishmael. Quoting: lambchop 802506
This is about Untrue as it gets:
"Muslims serve the same God as Jews and Christians the God of Abraham". |
| Lotus Feet 
The Paraclete, Interpreter of the law
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10/28/2009 5:29 PM
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so what original philistine language ?
did they speak arabic or aramaic ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 795054
The original philistines were the sea people who invaded Israel and Egypt. Remember David and Goliath and who won? David with the hand of God.
Lotus
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