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I hope NASA won't forget to equip the new Ares I-X Rocket with CERAMIC tiles for re-entry!

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Papillon
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10/31/2009 8:40 AM
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I hope NASA won't forget to equip the new Ares I-X Rocket with CERAMIC tiles for re-entry!
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The Shuttle was well equipped with these heat resisting tiles!

Wouldn't want the Ares I-X to burn up like Meteors do when they hit earth's atmosphere.

ufo56
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10/31/2009 9:56 AM
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Makes you wonder how lucky the Apollo program was having not experienced any difficulty with entering back into the atmosphere without the heat ceramic tiles the Shuttle had to use in order to re-enter, the lunar capsule could have literally melted, wow, those guys were really really really lucky!

alien11
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User ID: 806950
10/31/2009 10:03 AM
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Not the rocket....the capsule!!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 10555
10/31/2009 10:15 AM
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actually find it hard to believe that nasa would send anyone to space in such a rocket, clearly the first stage was still firing when the detach occurred causing the capsule and attached second stage to whip around 180 degrees just as nasa cut the video feed. Any astronauts inside the capsule during such a jack knife event would be torn apart. 3 minutes up and three minutes back down to earth or just three minutes then terminal whiplash... certain death another successful nasa launch... not

Also I can't understand why nasa is allowed to waste such huge amounts of money on such stupidity. There is zero reason to put men in space anyway, space is far to dangerous without a radiation shield, you'd have a better chance in dodging bullets at 100 yards... abduct
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 807085 (OP)
10/31/2009 10:36 AM
Re: I hope NASA won't forget to equip the new Ares I-X Rocket with CERAMIC tiles for re-entry!Quote

Not the rocket....the capsule!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 806950

Yes exactly. NASA forgot these tiles with the lunar capsule and the heat generated on re-entry can reach as high as 3,000 degrees F (1,650 degrees C), that's really really really hot. We extract metal at lower temperature melting it from rock those Apollo astronauts were really really really lucky their capsule didn't literally melt, that the parachute ejector didn't fuse and functioned accordingly. Phew!

ROBOTdance
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 807071
10/31/2009 10:45 AM
Re: I hope NASA won't forget to equip the new Ares I-X Rocket with CERAMIC tiles for re-entry!Quote

Not the rocket....the capsule!!!

Yes exactly. NASA forgot these tiles with the lunar capsule and the heat generated on re-entry can reach as high as 3,000 degrees F (1,650 degrees C), that's really really really hot. We extract metal at lower temperature melting it from rock those Apollo astronauts were really really really lucky their capsule didn't literally melt, that the parachute ejector didn't fuse and functioned accordingly. Phew!

ROBOTdance
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 807085

bsmeter2
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User ID: 807085 (OP)
10/31/2009 11:17 AM
Re: I hope NASA won't forget to equip the new Ares I-X Rocket with CERAMIC tiles for re-entry!Quote

bsmeter2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 807071

Which part?

The part where the Apollo capsule had no HEAT RESISTANT TILES?
[link to static.howstuffworks.com]
[link to lh5.ggpht.com]
[link to ganymede.nmsu.edu]

The part where the parachute ejector and floating device functioned WITHOUT A SNAG?
[link to mix.msfc.nasa.gov]

The part where re-entry REACHES 3,000 DEGREES F?
[link to science.howstuffworks.com]

Which part?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 807085 (OP)
10/31/2009 12:09 PM
Re: I hope NASA won't forget to equip the new Ares I-X Rocket with CERAMIC tiles for re-entry!Quote

well? which is it?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 325890
10/31/2009 12:12 PM
Re: I hope NASA won't forget to equip the new Ares I-X Rocket with CERAMIC tiles for re-entry!Quote

This is the re-entry vehicle:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.nasa.gov]
[link to www.orionspacecraft.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 807149
10/31/2009 12:20 PM
Re: I hope NASA won't forget to equip the new Ares I-X Rocket with CERAMIC tiles for re-entry!Quote

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 325890


NASA has selected Altair as the name of the lunar lander the Constellation Program will use to put humans on the moon.

Altair will be capable of landing four astronauts on the moon, providing life support and a base for weeklong initial surface exploration missions, and returning the crew to the Orion spacecraft that will bring them home to Earth. Altair will launch aboard an Ares V rocket into low Earth orbit, where it will rendezvous with the Orion crew vehicle.


[link to www.nasa.gov]

WOW! The new lander will put FOUR people on the moon, instead of just two! WOW!

We sure have come a long way in the last 40 years!

5a
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 759743
10/31/2009 12:22 PM
Re: I hope NASA won't forget to equip the new Ares I-X Rocket with CERAMIC tiles for re-entry!Quote

Wow.

You don't do your homework do you?

HEAT SHIELD.

Don't understand what I'm talking about?

Go to the Air and Space museum.

Look at the capsule that is closest to the main entrance.

Look at the heat shield on the bottom of the capsule.

Look at the heat streaks on it.


MO

RAN


MO!

RAN!


MO!!!!!!!!!

RAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 807085 (OP)
10/31/2009 1:13 PM
Re: I hope NASA won't forget to equip the new Ares I-X Rocket with CERAMIC tiles for re-entry!Quote

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 325890

Holy Shit! Thanks dude.

Somebody get on the horn or e-mail NASA and remind them not to forget the HEAT RESISTANT TILES on the Ares/Orion capsule needed for re-entry like the Shuttle needed and still needs until its decommissioned. anon
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 807085 (OP)
10/31/2009 1:21 PM
Re: I hope NASA won't forget to equip the new Ares I-X Rocket with CERAMIC tiles for re-entry!Quote

Wow.

You don't do your homework do you?

HEAT SHIELD.

Don't understand what I'm talking about?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 759743

Dude don't get your feathers all ruffled-up, I'm just trying to divert a possible MAJOR malfunction.

Go to the Air and Space museum.

Look at the capsule that is closest to the main entrance.

Look at the heat shield on the bottom of the capsule.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 759743

True, the Apollo capsule has NO HEAT RESISTANT TILES which would have been needed to cool the Lunar-capsule on re-entry because temperatures rise to about 3,000 DEGREES F and that heat shield is made of metal which would have melted because metal melts at 3,000 DEGREES F.

Look at the heat streaks on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 759743

[link to static.howstuffworks.com]
[link to lh5.ggpht.com]
[link to ganymede.nmsu.edu]
[link to mix.msfc.nasa.gov]
[link to science.howstuffworks.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 807085 (OP)
10/31/2009 1:55 PM
Re: I hope NASA won't forget to equip the new Ares I-X Rocket with CERAMIC tiles for re-entry!Quote

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 666636
10/31/2009 2:05 PM
Re: I hope NASA won't forget to equip the new Ares I-X Rocket with CERAMIC tiles for re-entry!Quote

actually find it hard to believe that nasa would send anyone to space in such a rocket, clearly the first stage was still firing when the detach occurred causing the capsule and attached second stage to whip around 180 degrees just as nasa cut the video feed. Any astronauts inside the capsule during such a jack knife event would be torn apart. 3 minutes up and three minutes back down to earth or just three minutes then terminal whiplash... certain death another successful nasa launch... not
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10555


It was only a test of the solid stage and separation...

Sorry it went over your head, but...

That's probably why they are rcoket scientists, and you are jacking off in your Mommy's basement...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 807085 (OP)
10/31/2009 5:55 PM
Re: I hope NASA won't forget to equip the new Ares I-X Rocket with CERAMIC tiles for re-entry!Quote

Didn't anybody e-mail NASA? huh
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 780168
10/31/2009 11:14 PM
Re: I hope NASA won't forget to equip the new Ares I-X Rocket with CERAMIC tiles for re-entry!Quote

Didn't anybody e-mail NASA? huh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 807085

I know someone who knows someone at NASA, I'll speak with him next occasion and tell him about the heat resistant tiles.

Its rocket science, but sometimes even rocket scientist can forget.

alien16
nomuse(NLI)
User ID: 779945
11/7/2009 10:19 PM
Re: I hope NASA won't forget to equip the new Ares I-X Rocket with CERAMIC tiles for re-entry!Quote

True, the Apollo capsule has NO HEAT RESISTANT TILES which would have been needed to cool the Lunar-capsule on re-entry because temperatures rise to about 3,000 DEGREES F and that heat shield is made of metal which would have melted because metal melts at 3,000 DEGREES F.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 807085



What a maroon.

It's not metal, and it DID melt. It was designed to melt!

I'll bet you don't even know how the tiles on the shuttle work, either. You think they stay cool, perhaps? No...they get blazing hot (hot enough to melt metals). But they are also great insulators. THEY get hot -- what is under them does not.

In very simple terms, the Apollo heat shield (practically identical design and material is used today on the Russian vehicles bringing crew back from the ISS), is ablative; it is intended to break up to carry heat away from the spacecraft (the actual mechanism is slightly more complex).

Actually, one could easily design a spacecraft that didn't need a heat shield. The various heat shields are not because space craft MUST get hot, they are because a heat shield masses much less than the fuel, and the rocket motors, to de-accelerate from orbital velocities. Instead of turning fuel into heat into expanding gas into velocity change, they turn velocity into pressure into compressed gas into heat that largely goes into the atmosphere.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 627465
11/8/2009 2:19 PM
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