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9teen.47™ User ID: 808174 United Kingdom 11/01/2009 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread sucks. FIRE... Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God. Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman]. STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
HardTruth (OP) User ID: 807975 United States 11/01/2009 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, it does suck. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 805575But just because you do know some of these words, doesn't mean you don't twist things to your viewpoint either. I never twist, but I do so enjoy untwisting the so called infallible word!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 805575 United States 11/01/2009 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, it does suck. Quoting: HardTruthBut just because you do know some of these words, doesn't mean you don't twist things to your viewpoint either. I never twist, but I do so enjoy untwisting the so called infallible word!! :teeeehee: ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! You do twist, and it is men who are fallible. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 808162 South Africa 11/01/2009 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ahh... HT, the king of cut and paste. Mostly a Lie: >>The Hebrew word for God is el; the plural is elohim, gods.<< There is a emall amount of truth to what is said but as usual in Hard Truth's posts, he also tells you half truths. Which is of course a nice way of saying 'lie'. H430 'ĕlôhı̂ym el-o-heem' Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: H433 'ĕlôahh 'ĕlôahh el-o'-ah, el-o'-ah (The second form is rare); probably prolonged (emphatically) from H410; a deity or the deity: - God H410 'êl ale Shortened from H352; strength; as adjective mighty; especially the Almighty: - God So what it really means is GOD (the ONE diety) and His magistrates (or angels. NOT gods as HT would have you believe. And this is how Hard Truth operates - half truths and lies. |
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HardTruth (OP) User ID: 807975 United States 11/01/2009 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ahh... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 808162HT, the king of cut and paste. Mostly a Lie: >>The Hebrew word for God is el; the plural is elohim, gods.<< There is a emall amount of truth to what is said but as usual in Hard Truth's posts, he also tells you half truths. Which is of course a nice way of saying 'lie'. H430 'ĕlôhı̂ym el-o-heem' Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: H433 'ĕlôahh 'ĕlôahh el-o'-ah, el-o'-ah (The second form is rare); probably prolonged (emphatically) from H410; a deity or the deity: - God H410 'êl ale Shortened from H352; strength; as adjective mighty; especially the Almighty: - God So what it really means is GOD (the ONE diety) and His magistrates (or angels. NOT gods as HT would have you believe. And this is how Hard Truth operates - half truths and lies. Go back to school grasshopper, and I don't lie!! Christians, Meet The ELOHIM, YHVH's Equals Of The Ancient World, The Men Of Name!! Thread: Christians, Meet The ELOHIM, YHVH's Equals Of The Ancient World, The Men Of Name!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! |
lil*miss User ID: 803442 Canada 11/01/2009 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watched an interesting program the other night that ties in with this, HT. It was called UFO's In The Bible, a documentary by the History Channel. Ordinary people couldn't read the bible, because it wasn't written in everyday language. They weren't meant to read it. Last Edited by lil*miss on 11/01/2009 06:17 PM |
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HardTruth (OP) User ID: 807975 United States 11/01/2009 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watched an interesting program the other night that ties in with this, HT. Quoting: lil*missIt was called UFO's In The Bible, a documentary by the History Channel. Ordinary people couldn't read the bible, because it wasn't written in everyday language. They weren't meant to read it. Hey thanks, this will be good, and they still don't want folks to understand the original documents!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! |
MagiChristmas User ID: 554973 United States 11/01/2009 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, it does suck. Quoting: HardTruthBut just because you do know some of these words, doesn't mean you don't twist things to your viewpoint either. I never twist, but I do so enjoy untwisting the so called infallible word!! ___________ Your path of discovery has found the truth again. Soul In scripture, the term soul is used as a synonym for spirit to describe a person in four different phases of his or her eternal existence. Soul is used to describe a person in premortal life—before birth (see Abraham 3:23). During earth life, the soul is joined with a physical body (see Abraham 5:7). At death, the soul leaves the body and goes to the spirit world to await resurrection (see Alma 40:11–14). In the Resurrection, the body and soul are inseparably connected, which is called "the redemption of the soul" (see Alma 40:23; D&C 88:15–16). - [link to www.lds.org] Moses 3:5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew. For I, the Lord God, created all things, of which I have spoken, spiritually, before they were naturally upon the face of the earth. For I, the Lord God, had not caused it to rain upon the face of the earth. And I, the Lord God, had created all the children of men; and not yet a man to till the ground; for in heaven created I them; and there was not yet flesh upon the earth, neither in the water, neither in the air; HardTruth has seen through the deception again. Thread: Christians, Meet The ELOHIM, YHVH's Equals Of The Ancient World, The Men Of Name!! (Page 4) MC Last Edited by Tru Blu no more on 11/01/2009 06:27 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 808162 South Africa 11/01/2009 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ahh... Quoting: HardTruthHT, the king of cut and paste. Mostly a Lie: >>The Hebrew word for God is el; the plural is elohim, gods.<< There is a emall amount of truth to what is said but as usual in Hard Truth's posts, he also tells you half truths. Which is of course a nice way of saying 'lie'. H430 'ĕlôhı̂ym el-o-heem' Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: H433 'ĕlôahh 'ĕlôahh el-o'-ah, el-o'-ah (The second form is rare); probably prolonged (emphatically) from H410; a deity or the deity: - God H410 'êl ale Shortened from H352; strength; as adjective mighty; especially the Almighty: - God So what it really means is GOD (the ONE diety) and His magistrates (or angels. NOT gods as HT would have you believe. And this is how Hard Truth operates - half truths and lies. Go back to school grasshopper, and I don't lie!! Christians, Meet The ELOHIM, YHVH's Equals Of The Ancient World, The Men Of Name!! Thread: Christians, Meet The ELOHIM, YHVH's Equals Of The Ancient World, The Men Of Name!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! Yes, YOU do lie. I just proved it with my post, grasshopper. You need to learn to read and more importantly, you need to learn to understand what you read. |
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HardTruth (OP) User ID: 807975 United States 11/01/2009 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you ever come up with your own conclusion and material? Quoting: R\\//T 658677Copy and Paste is starting to get old, give us something new, something from your own mind. Most of what I give is from me grasshopper!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! |
HardTruth (OP) User ID: 807975 United States 11/01/2009 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We see through your trickery Hardtruth . There was no Hebrew when Adam was alive. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 768741The Sumerians were, but you guys dismiss their material, and the Hebrews were the original Irish druids!! But noooo, lol...let the gypsies steal the language, manipulate it, slap their label on it, claim to be the chosen race, and you guys eat it up!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! |
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HardTruth (OP) User ID: 807975 United States 11/01/2009 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ahh... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 808162HT, the king of cut and paste. Mostly a Lie: >>The Hebrew word for God is el; the plural is elohim, gods.<< There is a emall amount of truth to what is said but as usual in Hard Truth's posts, he also tells you half truths. Which is of course a nice way of saying 'lie'. H430 'ĕlôhı̂ym el-o-heem' Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: H433 'ĕlôahh 'ĕlôahh el-o'-ah, el-o'-ah (The second form is rare); probably prolonged (emphatically) from H410; a deity or the deity: - God H410 'êl ale Shortened from H352; strength; as adjective mighty; especially the Almighty: - God So what it really means is GOD (the ONE diety) and His magistrates (or angels. NOT gods as HT would have you believe. And this is how Hard Truth operates - half truths and lies. Go back to school grasshopper, and I don't lie!! Christians, Meet The ELOHIM, YHVH's Equals Of The Ancient World, The Men Of Name!! Thread: Christians, Meet The ELOHIM, YHVH's Equals Of The Ancient World, The Men Of Name!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! Yes, YOU do lie. I just proved it with my post, grasshopper. You need to learn to read and more importantly, you need to learn to understand what you read. I understand perfectly well what I read, that's why I know there was no fall, or original sin, just as your scriptures plainly state!! lol...so who again has the problem? ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! Last Edited by HardTruth on 11/01/2009 06:49 PM |
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HardTruth (OP) User ID: 807975 United States 11/01/2009 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not other Gods...descriptive names for God. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 805575Descriptive names: El Shaddai = God Almighty. El Echad = The One God. lol.... The great fraud, now buy it, live it and be a good little christian and don't ask any questions!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 808162 South Africa 11/01/2009 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ahh... Quoting: HardTruthHT, the king of cut and paste. Mostly a Lie: >>The Hebrew word for God is el; the plural is elohim, gods.<< There is a emall amount of truth to what is said but as usual in Hard Truth's posts, he also tells you half truths. Which is of course a nice way of saying 'lie'. H430 'ĕlôhı̂ym el-o-heem' Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: H433 'ĕlôahh 'ĕlôahh el-o'-ah, el-o'-ah (The second form is rare); probably prolonged (emphatically) from H410; a deity or the deity: - God H410 'êl ale Shortened from H352; strength; as adjective mighty; especially the Almighty: - God So what it really means is GOD (the ONE diety) and His magistrates (or angels. NOT gods as HT would have you believe. And this is how Hard Truth operates - half truths and lies. Go back to school grasshopper, and I don't lie!! Christians, Meet The ELOHIM, YHVH's Equals Of The Ancient World, The Men Of Name!! Thread: Christians, Meet The ELOHIM, YHVH's Equals Of The Ancient World, The Men Of Name!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! Yes, YOU do lie. I just proved it with my post, grasshopper. You need to learn to read and more importantly, you need to learn to understand what you read. I understand perfectly well what I read, that's why I know there was no fall, or original sin, just as your scriptures plainly state!! lol...so who again has the problem? ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! You always avoid actually answering posts. You always try the old switch game (so like your papa Satan)to avoid answering - because you have no answers - just a smart mouth and a small mind. What on earth does 'original sin' have to do with what I said - NOTHING. You do just what Satan tried with Jesus when he tried to tempt Him on the mountain. Satan quoted scripture to Jesus BUT he twisted it around till it really did not mean what the original text said. That is what you do - you twist things and tell lies. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 807999 United States 11/01/2009 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pious Fraud in Translation Quoting: HardTruthLet's take a look at the very first words of the book of Genesis. Note very carefully that the Hebrew culture, at the time of this writing, was not monothestic, but rather, polytheistic. Will your priest, minister or preacher tell you that? No. But you can find out for yourself with a simple dictionary. The Hebrew word for God is el; the plural is elohim, gods. What is the first sentence in the Bible? "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" (Gen. 1:1). Here is Genesis 1:1 in Hebrew (transliterated into the Latin alphabet, of course): "Bereshith bara elohim," etc., If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! Latin didn't come until much later. What a Catholic Roman lie. The Strong's is easily verified. It does say elohim meaning the triune Godhead. Other verses explain God the Father created all through Jesus, who was "the Word" Genesis Hebrew-English [link to www.mechon-mamre.org] [link to www.apostolic-churches.net] WORSHIP, as in LOVE. God does not force anyone to love him. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 808208 Spain 11/01/2009 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | obvious that believing in the bible 100% is ridiculous Why cant we get some real answers for op´s post? Because there are none! Anyone with half a brain can study anything for themselves now but that doesnt work i see. I think its scary that the bible pushers are not critical at all towards the beliefs/bible that cause wars and what have ye and just point fingers and create lame attacks- You lost! All of ye You are the problem in this world and u will never know What a (dark?)sense of humor the creator must have- hehehe |
R\\//T User ID: 658677 United States 11/01/2009 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you ever come up with your own conclusion and material? Quoting: HardTruthCopy and Paste is starting to get old, give us something new, something from your own mind. Most of what I give is from me grasshopper!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! If you wrote that webpage then Im sorry, if not my comment stands. |