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Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 808340
11/1/2009 10:40 PM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
the docile sheep will do nothing while being slaughtered. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 790836
Like a lamb to the slaughter haha |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 808345
11/1/2009 11:22 PM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
 For the Vid on page 2 |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 716745
11/2/2009 1:28 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
"Authorities in Kiev, Ukraine, deny spraying of “aerosolized medication” by aircraft over city."
come on!!!  |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 792499
11/2/2009 1:35 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
"Authorities in Kiev, Ukraine, deny spraying of “aerosolized medication” by aircraft over city."
come on!!!
Maybe its not medication they're spraying then. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 806723
11/2/2009 1:47 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
Now why doesn't it make the news that they've been aerosol spraying over my city for over a decade. Or why is their aerosol spray getting coverage now? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 808447
11/2/2009 1:55 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
Putin called Reinfeldt from Sweden (chairman of Europe) and told that it was not certain anymore that they could deliver gas to Europe from Ukraïne.
(too expensive or something) |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 758380
11/2/2009 1:58 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
I just read somewhere (sorry-forgot which site) that they decided to spray because this "plague" is moving so fast and they don't have any vaccines.
In this particular case I think this country is trying to STOP all of these sudden deaths. Quoting: Miggy 795573
bulllllSHIT
If these stories are true, and we don't know because there have so many lies about flu, then the planes are probably what delivered the virus.
My GOD, this is the EXACT scenario of Gore Vidal's old book, Kalki, where the world was wiped out with ariel spraying. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 758380
11/2/2009 2:21 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
Don't you tinfoil hatters know that spraying aerosols from planes is not technologically feasible? It is downright impossible to atomize chemicals and spray them, so please just chill-lax would ya?
Again: Not possible to spray chemicals. What you are seeing is are "contrails", simple water vapor.
Spraying shit from planes is something your nation's scientists are working feverishly towards, and we want to be able to do it for good (like to get chemicals onto crops and such) but we're not there yet, and when we have that technology working, OF COURSE we will let you know, but until then, stop with the crazy conspiracies! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 806733
Fuck off lunkhead |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 808173
11/2/2009 2:27 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY SPRAYING?? Is it even possible to spray a vaccine???? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 807373
No, it is not.However, it IS possible to spray more of the virus itself, which is what they (or course) are doing. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 758380
11/2/2009 2:31 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
Man, this whole thing is getting really bizarre |
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The_Tauremini
User ID: 559949
11/2/2009 2:42 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
I got my swine flu vaccine today. It was the most painless needle ever. I'm traveling to Japan on Wednesday, so it was sort of a must.
I'll keep you updated.
-Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 774992
11/2/2009 2:47 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY SPRAYING?? Is it even possible to spray a vaccine????
No, it is not.However, it IS possible to spray more of the virus itself, which is what they (or course) are doing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 808173
[link to translate.google.ca] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 758380
11/2/2009 2:48 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
I got my swine flu vaccine today. It was the most painless needle ever. I'm traveling to Japan on Wednesday, so it was sort of a must.
I'll keep you updated. Quoting: The_Tauremini
liar |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 176293
11/2/2009 2:54 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
I'll keep you updated. Quoting: The_Tauremini
No you wont. |
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xc
User ID: 800969
11/2/2009 3:19 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY SPRAYING?? Is it even possible to spray a vaccine????
No, it is not.However, it IS possible to spray more of the virus itself, which is what they (or course) are doing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 808173
It's just testing bio warfare. You see i researched a possible date for ww3 and summer 2010 comes in many predictions plus the us retreating soldiers from the middle east is clearly an indication that war is preparing behind the scenes. |
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max
User ID: 751565
11/2/2009 3:45 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
i ,d be looking for those aircraft if i was in the ukraine, spraying what ?... why do people assume its " oh they must have their best interest at heart".. you stupid fucking people, population reduction isn,t a god damned theory for christ sakes its real its us or them deal with it, |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 804965
11/2/2009 3:52 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
[link to www.efakt.pl]
More info from Ukraine. Apparently the streets are deserted in the city of Lviv, where up to 69,000 are sick and 'normal life has stopped.'
WTF is happening? We need to get confirmation and pictures. Anyone know of any live webcams in Lviv? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 566027
11/2/2009 3:53 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
[ link to www.efakt.pl]
More info from Ukraine. Apparently the streets are deserted in the city of Lviv, where up to 69,000 are sick and 'normal life has stopped.'
WTF is happening? We need to get confirmation and pictures. Anyone know of any live webcams in Lviv?
Good find - we need more reports from the zone or people whom can read and understand Ukrainian.... |
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Theteck
User ID: 808489
11/2/2009 4:00 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
this mutation of the virus seam more dangerous :( keep it in this country |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 672014
11/2/2009 4:07 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
Pneumonic plague has claimed 1,500 lives in Ukraine
[link to translate.google.com]
"About 1500 people have died over the past week in Ukraine. As noted by some doctors, the reason - pneumonic plague. High temperatures from the first day, a burning sensation in the chest, the desire to drink cold and nausea - all of these symptoms are frightening. People die for a few days. The virus has not been treated in our country. Andrew Makrush, head physician of one from the Ternopil hospital believes that only in the Ternopil killed over 1000 people."
1.5k deaths just in first week.... Seems like fucking BIG DOOM. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 566027
11/2/2009 4:08 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
So, WHO is in the Ukraine -
[link to www.euro.who.int]
But, where are their reports from the field? NOTHING on their web page about it.
Some Google searches show a rather late series of actions:
Audio: Sep24 Oct8 Oct15 Oct29 RSS Feed twitter News Now
Live feed of underlying pandemic map data here
Commentary
WHO Team to Investigate Ukraine H1N1 Outbreaks
Recombinomics Commentary 23:43
October 30, 2009
Gregory Hartl said the team was being pulled together by the WHO's Global Outbreak Alert and Response Network, which goes by the acronym GOARN.
The team will travel early next week to the eastern European country, which has closed schools and banned public meetings in response to a spike in cases of acute respiratory illness believed to be H1N1.
"This is something that certainly needs investigating," Hartl said from Geneva.
He said the government of Ukraine is being forthcoming with information on the outbreak, which is said to centre on three regions in the western part of the country.
The above comments describe a WHO investigational team being formed in response to the outbreak in Ukraine (see map). Although the story is evolving, some reports describe a dramatic spread of the virus to 80,000 people, with as many as 100 fatalities. The early reports describing 100 fatalities mentioned 10,000 infections, which would create an alarming case fatality rate of 1%. The newer cases would lower the rate, assuming the most recent cases don't follow the pattern described in the first 10,000 cases.
Media reports included descriptions of blood filled lungs, raising visions of the 1918 pandemic, which also involved swine H1N1 that jumped to humans and was efficiently transmitted. Samples have already been sent to London for analysis, and immediate release of initial sequence data would be useful.
Small changes can have dramatic effects when viruses jump species, and the rapid spread of the H1N1 in western Ukraine is clearly cause for concern.
[link to www.recombinomics.com]
Takes them about a WEEK to get there (if they get there early this week)?
That does not seem right, ESPECIALLY when they have a local office and all. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 566027
11/2/2009 4:10 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
So, WHO is in the Ukraine -
[ link to www.euro.who.int]
But, where are their reports from the field? NOTHING on their web page about it.
Some Google searches show a rather late series of actions:
Audio: Sep24 Oct8 Oct15 Oct29 RSS Feed twitter News Now
Live feed of underlying pandemic map data here
Commentary
WHO Team to Investigate Ukraine H1N1 Outbreaks
Recombinomics Commentary 23:43
October 30, 2009
Gregory Hartl said the team was being pulled together by the WHO's Global Outbreak Alert and Response Network, which goes by the acronym GOARN.
The team will travel early next week to the eastern European country, which has closed schools and banned public meetings in response to a spike in cases of acute respiratory illness believed to be H1N1.
"This is something that certainly needs investigating," Hartl said from Geneva.
He said the government of Ukraine is being forthcoming with information on the outbreak, which is said to centre on three regions in the western part of the country.
The above comments describe a WHO investigational team being formed in response to the outbreak in Ukraine (see map). Although the story is evolving, some reports describe a dramatic spread of the virus to 80,000 people, with as many as 100 fatalities. The early reports describing 100 fatalities mentioned 10,000 infections, which would create an alarming case fatality rate of 1%. The newer cases would lower the rate, assuming the most recent cases don't follow the pattern described in the first 10,000 cases.
Media reports included descriptions of blood filled lungs, raising visions of the 1918 pandemic, which also involved swine H1N1 that jumped to humans and was efficiently transmitted. Samples have already been sent to London for analysis, and immediate release of initial sequence data would be useful.
Small changes can have dramatic effects when viruses jump species, and the rapid spread of the H1N1 in western Ukraine is clearly cause for concern.
[ link to www.recombinomics.com]
Takes them about a WEEK to get there (if they get there early this week)?
That does not seem right, ESPECIALLY when they have a local office and all.
In defense of WHO, at least they did post this (just found it) -
[link to www.who.int]
Still. |
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gcRebel
User ID: 808493
11/2/2009 4:10 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
its in polish, heres a translation from a translator...
We are afraid, because here, after all, people die. We do not know what to do. Ucieklibyśmy, but we have no where - says Florczuków terrified family from Lvov. Bogdan (33 l.), Galina (29 yr) and their son Ostap (6 l) for several days did not split up with masks on their faces. - I pray that we survived. Most worried about a child, he quickly grabs all the infections - adds Ms Galina. - Luckily for three weeks the son does not have to go to school because it is closed.
Raging virus paralyzed life in Ukraine. People stopped to even contact with family and friends. Talk with relatives and friends only by phone. All now are afraid to even an ordinary cold.
And more and more of their relatives at home niepojące sees signs of a deadly plague. Florczukowie complain that they can not get any drugs, because everything you purchased at a pharmacy. Therefore cure homemade ways: at the moment łykają vitamin C, drink hot milk with honey and garlic.
The latest figures are striking. In Ukraine 185 thousand already sick. people! And influenza caused by virus A/H1N1 and related complications, 53 people have already died! Not only Ukraine is faced with a sudden wave of cases of influenza. Belarus on acute respiratory infections and flu-sick 65 thousand. people and nearly a thousand in the hospitals.
The worst is in the neighboring Polish Lviv. There is suffering more than 69 thousand. people, including almost 26 thousand. children! Lviv streets deserted. On the usually crowded square in front of the opera in the heart of the city there is none.
There are no customers in bars, restaurants, shops. Even in a nearby symbol of democracy - McDonald's, where the queues are usually huge. A few passers-by przemykają quickly to their homes. Most of them have their faces covered with masks.
The Polish government is in talks with the authorities of the European Union to a fatal virus vaccines are available in a free market, such as a vaccine for ordinary flu. Deputy Minister for Health Adam Fronczak says that the government provides for vaccination of Poles - the so-called risk groups - including children and pregnant women. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 761652
11/2/2009 4:13 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
ever since the first time i saw Tymoshenko
with her braided hair crown thing she's got going on, i knew something futuristically creepy was going to happen there.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 808495
11/2/2009 4:14 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
Don't you tinfoil hatters know that spraying aerosols from planes is not technologically feasible? It is downright impossible to atomize chemicals and spray them, so please just chill-lax would ya?
Again: Not possible to spray chemicals. What you are seeing is are "contrails", simple water vapor.
Spraying shit from planes is something your nation's scientists are working feverishly towards, and we want to be able to do it for good (like to get chemicals onto crops and such) but we're not there yet, and when we have that technology working, OF COURSE we will let you know, but until then, stop with the crazy conspiracies!
You are either the dumbest fucking idiot in the world, or you are just a plain old fashioned fucking shill liar.
Try telling your theory to my brother,who was exposed to Agent Orange in Nam. By aerosol.
So shut the fuck up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 806341
You ever stepped foot outside your mama's basement 41? Crop spraying has been going on for years, or do you think those veggies you avoid evey day are lovely wholesome orgainc produce grown by barefoot hippies?
Get real, ffs |
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anonymous
User ID: 808496
11/2/2009 4:15 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
get a clean cloth baby diaper and hang it on the cothes line each day outside ..take each one to a chemish to find out what is being sprayed in your neighborhood.. or shuit the fuck up. |
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Mister Obvious  
Senior Forum Moderator
11/2/2009 4:33 AM
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ever since the first time i saw Tymoshenko
with her braided hair crown thing she's got going on, i knew something futuristically creepy was going to happen there.
Funny you say that...
I forgot what she looked like until you mentioned her hair.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Something is indeed very, very strange about her. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 276792
11/2/2009 4:47 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
Any links to that Moshe dude that was supposedly an Isreali bio weapons scientist that had the standoff with police / FBI in L.A. earlier this summer? Didn't he claim a deadly form of the flu virus was being manufacrued in Ukrain and being prepped for release to create a worldwide pandemic? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 804965
11/2/2009 4:54 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
Just emailed Sky News to ask them if they intend on reporting this. Don't expect I'll get a reply. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 808493
11/2/2009 5:00 AM | | Re: Panic in Ukraine, Authorities deny aircraft are spraying aerosols over cities, Martial Law expected | Quote |
Moshe hasnt been heard from since they released him after his arrest. He was either "sent or let go to Israel" |
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