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BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers.
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Anonymous Coward
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10/30/2009 9:16 AM
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The province's Special Investigations Unit and its director Ian Scott are charging more cops across the province to "fulfil a political agenda," Toronto's police union boss charges.
An attempt to make it look like the SIU is tougher on cops after the provincial ombudsman called it a "toothless tiger" may have resulted in some officers being wrongly charged, Mike McCormack and union lawyer Peter Brauti argue.
McCormack, who was elected to lead the 8,300-member Toronto Police Association earlier this month, told the Sun yesterday that the union is now taking the "unprecedented step" of independently reviewing all cases of Toronto Police officers who have been charged in 2009.
After reviewing those cases, they'll decide if they want to investigate others.
The union's criticism of the SIU comes in a year that has so far seen six Toronto officers charged by the police watchdog compared to none last year.
"There's an appearance that our members, based on the information that we have right now, that they're being charged to fulfil a political agenda of the director, Ian Scott," McCormack said.
"We're concerned right now with the overcharging -- that there are already some officers wrongfully charged," Brauti said.
SIU spokesman Monica Hudon said SIU investigations are motivated only by evidence.
"With respect to the higher number of charges, the Special Investigations Unit approaches each investigation with objectivity and without a bias of criminality," Hudon said.
According to the SIU data cited by Hudon, no Toronto officers were charged in 2008, while two (one a former Toronto Police officer) were charged in 2007. No Toronto cops were charged by the SIU in 2006. One was charged in 2005 and one in 2004.
So far in 2009, 13 officers across the province have been charged by the SIU. That's compared to three in 2008, six in 2007, two in 2006, three in 2005 and three in 2004.
Scott, a former Crown and defence lawyer, took over in October 2008 from outgoing SIU director James Cornish, who had served since 2004.
Scott wasn't available to comment yesterday.
The cop union leaders believe Scott is trying to make the SIU look like it is cracking down after Ombudsman Andre Marin's September 2008 report raised questions of whether the SIU was too lenient on police.
"We believe the political agenda is to justify his leadership of the SIU and we also feel it's a knee-jerk reaction to the Marin report," McCormack said.
McCormack and Brauti refused to say which specific cases were fuelling their claims, saying they are before the courts.
The six Toronto officers charged by the SIU so far in 2009 include:
* Const. Allan Racette was charged with assault after a suspected car thief was allegedly injured during his arrest.
* Consts. Edward Ing and John Cruz were each slapped with a charge of assault causing bodily harm after Gerrard St. resident Richard Moore was hospitalized after an altercation with police.
* Const. Boris Petkovic was charged with aggravated assault and discharging a firearm with intent in connection with an incident involving Toronto man Phabien Rhodius. The SIU alleges that Petkovic fired his gun twice at Rhodius, who was injured as a result. He later turned himself into police and when released from custody, contacted the SIU.
* Const. Ricardo Gomez was charged after a police chase that sent three people to hospital.
* Const. Jason Goss was charged after a 30-year-old man was allegedly injured during an arrest at Bloor St. W. and St. Clarens Ave.
The SIU, a civilian law enforcement agency that reports to the attorney general, investigates cases involving police that have resulted in serious injury, sexual assault or death.
McCormack accused the SIU of laying charges against officers when there has been no civilian injury and no possibility of criminal wrongdoing.
He also said officers have had their charter rights violated, personal property seized without warrants, and investigators have entered homes without a search warrant or consent.
"We're concerned about the erosion of officers' rights because if you go from a starting point that an SIU investigation is a criminal investigation, then there's no reason why those officers involved in those investigations deserve any less rights than anyone else," Brauti said.
Both the Toronto Police Association and the Ontario Provincial Police Association said they respect the role of the SIU, although McCormack said Toronto cops are feeling "mistrust" and "frustration" toward the organization. |
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Anonymous Coward
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10/30/2009 9:31 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
They think they're above the law. They always obstruct justice to protect corrupt cops. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 698027
10/30/2009 9:56 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
Ha, They (cops) can dish it out but cannot take it...
They need more (Serpicos) in all the forces here, their gangs are to big and out of control.
Look up OPP vs Dudley George regarding Ipperwash.
100+ cops whiskey and snipers. |
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Anonymous Coward
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10/30/2009 10:08 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
McCormack is the biggest scumbag in Toronto, if Serpico was in town, he'd be in jail. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 806433
10/30/2009 10:28 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
Const. Mike McCormack was convicted of illegally searching police databases early last year for information about a former newspaper reporter.
Toronto Police Supt. Jane Wilcox ruled that McCormack -- a former executive member of the Toronto Police Association and middle son of retired chief Bill McCormack -- had no official reason to seek information about ex-Toronto Star reporter John Duncanson.
He had conducted the searches for "personal reasons," she said in her decision.
Future sentencing could range from losing 24-hours pay to dismissal.
McCormack was cleared of all previous police act corruption charges but cleared does not mean he was not guilty.
Cleared means that his independent, private investigators obstructed justice and got away with it. |
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Anonymous Coward
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10/30/2009 10:45 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
John Duncanson stood out. He was fearless, gritty and hungry to break important stories that landed him on the Star's front pages and earned him prestigious journalism awards.
He died in his sleep at 43 years of age.
I think McCormack has HIS blood on his hands. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 806433
10/30/2009 10:59 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
John Duncanson stood out. He was fearless, gritty and hungry to break important stories that landed him on the Star's front pages and earned him prestigious journalism awards.
He died in his sleep at 43 years of age.
I think McCormack has HIS blood on his hands. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 783337
Sounds like somebody does not believe in freedom of the press. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 641095
10/30/2009 11:24 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
John Duncanson stood out. He was fearless, gritty and hungry to break important stories that landed him on the Star's front pages and earned him prestigious journalism awards.
He died in his sleep at 43 years of age.
I think McCormack has HIS blood on his hands. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 783337
Did he do it himself or was it one of the private investigators he uses? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 806433
10/30/2009 1:00 PM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
John Duncanson stood out. He was fearless, gritty and hungry to break important stories that landed him on the Star's front pages and earned him prestigious journalism awards.
He died in his sleep at 43 years of age.
I think McCormack has HIS blood on his hands.
Did he do it himself or was it one of the private investigators he uses? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 641095
John Duncanson was another Dorothy Kilgallen -these gritty reporters are always labelled drunks to justify their murders so McCormack probably used about thirty private investigators to smother him -he's way too much of a coward to act on his own.
And then of course, Dunkanson was dismissed as anothter useless, Dorothy Kilgallen style drunk.
The fact is, McCormack is the one who is absolutely useless. |
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Anonymous Coward
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10/30/2009 1:23 PM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
"John was the epitome of a superb police reporter," said former Star publisher John Honderich, who remembered the boyish grin that spread across Duncanson's face when he spoke about the latest scoop he had unearthed. "It's sad that it ended this way. He had so much more in him."
Duncanson worked on a number of major stories, including the Paul Bernardo case, corruption within the Toronto Police Service and the paper's 2002 series on race, crime and policing, which won a National Newspaper Award (NNA) and the Governor General's Michener Award for public service journalism.
Duncanson "was offended by people who abused power and wasn't afraid to go after stories that might make him unpopular," while reporter Joe Hall called him the "best police reporter in the country in his day."
Quite a contrast to McCormack, who hires private investigators to cover up police corruption. |
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Anonymous Coward
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10/30/2009 1:27 PM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
By the way, McCormack has a history of threatening people like Duncanson -he always claims that he will get even with all his critics at his own time and place.
Looks like he got even.
Do thugs like Mccormack have the character that is necessary to lead the police? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 806433
10/30/2009 2:43 PM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
How do thugs like that make it to the top. |
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Anonymous Coward
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10/30/2009 2:44 PM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
Good question. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 806433
10/30/2009 2:57 PM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
Good question. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 285673
I did a little google search and found the answer.
Out of 3500 union members, 2400 of them voted AGAINST him ! They didn't even want him in as the president. The only reason he got in was because of a split vote between Rondi & George. Had it been between Mike & George, he would have lost by a tonne. If members want a corrupt cop for president - they sure got it now.
That's what they were saying on other boards about his win.
But do they know how corrupt he really is?
Muzzling newsmen?
How does he expect to get along with anybody? |
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Chrome-Light 62
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10/30/2009 3:01 PM
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I've lived in toronto 37 years before I got out and moved north and I've had enough negative run-ins with toronto cops to know that a good % of them wear their badge & guns to cover up the fact that they have very tiny penises.
Why do men with small penises always gravitate toward law enforcement? There should be a mandatory penis size requirement for everyone attempting to become a police officer.
I've also met more than a few cops that were female in Toronto during those years and always found them level headed and courteous.
SPS (small penis syndrome) should seriously be given a grant for farther scientific study.
See a cop that wants to prove to you he's more of a man than you?
SPS!
Karma's my biatch' |
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Anonymous Coward
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10/30/2009 7:55 PM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
Sounds like McCormack. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 806433
10/30/2009 7:55 PM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
Sounds like McCormack. |
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Anonymous Coward
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10/30/2009 9:58 PM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
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10/31/2009 10:54 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
By the way, McCormack has a history of threatening people like Duncanson -he always claims that he will get even with all his critics at his own time and place.
Looks like he got even.
Do thugs like Mccormack have the character that is necessary to lead the police? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 806433
I think he'll probably end up in prison.
With one murder under his belt, people are going to start to take a real close look at him and all his associates. I'm willing to bet that they are already under surveillance by the RCMP. |
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Anonymous Coward
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10/31/2009 11:06 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
That's called obstruction. Judges will hand them their asses over that. |
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Anonymous Coward
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10/31/2009 11:11 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
Colleague Betsy Powell recalled how Duncanson "was offended by people who abused power and wasn't afraid to go after stories that might make him unpopular," while reporter Joe Hall called him the "best police reporter in the country in his day."
Creeps like McCormack target and destroy people like Duncanson because they are intelligent enough to expose corruption.
Duncanson was a young man who was on the road to recovery, and that made McCormack piss his pants. |
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Rocket Man
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10/31/2009 11:14 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
They think they're above the law. They always obstruct justice to protect corrupt cops. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 806433
Yes.
we are many |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 807215
10/31/2009 11:18 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
Many what, murderors? |
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Anonymous Coward
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10/31/2009 11:29 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
They think they're above the law. They always obstruct justice to protect corrupt cops.
Yes. Quoting: Rocket Man
Hey Rocketman, are you saying that there are many murderers like McCormack or many decent people who refuse to tolerate corruption? |
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Anonymous Coward
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10/31/2009 12:53 PM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
Maybe he's one of McCormack's thugs. |
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Anonymous Coward
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10/31/2009 1:15 PM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
These are the kind of stories that reporters like John Duncanson write:
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Tough Guy, Mike McCormack threatens critics after police tribunal throws a party in his honour.
Needless to say, the cowards who are responsible are as tough as Bill McCormack is. The Mounties exposed corruption on his part, and he is now suing for 5.9 million, exploiting the fact that instead of investigating credible charges, the police tribunal that cleared him decided to throw a party in his honour.
And what about those people who think that McCormack is corrupt? Bill will deal with them, but not now. He will deal with them at a time and a place of his own choosing. In his own words: "Some people chose to exploit the situation and that's something I'll deal with at a latter date."
According to his corrupt lawyer, Peter Brauti, who likes to protect criminals by delaying appearances to land the hand-picked Judge he feels he can manipulate, Bill McCormack is "the toughest guy" he has ever met.
Peter Brauti must think he is pretty tough as well. He used to prosecute criminals, now, he defends them. He must feel pretty tough hanging out with the likes of tough guys like Bill McCormack. He must feel invincible.
This is how the system works, in the world of Bill McCormack. Peter Brauti uses all his high priced private eyes to manufacture evidence to clear a corrupt client, and he simultaneosly sustains a 5.9 million dollar frivolous law suit to fimance the entire, sleazy operation.
High priced PI's are in the business of blackmailing politicians, judges and prosecutors, and with clients like Bill Macormack, they are very busy.
Because of their handiworm, corruption charges are dropped without adequate explanation.
In fact, an internal Toronto Police corruption charge and a demand for union director Mike McCormack's job was ropped in a "tentative deal" reached after a review of "new evidence."
Toronto Police Service prosecutions head Staff-Insp, George Cowley confirmed that a tentative resolution had been reached that will see McCormack appear before an internal tribunal on a single charge of discreditable conduct.
The corruption charge and two lesser counts were dropped.
"We're no longer seeking termination," Cowley said after McCormack appeared briefly at an internal hearing.
"There has been a reassessment of the facts and the strength of the case and possible defences that could be put forward and dismissal ... has been taken off the table," Cowley said.
McCormack's lawyer, Peter Brauti, said the deal was reached after he gave prosecutors "additional evidence" he would normally hold back.
Brauti said he trusted Cowley and the current brass would "do the responsible thing ... and it appears they did," he said.
The charges against McCormack, 43, a son of former Toronto Police Chief Bill McCormack Sr., were laid after McCormack appeared as a subpoenaed witness for Jeff Geller at an auto dealer licence appeal hearing. McCormack's wife, Elizabeth Martin, was listed as a director of Geller's car leasing company.
Geller, who had a minor criminal record and drug abuse issues, died in hospital in 2004.
Transcripts from the auto licence hearing show McCormack testified that Geller was a "very honest, trustworthy" and productive person as long as he stayed away from drugs. McCormack suggested Geller should undergo random drug testing as a condition of getting his sales licence.
Another city cop, Rob Correa, 40, was the president of Geller's leasing company. His case is also under review.
Both McCormack and Correa have said they were only trying to help Geller get back on his feet and did nothing wrong.
Brauti said McCormack will now go before a "hearing of sorts" at which a yet-to-be-named hearings officer will determine guilt or innocence based on an agreed statement of facts and character witness evidence on McCormack's behalf.
Isn't that a sweat deal. Bill McCormack uses private investigators to dictate the fact that he is not corrupt. Try not to laugh. |
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Anonymous Coward
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10/31/2009 1:17 PM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
Nobody will post, no-one will testify. Witnesses fled the country.
Toronto Police are like skynet. |
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Anonymous Coward
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10/31/2009 1:44 PM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
Some flee and some get murdered.
Nice system, huh? |
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Anonymous Coward
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10/31/2009 1:48 PM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
Geller, who had a minor criminal record and drug abuse issues, died in hospital in 2004.
McCormack was probably guarding the door. |
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Anonymous Coward
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10/31/2009 2:31 PM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
A corrupt, murderous thug is suing the police for 5.9 million dollars |
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Anonymous Coward
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10/31/2009 2:37 PM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS: Toronto Police Union hires Private Investigators to interfere with investigation against Corrupt Police Officers. | Quote |
everything his corrupt to the bone
Mafia probe to be handled by Quebec: federal minister
Last Updated: Friday, October 23, 2009 | 10:25 PM ET ComThe Canadian Press
Justice Minister Rob Nicholson insists the federal government will not get involved in Quebec's investigation into Mafia corruption in the construction industry.
Nicholson said he's confident the $26.8-million police investigation called by Premier Jean Charest is "an appropriate way" to handle the issue, even if provincial politicians are implicated in the scandal.
The minister said the administration of justice is primarily a provincial responsibility.
He did not address the possibility that federal infrastructure money may be involved in the scandal, in which 14 Montreal-area firms are alleged to be involved in a price-fixing scheme tied to public-works projects.
A retired Quebec bureaucrat-turned-whistleblower said outside firms would be shut out while participating companies would alternately set the bid price on contracts and the others would then submit higher bids.
Organized crime experts have said the practice exists elsewhere in Canada, but is particularly worrisome now that Ottawa and the provinces are embarking on the most expensive infrastructure program in Canadian history. |
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