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If alien abductions are real, and keep visiting the abductee. Why dont they ever use the abductee as bait?

 
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My first abduction/contactee experiences were when I was wide awake, and playing in our pasture.

And UFO's are real too.

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Interesting what is your story? What is in the pictures?
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Why dont they bait the aliens and record what takes place with a hidden camera?




"Alien visitations" or "abductions" only happen in the mind. And only when no one else is around.

The demon (who implants the false memory) can see if someone is attempting to "bait" a visitation, or take video/photos.



You will NEVER see an "abduction".... EVER. PERIOD. End of story.


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How about you tell me your story as well.
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the ones i met were 7 feet tall.
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99.9% of cases are probably sleep paralysis.


You're completely uninformed too. Sleep paralysis doesn't fit in every abduction scenario as you're stating.


Check yo maths bud.

Im not saying all abductions are bullshit, im saying most of them are.

The others are unexplainable, however unexplained does not mean alien abduction or supernatural.

If one person is witness to an event, the event is not quantifiable as there is no way to differentiate between whats internal and external, it could be a hallucination, a dream.

When two people have had a close encounter, that also doesnt rule out things such as shared hallucinations, that can happen. But it adds some legitimacy to the event being external of the self as two people have experienced it.

All rational explanation has to be exhausted before speculating.
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Fair enough, but the only one who really need to check the maths if you. 99.99% is like saying "everything". Don't fuck with me. Thanks.
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My first abduction/contactee experiences were when I was wide awake, and playing in our pasture.

And UFO's are real too.

UFOpair

ufogold



Interesting what is your story? What is in the pictures?
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Thanks for asking OP.

The pictures are but two among thousands I have taken since 2007 when sightings went way up worldwide.

My story began to my knowledge when I was about 4. A small bell shaped craft landed shortly after a couple of small silver orbs were darting around our filed under the power lines. I thought they were flying toys. LOL
A doorway opened, two greys standing there. One came down a ramp, and I walked toward it and took it's hand. Telepathic communication - easy because I was psychic.
I went with them, and somehow the little bell shaped craft was huge inside, with a Nord at the controls. I was able to direct the greys over the Nord's commands, which amused him enourmously. I got to play with the ship's controls until I sent it out of kilter a bit.
My second memorable experience was a saucer craft that picked me up out of the field. That's when they shoved an implant up my nose. I can still remember the way it felt, and the sound of the cartlidge crunching. My grandmother took me to the doctor the next day because of the nose bleed. He was my uncle, and refused to do an xray because he didn't want me exposed to xrays unless an emergency.
Shortly after, we had two mutilated cattle, which I found. We also had two crop circles in the rice field.

Plenty more to the story, including being the spouse of an AF man stationed at Holloman/White Sands who was tasked with high security clearance UFO radar tracking. Lots of activity out there, including Nord families living openly on base.

This photo I took in January '09
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Catch Lucky and get his lucky charms.

Don't you see? ET is a magical being. Weeeeeeeee.
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An example could be.

I claimed to have seen a pink unicorn, without some external frame of reference it is difficult to prove my claims, i could just be lying.

I could have indeed witnessed a pink unicorn, but still that does not make it real, was it a hallucination?, was it external from my psyche?

If i had a video camera and filmed it, it adds some weight to the statement as it becomes more difficult to explain rationally.

If two or more people saw exactly the same thing it becomes harder still to explain, especially if the people do not know each other.

A sole witness to an event is basically useless without some other external reference, such as a camera etc.
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The problem with your theory is that no one is seeing "pink unicorns". Abductees are seeing similar things and that's what finally arrives to the ears of some researchers. If you take your time and read the first part of the book "The Threat" you will realize that you can't blame to the "media contamination" when analyzing some abduction reports.

And we have cases where people is confirming somebody else story because they shared the same abduction. How do you explain that? And what about the cases when the abducteed actually disappear for a couple of hours (or even more) and the relatives are desperated trying to find them, searching in every possible place, and suddendly, this person "appears", and time later, abduction memories arise related to that disappearing.

Also, there're cases when some women got pregnant, without explaining how is that possible if there was not sexual life at all. Time later, the pregnacy "disappear", and again, abduction memories arise related to such situations.

There's a lot more, things that only can be explained if these abductions are real, and not some kind of hallucination.
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Because those big eyed, little, flyin saucer making mother fuckers are smart, that's why.
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An example could be.

I claimed to have seen a pink unicorn, without some external frame of reference it is difficult to prove my claims, i could just be lying.

I could have indeed witnessed a pink unicorn, but still that does not make it real, was it a hallucination?, was it external from my psyche?

If i had a video camera and filmed it, it adds some weight to the statement as it becomes more difficult to explain rationally.

If two or more people saw exactly the same thing it becomes harder still to explain, especially if the people do not know each other.

A sole witness to an event is basically useless without some other external reference, such as a camera etc.


The problem with your theory is that no one is seeing "pink unicorns". Abductees are seeing similar things and that's what finally arrives to the ears of some researchers. If you take your time and read the first part of the book "The Threat" you will realize that you can't blame to the "media contamination" when analyzing some abduction reports.

And we have cases where people is confirming somebody else story because they shared the same abduction. How do you explain that? And what about the cases when the abducteed actually disappear for a couple of hours (or even more) and the relatives are desperated trying to find them, searching in every possible place, and suddendly, this person "appears", and time later, abduction memories arise related to that disappearing.

Also, there're cases when some women got pregnant, without explaining how is that possible if there was not sexual life at all. Time later, the pregnacy "disappear", and again, abduction memories arise related to such situations.

There's a lot more, things that only can be explained if these abductions are real, and not some kind of hallucination.
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I dont think you comprehended the point i made at all.
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Why dont they bait the aliens and record what takes place with a hidden camera?
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Why havent i ever thought of that.so true.Maybe now that u figuerd it out we will see an abduction on video.
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Why dont they bait the aliens and record what takes place with a hidden camera?




"Alien visitations" or "abductions" only happen in the mind. And only when no one else is around.

The demon (who implants the false memory) can see if someone is attempting to "bait" a visitation, or take video/photos.



You will NEVER see an "abduction".... EVER. PERIOD. End of story.


WE (I) HAVE.

Peace to all. Have faith in love and in each other.
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Hey CharlaneIn2009could you explain what happened to you. And who is 'We'?
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My first abduction/contactee experiences were when I was wide awake, and playing in our pasture.

And UFO's are real too.

:UFOpair:

:ufogold:



Interesting what is your story? What is in the pictures?

Thanks for asking OP.

The pictures are but two among thousands I have taken since 2007 when sightings went way up worldwide.

My story began to my knowledge when I was about 4. A small bell shaped craft landed shortly after a couple of small silver orbs were darting around our filed under the power lines. I thought they were flying toys. LOL
A doorway opened, two greys standing there. One came down a ramp, and I walked toward it and took it's hand. Telepathic communication - easy because I was psychic.
I went with them, and somehow the little bell shaped craft was huge inside, with a Nord at the controls. I was able to direct the greys over the Nord's commands, which amused him enourmously. I got to play with the ship's controls until I sent it out of kilter a bit.
My second memorable experience was a saucer craft that picked me up out of the field. That's when they shoved an implant up my nose. I can still remember the way it felt, and the sound of the cartlidge crunching. My grandmother took me to the doctor the next day because of the nose bleed. He was my uncle, and refused to do an xray because he didn't want me exposed to xrays unless an emergency.
Shortly after, we had two mutilated cattle, which I found. We also had two crop circles in the rice field.

Plenty more to the story, including being the spouse of an AF man stationed at Holloman/White Sands who was tasked with high security clearance UFO radar tracking. Lots of activity out there, including Nord families living openly on base.

This photo I took in January '09
:startrek:

Hundreds of photos I took of UFO's & phenomena @
[link to www.picasaweb.google.com] My YouTube channel, with 42 original vids, @ [link to www.youtube.com]
Dinner time now, chili & conqueso. Yummy!
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Interesting story do you live on a farm? And did the aliens give you any revelations? Did you ever x-ray what was planted in your nose? Have you ever thought of photographing the aliens? Why do you believe aliens have never been caught on film?
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Why dont they bait the aliens and record what takes place with a hidden camera?
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When your dealing with hyperdimensional beings, such as grays / reptilians, you're faced with intellegence that:

1. Can read your thoughts

2. Lives outside of time (they experience no time in 4D)


So whats left? They're so far ahead of us we're like ants in a jar.
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This depends on who 'they' (The trap setters) are.

I believe that some civilian UFO researchers have tried to 'trap' the events with no success. Lots of things have been tried, from having a person present to having technology present.

While the critics hold these 'tests' up as 'proof' that abductions do not take place, researches see it a 'proof' that they are dealing with a very high intelligence that seems able to detect our 'traps'.

Government "traps" may be a bit more successful since the government can pull in things like orbital platforms to observe from a distance.

SOME (not all) Abductees appear to have more than just 'alien' contact. It appears that more earthbound forces attempt to 'cash in' on their plight. Thus SOME of the Men In Black encounters appear to be government at work, while others appear to be ET in nature.

Government "traps" are all hearsay and 'theory' in that the government has not come out and said that it actually takes any interest in the abduction cases. However there seems to be some papers and other documentation that hints at a real interest by the government in these cases.
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Interesting story do you live on a farm? And did the aliens give you any revelations? Did you ever x-ray what was planted in your nose? Have you ever thought of photographing the aliens? Why do you believe aliens have never been caught on film?
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I grew up on a farm, coastal east Texas, just east of Houston. We had a small cattle ranch with the usual other critters. The rice farm land was closer to the Gulf, & seperate from the ranch.

Revelations? Hmmm......that we are from a very ancient race which travels space. That they too seek the spiritual God, the source of all. They have been in contact with our government at least since Eisenhower.
Abductees tend to come from the same families, genetic lines, generation after generation. It seems it is because we descend from an ancient line related to a space based/other planetary line who are our parents.
They know us through our souls, recognise us from lifetime to lifetime, and have respect for who we are in total, not just in this lifetime.

They are here now to protect us and this planet from a real enemy, & a war in near space with intent to shield us from seeing it if possible, or being harmed by it at worst. We have space forces aligned with them, and need to learn to be able to shield ourselves. ( might explain where the missing Pentagon trillions went)

I haven't had an xray of the implant, but I've wondered if life might have been different, better without it. I have bad migraines, and am an EQ sensitve. I am extremely sensitive to the frequency noises and changes.

I'm sure that aliens have been photographed. I have photographed them, although they show up more easily in an old digital camera without an IR filter built in. It picks up the extreme distortion at ground level when they are there. They are very hard to make out, but can be seen with photo adjustments and bigtime enlargements. They are from very small to quite large, some much like us, and others very different, even some looking like cartoon characters. Maybe that's where the ideas for those cartoon characters came from.

I do have a few photos with the good digital showing ET's sometimes.
These are recent. Look carefully, and you will see a few faces looking out of 'windows' between the vapor puffs.
[link to picasaweb.google.com]
This is unbrightened, and little easier to see.
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Interesting story do you live on a farm? And did the aliens give you any revelations? Did you ever x-ray what was planted in your nose? Have you ever thought of photographing the aliens? Why do you believe aliens have never been caught on film?


I grew up on a farm, coastal east Texas, just east of Houston. We had a small cattle ranch with the usual other critters. The rice farm land was closer to the Gulf, & seperate from the ranch.

Revelations? Hmmm......that we are from a very ancient race which travels space. That they too seek the spiritual God, the source of all. They have been in contact with our government at least since Eisenhower.
Abductees tend to come from the same families, genetic lines, generation after generation. It seems it is because we descend from an ancient line related to a space based/other planetary line who are our parents.
They know us through our souls, recognise us from lifetime to lifetime, and have respect for who we are in total, not just in this lifetime.

They are here now to protect us and this planet from a real enemy, & a war in near space with intent to shield us from seeing it if possible, or being harmed by it at worst. We have space forces aligned with them, and need to learn to be able to shield ourselves. ( might explain where the missing Pentagon trillions went)

I haven't had an xray of the implant, but I've wondered if life might have been different, better without it. I have bad migraines, and am an EQ sensitve. I am extremely sensitive to the frequency noises and changes.

I'm sure that aliens have been photographed. I have photographed them, although they show up more easily in an old digital camera without an IR filter built in. It picks up the extreme distortion at ground level when they are there. They are very hard to make out, but can be seen with photo adjustments and bigtime enlargements. They are from very small to quite large, some much like us, and others very different, even some looking like cartoon characters. Maybe that's where the ideas for those cartoon characters came from.

I do have a few photos with the good digital showing ET's sometimes.
These are recent. Look carefully, and you will see a few faces looking out of 'windows' between the vapor puffs.
[link to picasaweb.google.com]
This is unbrightened, and little easier to see.
[link to picasaweb.google.com]
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could you feel much about the relationship between the greys and nords? in sync or not quite?
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alien abductions=government run ops with cyborg "greys"

at least that's what i have come to know..

also i heard that anyone abducted had made the agreement to help out the hybrid program on a soul level before incarnating.

basically nothing to fear in my opinion.

i'm actually not sure if it's real or an epic campaign run by illuminati to create fear about so called "aliens"

interesting times ahead:)

the truth will be known, soon:)

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Why dont they bait the aliens and record what takes place with a hidden camera?




"Alien visitations" or "abductions" only happen in the mind. And only when no one else is around.

The demon (who implants the false memory) can see if someone is attempting to "bait" a visitation, or take video/photos.



You will NEVER see an "abduction".... EVER. PERIOD. End of story.



So then you believe 'aliens' are actually spirits or demons?



I would like for just one abductee. to scratch an alien and later collect the dna from under the nail and send it in as proof.
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Synthetic beings don't have DNA.
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Why dont they bait the aliens and record what takes place with a hidden camera?




"Alien visitations" or "abductions" only happen in the mind. And only when no one else is around.

The demon (who implants the false memory) can see if someone is attempting to "bait" a visitation, or take video/photos.



You will NEVER see an "abduction".... EVER. PERIOD. End of story.
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How would you explain scars, missing tooth roots, implants on abductees?
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Why dont they bait the aliens and record what takes place with a hidden camera?




"Alien visitations" or "abductions" only happen in the mind. And only when no one else is around.

The demon (who implants the false memory) can see if someone is attempting to "bait" a visitation, or take video/photos.



You will NEVER see an "abduction".... EVER. PERIOD. End of story.
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You obviously have never been abducted, nor had physical evidence of abduction.

Maybe not all abductions are real, but truthfully---some are.
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Why dont they bait the aliens and record what takes place with a hidden camera?

When your dealing with hyperdimensional beings, such as grays / reptilians, you're faced with intellegence that:

1. Can read your thoughts

2. Lives outside of time (they experience no time in 4D)


So whats left? They're so far ahead of us we're like ants in a jar.
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There's no "hyperdimensional" nothing. That's all BS. Just because they got better technology we have, doesn't means that we need to create such concepts in order to describe them.

They don't live "outside" the time either. If that's the case, how do you explain these cases where they abduct someone and the relatives can't find him/her? If they can manipulate time, they will act in a different way.

They just got better technology, that's all.

The thing we need to start thinking is WHY they're creating hybrids and WHY they're genetically compatible with us.
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Maybe not all abductions are real, but truthfully---some are.
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True. The only evidence I was left with was sunburned retinas and a Mom who knows my story was real--because they took her too. Found that out when I told her about my "dream" of little grey people with cat eyes and she turned white and got real quiet, told me she had passed out on the couch the night before after seeing what she though was the flashing lights of a police car outside our house.
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Maybe not all abductions are real, but truthfully---some are.


True. The only evidence I was left with was sunburned retinas and a Mom who knows my story was real--because they took her too. Found that out when I told her about my "dream" of little grey people with cat eyes and she turned white and got real quiet, told me she had passed out on the couch the night before after seeing what she though was the flashing lights of a police car outside our house.
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I've got uvitis right now, so to some extent I can relate to your eye problems.

I recall drawing a picture of the "Little Doctors" when I was four or five and showing it to my father at the dinner table, only to be told not to worry, it was just a dream.

We're talking 1960-61, a long time before "Close Encounters" came out. I also was pre-literate, so no imput from reading.

Regular nosebleeds as a child, and tons of classic abductee crap.

We lived way out in the country, at the end of a deadend dirt road, yet SOMEHOW the "flashing blue police lights" outside my window never seemed incongrous to me, and I'd just "fall off to sleep".

Anyone who's experience abduction or "visits" has no doubt about it. Especially when there's physical evidence left behind.

As if sleep paralysis causes burnt retinas, hah!

Question, AC: has your mom ever talked about that incident, with you over the years, or does she prefer to forget it?
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Maybe not all abductions are real, but truthfully---some are.


True. The only evidence I was left with was sunburned retinas and a Mom who knows my story was real--because they took her too. Found that out when I told her about my "dream" of little grey people with cat eyes and she turned white and got real quiet, told me she had passed out on the couch the night before after seeing what she though was the flashing lights of a police car outside our house.
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Did you get to talk with them or you vaguely remember what happened.
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dear clueless,
try recording your dreams on film. you CAN'T can you? clearly they passed you over for their hybrid program.
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Maybe not all abductions are real, but truthfully---some are.


True. The only evidence I was left with was sunburned retinas and a Mom who knows my story was real--because they took her too. Found that out when I told her about my "dream" of little grey people with cat eyes and she turned white and got real quiet, told me she had passed out on the couch the night before after seeing what she though was the flashing lights of a police car outside our house.




Did you get to talk with them or you vaguely remember what happened.
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Dunno where the OP is, but I got to "talk" with them one time while camping alone in the forest. They talk in your head. And remember, telepathy's just another word until you've had it used on you. It's very real.

I remember "talking" to them, exact words "You look Japanese, but I know you're just trying to make me think that." No drugs, no alcohol, only coffee and tobacco.

They make a sound that's I'd describe as an 80 pound squirrel chittering, when they make any noise at all. They move as quietly as a deer.
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11/02/2009 01:44 AM
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