**READ LATEST VERSION HEALTH CARE BILL HERE**

OK, I just received this in an email but it is without attribution so we will just have to verify for ourselves.


This is what they say they have found in the bill so far:



I share this with all of you with concern, a reason and time for us to stand up and let our Representatives of the House and Congress know that we can not let this bill to pass. I am in favor of a better health system that can take care of our "Citizens" including the needy and elderly. Listed below are bullet points from the first 500 pages of the proposed bill they are trying to slam thru. This is not what America - The Land Of The Free stands for. My note is not political in favor of a particular party but for the well being of the Citizens of the United States of America.

Please do not sit back and assume you do not have a voice. Take action, do something, or we will all pay and feel the negative effects for years to come.

Contact your Representatives and let them know how you feel about this. We, as a country, cannot afford another 1000 page bill to go through congress without being read. Another 500 pages to go. I have highlighted a few of the items that are down right unconstitutional.

Page 22: Mandates audits of all employers that self-insure!
Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed!
Page 30: A government committee will decide what treatments and benefits you get (and, unlike an insurer, there will be no appeals process)
Page 42: The "Health Choices Commissioner" will decide health benefits for you. You will have no choice. None.
Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services.
Page 58: Every person will be issued a National ID Healthcard.
Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.
Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize all union retiree and community organizer health plans (read: SEIU, UAW and ACORN)
Page 72: All private healthcare plans must conform to government rules to participate in a Healthcare Exchange.
Page 84: All private healthcare plans must participate in the Healthcare Exchange (i.e., total government control of private plans)
Page 91: Government mandates linguistic infrastructure for services; translation: illegal aliens.

Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan.
Page 102: Those eligible for Medicaid will be automatically enrolled: you have no choice in the matter.
Page 124: No company can sue the government for price-fixing. No "judicial review" is permitted against the government monopoly. Put simply, private insurers will be crushed.
Page 127: The AMA sold doctors out: the government will set wages.
Page 145: An employer MUST auto-enroll employees into the government-run public plan. No alternatives.
Page 126: Employers MUST pay healthcare bills for part-time employees AND their families.
Page 149: Any employer with a payroll of $400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll
Page 150: Any employer with a payroll of $250K-400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays a 2 to 6% tax on payroll
Page 167: Any individual who doesn't' have acceptable healthcare (according to the government) will be taxed 2.5% of income.
Page 170: Any NON-RESIDENT alien is exempt from individual taxes (Americans will pay for them).
Page 195: Officers and employees of Government Healthcare Bureaucracy will have access to ALL American financial and personal records.
Page 203: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax." Yes, it really says that.

Page 239: Bill will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors and the poor most affected."
Page 241: Doctors: no matter what specialty you have, you'll all be paid the same (thanks, AMA!)
Page 253: Government sets value of doctors' time, their professional judgment, etc.
Page 265: Government mandates and controls productivity for private healthcare industries.
Page 268: Government regulates rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs.
Page 272: Cancer patients: welcome to the wonderful world of rationing!
Page 280: Hospitals will be penalized for what the government deems preventable re-admissions.
Page 298: Doctors: if you treat a patient during an initial admission that results in a readmission, you will be penalized by the government.
Page 317: Doctors: you are now prohibited for owning and investing in healthcare companies!
Page 318: Prohibition on hospital expansion. Hospitals cannot expand without government approval.
Page 321: Hospital expansion hinges on "community" input: in other words, yet another payoff for ACORN.
Page 335: Government mandates establishment of outcome-based measures: i.e., rationing.
Page 341: Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans, HMOs, etc.
Page 354: Government will restrict enrollment of SPECIAL NEEDS individuals.
Page 379: More bureaucracy: Telehealth Advisory Committee (healthcare by phone).
Page 425: More bureaucracy: Advance Care Planning Consult: Senior Citizens, assisted suicide, euthanasia?
Page 425: Government will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. Mandatory. Appears to lock in estate taxes ahead of time.
Page 425: Government provides approved list of end-of-life resources, guiding you in death.
Page 427: Government mandates program that orders end-of-life treatment; government dictates how your life ends.
Page 429: Advance Care Planning Consult will be used to dictate treatment as patient's health deteriorates. This can include an ORDER for end-of-life plans. An ORDER from the GOVERNMENT.
Page 430: Government will decide what level of treatments you may have at end-of-life.
Page 469: Community-based Home Medical Services: more payoffs for ACORN.
Page 472: Payments to Community-based organizations: more payoffs for ACORN.
Page 489: Government will cover marriage and family therapy. Government intervenes in your marriage.
Page 494: Government will cover mental health services: defining, creating and rationing those services.

I don't know about you

but I am sick over this.

I wouldn't go to DC when Obama needs a false flag attack on U.S. soil for an excuse to invade Iran. Wouldn't it be convenient for him to eliminate the 2 other branches of the government along with all the right wing conservatives opposing him all at once?

Remember, Remember, the 5th of November:

They lost me at aliens will be covered ....sorry. I read on the bill in BIG BOLD wording illegals are not covered... This kind of shit is what makes us look like idiots! The fucking bill is bad enough all on it's own without the lies. I think they are being sent out by the left to piss people off and make the mis- quote the bill thus making anything they say null!

Seems to me that the shills here have an agenda to keep the population ignorant slaves or kill them with diseases.

in any case, looks like they want to keep the doctors to themselves and not share with 'negros' 'welfare cases' and 'immigrants'

selfish bastards. i hope u stay off the roads, cos the government paid for them. and if your house is burning, hope you have lots of water. your fire care is being cut off.

They lost me at aliens will be covered ....sorry. I read on the bill in BIG BOLD wording illegals are not covered... This kind of shit is what makes us look like idiots! The fucking bill is bad enough all on it's own without the lies. I think they are being sent out by the left to piss people off and make the mis- quote the bill thus making anything they say null!


Well, if YOU had conducted YOUR due diligence, you would understand that the loophole is THERE IS NO MANDATE TO VERIFY IF A PERSON IS HERE LEGALLY OR NOT.

So, I ask: who looks like the idiot?

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The volume of money that will be channeled through the health care industry due to these government run programs(which always go way over budget) over the coming years will balloon costs and will contribute to even more waste and mismanagement. This health care bubble will eventually bust, and instead of like when the property and money/stock bubbles of the past bursted which caused many to lose their houses and investments, it will be the lives of many that will be lost.

UMM yes there is... they are going to give us rfd cards and shit.... keep reading.

1990 pages? Somehow that bothers me. Not sure why exactly. Just does.

Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize all union retiree and community organizer health plans (read: SEIU, UAW and ACORN)



This is page 65....where does it say taxpayers will pay for union retirees???

Its a CARBON COPY of Hitler's 'health care' read his, its much easier to understand.. But the results will be the very same...

I wouldn't go to DC when Obama needs a false flag attack on U.S. soil for an excuse to invade Iran. Wouldn't it be convenient for him to eliminate the 2 other branches of the government along with all the right wing conservatives opposing him all at once?

Remember, Remember, the 5th of November:


Ahhhh...more FEAR, FEAR, FEAR...so you don't STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS!

You play right into their little hands. A good little sheep you are.

Disgusting. Sad.

Sadly disgusting.

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Page 22: Mandates audits of all employers that self-insure!
Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed!
Page 30: A government committee will decide what treatments and benefits you get (and, unlike an insurer, there will be no appeals process)
Page 42: The "Health Choices Commissioner" will decide health benefits for you. You will have no choice. None.
Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services.
Page 58: Every person will be issued a National ID Healthcard.
Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.
Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize all union retiree and community organizer health plans (read: SEIU, UAW and ACORN)
Page 72: All private healthcare plans must conform to government rules to participate in a Healthcare Exchange.
Page 84: All private healthcare plans must participate in the Healthcare Exchange (i.e., total government control of private plans)
Page 91: Government mandates linguistic infrastructure for services; translation: illegal aliens.

Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan.
Page 102: Those eligible for Medicaid will be automatically enrolled: you have no choice in the matter.
Page 124: No company can sue the government for price-fixing. No "judicial review" is permitted against the government monopoly. Put simply, private insurers will be crushed.
Page 127: The AMA sold doctors out: the government will set wages.
Page 145: An employer MUST auto-enroll employees into the government-run public plan. No alternatives.
Page 126: Employers MUST pay healthcare bills for part-time employees AND their families.
Page 149: Any employer with a payroll of $400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll
Page 150: Any employer with a payroll of $250K-400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays a 2 to 6% tax on payroll
Page 167: Any individual who doesn't' have acceptable healthcare (according to the government) will be taxed 2.5% of income.
Page 170: Any NON-RESIDENT alien is exempt from individual taxes (Americans will pay for them).
Page 195: Officers and employees of Government Healthcare Bureaucracy will have access to ALL American financial and personal records.
Page 203: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax." Yes, it really says that.

Page 239: Bill will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors and the poor most affected."
Page 241: Doctors: no matter what specialty you have, you'll all be paid the same (thanks, AMA!)
Page 253: Government sets value of doctors' time, their professional judgment, etc.
Page 265: Government mandates and controls productivity for private healthcare industries.
Page 268: Government regulates rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs.
Page 272: Cancer patients: welcome to the wonderful world of rationing!
Page 280: Hospitals will be penalized for what the government deems preventable re-admissions.
Page 298: Doctors: if you treat a patient during an initial admission that results in a readmission, you will be penalized by the government.
Page 317: Doctors: you are now prohibited for owning and investing in healthcare companies!
Page 318: Prohibition on hospital expansion. Hospitals cannot expand without government approval.
Page 321: Hospital expansion hinges on "community" input: in other words, yet another payoff for ACORN.
Page 335: Government mandates establishment of outcome-based measures: i.e., rationing.
Page 341: Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans, HMOs, etc.
Page 354: Government will restrict enrollment of SPECIAL NEEDS individuals.
Page 379: More bureaucracy: Telehealth Advisory Committee (healthcare by phone).
Page 425: More bureaucracy: Advance Care Planning Consult: Senior Citizens, assisted suicide, euthanasia?
Page 425: Government will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. Mandatory. Appears to lock in estate taxes ahead of time.
Page 425: Government provides approved list of end-of-life resources, guiding you in death.
Page 427: Government mandates program that orders end-of-life treatment; government dictates how your life ends.
Page 429: Advance Care Planning Consult will be used to dictate treatment as patient's health deteriorates. This can include an ORDER for end-of-life plans. An ORDER from the GOVERNMENT.
Page 430: Government will decide what level of treatments you may have at end-of-life.
Page 469: Community-based Home Medical Services: more payoffs for ACORN.
Page 472: Payments to Community-based organizations: more payoffs for ACORN.
Page 489: Government will cover marriage and family therapy. Government intervenes in your marriage.
Page 494: Government will cover mental health services: defining, creating and rationing those services.

They lost me at aliens will be covered ....sorry. I read on the bill in BIG BOLD wording illegals are not covered... This kind of shit is what makes us look like idiots! The fucking bill is bad enough all on it's own without the lies. I think they are being sent out by the left to piss people off and make the mis- quote the bill thus making anything they say null!


Well, if YOU had conducted YOUR due diligence, you would understand that the loophole is THERE IS NO MANDATE TO VERIFY IF A PERSON IS HERE LEGALLY OR NOT.

So, I ask: who looks like the idiot?

/



UMM yes there is... they are going to give us rfd cards and shit.... keep reading.

Yes, this is from a representative in Indiana. Got a chance to meet and talk with him, very knowledgeable, affable person.

Here is a portion of his take on the resolution:

[link to souder.house.gov]

Where do we go from here?
Senate Democrats are currently working behind closed doors to merge the Finance
Committee bill with the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP)
Committee bill. On October 29th, House Democrat Leadership introduced the Affordable
Health Care for America Act, H.R. 3962, which melded the three different versions of
H.R. 3200 that were approved by the House Energy and Commerce Committee,
Education and Labor Committee and the Ways and Means Committee earlier this
summer. Once the Senate merger is complete, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO)
will estimate how much each proposal costs and then the bills will move to the House and
Senate floors respectively for consideration. If both bills are approved, a committee
composed of members of the House and Senate will be convened to combine the House
and Senate versions into a single bill that can be approved by Congress and sent to the
President.
Because health care reform will affect every single American, we all deserve the
opportunity to fully read, understand, and share our views with our representatives before
any vote occurs. Any health care bill should be available for at least 72 hours with a full
CBO score prior to voting.
What do the Democrat bills have in common?
The House and Senate bills all agree that insurers must stop denying coverage for preexisting
conditions. They all require individuals to purchase insurance and impose
financial penalties on people who fail to do so. In addition, they all provide for an
enormous and costly expansion of Medicaid. According to the CBO, everyone in the
lowest income bracket will be forced into Medicaid thereby increasing each state’s
budget by $37 billion.
Each of the bills being considered will cut over $500 billion from Medicare to pay for
their costs. Specifically, the bills would cut the Medicare Advantage program affecting
30,833 seniors in our part of Indiana alone.
What are the major differences between the bills?
All of the bills set up variations of a government-run program known as “the public
option.” The Senate Finance Committee bill did not originally include one; however, the
Senate Democrat leadership recently announced that the legislation it intends to bring to
the Senate floor for consideration will include a public option. This plan will reportedly
allow states to opt out once the “Health Insurance Exchange,” that is intended to offer a
variety of insurance options, is up and running. According to news reports, under the
Senate plan, all states will have a public option by 2013 and they will be allowed to optout
a year later. While this sounds like an escape clause, it is really just a ruse designed
to make their bill more politically palatable.
Both the House and Senate HELP Committee bills include a government-run program
where the Secretary of Health and Human Services negotiates the payment rates. This
allows the Senate and House Democrats to claim that a government-run health plan will
be able to compete on a level playing field with private health insurers. According to
actuaries at the Lewin Group, this plan will have severe effects on the cost and delivery
of health care and could result in as many as 114 million Americans losing their current
insurance coverage and being forced into the public option.
In addition, the House and Senate HELP Committee bills impose a mandate on
employers to provide coverage to their employees or pay an 8 percent payroll tax penalty.
While the Senate Finance Committee bill does not include this provision, it does impose
fines on companies whose employees enroll in Medicaid or receive federal subsidies for
coverage they purchase through the health insurance exchange. Unlike the proposals from
the House and Senate HELP Committee, the Senate Finance Committee bill has a 35
percent tax on insurers who offer “Cadillac” plans (policies which cost more than $8,000
for individuals and $21,000 for families) and imposes huge taxes on medical device
manufacturers, pharmaceutical companies and health insurance companies to help pay for
their bill.