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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 809671
11/3/2009 6:00 PM | | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
"It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!"
It's okay, I know Jesus...)
And I know that you don't, but hey claim what you will, I for one am tired of battling you christians!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Nah, HT, nothing wrong with exchanging ideas...)))
I'm surprised you didn't ask me to prove it, you know I can't, and besides, who am I to speak for Jesus??
lol...I know you can't prove it, thanks for saying so, who are any of us to speak for another, most can't even speak for themselves!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Hi HardTruth,
Back at you...))
You are controversial, but open minded. |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
11/3/2009 6:01 PM | | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
We see through your trickery Hardtruth . There was no Hebrew when Adam was alive.
The Sumerians were, but you guys dismiss their material, and the Hebrews were the original Irish druids!!
But noooo, lol...let the gypsies steal the language, manipulate it, slap their label on it, claim to be the chosen race, and you guys eat it up!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Pure theory. You were not there. You have no way of proving a word of your theory.
"If it thinks it knows all and has all the answers, it is a crock"
And you were not their at the re-creation of modern day man either!!
We can however look at ALL the ancient texts to get a better understanding of what exactly went down, this is something you christians flat out refuse to do!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! Quoting: HardTruth
Hey bro, I am a Christian...lol "all you Christians. lol""
I don't refuse to do my homework. lol...
How about "most Christians" lol..
I am still learning too! lol |
| Uh, OK
User ID: 385444
11/3/2009 6:02 PM | | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
Ahh...
HT, the king of cut and paste.
Mostly a Lie:
>>The Hebrew word for God is el; the plural is elohim, gods.<<
There is a emall amount of truth to what is said but as usual in Hard Truth's posts, he also tells you half truths. Which is of course a nice way of saying 'lie'.
H430
'ĕlôhı̂ym
el-o-heem'
Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative:
H433
'ĕlôahh 'ĕlôahh
el-o'-ah, el-o'-ah
(The second form is rare); probably prolonged (emphatically) from H410; a deity or the deity: - God
H410
'êl
ale
Shortened from H352; strength; as adjective mighty; especially the Almighty: - God
So what it really means is GOD (the ONE diety) and His magistrates (or angels.
NOT gods as HT would have you believe.
And this is how Hard Truth operates - half truths and lies.
Go back to school grasshopper, and I don't lie!!
Christians, Meet The ELOHIM, YHVH's Equals Of The Ancient World, The Men Of Name!!
[ link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
You are both a liar and a sinner, don't continue to deceive yourself. You haven't a clue as to what is about to happen. That is because you are an outsider. An outsider who wishes he were an insider, so you adopt the lies of your Nephilim pupetmasters, and believe hat it is truth...What a fool.
"But every man's work is tried by fire..." Soon your pupetmasters will be taken out, harvested, then your false "comic book religion" will also be exposed as the ruse that it is.
Then anybody who has adopted this religion will be hunted down so that all remaining bit of their poison can be eliminated from the Earth.
That is when you will be humbled; when you experience REAL persecution. It is so sad that you have to experience such terrible things to bring you out of the darkness, but mark my words...all that I have said today will come to pass.
So you have all the answers? What truths do you know? Please enlighten us all. |
| R\\//T
User ID: 658677
11/3/2009 6:03 PM | | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
"It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!"
It's okay, I know Jesus...)
And I know that you don't, but hey claim what you will, I for one am tired of battling you christians!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Nah, HT, nothing wrong with exchanging ideas...)))
I'm surprised you didn't ask me to prove it, you know I can't, and besides, who am I to speak for Jesus??
lol...I know you can't prove it, thanks for saying so, who are any of us to speak for another, most can't even speak for themselves!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Hi HardTruth,
Back at you...))
You are controversial, but open minded.
Yea his Copy and Paste is Second to None! |
| HardTruth 
User ID: 809517
11/3/2009 6:08 PM
 | | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
Yeah, it does suck.
But just because you do know some of these words, doesn't mean you don't twist things to your viewpoint either.
He doesn't know squat, just copy and paste. He probably didn't even read the whole thing himself ;)
Yes I read it, checked it, and double checked it, verified and stamped as a HardTruth!!
And I absolutely know more truth's than you ignorant christians!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Uhh..NO you don't. And you absolutely DO not check - if you did you would know better.
Ahh...
HT, the king of cut and paste.
Mostly a Lie:
>>The Hebrew word for God is el; the plural is elohim, gods.<<
There is a emall amount of truth to what is said but as usual in Hard Truth's posts, he also tells you half truths. Which is of course a nice way of saying 'lie'.
H430
'ĕlôhı̂ym
el-o-heem'
Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative:
H433
'ĕlôahh 'ĕlôahh
el-o'-ah, el-o'-ah
(The second form is rare); probably prolonged (emphatically) from H410; a deity or the deity: - God
H410
'êl
ale
Shortened from H352; strength; as adjective mighty; especially the Almighty: - God
So what it really means is GOD (the ONE diety) and His magistrates (or angels.
NOT gods as HT would have you believe.
And this is how Hard Truth operates - half truths and lies.
Then your bible is in error?
Let US (plural) make man in OUR (plural) image (Gen 1: 26)
Let US (plural) go down, and there confound their language (Gen 11:7)
God standeth in the CONGREGATION (plural, the other Elohim) of the mighty (plural); he judgeth among the gods. (Plural) (Psalms 82:1)
Who were the 1/3 that rebelled grasshopper, it wasn't the angels (messengers)?
The Babylonian Talmudic texts list the names of the 200 that fell, lets see 1/3 = 200, that would make it originally 600 Elohim!!
These 200 took wives....
The benei Elohim saw the daughters of Adam, that they were fit extensions. And they took wives for themselves from all those that they chose...
The Nephelim were in the earth in those days, and even afterwards when the benei Elohim came in to the daughters of Adam, and they bore to them—they were Powerful Ones which existed from ancient times, the men of name. (Gen. 6:2,4) Interlinear Hebrew Bible
I am not wrong!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Twist and turn - twist and turn - are you really that ignorant? All that has NOTHING to do with the word (where it was used) in question. - el-o-heem' (GOD and the angels)
and YOU ARE STILL WRONG.
What the hell is it going to take, a ton of bricks?
Your defending the scriptures of the same evil ones you proclaim to be against, who's the retard here?
It sure isn't me!!
You're bible is pushed on the world by those who claim to be of the bloodline of Poseidon, the christians Satan!!
Pushed on the world by Charlemagne himself, one of the nephilim who murdered thousands with his army against those who refused your filthy erroneous bible!!
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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Last Edited by HardTruth on 11/3/2009 at 6:12 PM |
| Uh, OK
User ID: 385444
11/3/2009 6:08 PM | | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
We see through your trickery Hardtruth . There was no Hebrew when Adam was alive.
The Sumerians were, but you guys dismiss their material, and the Hebrews were the original Irish druids!!
But noooo, lol...let the gypsies steal the language, manipulate it, slap their label on it, claim to be the chosen race, and you guys eat it up!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Pure theory. You were not there. You have no way of proving a word of your theory.
"If it thinks it knows all and has all the answers, it is a crock"
And you were not their at the re-creation of modern day man either!!
We can however look at ALL the ancient texts to get a better understanding of what exactly went down, this is something you christians flat out refuse to do!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! Quoting: HardTruth
What is your definition of Christian? You called me that, what are you calling me, in your own words? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 754324
11/3/2009 6:11 PM | | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
Little Star said:
>>He is the pilot of his ship, and if he crashes upon the rocks, that is his business, not mine. (take no offence HT, just me trying to express myself).<<
Yes he pilots his ship but he also tries to pilot ships for others also.
HT does not share mistakes. - He will not EVER acknowledge that he evens makes them, not even when shown.
If he crashes up on the rocks - fine but it is not right that he tries to take others with him.
That is a true mark of satan's own. |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
11/3/2009 6:12 PM | | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
Quote from Hard Turd:
"It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!"
But I DO have all of those languages right at my fingertips. And I am glad too, as it has gone a long way towards clearing up any apparent "contradictions" or "discrepancies" in the bible.
Besides... I am quite comfortable with the fact that you reject Christ, and that I will no longer have to see your incessant BS an longer, on the new earth.
If ever there were anyone who is left without excuse, it would be you. Ironically, YOUR knee will bow too, after it is too late.
No skin off my back.
Wow... do you call yourself a Christian? Just curious, because that's not a Christlike attitude at all. It's as if you can't wait for HT to burn in Hell. You should care about your fellow man, lost or not. You need to check yourself if you claim Christianity. If not, carry on I suppose.
Alot of the material in the Bible is also stern, you need to be corrected. In some cases if you were knowingly bringing idolatry into the camp for a reason to bring disorder among Gods people you would be thrown out. Quoting: R\\//T 658677
There are many errors in the King James bible and the 1611 scribes told us so in an appendix in the front of the first King James translation. They said to take each word back to its prime root to fully understand. They even said they had to substitute words and added words so the reader of OLD English could understand. They did the best they could.
I will give you the same example which agrees with Hardtruth's presentation of the beginning.
Gen. 1:2 the word void was put into place of the word tohu va bohu....,,, which means totally destroyed.
Most Christians will blast anyone that presents that, but it is in the original manuscripts and I am only posting what I know is there and can be read by anyone who takes the time to read it.
God destroyed this whole planet completely once before! Even the newer King James validates that without anyone having to learn Hebrew. (Boy will I get a blasting now.)
So, as I said, I respect Hardtruth, because of one thing, that is, he is smart enough to do his own homework and learn for himself.
Anyway, that is my point. Again, I am not out to offend anyone of what they think is truth or what they have heard from their pastor, aka traditions of men.
I will not blast anyone who says they love Satan. I will just laugh and thank God I am sealed and have the victory. |
| HardTruth
User ID: 809517
11/3/2009 6:13 PM
| | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
We see through your trickery Hardtruth . There was no Hebrew when Adam was alive.
The Sumerians were, but you guys dismiss their material, and the Hebrews were the original Irish druids!!
But noooo, lol...let the gypsies steal the language, manipulate it, slap their label on it, claim to be the chosen race, and you guys eat it up!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Pure theory. You were not there. You have no way of proving a word of your theory.
"If it thinks it knows all and has all the answers, it is a crock"
And you were not their at the re-creation of modern day man either!!
We can however look at ALL the ancient texts to get a better understanding of what exactly went down, this is something you christians flat out refuse to do!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Hey bro, I am a Christian...lol "all you Christians. lol""
I don't refuse to do my homework. lol...
How about "most Christians" lol..
I am still learning too! lol Quoting: Little Star
You are of course correct, lol...My apologies!!
*Most christians*
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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 754324
11/3/2009 6:18 PM | | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
Yeah, it does suck.
But just because you do know some of these words, doesn't mean you don't twist things to your viewpoint either.
He doesn't know squat, just copy and paste. He probably didn't even read the whole thing himself ;)
Yes I read it, checked it, and double checked it, verified and stamped as a HardTruth!!
And I absolutely know more truth's than you ignorant christians!!
:teeeehee:
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Uhh..NO you don't. And you absolutely DO not check - if you did you would know better.
Ahh...
HT, the king of cut and paste.
Mostly a Lie:
>>The Hebrew word for God is el; the plural is elohim, gods.<<
There is a emall amount of truth to what is said but as usual in Hard Truth's posts, he also tells you half truths. Which is of course a nice way of saying 'lie'.
H430
'ĕlôhı̂ym
el-o-heem'
Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative:
H433
'ĕlôahh 'ĕlôahh
el-o'-ah, el-o'-ah
(The second form is rare); probably prolonged (emphatically) from H410; a deity or the deity: - God
H410
'êl
ale
Shortened from H352; strength; as adjective mighty; especially the Almighty: - God
So what it really means is GOD (the ONE diety) and His magistrates (or angels.
NOT gods as HT would have you believe.
And this is how Hard Truth operates - half truths and lies.
Then your bible is in error?
Let US (plural) make man in OUR (plural) image (Gen 1: 26)
Let US (plural) go down, and there confound their language (Gen 11:7)
God standeth in the CONGREGATION (plural, the other Elohim) of the mighty (plural); he judgeth among the gods. (Plural) (Psalms 82:1)
Who were the 1/3 that rebelled grasshopper, it wasn't the angels (messengers)?
The Babylonian Talmudic texts list the names of the 200 that fell, lets see 1/3 = 200, that would make it originally 600 Elohim!!
These 200 took wives....
The benei Elohim saw the daughters of Adam, that they were fit extensions. And they took wives for themselves from all those that they chose...
The Nephelim were in the earth in those days, and even afterwards when the benei Elohim came in to the daughters of Adam, and they bore to them—they were Powerful Ones which existed from ancient times, the men of name. (Gen. 6:2,4) Interlinear Hebrew Bible
I am not wrong!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Twist and turn - twist and turn - are you really that ignorant? All that has NOTHING to do with the word (where it was used) in question. - el-o-heem' (GOD and the angels)
and YOU ARE STILL WRONG.
What the hell is it going to take, a ton of bricks?
Your defending the scriptures of the same evil ones you proclaim to be against, who's the retard here?
It sure isn't me!!
You're bible is pushed on the world by those who claim to be of the bloodline of Poseidon, the christians Satan!!
Pushed on the world by Charlemagne himself, one of the nephilim who murdered thousands with his army against those who refused your filthy errouous bible!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Yes, when all else fails, Hard Truth turns to name calling and more lies.
The Bible will give you all answers to all questions but you will never 'get' that.
You are so far gone - I can barely see you anymore. I almost feel sorry for you.
I will not argue with you anymore but I will always point out when you lie.
As one other poster said - you can't argue with a lunatic. |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
11/3/2009 6:18 PM | | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
Little Star said:
>>He is the pilot of his ship, and if he crashes upon the rocks, that is his business, not mine. (take no offence HT, just me trying to express myself).<<
Yes he pilots his ship but he also tries to pilot ships for others also.
HT does not share mistakes. - He will not EVER acknowledge that he evens makes them, not even when shown.
If he crashes up on the rocks - fine but it is not right that he tries to take others with him.
That is a true mark of satan's own. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754324
Your question is an open ended question about the 'true mark of Satan's own'.
If I was to ask you who really put Christ on the cross, would you know who they were? I am sure you can point to scripture and say "see it says Jews right here".
And in the King James, it does say Jews.. lol
Christ pointed to your enemy and the seed of Satan. Do you know who they are?
Christ told you in Mat. 23:all who they are, and they rule the world today. ( Note: I don't think Hardtruth rules the world today,,,lol)
You will find the real enemy of God in 1 Chron. 2:55.. they are called "Kenites" and yes they are alive and protect their seed line very carefully today. They will even inner marry to keep it pure blood of Satan.
Again, I do not agree with Hardtruth all the time. You have seen how I presented my info so you, he and anyone else can see it. If anyone can prove that what I posted was incorrect, fine, but that does not make me a seed of Satan. |
| HardTruth
User ID: 809517
11/3/2009 6:22 PM
| | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
Twist and turn - twist and turn - are you really that ignorant? All that has NOTHING to do with the word (where it was used) in question. - el-o-heem' (GOD and the angels)
and YOU ARE STILL WRONG. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754324
Youre the one twisting...lol
El = god
Elohim = gods
Malchi/malachi = angels = messengers
Different words grasshopper for angels and gods...lol!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! |
| Little Star
User ID: 687974
11/3/2009 6:22 PM | | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
We see through your trickery Hardtruth . There was no Hebrew when Adam was alive.
The Sumerians were, but you guys dismiss their material, and the Hebrews were the original Irish druids!!
But noooo, lol...let the gypsies steal the language, manipulate it, slap their label on it, claim to be the chosen race, and you guys eat it up!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Pure theory. You were not there. You have no way of proving a word of your theory.
"If it thinks it knows all and has all the answers, it is a crock"
And you were not their at the re-creation of modern day man either!!
We can however look at ALL the ancient texts to get a better understanding of what exactly went down, this is something you christians flat out refuse to do!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Hey bro, I am a Christian...lol "all you Christians. lol""
I don't refuse to do my homework. lol...
How about "most Christians" lol..
I am still learning too! lol
You are of course correct, lol...My apologies!!
*Most christians*
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! Quoting: HardTruth
Thanks bro! I understand what you are doing, most Christians will not, but hey, we can still laugh and have fun presenting info that we have learned. Each persons quest is their personal search. Some like deeper knowledge, others want milk and cookies.. lol
Thanks again bro!
PS> You know what is so funny HT. Because I respect your personal quest, and others see that I give you respect, I get blasted too because I do. Just can't please everyone I guess. lol |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 754324
11/3/2009 6:25 PM | | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
Little Star said:
>>He is the pilot of his ship, and if he crashes upon the rocks, that is his business, not mine. (take no offence HT, just me trying to express myself).<<
Yes he pilots his ship but he also tries to pilot ships for others also.
HT does not share mistakes. - He will not EVER acknowledge that he evens makes them, not even when shown.
If he crashes up on the rocks - fine but it is not right that he tries to take others with him.
That is a true mark of satan's own.
Your question is an open ended question about the 'true mark of Satan's own'.
If I was to ask you who really put Christ on the cross, would you know who they were? I am sure you can point to scripture and say "see it says Jews right here".
And in the King James, it does say Jews.. lol
Christ pointed to your enemy and the seed of Satan. Do you know who they are?
Christ told you in Mat. 23:all who they are, and they rule the world today. ( Note: I don't think Hardtruth rules the world today,,,lol)
You will find the real enemy of God in 1 Chron. 2:55.. they are called "Kenites" and yes they are alive and protect their seed line very carefully today. They will even inner marry to keep it pure blood of Satan.
Again, I do not agree with Hardtruth all the time. You have seen how I presented my info so you, he and anyone else can see it. If anyone can prove that what I posted was incorrect, fine, but that does not make me a seed of Satan. Quoting: Little Star
LS
I was saying that HT was a seed of satan - not you. Sorry if I was not clear.
Yes i know well who the Kenites are.
cg |
| HardTruth
User ID: 809517
11/3/2009 6:29 PM
| | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
We see through your trickery Hardtruth . There was no Hebrew when Adam was alive.
The Sumerians were, but you guys dismiss their material, and the Hebrews were the original Irish druids!!
But noooo, lol...let the gypsies steal the language, manipulate it, slap their label on it, claim to be the chosen race, and you guys eat it up!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Pure theory. You were not there. You have no way of proving a word of your theory.
"If it thinks it knows all and has all the answers, it is a crock"
And you were not their at the re-creation of modern day man either!!
We can however look at ALL the ancient texts to get a better understanding of what exactly went down, this is something you christians flat out refuse to do!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Hey bro, I am a Christian...lol "all you Christians. lol""
I don't refuse to do my homework. lol...
How about "most Christians" lol..
I am still learning too! lol
You are of course correct, lol...My apologies!!
*Most christians*
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Thanks bro! I understand what you are doing, most Christians will not, but hey, we can still laugh and have fun presenting info that we have learned. Each persons quest is their personal search. Some like deeper knowledge, others want milk and cookies.. lol
Thanks again bro!
PS> You know what is so funny HT. Because I respect your personal quest, and others see that I give you respect, I get blasted too because I do. Just can't please everyone I guess. lol Quoting: Little Star
I understand perfectly, and have warned many not to publicly proclaim any agreements with me or else face the firing squad as well!!
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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 754324
11/3/2009 6:30 PM | | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
Twist and turn - twist and turn - are you really that ignorant? All that has NOTHING to do with the word (where it was used) in question. - el-o-heem' (GOD and the angels)
and YOU ARE STILL WRONG.
Youre the one twisting...lol
El = god
Elohim = gods
Malchi/malachi = angels = messengers
Different words grasshopper for angels and gods...lol!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! Quoting: HardTruth
Little Star
will you please show him where he is wrong.
Elohim means (together)GOD and his angels but somehow he does not get that. Seems thahe does not understand that you have to go back to the prime root of the word to get the full meaning.
He thinks it means 'gods'. |
| HardTruth
User ID: 809517
11/3/2009 6:33 PM
| | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
Twist and turn - twist and turn - are you really that ignorant? All that has NOTHING to do with the word (where it was used) in question. - el-o-heem' (GOD and the angels)
and YOU ARE STILL WRONG.
Youre the one twisting...lol
El = god
Elohim = gods
Malchi/malachi = angels = messengers
Different words grasshopper for angels and gods...lol!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! Quoting: HardTruth
Your scriptures clearly state, when corrected, that it was the elohim that took wives, not the malchi's!!
The benei Elohim saw the daughters of Adam, that they were fit extensions. And they took wives for themselves from all those that they chose...
The Nephelim were in the earth in those days, and even afterwards when the benei Elohim came in to the daughters of Adam, and they bore to them—they were Powerful Ones which existed from ancient times, the men of name. (Gen. 6:2,4) Interlinear Hebrew Bible
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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 686411
11/3/2009 6:33 PM | | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
At least you aren't just blindly spewing the same sludge that is recanted in this day and age all too frequently.
Kudos, HardTruth, for at least learning for yourself, and not blindly following.
I don't have the answers or the education to prove/disprove you, but I know this much, the official story is bullshit.
Most all "official stories" seem to be.
Carry on. |
| 9teen.47™
Time is short.
User ID: 809727
11/3/2009 6:34 PM
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Wow HardTruth, that is a great post, this totally exposes Christianity as a fraud and by the amount of negative feedback especially from 1947, who is totally loosing herself, you really seem to have hit the core.
Hey thanks, and yes, lol...they be foaming at the gills, turning green from holding down their vomit of despair!! Quoting: HardTruth
 HUMPH! In your dreams.
I hope that you can live with real bad toothache Half Tooth because that will be one of your curses if you die in your sins.
Mat 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 13:50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast [him] into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 24:51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint [him] his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Luk 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you [yourselves] thrust out.
Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 11/3/2009 at 6:35 PM
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobaccos worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 686411
11/3/2009 6:36 PM | | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
1947, if you really believe the KJV of the Christian bible to be matter of fact literal....
I really do feel bad for you...and hope your condition improves.
You should be able to disprove your religion in the next 20 minutes, conclusively...from google alone. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 754324
11/3/2009 6:36 PM | | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
ONe MORE TIME HT just for you.
Please read and try to understand. You have to take in all three defs to get the full meaning.
elohim
H430
el-o-heem'
Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative:
H433
el-o'-ah, el-o'-ah
(The second form is rare); probably prolonged (emphatically) from H410; a deity or the deity: - God
H410
ale
Shortened from H352; strength; as adjective mighty; especially the Almighty: - God
So what it really means is GOD (the ONE diety) and His magistrates (or angels).
NOT ‘gods’ . |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 785142
11/3/2009 6:37 PM | | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
The Phonetic Cabala holds the secret to Babel. |
| HardTruth
User ID: 809517
11/3/2009 6:37 PM
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Twist and turn - twist and turn - are you really that ignorant? All that has NOTHING to do with the word (where it was used) in question. - el-o-heem' (GOD and the angels)
and YOU ARE STILL WRONG.
Youre the one twisting...lol
El = god
Elohim = gods
Malchi/malachi = angels = messengers
Different words grasshopper for angels and gods...lol!!
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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Your scriptures clearly state, when corrected, that it was the elohim that took wives, not the malchi's!!
The benei Elohim saw the daughters of Adam, that they were fit extensions. And they took wives for themselves from all those that they chose...
The Nephelim were in the earth in those days, and even afterwards when the benei Elohim came in to the daughters of Adam, and they bore to them—they were Powerful Ones which existed from ancient times, the men of name. (Gen. 6:2,4) Interlinear Hebrew Bible
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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! Quoting: HardTruth
Malachi (or Malachias, מַלְאָכִי, Malʾaḫi, Mál'akhî) is a book of the hebrew Bible and Jewish Tanakh, written by the prophet Malachi. Possibly this is not the name of the author, since Malachi means 'my messenger' or 'my angel' in Hebrew.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! |
| Wingedlion
Wingedlion
User ID: 809742
11/3/2009 6:38 PM
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Twist and turn - twist and turn - are you really that ignorant? All that has NOTHING to do with the word (where it was used) in question. - el-o-heem' (GOD and the angels)
and YOU ARE STILL WRONG.
Youre the one twisting...lol
El = god
Elohim = gods
Malchi/malachi = angels = messengers
Different words grasshopper for angels and gods...lol!!
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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! Quoting: HardTruth
Elohim is used as a oneness of God's collective, sort of an all encompassing oneness of thought and purpose, whereas the El is used as a general term for God. Your lack of linguistics skills in not being able to transliterate between Hebrew thought and English is apparant. Too bad that you do not know Hebrew, Greek, or Aramaic either. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 754324
11/3/2009 6:41 PM | | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
Twist and turn - twist and turn - are you really that ignorant? All that has NOTHING to do with the word (where it was used) in question. - el-o-heem' (GOD and the angels)
and YOU ARE STILL WRONG.
Youre the one twisting...lol
El = god
Elohim = gods
Malchi/malachi = angels = messengers
Different words grasshopper for angels and gods...lol!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Your scriptures clearly state, when corrected, that it was the elohim that took wives, not the malchi's!!
The benei Elohim saw the daughters of Adam, that they were fit extensions. And they took wives for themselves from all those that they chose...
The Nephelim were in the earth in those days, and even afterwards when the benei Elohim came in to the daughters of Adam, and they bore to them—they were Powerful Ones which existed from ancient times, the men of name. (Gen. 6:2,4) Interlinear Hebrew Bible
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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! Quoting: HardTruth
>>Your scriptures clearly state, when corrected, that it was the elohim that took wives, not the malchi's!!<<
Another lie from you. I did not even look at the other two.
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
It says the sons of GOD (Elohim). |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 643658
11/3/2009 6:42 PM | | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
Wow HardTruth, that is a great post, this totally exposes Christianity as a fraud and by the amount of negative feedback especially from 1947, who is totally loosing herself, you really seem to have hit the core.
Hey thanks, and yes, lol...they be foaming at the gills, turning green from holding down their vomit of despair!!
:inyo: HUMPH! In your dreams.
I hope that you can live with real bad toothache Half Tooth because that will be one of your curses if you die in your sins.
Mat 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 13:50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast [him] into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 24:51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint [him] his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Luk 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you [yourselves] thrust out. Quoting: 9teen.47™
Hey pedo, posing as a Christian, why do you keep posting pics of young Asian girls that have nothing to do with the topics of your posts? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 803462
11/3/2009 6:42 PM | | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
Mat 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 13:50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast [him] into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 24:51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint [him] his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Luk 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you [yourselves] thrust out.
Quoting: 9teen.47™
Without intending a hijacking-via-tangent, I'm going to suggest that it's quite likely that every one of these scriptural promises already happened over 19 centuries ago to the Pharisees who didn't want a Redeemer because they were content dominating people by their pseudo-priestly racket ;) |
| 9teen.47™
Time is short.
User ID: 809727
11/3/2009 6:52 PM
| | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
why do you keep posting pics Quoting: Anonymous Coward 643658
 Do they irritate you 643658?
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobaccos worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
| HardTruth
User ID: 809517
11/3/2009 6:56 PM
| | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
At least you aren't just blindly spewing the same sludge that is recanted in this day and age all too frequently.
Kudos, HardTruth, for at least learning for yourself, and not blindly following.
I don't have the answers or the education to prove/disprove you, but I know this much, the official story is bullshit.
Most all "official stories" seem to be.
Carry on. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 686411
Thanks, it really pisses them off when we use our own minds!!
And you are right, the official story is B.S.!!
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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! |
| Goons fer God
User ID: 809563
11/3/2009 7:08 PM | | Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic! | Quote |
Hey pedo, posing as a Christian, why do you keep posting pics of young Asian girls that have nothing to do with the topics of your posts? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 643658
I have come to the conclusion that these girls must be the heavenly virgins that await us when we die for Israel. |
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