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Turtles Know  Warning: Turtles Bite User ID: 782401 11/1/2009 8:28 PM
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Avg 747 fuel consumption
23,700Lbs/hour
i guess it would leave a chemtrail!
And every pound of fuel burnt produces about 1.2 pounds of water vapor. That's a lot of contrail!
However, most of the ice in a persistent contrail actually comes from the environment as the contrail grows and spreads out.
Search for "ice-supersaturation".
Learn something about contrails.
Maybe then complain about so called chemtrails. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11632
And in the 40+ years I've been here, I've seen contrails disappearing right behind a plane - watched that for the first 20 years and then suddenly, "contrails" obscure the entire sky.
But as the OP said, signs, we see them or we don't. We are appeased by those we perceive know more than us or we trust ourselves.
Don't much matter to me what you think - I know what I see and I saw the change. No drummer out there is scared of you, Turtles.
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Turtles Know  Warning: Turtles Bite User ID: 782401 11/1/2009 8:31 PM
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If they have always been there, why had I not seen it?
Mainly because you are an agenda driven lunatic, but hey.
Everyone needs a hobby, eh?
Oh, wow. You're really reaching huh? I'm agenda driven, lol - geez if only I had the energy and motivation.
You put enough energy into replying.
You proved my point.
Nineteen words, plus a smilie is not really a lot of energy, sweetie - check out the debunkers, they gots lots of energy to put into their agenda, I'm just saying.
You are the only one pushing an agenda.
You prove my point with each post.
You are so far out of your ken, it's almost sad.
But funny as fuck
I'm just saying.  Quoting: Anonymous Coward 666636
You're not too bright, huh? I'm posting on my own thread, therefore in your tiny mind or paycheck, I'm pushing an agenda.
I'm expressing an opinion, but perhaps they don't teach the difference in shill school. Sucks for you. No drummer out there is scared of you, Turtles.
AC 586763
A head full of dirt is what makes you enchanting, especially when you till it up for planting. [link to myspace.com]
They say the meek inherit the earth, but who, then, gets the kingdom?
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Ricfly52  User ID: 272605 11/1/2009 8:33 PM
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Even my old self cannot prove or dis-prove chemtrails. But I agree, when I was a kid, and a young adult I didn't see what I see now. I spend about 3/4 of my life outside.
Yes the skies are much different these days.
I meant chem, not con.
Yeah, I know, Ricfly, but we're old, the youngens have never seen anything different and damn, by the next generation - those will just be clouds. It's a weird critter, isn't it?
Wow good obsevation, and kinda scary I might add.
Yeah, my dad, who was an intelligent, yet scary man, lol, used to say it only took 3 generations to change the thinking of the people. We're two generations in ... won't be long now.
Just think, the kids of today will never know a crystal clear sky with real clouds, they'll just know the funk we call clouds now.
You're right, it is scary, but it is what it is. Quoting: Turtles Know
Well I might add, that it is worse than that.
We are soon looking at a generation, that doesn't know what a hike, or camping, or fishing is. These things will be un-reachable from the most of the masses. Only the elite will see and do these things. That is if the elite doesn't totally destroy this planet with war, and much more frightening means.
Yes chemtrails are very important to know about, but it is the sick power elite who need to be disrupted to stop not only chemtrails, but total nuclear destruction.
Happy Hallows after eve all.
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Turtles Know  Warning: Turtles Bite User ID: 782401 11/1/2009 8:34 PM
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It always intrigued me that we didn't see them until we did. Now we hear they go back at least a decade or more, but why didn't we notice? It's like being called - hey, look up, but internally - perhaps that quiet voice.
I remember walking about and wanting to yell, look up!!
You're making some good points! I remember thinking those things too.
Yeah, it's weird - I remember back in the day responding to a couple Meteorologist ( or as hubby says - Meaty Urologist, lol) websites and watching the trolls come out - I was a newbie and quite confused! I was being attacked for asking a simple question.
I also was watching a movie from 1988 on Hulu recently and noticing the lines in the sky and thought - They added that shit! Normalizing for the kiddies. Hell, they're teaching it in class now, pick up a science text book from a forth grader - damn ** shakes head**
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"I also was watching a movie from 1988 on Hulu recently and noticing the lines in the sky and thought - They added that shit! Normalizing for the kiddies."
As someone who's been following this since the beginning, I assure you... You have NO IDEA just how far the conditioning process has gone.
Video games, postal stamps, newspaper, magazine, and television ads, childrens books, manipulated respiratory death statistics by the CDC, adjusted satellite imagery for the mainstream news weather reports, GREATLY reduced "optimal visibility" (down from 40 miles to 10 miles) by the FAA, etc... etc... etc...
Yeah... FUCK YOU, The Guy, Kuntz, and Shill House. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 808173
Yeah, I've noticed and my friend, who is a mortician said he's never seen the phrase "failure to thrive" on death certificates, but he's seeing it a lot now. No drummer out there is scared of you, Turtles.
AC 586763
A head full of dirt is what makes you enchanting, especially when you till it up for planting. [link to myspace.com]
They say the meek inherit the earth, but who, then, gets the kingdom?
[link to turtlesvoice.blogspot.com] |
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Turtles Know  Warning: Turtles Bite User ID: 782401 11/1/2009 8:37 PM
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Even my old self cannot prove or dis-prove chemtrails. But I agree, when I was a kid, and a young adult I didn't see what I see now. I spend about 3/4 of my life outside.
Yes the skies are much different these days.
I meant chem, not con.
Yeah, I know, Ricfly, but we're old, the youngens have never seen anything different and damn, by the next generation - those will just be clouds. It's a weird critter, isn't it?
Wow good obsevation, and kinda scary I might add.
Yeah, my dad, who was an intelligent, yet scary man, lol, used to say it only took 3 generations to change the thinking of the people. We're two generations in ... won't be long now.
Just think, the kids of today will never know a crystal clear sky with real clouds, they'll just know the funk we call clouds now.
You're right, it is scary, but it is what it is.
Well I might add, that it is worse than that.
We are soon looking at a generation, that doesn't know what a hike, or camping, or fishing is. These things will be un-reachable from the most of the masses. Only the elite will see and do these things. That is if the elite doesn't totally destroy this planet with war, and much more frightening means.
Yes chemtrails are very important to know about, but it is the sick power elite who need to be disrupted to stop not only chemtrails, but total nuclear destruction.
Happy Hallows after eve all. Quoting: Ricfly52
Excellent point!
Hell most kids just know the virtual world, so how could the real thing compare?
If we look at a butterfly on a screen is it the same as actually watching one? For this generation, yes.
It's a sad state. Hell, most kids don't even know how to plant a seed, sew a hem or cook a meal without a microwave  No drummer out there is scared of you, Turtles.
AC 586763
A head full of dirt is what makes you enchanting, especially when you till it up for planting. [link to myspace.com]
They say the meek inherit the earth, but who, then, gets the kingdom?
[link to turtlesvoice.blogspot.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 749315 11/1/2009 8:49 PM | | Re: The Thing About Chemtrails - Contrails ... | Quote | Hell I don't like to let my kid be out in that crap.
Sorry. |
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TooEasyForTheElites User ID: 808266 11/1/2009 8:58 PM | | Re: The Thing About Chemtrails - Contrails ... | Quote | Very good points. The Elite's are changing our reality over generations. It's only taken a few hundred years to go from horse back and single lead shot to Lockheed Martin machines that can pin point you on the ground from 4kms up in the sky and blow you into pieces.
Imagine in just another 50 years where they will be.
I'm only several decades old and I can clearly remember that in the 1980's passenger jets used to leave a short trail and then dissapear. I remember it as clear as crystal.
Now the shit hovers for hours and expands sideways covering the entire sky.
Those who outright want to disbelieve chemtrails are only 1 of 2. shills, or deaf dumb and blind naive tards. |
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Turtles Know  Warning: Turtles Bite User ID: 782401 11/1/2009 9:08 PM
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Very good points. The Elite's are changing our reality over generations. It's only taken a few hundred years to go from horse back and single lead shot to Lockheed Martin machines that can pin point you on the ground from 4kms up in the sky and blow you into pieces.
Imagine in just another 50 years where they will be.
I'm only several decades old and I can clearly remember that in the 1980's passenger jets used to leave a short trail and then dissapear. I remember it as clear as crystal.
Now the shit hovers for hours and expands sideways covering the entire sky.
Those who outright want to disbelieve chemtrails are only 1 of 2. shills, or deaf dumb and blind naive tards. Quoting: TooEasyForTheElites 808266
 No drummer out there is scared of you, Turtles.
AC 586763
A head full of dirt is what makes you enchanting, especially when you till it up for planting. [link to myspace.com]
They say the meek inherit the earth, but who, then, gets the kingdom?
[link to turtlesvoice.blogspot.com] |
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mr...bojangles User ID: 807929 11/1/2009 9:10 PM | | Re: The Thing About Chemtrails - Contrails ... | Quote | I started studying ufo`s in 1968 as a kid in elementary school....
as a young man my favorite pastime was to go to bookstores and browse books on metaphysics and ufo`s....
in one particualr ufo magazine there would be ads at the end selling books....
one book stood out from the rest....
the excalibur briefing....
it wasn`t until 1987 that i actually found it in a bookstore and immediately bought it...
i began studying it for the next three year...
it is there that chemtrails were revealed and explained in a scientific manner....
although the book reads like science fiction...
it is basically science fact.....
but not known in the mainstream media....
needless to say i never thought i would see a chemtrail in the sky....
until 2002....
when a town in the southwest i was visiting was crissed crossed with chemtrails....
like a chessboard....
planes don`t do that....
never have...until that fateful day...
i began my investigations 24/7....
and got some answers for myself....
anyone who doesn`t beleive in chemtrails is blind as a bat....
there is no middle ground here....
[link to www.cheniere.org]
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Turtles Know  Warning: Turtles Bite User ID: 782401 11/1/2009 9:18 PM
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I started studying ufo`s in 1968 as a kid in elementary school....
as a young man my favorite pastime was to go to bookstores and browse books on metaphysics and ufo`s....
in one particualr ufo magazine there would be ads at the end selling books....
one book stood out from the rest....
the excalibuir briefing....
it wasn`t until 1987 that i actually found it in a bookstore and immediately bought it...
i began studying it for the neat three year...
it is there that chemtrails were revelaed and explained in a scientific manner....
although the book reads like science ficition...
it is basically science fact.....
but not known in the mainstream media....
needless to say i never thought i would see a chemtrail in the sky....
until 2002....
when a town in the southwest i was visiting was crissed crossed with chemtrails....
like a chessboard....
planes don`t do that....
never have...until that fateful day...
i began my investigations 24/7....
and got some answers for myself....
anyone who doesn`t beleive in chemtrails is blind as a bat....
there is no middle ground here....
[ link to www.cheniere.org] Quoting: mr...bojangles
Thanks  No drummer out there is scared of you, Turtles.
AC 586763
A head full of dirt is what makes you enchanting, especially when you till it up for planting. [link to myspace.com]
They say the meek inherit the earth, but who, then, gets the kingdom?
[link to turtlesvoice.blogspot.com] |
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Jesus N Pals User ID: 648948 11/1/2009 9:19 PM | | Re: The Thing About Chemtrails - Contrails ... | Quote |
...Is I didn't see them until I did. I was a photographer - I got paid for taking photos of people, but I loved landscapes and would spend my weekends exploring and shooting.
Then I saw my first chemtrail in 2005 - why hadn't I noticed them earlier? I went through boxes of photos - 20 years of photos, looking in the sky and didn't see a one until I saw a photo from York Beach in Maine in 2001.
If they have always been there, why had I not seen it?
Of course on seeing it, it felt like falling into a whole other world.
Beyond the fighting about whether they exist or not, or whether they have always existed - is the subtle concept of something occurring that I had not seen. I've always been a gardener, a hiker, a camper - an outdoor person - how could I have not seen it?
So while the debate rages on endlessly - I'll refer to the ancients that have warned of a day when we would see signs, webs and ribbons in the skies. Quoting: Turtles Know
untill you fools stop using the word CHEMTRAILS, no one will ever take u seriously
can people use their minds????????????????? |
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Turtles Know  Warning: Turtles Bite User ID: 782401 11/1/2009 9:27 PM
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...Is I didn't see them until I did. I was a photographer - I got paid for taking photos of people, but I loved landscapes and would spend my weekends exploring and shooting.
Then I saw my first chemtrail in 2005 - why hadn't I noticed them earlier? I went through boxes of photos - 20 years of photos, looking in the sky and didn't see a one until I saw a photo from York Beach in Maine in 2001.
If they have always been there, why had I not seen it?
Of course on seeing it, it felt like falling into a whole other world.
Beyond the fighting about whether they exist or not, or whether they have always existed - is the subtle concept of something occurring that I had not seen. I've always been a gardener, a hiker, a camper - an outdoor person - how could I have not seen it?
So while the debate rages on endlessly - I'll refer to the ancients that have warned of a day when we would see signs, webs and ribbons in the skies.
untill you fools stop using the word CHEMTRAILS, no one will ever take u seriously
can people use their minds????????????????? Quoting: Jesus N Pals
Why does it matter the name, the defect is still the same. Or do we just get mired down in semantics? I know, that's pretty popular. No drummer out there is scared of you, Turtles.
AC 586763
A head full of dirt is what makes you enchanting, especially when you till it up for planting. [link to myspace.com]
They say the meek inherit the earth, but who, then, gets the kingdom?
[link to turtlesvoice.blogspot.com] |
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TexLittlefield  User ID: 571193 11/2/2009 12:27 AM
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Avg 747 fuel consumption
23,700Lbs/hour
i guess it would leave a chemtrail! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 807812
[link to www.orbwar.com]
What makes you think aircraft do it ?
We expect to see airplanes in the sky....so that's what the holograms are made to look like.
Talk about "the spiritual nature of chemtrails" . LOL
Yep :-)
  
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mr...bojangles User ID: 807929 11/2/2009 12:33 AM | | Re: The Thing About Chemtrails - Contrails ... | Quote |
...Is I didn't see them until I did. I was a photographer - I got paid for taking photos of people, but I loved landscapes and would spend my weekends exploring and shooting.
Then I saw my first chemtrail in 2005 - why hadn't I noticed them earlier? I went through boxes of photos - 20 years of photos, looking in the sky and didn't see a one until I saw a photo from York Beach in Maine in 2001.
If they have always been there, why had I not seen it?
Of course on seeing it, it felt like falling into a whole other world.
Beyond the fighting about whether they exist or not, or whether they have always existed - is the subtle concept of something occurring that I had not seen. I've always been a gardener, a hiker, a camper - an outdoor person - how could I have not seen it?
So while the debate rages on endlessly - I'll refer to the ancients that have warned of a day when we would see signs, webs and ribbons in the skies.
untill you fools stop using the word CHEMTRAILS, no one will ever take u seriously
can people use their minds????????????????? Quoting: Jesus N Pals
taken seriously?
who cares.....
it`s too late to be taken serious....
they are culling the masses....
you either take care of your health or your don`t
there are no second opportunities....
this is the kill shot....
by the time people start to realize what is going on.....
it will be too late....
the program is in its final stage.....
that is what people don`t seem to realize...
there is nothing people can do to stop them.....
this program is being implemented by the good ol u.s. air force....
under black ops.....
do you have any idea what that means?
serious?
dude please.....
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mr...bojangles User ID: 807929 11/2/2009 12:36 AM | | Re: The Thing About Chemtrails - Contrails ... | Quote | How are the donuts at the CIA?-quote.
ACE! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 806723 11/2/2009 12:36 AM | | Re: The Thing About Chemtrails - Contrails ... | Quote | oh thanks for that tex. |
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mr...bojangles User ID: 807929 11/2/2009 12:37 AM | | Re: The Thing About Chemtrails - Contrails ... | Quote |
There are no such things as chemtrails.
The only people who believe in them are the naive and gullible.
NO SMART PERSON really believes in them. The ones who say they do are liars, trying only to mislead you for their own agendas.
Proof that you are stupid is that I have to keep telling you this and you still don't get it. Quoting: Government Shill 596199
typical denial.....
they will be the first to get culled.... |
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mr...bojangles User ID: 807929 11/2/2009 12:49 AM | | Re: The Thing About Chemtrails - Contrails ... | Quote | Here is a video for everyone.....
listen to what the guy is saying.....
this is the bottom line....
[link to www.disclose.tv] |
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mr...bojangles User ID: 807929 11/2/2009 12:55 AM | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 806723 11/2/2009 12:55 AM | | Re: The Thing About Chemtrails - Contrails ... | Quote |
There are no such things as chemtrails.
The only people who believe in them are the naive and gullible.
NO SMART PERSON really believes in them. The ones who say they do are liars, trying only to mislead you for their own agendas.
Proof that you are stupid is that I have to keep telling you this and you still don't get it.
typical denial.....
they will be the first to get culled.... Quoting: mr...bojangles
That was a paid debunker/shill/psy ops agent. He was posting that same text in other chemtrail threads. One of the one's who "keeps telling you this".... as in full time job, day after day, year after year hanging around chemtrail threads driving the curious away. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 806723 11/2/2009 12:59 AM | | Re: The Thing About Chemtrails - Contrails ... | Quote |
Oh thank you. Interesting. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 807062 11/2/2009 1:00 AM | | Re: The Thing About Chemtrails - Contrails ... | Quote | There are no such things as 'chemtrails.'
They are called contrails.  |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 806723 11/2/2009 1:08 AM | | Re: The Thing About Chemtrails - Contrails ... | Quote | shills work around the clock on this subject. Big stuff. This link to the Power Hour radio show is great. thanks again. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 666636 11/2/2009 6:05 AM | | Re: The Thing About Chemtrails - Contrails ... | Quote |
There are no such things as 'chemtrails.'
They are called contrails.  Quoting: Anonymous Coward 807062
I keep begging stupid people not to breed, but they go on spewing out more chemtards daily. |
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mr...bojangles User ID: 808736 11/2/2009 12:48 PM | |
mr...bojangles User ID: 808736 11/2/2009 12:50 PM | |
Wake Up User ID: 533327 11/2/2009 1:02 PM | | Re: The Thing About Chemtrails - Contrails ... | Quote |
...Is I didn't see them until I did. I was a photographer - I got paid for taking photos of people, but I loved landscapes and would spend my weekends exploring and shooting.
Then I saw my first chemtrail in 2005 - why hadn't I noticed them earlier? I went through boxes of photos - 20 years of photos, looking in the sky and didn't see a one until I saw a photo from York Beach in Maine in 2001.
If they have always been there, why had I not seen it?
Of course on seeing it, it felt like falling into a whole other world.
Beyond the fighting about whether they exist or not, or whether they have always existed - is the subtle concept of something occurring that I had not seen. I've always been a gardener, a hiker, a camper - an outdoor person - how could I have not seen it?
So while the debate rages on endlessly - I'll refer to the ancients that have warned of a day when we would see signs, webs and ribbons in the skies.
untill you fools stop using the word CHEMTRAILS, no one will ever take u seriously
can people use their minds?????????????????
taken seriously?
who cares.....
it`s too late to be taken serious....
they are culling the masses....
you either take care of your health or your don`t
there are no second opportunities....
this is the kill shot....
by the time people start to realize what is going on.....
it will be too late....
the program is in its final stage.....
that is what people don`t seem to realize...
there is nothing people can do to stop them.....
this program is being implemented by the good ol u.s. air force....
under black ops.....
do you have any idea what that means?
serious?
dude please..... Quoting: mr...bojangles
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mr...bojangles User ID: 808736 11/2/2009 1:03 PM | | Re: The Thing About Chemtrails - Contrails ... | Quote | bump....
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Turtles Know  Warning: Turtles Bite User ID: 782401 11/2/2009 7:52 PM
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Avg 747 fuel consumption
23,700Lbs/hour
i guess it would leave a chemtrail!
[ link to www.orbwar.com]
What makes you think aircraft do it ?
We expect to see airplanes in the sky....so that's what the holograms are made to look like.
Talk about "the spiritual nature of chemtrails" . LOL
Yep :-)
Quoting: TexLittlefield
Good site. Tex  No drummer out there is scared of you, Turtles.
AC 586763
A head full of dirt is what makes you enchanting, especially when you till it up for planting. [link to myspace.com]
They say the meek inherit the earth, but who, then, gets the kingdom?
[link to turtlesvoice.blogspot.com] |
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