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mathetes
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10/28/2009 5:18 PM

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PC will be the death of us all


Parents banned from watching their children in playgrounds... in case they are paedophiles

Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they have not been vetted by police.

Mothers and fathers are being forced to watch their children from outside perimeter fences because of fears they could be paedophiles.

Watford Council was branded a 'disgrace' yesterday after excluding parents from two fenced-off adventure playgrounds unless they first undergo criminal record checks.
Enlarge Jenny Abbasi, 41, with her children Aliyah, six, Tameena, five months, and Kareem, two outside Harwoods Adventure Playground in Watford

The local council has told parents that they are no longer welcome at two play areas because they have not been vetted by police

Children as young as five will instead be supervised by council 'play rangers' who have been cleared by the Criminal Records Bureau.

Councillors insist they are merely following Government regulations and cannot allow adults to walk around playgrounds 'unchecked'.

But furious parents attacked the move and threatened to boycott the playgrounds.

Concerns were raised last night that other councils around the country are adopting similar policies amid confusion over Government rules and increasing hysteria over child protection.

It comes amid an escalating row over the Government's new anti-paedophile database, which will contain the names of more than 11million adults cleared to work with children and vulnerable adults.


Mother-of-five Marcella Bergin, 35, from Watford, who has been visiting the play areas for many years, said: 'It's like they are branding all parents potential paedophiles, which is disgraceful.

'Ninety-nine per cent of people are great parents and certainly not child abusers.'

Mother-of-eight Jenny Abbasi, 41, whose children also use the playgrounds, said the new rules were 'a disgrace'.

Miss Abbasi, from Garston, Hertfordshire, said: 'I have been using the playgrounds for 18 years and it's a sad day when parents cannot be involved with the enjoyment of their children.'

The rules were imposed at Harwoods and Harebreaks adventure recreation grounds from this week.

Activities on the half-acre sites include a skateboard half-pipe, a zip line and rope swings.

Play rangers patrol both parks - which are for children aged five to 15 - and are fully qualified with CRB checks.

Parents already have to 'register' their child on arrival so staff have their contact details in the event of an accident. But now only those who have been selected for CRB vetting by the council can enter the sites.

Mayor Dorothy Thornhill argued the council was merely enforcing government policy at the play areas.

'Sadly, in today's climate, you can't have adults walking around unchecked in a children's playground and the adventure playground is not a meeting place for adults,' she said.

But the Tories claimed the row showed the Government's ' heavy- handed' approach to safeguarding was 'completely out of control'.

Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 805157
10/28/2009 5:20 PM
Re: Just another example of the Suicide of reason..Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they haveQuote

Common sense is not Politically Correct.

AJ right again!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 412938
10/28/2009 5:22 PM
Re: Just another example of the Suicide of reason..Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they haveQuote

PC will be the death of us all


Parents banned from watching their children in playgrounds... in case they are paedophiles

Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they have not been vetted by police.

Mothers and fathers are being forced to watch their children from outside perimeter fences because of fears they could be paedophiles.

Watford Council was branded a 'disgrace' yesterday after excluding parents from two fenced-off adventure playgrounds unless they first undergo criminal record checks.
Enlarge Jenny Abbasi, 41, with her children Aliyah, six, Tameena, five months, and Kareem, two outside Harwoods Adventure Playground in Watford

The local council has told parents that they are no longer welcome at two play areas because they have not been vetted by police

Children as young as five will instead be supervised by council 'play rangers' who have been cleared by the Criminal Records Bureau.

Councillors insist they are merely following Government regulations and cannot allow adults to walk around playgrounds 'unchecked'.

But furious parents attacked the move and threatened to boycott the playgrounds.

Concerns were raised last night that other councils around the country are adopting similar policies amid confusion over Government rules and increasing hysteria over child protection.

It comes amid an escalating row over the Government's new anti-paedophile database, which will contain the names of more than 11million adults cleared to work with children and vulnerable adults.


Mother-of-five Marcella Bergin, 35, from Watford, who has been visiting the play areas for many years, said: 'It's like they are branding all parents potential paedophiles, which is disgraceful.

'Ninety-nine per cent of people are great parents and certainly not child abusers.'

Mother-of-eight Jenny Abbasi, 41, whose children also use the playgrounds, said the new rules were 'a disgrace'.

Miss Abbasi, from Garston, Hertfordshire, said: 'I have been using the playgrounds for 18 years and it's a sad day when parents cannot be involved with the enjoyment of their children.'

The rules were imposed at Harwoods and Harebreaks adventure recreation grounds from this week.

Activities on the half-acre sites include a skateboard half-pipe, a zip line and rope swings.

Play rangers patrol both parks - which are for children aged five to 15 - and are fully qualified with CRB checks.

Parents already have to 'register' their child on arrival so staff have their contact details in the event of an accident. But now only those who have been selected for CRB vetting by the council can enter the sites.

Mayor Dorothy Thornhill argued the council was merely enforcing government policy at the play areas.

'Sadly, in today's climate, you can't have adults walking around unchecked in a children's playground and the adventure playground is not a meeting place for adults,' she said.

But the Tories claimed the row showed the Government's ' heavy- handed' approach to safeguarding was 'completely out of control'.

Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
 Quoting: mathetes

Fuck that. I won;t be bringing my kids to any damned playground to be supervised by some asshat liberal play ranger.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 805072
10/28/2009 5:23 PM
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Council "rump rangers", more like.

Just wait until one of these "rangers"molests a kid!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 805163
10/28/2009 5:27 PM
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Play Ranger, That sounds so cute. Do they have a little star shield and cap-gun?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 805119
10/28/2009 5:28 PM
Re: Just another example of the Suicide of reason..Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they haveQuote

what a sad day when we will not be allowed to push our children on a swing .
ANNONYMOUS
User ID: 661006
10/28/2009 5:33 PM
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5a

Yep, the cuckoos are in control of the nest!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 805163
10/28/2009 5:41 PM
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what a sad day when we will not be allowed to push our children on a swing .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 805119

Step aside lady only I, Play Ranger, may push the butt of your young one on this swing. Do you want me to lose my job?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 526297
10/28/2009 5:46 PM
Re: Just another example of the Suicide of reason..Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they haveQuote

putin
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 789658
10/28/2009 5:49 PM
Re: Just another example of the Suicide of reason..Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they haveQuote

what a sad day when we will not be allowed to push our children on a swing .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 805119


This response makes me angrier than the original article.
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Strawberry Girl
User ID: 725691
10/28/2009 5:51 PM
Re: Just another example of the Suicide of reason..Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they haveQuote

Well....even fully qualified, who's to say these park rangers aren't pedophiles? And how would the parents know since they can't watch?

And I wonder how many kids just get dumped there like it's a free daycare too...?
So now I know what I have to do. I have to keep breathing. And tomorrow the sun will rise, and who knows what the tide will bring in.

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 792499
10/28/2009 5:51 PM
Re: Just another example of the Suicide of reason..Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they haveQuote

Human race is going bat shit crazy I tellzya
Enaid Subscriber
User ID: 515273
10/28/2009 5:52 PM
Re: Just another example of the Suicide of reason..Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they haveQuote

Stupidity.
Justmebeingme Subscriber
User ID: 804790
10/28/2009 5:56 PM
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Are they friggin kidding me..... do they think I would leave my kids alone to be supervised by people I don't know in a Park!.... Oh Gordon and his lot can kiss my Ass.......

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mathetes
User ID: 793782
10/28/2009 5:57 PM
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Are they friggin kidding me..... do they think I would leave my kids alone to be supervised by people I don't know in a Park!.... Oh Gordon and his lot can kiss my Ass.......

Thank You OP hf peace
 Quoting: Justmebeingme

Just when I think all is lost,someone with some common sense sounds off


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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17061
10/28/2009 6:09 PM
Re: Just another example of the Suicide of reason..Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they haveQuote

These stupid laws only exist because people continue to follow them.
NightWisp Subscriber
User ID: 754288
10/28/2009 6:10 PM
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 526155
10/28/2009 6:11 PM
Re: Just another example of the Suicide of reason..Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they haveQuote


Children as young as five will instead be supervised by council 'play rangers' who have been cleared by the Criminal Records Bureau.
 Quoting: mathetes



PROOF THAT PEDOS RUN THE SYSTEM AND ARE IMPLEMENTING LAWS TO MAKE IT EASY ACCESS FOR THEM AND CRIMINALIZATION FOR YOU.




burnit shark pennywise
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 526155
10/28/2009 6:12 PM
Re: Just another example of the Suicide of reason..Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they haveQuote

Human race is going bat shit crazy I tellzya
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 792499



BEING DRIVEN. pennywise sheeplebah
mr...bojangles
User ID: 805000
10/28/2009 6:12 PM
Re: Just another example of the Suicide of reason..Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they haveQuote

Reagan was a pedophile.....
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the thread killer
User ID: 804798
10/28/2009 6:21 PM
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ffs!

soon you will be charged with child abuse as you give birth.
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Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2009 6:23 PM
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Just more proof of the plan to completely remove children from the influence of parents.

I just watched a segment on the Today show here in Oz, they're now trying to implement shouting at your kids as being as dangerous to the child as smacking them. Won't be too long before it becomes illegal, and you will have your children removed from your custody if you so much as raise your voice to them.

I'm telling ya parents, you better start standing up for your rights as your child's guardian or they'll ALL be taken away from you soon.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 784308
10/28/2009 6:24 PM
Re: Just another example of the Suicide of reason..Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they haveQuote

Council "rump rangers", more like.

Just wait until one of these "rangers"molests a kid!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 805072


exactly
awthrawthr Subscriber
User ID: 804392
10/28/2009 6:25 PM
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Hmm. That's the UK. Do they allow silly walks?
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 784308
10/28/2009 6:25 PM
Re: Just another example of the Suicide of reason..Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they haveQuote

Just more proof of the plan to completely remove children from the influence of parents.

I just watched a segment on the Today show here in Oz, they're now trying to implement shouting at your kids as being as dangerous to the child as smacking them. Won't be too long before it becomes illegal, and you will have your children removed from your custody if you so much as raise your voice to them.

I'm telling ya parents, you better start standing up for your rights as your child's guardian or they'll ALL be taken away from you soon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 805196


Amazing, what about hurtful looks - I guess that will come in as well.
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the thread killer
User ID: 804798
10/28/2009 6:26 PM
Re: Just another example of the Suicide of reason..Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they haveQuote

Hmm. That's the UK. Do they allow silly walks?
 Quoting: awthrawthr



nope.

health and safety
We the people
Are so fucking tired
Of all the corruption
And lies
This is Critical Mass
This is a system crash
Here and now
We'll rip and tear it down
And start over again
Cause we got nothing
To lose
And we got nothing
But time
Cause the spirit
Never dies
And we know about the lies
And they playin both sides
ANd they conquer
And divide
And we decided
That we want it to end ~ Hed PE
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 613731
10/28/2009 6:26 PM
Re: Just another example of the Suicide of reason..Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they haveQuote

Brits, you gotta fight back, and also send Labour packing!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 801781
10/28/2009 6:27 PM
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the reach this gov has is sickening
soon you will need clearance to even have a child
of course that's after you get your intercourse license cleared by the Criminal Records Bureau.

WAKE UP and smell the slavery
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 784308
10/28/2009 6:27 PM
Re: Just another example of the Suicide of reason..Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they haveQuote

Well....even fully qualified, who's to say these park rangers aren't pedophiles? And how would the parents know since they can't watch?

And I wonder how many kids just get dumped there like it's a free daycare too...?
 Quoting: Only Me


I wondered the same thing. If you aren''t allowed to go inside and play with your kids - why not go out and have a coffee or do some shopping.
koder
User ID: 538337
10/28/2009 6:28 PM
Re: Just another example of the Suicide of reason..Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they haveQuote

Solution - hang a few "Play rangers" and "Councilpersons"

Got to start somwhere
THE FIRST HORSEMAN
User ID: 707278
10/28/2009 6:35 PM
Re: Just another example of the Suicide of reason..Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they haveQuote

PC will be the death of us all


Parents banned from watching their children in playgrounds... in case they are paedophiles

Parents are being banned from playing with their children in council recreation areas because they have not been vetted by police.

Mothers and fathers are being forced to watch their children from outside perimeter fences because of fears they could be paedophiles.

Watford Council was branded a 'disgrace' yesterday after excluding parents from two fenced-off adventure playgrounds unless they first undergo criminal record checks.
Enlarge Jenny Abbasi, 41, with her children Aliyah, six, Tameena, five months, and Kareem, two outside Harwoods Adventure Playground in Watford

The local council has told parents that they are no longer welcome at two play areas because they have not been vetted by police

Children as young as five will instead be supervised by council 'play rangers' who have been cleared by the Criminal Records Bureau.

Councillors insist they are merely following Government regulations and cannot allow adults to walk around playgrounds 'unchecked'.


a spectre is haunting europe , that spectre is liberilism !!

But furious parents attacked the move and threatened to boycott the playgrounds.

Concerns were raised last night that other councils around the country are adopting similar policies amid confusion over Government rules and increasing hysteria over child protection.

It comes amid an escalating row over the Government's new anti-paedophile database, which will contain the names of more than 11million adults cleared to work with children and vulnerable adults.


Mother-of-five Marcella Bergin, 35, from Watford, who has been visiting the play areas for many years, said: 'It's like they are branding all parents potential paedophiles, which is disgraceful.

'Ninety-nine per cent of people are great parents and certainly not child abusers.'

Mother-of-eight Jenny Abbasi, 41, whose children also use the playgrounds, said the new rules were 'a disgrace'.

Miss Abbasi, from Garston, Hertfordshire, said: 'I have been using the playgrounds for 18 years and it's a sad day when parents cannot be involved with the enjoyment of their children.'

The rules were imposed at Harwoods and Harebreaks adventure recreation grounds from this week.

Activities on the half-acre sites include a skateboard half-pipe, a zip line and rope swings.

Play rangers patrol both parks - which are for children aged five to 15 - and are fully qualified with CRB checks.

Parents already have to 'register' their child on arrival so staff have their contact details in the event of an accident. But now only those who have been selected for CRB vetting by the council can enter the sites.

Mayor Dorothy Thornhill argued the council was merely enforcing government policy at the play areas.

'Sadly, in today's climate, you can't have adults walking around unchecked in a children's playground and the adventure playground is not a meeting place for adults,' she said.

But the Tories claimed the row showed the Government's ' heavy- handed' approach to safeguarding was 'completely out of control'.

Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
 Quoting: mathetes
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