I have a few enlightening questions for all of you.

Concentrate on the position a bit more. Do thoughts arise in this location, and are they also judged in this location? Really try to focus on the position.

The results of this exercise should surprise you. Try to consider the implications.

Last Edited by Aleilius on 11/01/2009 06:26 AM

It seems to be located behind my left eye now.
I could even say behind both eyes. Oh you do have me intrigued. But i'm unsure of these implications you speak of. Can you tell me more?

I adhere to your "theory" as being the most sensible. Terminology-wise however, I discern that the "soul" is the collective, dynamic "Book of Life" recording that is imprinted into the space time medium universe iterations beginning at ones conception (conception because there is electrical current flowing in the device called your cells and the the collection of them called your body) and completing upon inversion (death)

The actual component of self that is self-aware is the spirit which is the device that manipulates the controls through multiple regions of the body-device, brain, to make the recording, Book of Life, into this space-time recording.

The spirit is fed its keep-alive voltage and current from the mathematics induced upon the ONE infinitesimal singularity that places it in infinite kinetics. It's the same infinite kinetics of the ONE infinitesimal singularity that also creates the infinite expanse, which that in turn births-out all future universe iterations.

Time moves through the static and kinetic mathematical structures that comprise our present, out from future universe iterations, resonate our devices we recognize as present, then this current continues on to become past universe iterations.

Our spirit is right now locked in forward time because our recording device (the body and brain) but we have through the use of this body device the ability to modify the structures in our vicinity space.

After inversion (death) the spirit is no longer in locked forward time (no body) and it cannot further affect structures in any space. But the spirit can now engage all your Book of Life (it's all you are, all you recognize, all you know) forward and backward freely in this span of universe iterations associated as your past.

This will get mighty old and horrific for you as realize you cannot change anything in your recording. So I hope everyone has recorded the escape Door, which is an infinite kinetic structure. I also hope that the "black holes" of incredibly powerful suction and adherance (sins) have been eliminated because as your spirit dwells through your Book of Life, your soul, it an be held fast by them and you cannot reach the Door, the only way out of your soul, everyones hell.

I think, therefore I am

Mostly, depends on what I am doing. I have had times when it moves all the way to front right above my eyes.

Hi, I'm sorry, but I do not want to influence the thread too much this early. I will mention more as the thread progresses. Stating the answers too early might go against the goals of this thread. Some may never complete the exercise if I mentioned what they're supposed to expect.

It's not something you're supposed to be shown, but rather it's something you're supposed to experience on your own. After all, the exercise must be carried out in order to understand where I'm coming from.

Last Edited by Aleilius on 11/01/2009 02:47 PM

1. Depends on how you define thoughts. Thoughts that are similar to speech probably in the younger parts of the brain. But before information reaches there, it goes through all layers and areas of the brain. Pictures, touch, orientation, taste, smell. These areas grew in different stages of evolution, so we have a (developing) human brain, a monkey brain, a ??-mammal brain... etc down to lizards, and on, actually down to the first life form. Each of these brains handles data differently. Also the brain in your head isn't really your only brain, in the gut there is an comparable amount of neurons and throughout the body there are lots of them too. So a 'thought' or process can be started by a touch of your hand and then goes up your spine and thorugh these brains. Or it is started within any of these brains, depending what kind of process it is.
So it is everywhere at the same time. Interacting processes processing interactions.
It doesn't stop here. A living being, a human doesn't exist all alone in an empty universe. You cannopt be separated from your environment, both dead and living. By social interaction these processes leave the boundary of the body and become spread over groups of people, cities, countries, species, etc etc.

2. judging is also a thought

3. so yes, in a way, when "everywhere = everywhere"

Oh and... just my idea :)

Thank you for this, but I must ask: did you actually try to find this apparent position, or are you simply looking at this from an intellectual viewpoint? For this exercise to work properly you must disregard your scientific notions. It is not simply an exercise in thought, but rather, it's an exercise in feeling.

Still your mind, think a single thought (it must be a statement), and try to locate the position from whence this thought arises. If you're able to locate this position, then focus on that position, and ask a question (i.e. a judgment). Do you notice a change in position?

Some individuals are better able to do this than others, but this is simply because they're more aware of the inner workings of the mind, and their body. However, with that being said, the results are universal, and to obtain results it is only required that you put forth effort.

Last Edited by Aleilius on 11/01/2009 03:15 PM

Sorry I read about the exercise later. I'm familiar with a little bit of meditation, and the results seem to confirm this non-local aspect. When you look for the place, it disappears. There are points in the brain that have significance, like the pineal gland. Also I don't think it is possible to find this point in this way. See, when you focus on your hand, you feel that it is there on the end of your arm, but only because you learned that it is there. In reality it happens in your mind, wherever that is. Same with thoughts, I don't think trying to locate a thought yields a specific significant point in the brain, it's learned. It can be behind the eyes or in teh guts, or far away in a distant galaxy...depending on whether you think about an elephant or about the loss of a loved one. The question and exercise is not new to me. I'm curious about other peoples findings, though.

I'm sorry, but I must kindly disagree with a number of points you've mentioned. I disagree with everything that's bolded.

It is not simply because you're focusing on a certain part of your mind, but rather you're becoming aware of the location from which thought arises. It is an exercise in discovery, and gaining awareness of a subtle feeling.

For instance: I can focus on top left side of my brain, but when I think a thought my focus immediately changes without consciously making the change.

Last Edited by Aleilius on 11/01/2009 03:27 PM

It is you right to disagree, and I may be wrong, but I may be right :). Lemme just rephrase it in a more compact form:
I think a sense of location in the brain is insignificant as to where something really happens in the brain. Two pairs of shoes.

We can agree to disagree, and I suppose this will take place a number of times throughout the course of this thread.

May I post a question to you? Where does your inner voice manifest? Is it the front of your brain, the right side of your brain, the left side of your brain, the base of your brain, the center of your brain, or are you unable to locate this position?

There's no need to over think this, and there's no need to try to rationalize. It is an exercise in gaining awareness of the location of the manifestation of one's consciousness.

Of course, if you've made your mind up, and you're unable to locate this position, then that's entirely fine too!

Last Edited by Aleilius on 11/01/2009 03:36 PM

For the second time, for me it's not locally confined to a particular spot, about the center of the brain plays a role, but sometimes its further away sometimes closer. which leads me to the conclusion that this center is mostly learned.

And why are you attacking me? Only because I have a different opinion?

In my case:
1.Everywhere, not only from the brain but also from the body, the outside and "other dimensions".
2. Center of the brain. Or better a "string" in the center of my body with a "knot" in the center of the brain, where the main action is.
3. No

I'm sorry, I'm not attacking you. I'm trying to push you along in the right direction, and make you question your previous notions.

Ok then I'm out of here, if you want to "push" into the "right" direction. I thought this was about finding out, not your personal version.

All of my thoughts come from the HEART !!!!

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Another interesting perspective!

The apparent location of your inner voice is also the location from whence thoughts arise/manifest. Is your inner voice located outside of your body? Can you feel your thoughts coming from a few feet away? Does your inner voice occur in your hand, or your foot?

Don't take this as an attack. I am simply questioning your viewpoints.

I am sorry you feel that way. Please have a good day/night.

Does your inner voice manifest in your heart?

I'm sorry too, not feeling to well for various reasons :( Thank you for buffering my negativeness.

YES !!!!

The Heart Is Two Number 2's !!

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The Human Skull Has 22 Bones !!

My Inner Voice Comes From The Two-Two !!

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1 front sides
2 back center
3 no

Thank you.

How easily were you able to discern these locations?

Last Edited by Aleilius on 11/01/2009 04:01 PM

Some details:
"Random" thoughts tend to sneak in from outside of me.
They become clearer when they approach the region of the brain where they are processed. This region depends on the "topic".
Some signals come from varying parts of my body. Actually there is a constant flow of signals I can tune into if I want. These become "real thoughts" when I let them enter the brain.
Thoughts which I need for intentional actions like writing this response are generated inside the brain.
First step is imagination, then evaluation.
Imagination is done in various regions, like words middle-leftbrain, pictures rightbrain front-halve.
The output of these processes is evaluated in the center of the brain with feedback via "feeling" from the "belly-brain".
Hope this is clearer.

Thanks for this, but I think you've over analyzed. One doesn't need to think about this in great detail, or to compose complex theories. Your first post caught my attention, but I think this post skewed off on a tangent.

This is all you need to do:

Still your mind, think a single thought (it must be a statement), and try to locate the position from whence this thought arises. If you're able to locate this position, then focus on that position, and ask a question (i.e. a judgment). Do you notice a change in location?

After this post I will not influence the results anymore.

Last Edited by Aleilius on 11/01/2009 04:46 PM

Hi OP. It's a new day here and my id may have changed (i'm on a mobile). I thought alot about this last night and this may sound weird, but i've got this overwhelming feeling that absolutely everything is coming from my left side, and when closing my left eye and looking out my right, it reminds me of looking out a window and being stuck inside.
Am i only using half my brain? It "feels" like i am and all i can think of now is, what am i wasting?