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Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!

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Jonathan
User ID: 624300
11/4/2009 1:51 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

Thank the gods that the whole world isn't christianity!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


"Thank the gods" rolleyes
HardTruth Subscriber
User ID: 810306
11/4/2009 1:56 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

nice post HT. I thought El Shaddai was not a name, but title. Lord Almighty. But I see your point, God is representative of multiple Good Gods, and Satan of multiple Bad Gods.

I think its also interesting, that when Abraham was making his way towards the Promised Land, he would pay homage to the Gods of the lands that he was passing through - clearly demonstrating that each EL claimed a peoples and land. Yahweh also seems to stress that he is the God of Israel, and Israel only. It is not until the later books, that he is specified as the creator of the universe by David and the Prophets. This all falls into place perfectly in the tribal context of the times, "my God can beat your God"

Also whats your op on the Book of Job?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 810168


Exactly, and if you will notice one of the defectors name was IZr-ael, no doubt the chosen god of Israel named after their real false god!!

I have no opinion on the book of Job, other than the evil manipulations of a false god torturing an innocent man to prove to the other false gods his supremacy over another!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 810168
11/4/2009 1:59 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

Exactly, and if you will notice one of the defectors name was IZr-ael, no doubt the chosen god of Israel named after their real false god!!

I have no opinion on the book of Job, other than the evil manipulations of a false god torturing an innocent man to prove to the other false gods his supremacy over another!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


Nice to know there are others out there who look into the details of the text. Have a good one!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 810168
11/4/2009 2:00 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

On El Shaddai///

The root word "shadad" (שדד) means "to overpower" or "to destroy". This would give Shaddai the meaning of "destroyer", representing one of the aspects of God, and in this context it is essentially an epithet.
HardTruth Subscriber
User ID: 810306
11/4/2009 2:17 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

On El Shaddai///

The root word "shadad" (שדד) means "to overpower" or "to destroy". This would give Shaddai the meaning of "destroyer", representing one of the aspects of God, and in this context it is essentially an epithet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 810168


No doubt!!

Satan = gods of war. It is only those that are extremely opposite of peace, love and harmony that would be defined as "Satans".

The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name. (Ex. 15:3)

How reveling is this....lol?

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Jonathan
User ID: 624300
11/4/2009 2:25 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

OP, have you ever 'converted' anybody? If you don't like the word convert...has anyone ever bought your shtick about the TRUE CREATORS, and actually changed their life to accommodate that?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 810168
11/4/2009 2:26 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

On El Shaddai///

The root word "shadad" (שדד) means "to overpower" or "to destroy". This would give Shaddai the meaning of "destroyer", representing one of the aspects of God, and in this context it is essentially an epithet.


No doubt!!

Satan = gods of war. It is only those that are extremely opposite of peace, love and harmony that would be defined as "Satans".

The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name. (Ex. 15:3)

How reveling is this....lol?

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth



Indeed!

And for arguments sake what do Fundies make of John 1:18

"No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."

So then who exactly did Moses commune with on Sinai???
HardTruth Subscriber
User ID: 810306
11/4/2009 2:31 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

OP, have you ever 'converted' anybody? If you don't like the word convert...has anyone ever bought your shtick about the TRUE CREATORS, and actually changed their life to accommodate that?
 Quoting: Jonathan


Actually there have been many, and before my demise hopefully many more!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Jonathan
User ID: 624300
11/4/2009 2:36 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

OP, have you ever 'converted' anybody? If you don't like the word convert...has anyone ever bought your shtick about the TRUE CREATORS, and actually changed their life to accommodate that?


Actually there have been many, and before my demise hopefully many more!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


Many? Like more than 10? More than 20? More than 100?

How did you do that? Did they see how together your life is and ask what you have because they wanted it too? Did you tell them about your beliefs and they said "Wow, that makes sense?"

Other? How did you convert people?
HardTruth Subscriber
User ID: 810306
11/4/2009 2:38 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

On El Shaddai///

The root word "shadad" (שדד) means "to overpower" or "to destroy". This would give Shaddai the meaning of "destroyer", representing one of the aspects of God, and in this context it is essentially an epithet.


No doubt!!

Satan = gods of war. It is only those that are extremely opposite of peace, love and harmony that would be defined as "Satans".

The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name. (Ex. 15:3)

How reveling is this....lol?

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!



Indeed!

And for arguments sake what do Fundies make of John 1:18

"No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."

So then who exactly did Moses commune with on Sinai???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 810168



That's one of those contradictions the christians don't like to talk about, for in Gen 32:30, Jacob claimed to have seen god face to face and survived!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
calling all scoffers
User ID: 810346
11/4/2009 2:40 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

"As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear."
HardTruth Subscriber
User ID: 810306
11/4/2009 2:43 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

OP, have you ever 'converted' anybody? If you don't like the word convert...has anyone ever bought your shtick about the TRUE CREATORS, and actually changed their life to accommodate that?


Actually there have been many, and before my demise hopefully many more!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


Many? Like more than 10? More than 20? More than 100?

How did you do that? Did they see how together your life is and ask what you have because they wanted it too? Did you tell them about your beliefs and they said "Wow, that makes sense?"

Other? How did you convert people?
 Quoting: Jonathan


As you well know, deprogramming is a long and tedious process, I have no powers as to convert millions at a time!!

Speaking of powers, how about you, walking on water yet, or healing the sick, or feeding the hungry from one loaf of bread, as was promised by your jesus that you and his followers would do all the works of his plus more!!

How's that working out for you?

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
GoogleIsDead
User ID: 782145
11/4/2009 2:43 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

it is wrought with fraud from cover to back page!

If not only the whole religion is a sham based on Egyptian myth... King james made sure it was absolutely screwed up!
'Strange' Because people can be plain ridiculous - we find that cool! [link to tjsilver.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 810168
11/4/2009 2:50 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

OP, have you ever 'converted' anybody? If you don't like the word convert...has anyone ever bought your shtick about the TRUE CREATORS, and actually changed their life to accommodate that?
 Quoting: Jonathan



Where as condemning earnest human beings to eternal hell and gnashing of teeth for not sharing your belief construct is sure to work...if all else fails, use fear...very medieval.
Jonathan
User ID: 624300
11/4/2009 2:56 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

So then who exactly did Moses commune with on Sinai???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 810168


in Gen 32:30, Jacob claimed to have seen god face to face and survived!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


If you don't believe Jesus is God in the flesh, then you would see those Biblical statements as a contradiction. And, I can see why (logically) from that vantage point.


If however, a person believes that Jesus the son of man is the human incarnation of God, has always existed, and has always had the ability to appear on earth at any time in man's history, then....it is not a contradiction.

The bible says no man has seen the father. But men were able to look upon God when he incarnated to earth in a flesh body in the person of Jesus Christ.

You see, those verses you used, when taken in the context of the Bible as a whole, uncovers the fact that Jesus 'birth' was not his first appearance on earth. The Bible is clear on that.

But from where you are, Jesus being the answer to any physical appearance of God in both the OT and the NT, is not an acceptable answer.

It is however, the answer for those who believe that Jesus is God.

Last Edited by Jonathan on 11/4/2009 at 2:57 PM
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 810168
11/4/2009 3:02 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

So then who exactly did Moses commune with on Sinai???



in Gen 32:30, Jacob claimed to have seen god face to face and survived!!


If you don't believe Jesus is God in the flesh, then you would see those Biblical statements as a contradiction. And, I can see why (logically) from that vantage point.


If however, a person believes that Jesus the son of man is the human incarnation of God, has always existed, and has always had the ability to appear on earth at any time in man's history, then....it is not a contradiction.

The bible says no man has seen the father. But men were able to look upon God when he incarnated to earth in a flesh body in the person of Jesus Christ.

You see, those verses you used, when taken in the context of the Bible as a whole, uncovers the fact that Jesus 'birth' was not his first appearance on earth. The Bible is clear on that.

But from where you are, Jesus being the answer to any physical appearance of God in both the OT and the NT, is not an acceptable answer.

It is however, the answer for those who believe that Jesus is God.
 Quoting: Jonathan


So Jacob wrestled Jesus? That's a first (isn't it a Mormon or JW belief that Jesus was Yahweh).
HardTruth Subscriber
User ID: 810306
11/4/2009 3:14 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

it is wrought with fraud from cover to back page!

If not only the whole religion is a sham based on Egyptian myth... King james made sure it was absolutely screwed up!
 Quoting: GoogleIsDead



Goofy Thum


Francis Bacon, a Rosicrucian, was chosen by Freemason King James to spear-head the KJV bible!!

Poor christians, A luciferian bloodline created their bible and put in charge was a member of a secret society!!

One that the christians dread as being false new age light workers....lol!!

[link to www.rosicrucian-order.com]
___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Jonathan
User ID: 624300
11/4/2009 3:16 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

OP, have you ever 'converted' anybody? If you don't like the word convert...has anyone ever bought your shtick about the TRUE CREATORS, and actually changed their life to accommodate that?


Actually there have been many, and before my demise hopefully many more!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


Many? Like more than 10? More than 20? More than 100?

How did you do that? Did they see how together your life is and ask what you have because they wanted it too? Did you tell them about your beliefs and they said "Wow, that makes sense?"

Other? How did you convert people?


As you well know, deprogramming is a long and tedious process, I have no powers as to convert millions at a time!!

Speaking of powers, how about you, walking on water yet, or healing the sick, or feeding the hungry from one loaf of bread, as was promised by your jesus that you and his followers would do all the works of his plus more!!

How's that working out for you?

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


I was not aware you have spent countless hours and years with many people, deprogramming them. Seems that deprogramming is, as you say, an effort that would take a long term and close individual personal commitment with each and every of the many individuals you have brought to the light. And, one person can only do so much of that at one time right?

I mean, in order to deprogram a person they would have to really trust you, know you on an intimate personal level, and know that you were truly committed. You would have to spend a great deal of time with each individual too. It takes a long time to build that kind of trust; especially with people who were once totally brainwashed I bet.

If you have converted many in that way, that is quite an extraordinary accomplishment. It's almost unbelievable.


As for the works? You are speaking in physical terms. That is not what Jesus is implying by those examples you cited. But, you interpret those things as actions you see with the physical eyes. So I can see why you would ask me that.
GoogleIsDead
User ID: 782145
11/4/2009 3:16 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

it is wrought with fraud from cover to back page!

If not only the whole religion is a sham based on Egyptian myth... King james made sure it was absolutely screwed up!



Goofy Thum


Francis Bacon, a Rosicrucian, was chosen by Freemason King James to spear-head the KJV bible!!

Poor christians, A luciferian bloodline created their bible and put in charge was a member of a secret society!!

One that the christians dread as being false new age light workers....lol!!

[link to www.rosicrucian-order.com]
___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


Divine intervention - when one realizes they have become educated!

I thank you for the thumbs up!
'Strange' Because people can be plain ridiculous - we find that cool! [link to tjsilver.com]
Jonathan
User ID: 624300
11/4/2009 3:20 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

So then who exactly did Moses commune with on Sinai???



in Gen 32:30, Jacob claimed to have seen god face to face and survived!!


If you don't believe Jesus is God in the flesh, then you would see those Biblical statements as a contradiction. And, I can see why (logically) from that vantage point.


If however, a person believes that Jesus the son of man is the human incarnation of God, has always existed, and has always had the ability to appear on earth at any time in man's history, then....it is not a contradiction.

The bible says no man has seen the father. But men were able to look upon God when he incarnated to earth in a flesh body in the person of Jesus Christ.

You see, those verses you used, when taken in the context of the Bible as a whole, uncovers the fact that Jesus 'birth' was not his first appearance on earth. The Bible is clear on that.

But from where you are, Jesus being the answer to any physical appearance of God in both the OT and the NT, is not an acceptable answer.

It is however, the answer for those who believe that Jesus is God.


So Jacob wrestled Jesus? That's a first (isn't it a Mormon or JW belief that Jesus was Yahweh).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 810168


No, the Mormons nor the JW believe that Jesus is God in the flesh.

Mormons believe Jesus was no more than a human man who achieved a 'godship' on earth, and got his own planet. Mormons believe there are millions of 'gods.'

JW believe that Jesus is the archangel Micheal. They do not believe Jesus is God. They will say he is the son of God, but not actually God.
mock this
User ID: 810372
11/4/2009 3:21 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

final hard truth
here it is; if you're not gonna turn you're just gonna burn.
HardTruth Subscriber
User ID: 810306
11/4/2009 3:29 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

final hard truth
here it is; if you're not gonna turn you're just gonna burn.
 Quoting: mock this 810372



another do


You poor deluded fool, no I will not turn, nor will I burn!!

I guess we can pay no heed to the claim of christian discernment now, cant we!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Jonathan
User ID: 624300
11/4/2009 3:34 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

Let me ask all of you a question.

If you know a person who is quite inspiring to you and seems to do well getting on in life, their life seems peaceful and tranquil, they have little conflict and drama, their home life runs in health, people want to be around them.....etc. etc.

....How often do you hear that person talk about how 'enlightened' they are, how together they are, how much they know, how much more advanced they are than the next guy, etc?

If they are really all those things I listed in the first paragraph....the answer is most likely, never.

The louder a person proclaims and protests to have superior knowledge or superior spirituality, and the more intolerance they show towards others, the less truth there is to what they say.

So, how often do those people who inspire you in your life talk about how great they are and how much they know?
Jonathan
User ID: 624300
11/4/2009 3:54 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

As for me, there are few people I truly admire and those people do not talk about their own greatness. Funny though because I see them as great. Not that I see them as 'above' others, in that I see their humanity, and they have problems like everybody else.... but....they handle those things in a great way. That's the key.

Those few people I admire never speak about how great they are. In fact, they are the most humbled people that I know. Humility is a wonderful quality in a human being, and quite something to behold when it is genuine.

I have noticed there are tons of people posting on the board who talk about how enlightened they are, etc. I am starting to wonder if this board contains the highest per capita population of narcissistically inclined individuals on the internet.

scratching

Last Edited by Jonathan on 11/4/2009 at 3:54 PM
Major
User ID: 647112
11/4/2009 4:06 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

I don't see the big deal, throughout the OT the singular God is constantly referred to as the LORD OF HOSTS - which infers there are other God-like beings who He is King over. Furthermore, the JPS (Jewish Publication Society) does a good job in translating the plural to "divine beings" -

I know most Christians like pointing this out to be the Trinity, but that is back tracking a little bit and is not necessary to believe in Jesus and is a bit disrespectful to the original authors.


You do not know the nature of "the host" any more than the rest of us. You statements are theory or at best your guess. The words "Lord of Host" do not imply god-like abilities.


Ya I know, Lord of Hosts, implies God is the leader of other Gods. Hence, there was no cover up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 810168


WRONG!

HOST refers to the "others" in heaven ministering to God.

Has nothing to to with OTHER gods.
HardTruth Subscriber
User ID: 810306
11/4/2009 4:08 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

As for me, there are few people I truly admire and those people do not talk about their own greatness. Funny though because I see them as great. Not that I see them as 'above' others, in that I see their humanity, and they have problems like everybody else.... but....they handle those things in a great way. That's the key.

Those few people I admire never speak about how great they are. In fact, they are the most humbled people that I know. Humility is a wonderful quality in a human being, and quite something to behold when it is genuine.

I have noticed there are tons of people posting on the board who talk about how enlightened they are, etc. I am starting to wonder if this board contains the highest per capita population of narcissistically inclined individuals on the internet.

scratching
 Quoting: Jonathan


I don't claim superiority, I just do my homework and use my own mind!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Major
User ID: 647112
11/4/2009 4:12 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

Let me be clear, I am what you may consider a 'fundie.' I would not call myself that however. I believe the Bible is the word of God. Perfect and complete. If that means I am a 'fundie' to some people, then I guess that's what I am to some.


What is your opinion on the OP then?


Well, my opinion is that the article was written by a Bible skeptic who is concerned with disproving the Bible. The content of the article, and the fact he acted to write the article, tells me this.

The article does not contain any points or arguments that I have not already heard, examined, and determined answers for prior to today.

I think that people can either take the time to examine the article, immediately dismiss the article, agree with the article, disagree, etc. etc.

And, I think that in the end, it will matter to no one but ourselves what we choose to do with any information we come across in this life.

What is your opinion on the OP?


YES, I agree completly. Nothing new there at all.

Hardtruth copied and pasted the article from "hiddenmysteries.org" which is an atheist website in Dallas Tex.

He is therefore by association an atheist as well. I can, have and do debate with non-believers up to the point where they start to become angry and obnocious.


There are all sorts of articles, studies, etc. a person can point to, in order to make a case against the Bible huh? Been going on for a long time. Meh, oh well.


I always find it interesting to examine what a person says (content) and then watch how they behave. (is there a consistent application of spoken content?) Do the words match the actions, or is there a mixed message?

Truthfully, there are people who believe they are doing what they say, when everyone else can plainly see that is not the case. That is called denial. I was once very much in denial, so I can recognize it when I see it. I still do it too. I think we all do.

What is important (I think) is that we as Christians never forget that we ourselves have a tendency to be in denial. It is our nature to deny our own sin, and concentrate on the 'badness' of others in an attempt to justify ourselves.

And, if we distort God's wisdom about facing sin and ourselves and use it as a weapon to 'PEG' others for their sin, we are not hearing the actual wisdom of God about those matters. It's easy to recognize a person doing this. They are usually pretty angry and use God's name as a battering ram. I am sure you already know that.

On the other hand, there are people who are quite hostile about the Bible, God, Christians, etc. If we take a look at their lives, we will find much the same parallel about denial and such.

If your beliefs are not real and they are not making you whole, they are false beliefs. It's an easy test we can do on ourselves and use on others. And, if we use it wisely, we will avoid much heartache and humiliation.

You know all this though.

1dunno1
 Quoting: Jonathan


I remember a very wise man saying a long time ago......

"You will know them by their fruits"!
Jonathan
User ID: 624300
11/4/2009 4:13 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

As for me, there are few people I truly admire and those people do not talk about their own greatness. Funny though because I see them as great. Not that I see them as 'above' others, in that I see their humanity, and they have problems like everybody else.... but....they handle those things in a great way. That's the key.

Those few people I admire never speak about how great they are. In fact, they are the most humbled people that I know. Humility is a wonderful quality in a human being, and quite something to behold when it is genuine.

I have noticed there are tons of people posting on the board who talk about how enlightened they are, etc. I am starting to wonder if this board contains the highest per capita population of narcissistically inclined individuals on the internet.

scratching


I don't claim superiority, I just do my homework and use my own mind!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


Would you claim that your knowledge is superior to mine if I say that I believe the Bible word for word, and live my entire life according to it?

Would you claim to be superior to me in knowledge and spirituality in that case?
Major
User ID: 647112
11/4/2009 4:14 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

As for me, there are few people I truly admire and those people do not talk about their own greatness. Funny though because I see them as great. Not that I see them as 'above' others, in that I see their humanity, and they have problems like everybody else.... but....they handle those things in a great way. That's the key.

Those few people I admire never speak about how great they are. In fact, they are the most humbled people that I know. Humility is a wonderful quality in a human being, and quite something to behold when it is genuine.

I have noticed there are tons of people posting on the board who talk about how enlightened they are, etc. I am starting to wonder if this board contains the highest per capita population of narcissistically inclined individuals on the internet.

scratching


I don't claim superiority, I just do my homework and use my own mind!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


Well then how do you explain all of the copy and pasting???

That is not YOUR homework my friend.
HardTruth Subscriber
User ID: 810306
11/4/2009 4:21 PM
Re: Fraud in the Bible or, It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic!Quote

As for me, there are few people I truly admire and those people do not talk about their own greatness. Funny though because I see them as great. Not that I see them as 'above' others, in that I see their humanity, and they have problems like everybody else.... but....they handle those things in a great way. That's the key.

Those few people I admire never speak about how great they are. In fact, they are the most humbled people that I know. Humility is a wonderful quality in a human being, and quite something to behold when it is genuine.

I have noticed there are tons of people posting on the board who talk about how enlightened they are, etc. I am starting to wonder if this board contains the highest per capita population of narcissistically inclined individuals on the internet.

scratching


I don't claim superiority, I just do my homework and use my own mind!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


Would you claim that your knowledge is superior to mine if I say that I believe the Bible word for word, and live my entire life according to it?

Would you claim to be superior to me in knowledge and spirituality in that case?
 Quoting: Jonathan



lol...You christians have been falsely claiming superior knowledge, enlightenment, spiritual discernment for thousands of years now, and sending curses of eternal damnation against those who refuse to believe your delusions!!

What a joke you folks are!!
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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
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