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Obama CANNOT Supercede the Constitution with a
Treaty!

Obama can NOT supercede the Constitution with a
treaty – EVEN if he could produce his birth
certificate!

If you’ve been hearing this over the mass media
– and from Lord Monckton – it is NOT true.

Guys – Gals – before I drop this needed
documentation on you that the US Constitution
supercedes treaties – please help us mount the
resistance to those who try this scam every 20
years or so – by visiting our Precinct Project
ChipIn at the top of www.wagthedog2010.com – a
page of explanation of “WHY” the ChipIn – is
here:
[link to www.wagthedog2010.com]

NOW – here is the excellent documentation found
by Dan Thompson of Idaho’s Rally Right after he
and I discussed this issue. I do NOT endorse
everything Justin Raimondo writes – but this
piece is excellent and gives us the documentation
we need to fight the upcoming rash of world
socialist treaties that Barack intends to sign:

The Bricker Amendment

By Justin Raimondo

The problem of international treaties superseding
the U.S. Constitution and undermining the
foundations of our Republic is not a new one. The
conservative movement of the early 1950's, which
looked on the United Nations with extreme
suspicion, was particularly sensitive to this
threat -- and they hit upon a solution: the
Bricker Amendment.

Introduced into the Senate in February, 1952, as
Senate Joint Resolution 130, the "Bricker
Amendment" to the Constitution read as follows:

• Section 1. A provision of a treaty which
conflicts with this Constitution shall not be of
any force or effect.

• Section 2. A treaty shall become effective as
internal law in the United States only through
legislation which would be valid in the absence
of
treaty.

• Section 3. Congress shall have power to
regulate all executive and other agreements with
any foreign power or international organization.
All such agreements shall be subject to the
limitations imposed on treaties by this article.

• Section 4. The congress shall have power to
enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Mobilizing to support Bricker, conservatives
built a grand coalition which included all the
major veterans groups, the Kiwanis Clubs, the
American Association of Small Business, many
women's groups, as well as the conservative
activist organizations of the time, such as the
Freedom Clubs and the Committee for
Constitutional
Government. The conservative press joined in the
campaign; writing in Human Events, Frank Chodorov
said that

The proposed amendment arises from a rather odd
situation. A nation is threatened by invasion,
not
by a foreign army, but by its own legal
entanglements. Not soldiers, but theoreticians
and
visionaries attack its independence and aim to
bring its people under the rule of an
agglomeration of foreign governments. This is
something new in history. There have been
occasions when a weak nation sought security by
placing itself under the yoke of a strong one.
But, here we have the richest nation in the
world,
and apparently the strongest, flirting with the
liquidation of its independence. Nothing like
that
has ever happened before.

The breach in our defenses, said Chodorov, is in
Article VI of the Constitution, which provides
that "... All Treaties ...shall be the supreme
Law
of the Land... any Thing in the Constitution to
the contrary notwithstanding." At the time of the
Founders, the division between foreign and
domestic policy was clear enough; there was never
any intention, as Jefferson wrote, to enable the
President and the Senate to "do by treaty what
the
whole government is interdicted from doing in any
way."

But as the concept of limited government was
eroded -- and under pressure from the endless
stream of pacts, covenants, and executive
agreements issuing forth from the United Nations
and its American enthusiasts -- the chink in our
constitutional armor widened.

Just as the growth
of administrative law had threatened to overthrow
the old Republic during the darkest days of the
New Deal, so under Truman and Eisenhower the
burgeoning body of treaty law threatened to
overthrow U.S. sovereignty. Executive agreements
had created administrative law of a new type;
treaties which sought to regulate domestic
economic and social behavior to a degree never
achieved by the Brain Trusters.

If the New Deal
had failed to completely socialize America, to
conservatives it often seemed as if the United
Nations seemed determined to finish the job.
According to the UN Declaration of Human Rights,
human beings were endowed with all sorts of
"rights," including the right to a job and the
right to "security." There were, however, certain
significant omissions, chief among them the right
to own and maintain private property. Another
equally glaring omission was the unqualified
right
to a free press, the regulation of which is left
up to member nations. When three Supreme Court
justices, including the Chief Justice, cited the
UN Charter and the NATO treaty in support of
their
argument that Truman had the right to seize the
steel mills, conservatives went into action --
and
the fight for the Bricker Amendment began in
earnest.

The Eisenhower Administration, and particularly
the U.S. State Department, went all out to defeat
the Amendment. Leading the opposition was
Secretary of State John Foster Dulles. This was
the same John Foster Dulles who had said, two
years previous, that "The treaty power is an
extraordinary power, liable to abuse," and warned
that "Treaties can take powers away from the
Congress and give them to the President. They can
take powers from the states and give them to the
federal government or to some international body
and they can cut across the rights given to the
people by their Constitutional Bill of Rights."
Hammered with this quote by Clarence Manion, Dean
of Law at Notre Dame University, and a leading
proponent of the Bricker Amendment, Dulles could
only take refuge in the argument that this
President would never compromise U.S.
sovereignty.


Although the Bricker Amendment started out with
fifty-six co- sponsors, it eventually went down
to
defeat in the U.S. Senate, 42-50, with 4 not
voting. (A watered-down version, the "George
proposal," lost by a single vote.) The defection
of Senators William Knowland and Alexander Wiley
from conservative Republican ranks on this
occasion was particularly significant, and marked
the beginning not only of Wiley's chairmanship of
the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, but also
the decline of the movement to put and keep
America first.

As Frank E. Holman, president of the American Bar
Association, and the sparkplug of the Bricker
Amendment movement, wrote:

In the destiny of human affairs a great issue
like a righteous cause does not die. It lives on
and arises again and again until rightly won.
However long the fight for an adequate
Constitutional Amendment on treaties and other
international agreements, it will and must be
won.

This will be the history of the Bricker Amendment
as it has been the history of all other great
issues and causes.

Holman's comments were published in 1954 as Story
of the Bricker Amendment, (The First Phase) -- a
title which one can only hope is prophetic.

***** END OF ARTICLE BELOW IS THE BRICKER AMENDMENT

Bricker Amendment - U.S. Senate

S.J. Res. 130, 82nd Congress - February 7, 1952

• Section 1. No treaty of executive agreement
shall be made respecting the rights of citizens
of
the United States protected by this Constitution
or abridging or prohibiting the free exercise
thereof.

• Section 2. No treaty or executive agreement
shall vest in any international organization or
in
any foreign power any of the legislative,
executive, or judicial powers vested by this
Constitution in the Congress, the President, and
in the courts of the United States, respectively.


• Section 3. No treaty or executive agreement
shall alter or abridge the laws of the United
States or the Constitution of laws of the several
unless, and then only to the extend that,
Congress
shall so provide by joint resolution.

• Section 4. Executive agreements shall not be
made in lieu of treaties.

• Executive agreements shall, if not sooner
terminated, expire automatically one year after
the end of the term of office for which the
President making the agreement shall have been
elected, but the Congress may, at the request of
any President, extend for the duration of the
term
of such President the life of any such agreement
made or extended during the next preceding
Presidential term.

• The President shall publish all executive
agreements except that those which in his
judgment
require secrecy shall be submitted to appropriate
committees of the Congress in lieu of
publication.


• Section 5. Congress shall have power to
enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

S.J. Res. 1, 83rd Congress - January 7, 1953

• Section 1. A provision of a treaty which
denies or abridges any right enumerated in this
Constitution shall not be of any force or effect.


• Section 2. No treaty shall authorize or
permit
any foreign power or any international
organization to supervise, control, or adjudicate
rights of citizens of the United States within
the
United States enumerated in this Constitution or
any other matter essentially within the domestic
jurisdiction of the United States.

• Section 3. A treaty shall become effective as
internal law in the United States only through
the
enactment of appropriate legislation by the
Congress.

• Section 4. All executive or other agreements
between the President and any international
organization, foreign power, or official thereof
shall be made only in the manner and to the
extent
to be prescribed by law. Such agreements shall be
subject to the limitations imposed on treaties,
or
the making of treaties, by this article.

• Section 5. Congress shall have power to
enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

S.J. Res. 43, 83rd Congress - February 16, 1953
• Section 1. A provision of a treaty which
conflicts with any provision of this Constitution
shall not be of any force or effect.

• A treaty shall become effective as internal
law in the United States only through legislation
which would be valid in the absence of treaty.

• Executive agreements shall be subject to
regulation by the Congress and to the limitations
imposed on treaties by this article.

• Section 2. Congress shall have power to
enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

S.J. Res. 1, as reported by the Judiciary
Committee - June 15, 1953
• Section 1. A provision of a treaty which
conflicts with this Constitution shall not be of
any force or effect.

• Section 2. A treaty shall become effective as
internal law in the United States only through
legislation which would be valid in the absence
of
treaty.

• Section 3. Congress shall have power to
regulate all executive and other agreements with
any foreign power or international organization.
All such agreements shall be subject to the
limitations imposed on treaties by this article.

• Section 4. Congress shall have power to
enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

George Substitute To S.J. Res. 1 - January 27,
1954
• Section 1. A provision of a treaty or other
international agreement which conflicts with this
Constitution shall not be of any force or effect.


• Section 2. An international agreement other
than a treaty shall become effective as internal
law in the United States only by an act of the
Congress.

Ferguson-Knowland Substitute To S.J. Res. 1
(February 2, 1954)
• Section 1. A provision of a treaty or other
international agreement which conflicts with this
Constitution shall not be of any force or effect.


• Section 2. Clause 2 of Article VI of the
Constitution of the United States is hereby
amended by adding at the end thereof the
following: 'Notwithstanding the foregoing
provisions of this clause, no treaty made after
the establishment of this Constitution shall be
the supreme law of the land unless made in
pursuance of this Constitution.

• Section 3. On the question of advising and
consenting to the ratification of a treaty the
vote shall be determined by yeas and nays and the
names of the persons voting for and against shall
be entered on the Journal of the Senate.

Bricker Substitute To S.J. Res. 1 - February 4,
1954
• Section 1. Clause 2 of Article VI of the
Constitution of the United States is hereby
amended by adding at the end thereof the
following: 'Notwithstanding the foregoing
provisions of this clause, no treaty made after
the establishment of this Constitution shall be
the supreme law of the land unless made in
pursuance of this Constitution.

• Section 2. A provision of a treaty or other
international agreement which conflicts with this
Constitution shall not be of any force or effect.


• Section 3. A treaty or other international
agreement shall become effective as internal law
in the United States only through legislation by
the Congress unless in advising and consenting to
a treaty the Senate, by a vote of two-thirds of
the Senators present and voting, shall provide
that such treaty may become effective as internal
law without legislation by Congress.

• Section 4. On the question of advising and
consenting to the ratification of a treaty the
vote shall be determined by yeas and nays and the
names of the persons voting for and against shall
be entered on the Journal of the Senate.

S.J. Res. 181, 83rd Congress - August 7, 1954
• Section 1. A provision of a treaty or other
international agreement which conflicts with this
Constitution, or which is not made in pursuance
thereof, shall not be the supreme law of the land
nor be of any force or effect.

• Section 2. A treaty or other international
agreement shall become effective as internal law
in the United States only through legislation
valid in the absence of international agreement.

• Section 3. On the question of advising and
consenting to the ratification of a treaty, the
vote shall be determined by yeas and nays, and
the
names of the persons voting for and against shall
be entered on the Journal of the Senate.

S.J. Res. 1, 84th Congress - January 6, 1955]
This was identical to S.J. Res. 181, 83rd
Congress.

S.J. Res. 3, 85th Congress - January 7, 1957
• Section 1. A provision of a treaty or other
international agreement not made in pursuance of
this Constitution shall have no force or effect.
This section shall not apply to treaties made
prior to the effective date of this Constitution.


• Section 2. A treaty or other international
agreement shall have legislative effect within
the
United States as a law thereof only through
legislation, except to the extend that the Senate
shall provide affirmatively, in its resolution
advising and consenting to a treaty, that the
treaty shall have legislative effect.

• Section 3. An international agreement other
than a treaty shall have legislative effect
within
the United States as a law thereof only through
legislation valid in the absence of such an
international agreement.

• Section 4. On the question of advising and
consenting to the ratification of a treaty, the
vote shall be determined by yeas and nays, and
the
names of the persons voting for and against shall
be entered on the Journal of the Senate.

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Re: Obama CANNOT Supercede the Constitution with a Treaty!
'It's just a goddamned piece of paper'

- George Bush

You think this new clown sees it any differently?
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'It's just a goddamned piece of paper'

- George Bush

You think this new clown sees it any differently?
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He may not, but there are at least a few judges that do.
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It's "supersede" and not "supercede" tell the moran who wrote that article.


su⋅per⋅sede  /ˌsupərˈs​id/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [soo-per-seed] Show IPA
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–verb (used with object), -sed⋅ed, -sed⋅ing. 1. to replace in power, authority, effectiveness, acceptance, use, etc., as by another person or thing.
2. to set aside or cause to be set aside as void, useless, or obsolete, usually in favor of something mentioned; make obsolete: They superseded the old statute with a new one.
3. to succeed to the position, function, office, etc., of; supplant.


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One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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The constitution to the obama administration is just something to wrap fish guts in.


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'It's just a goddamned piece of paper'

- George Bush

You think this new clown sees it any differently?
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I have never seen a credible source for Bush saying that but we do now have a Czar saying the law should be whatever Obama says it is because Obama was elected.

And e have Pelosi asking if the reporter was serious when he asked her where in the Constitution the authority for healthcare was located. There is no healtcare in there either for that matter.

But none of them seem to pay the least bit of attention to what it says any more.

A treaty nor any other law is ever SUPPOSED to supersede the Constitution as it is SUPPOSED to be the final word.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Treaties are still subject to approval by 2/3rds of the Senate.

The Senate isn't Obama's bitch.
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Obama

Obama

Obama

Of course it's not Obama but DC. Nothing changes. Clinton signed NAFTA.

They will do whatever they want.

Brace for impact.
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November 01, 2009 NA (Network America) e-wire

Obama CANNOT Supercede the Constitution with a
Treaty!

Obama can NOT supercede the Constitution with a
treaty – EVEN if he could produce his birth
certificate!

If you’ve been hearing this over the mass media
– and from Lord Monckton – it is NOT true.

Guys – Gals – before I drop this needed
documentation on you that the US Constitution
supercedes treaties – please help us mount the
resistance to those who try this scam every 20
years or so – by visiting our Precinct Project
ChipIn at the top of www.wagthedog2010.com – a
page of explanation of “WHY” the ChipIn – is
here:
[link to www.wagthedog2010.com]

NOW – here is the excellent documentation found
by Dan Thompson of Idaho’s Rally Right after he
and I discussed this issue. I do NOT endorse
everything Justin Raimondo writes – but this
piece is excellent and gives us the documentation
we need to fight the upcoming rash of world
socialist treaties that Barack intends to sign:

The Bricker Amendment

By Justin Raimondo

The problem of international treaties superseding
the U.S. Constitution and undermining the
foundations of our Republic is not a new one. The
conservative movement of the early 1950's, which
looked on the United Nations with extreme
suspicion, was particularly sensitive to this
threat -- and they hit upon a solution: the
Bricker Amendment.

Introduced into the Senate in February, 1952, as
Senate Joint Resolution 130, the "Bricker
Amendment" to the Constitution read as follows:

• Section 1. A provision of a treaty which
conflicts with this Constitution shall not be of
any force or effect.

• Section 2. A treaty shall become effective as
internal law in the United States only through
legislation which would be valid in the absence
of
treaty.

• Section 3. Congress shall have power to
regulate all executive and other agreements with
any foreign power or international organization.
All such agreements shall be subject to the
limitations imposed on treaties by this article.

• Section 4. The congress shall have power to
enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Mobilizing to support Bricker, conservatives
built a grand coalition which included all the
major veterans groups, the Kiwanis Clubs, the
American Association of Small Business, many
women's groups, as well as the conservative
activist organizations of the time, such as the
Freedom Clubs and the Committee for
Constitutional
Government. The conservative press joined in the
campaign; writing in Human Events, Frank Chodorov
said that

The proposed amendment arises from a rather odd
situation. A nation is threatened by invasion,
not
by a foreign army, but by its own legal
entanglements. Not soldiers, but theoreticians
and
visionaries attack its independence and aim to
bring its people under the rule of an
agglomeration of foreign governments. This is
something new in history. There have been
occasions when a weak nation sought security by
placing itself under the yoke of a strong one.
But, here we have the richest nation in the
world,
and apparently the strongest, flirting with the
liquidation of its independence. Nothing like
that
has ever happened before.

The breach in our defenses, said Chodorov, is in
Article VI of the Constitution, which provides
that "... All Treaties ...shall be the supreme
Law
of the Land... any Thing in the Constitution to
the contrary notwithstanding." At the time of the
Founders, the division between foreign and
domestic policy was clear enough; there was never
any intention, as Jefferson wrote, to enable the
President and the Senate to "do by treaty what
the
whole government is interdicted from doing in any
way."

But as the concept of limited government was
eroded -- and under pressure from the endless
stream of pacts, covenants, and executive
agreements issuing forth from the United Nations
and its American enthusiasts -- the chink in our
constitutional armor widened.

Just as the growth
of administrative law had threatened to overthrow
the old Republic during the darkest days of the
New Deal, so under Truman and Eisenhower the
burgeoning body of treaty law threatened to
overthrow U.S. sovereignty. Executive agreements
had created administrative law of a new type;
treaties which sought to regulate domestic
economic and social behavior to a degree never
achieved by the Brain Trusters.

If the New Deal
had failed to completely socialize America, to
conservatives it often seemed as if the United
Nations seemed determined to finish the job.
According to the UN Declaration of Human Rights,
human beings were endowed with all sorts of
"rights," including the right to a job and the
right to "security." There were, however, certain
significant omissions, chief among them the right
to own and maintain private property. Another
equally glaring omission was the unqualified
right
to a free press, the regulation of which is left
up to member nations. When three Supreme Court
justices, including the Chief Justice, cited the
UN Charter and the NATO treaty in support of
their
argument that Truman had the right to seize the
steel mills, conservatives went into action --
and
the fight for the Bricker Amendment began in
earnest.

The Eisenhower Administration, and particularly
the U.S. State Department, went all out to defeat
the Amendment. Leading the opposition was
Secretary of State John Foster Dulles. This was
the same John Foster Dulles who had said, two
years previous, that "The treaty power is an
extraordinary power, liable to abuse," and warned
that "Treaties can take powers away from the
Congress and give them to the President. They can
take powers from the states and give them to the
federal government or to some international body
and they can cut across the rights given to the
people by their Constitutional Bill of Rights."
Hammered with this quote by Clarence Manion, Dean
of Law at Notre Dame University, and a leading
proponent of the Bricker Amendment, Dulles could
only take refuge in the argument that this
President would never compromise U.S.
sovereignty.


Although the Bricker Amendment started out with
fifty-six co- sponsors, it eventually went down
to
defeat in the U.S. Senate, 42-50, with 4 not
voting. (A watered-down version, the "George
proposal," lost by a single vote.) The defection
of Senators William Knowland and Alexander Wiley
from conservative Republican ranks on this
occasion was particularly significant, and marked
the beginning not only of Wiley's chairmanship of
the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, but also
the decline of the movement to put and keep
America first.

As Frank E. Holman, president of the American Bar
Association, and the sparkplug of the Bricker
Amendment movement, wrote:

In the destiny of human affairs a great issue
like a righteous cause does not die. It lives on
and arises again and again until rightly won.
However long the fight for an adequate
Constitutional Amendment on treaties and other
international agreements, it will and must be
won.

This will be the history of the Bricker Amendment
as it has been the history of all other great
issues and causes.

Holman's comments were published in 1954 as Story
of the Bricker Amendment, (The First Phase) -- a
title which one can only hope is prophetic.

***** END OF ARTICLE BELOW IS THE BRICKER AMENDMENT

Bricker Amendment - U.S. Senate

S.J. Res. 130, 82nd Congress - February 7, 1952

• Section 1. No treaty of executive agreement
shall be made respecting the rights of citizens
of
the United States protected by this Constitution
or abridging or prohibiting the free exercise
thereof.

• Section 2. No treaty or executive agreement
shall vest in any international organization or
in
any foreign power any of the legislative,
executive, or judicial powers vested by this
Constitution in the Congress, the President, and
in the courts of the United States, respectively.


• Section 3. No treaty or executive agreement
shall alter or abridge the laws of the United
States or the Constitution of laws of the several
unless, and then only to the extend that,
Congress
shall so provide by joint resolution.

• Section 4. Executive agreements shall not be
made in lieu of treaties.

• Executive agreements shall, if not sooner
terminated, expire automatically one year after
the end of the term of office for which the
President making the agreement shall have been
elected, but the Congress may, at the request of
any President, extend for the duration of the
term
of such President the life of any such agreement
made or extended during the next preceding
Presidential term.

• The President shall publish all executive
agreements except that those which in his
judgment
require secrecy shall be submitted to appropriate
committees of the Congress in lieu of
publication.


• Section 5. Congress shall have power to
enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

S.J. Res. 1, 83rd Congress - January 7, 1953

• Section 1. A provision of a treaty which
denies or abridges any right enumerated in this
Constitution shall not be of any force or effect.


• Section 2. No treaty shall authorize or
permit
any foreign power or any international
organization to supervise, control, or adjudicate
rights of citizens of the United States within
the
United States enumerated in this Constitution or
any other matter essentially within the domestic
jurisdiction of the United States.

• Section 3. A treaty shall become effective as
internal law in the United States only through
the
enactment of appropriate legislation by the
Congress.

• Section 4. All executive or other agreements
between the President and any international
organization, foreign power, or official thereof
shall be made only in the manner and to the
extent
to be prescribed by law. Such agreements shall be
subject to the limitations imposed on treaties,
or
the making of treaties, by this article.

• Section 5. Congress shall have power to
enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

S.J. Res. 43, 83rd Congress - February 16, 1953
• Section 1. A provision of a treaty which
conflicts with any provision of this Constitution
shall not be of any force or effect.

• A treaty shall become effective as internal
law in the United States only through legislation
which would be valid in the absence of treaty.

• Executive agreements shall be subject to
regulation by the Congress and to the limitations
imposed on treaties by this article.

• Section 2. Congress shall have power to
enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

S.J. Res. 1, as reported by the Judiciary
Committee - June 15, 1953
• Section 1. A provision of a treaty which
conflicts with this Constitution shall not be of
any force or effect.

• Section 2. A treaty shall become effective as
internal law in the United States only through
legislation which would be valid in the absence
of
treaty.

• Section 3. Congress shall have power to
regulate all executive and other agreements with
any foreign power or international organization.
All such agreements shall be subject to the
limitations imposed on treaties by this article.

• Section 4. Congress shall have power to
enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

George Substitute To S.J. Res. 1 - January 27,
1954
• Section 1. A provision of a treaty or other
international agreement which conflicts with this
Constitution shall not be of any force or effect.


• Section 2. An international agreement other
than a treaty shall become effective as internal
law in the United States only by an act of the
Congress.

Ferguson-Knowland Substitute To S.J. Res. 1
(February 2, 1954)
• Section 1. A provision of a treaty or other
international agreement which conflicts with this
Constitution shall not be of any force or effect.


• Section 2. Clause 2 of Article VI of the
Constitution of the United States is hereby
amended by adding at the end thereof the
following: 'Notwithstanding the foregoing
provisions of this clause, no treaty made after
the establishment of this Constitution shall be
the supreme law of the land unless made in
pursuance of this Constitution.

• Section 3. On the question of advising and
consenting to the ratification of a treaty the
vote shall be determined by yeas and nays and the
names of the persons voting for and against shall
be entered on the Journal of the Senate.

Bricker Substitute To S.J. Res. 1 - February 4,
1954
• Section 1. Clause 2 of Article VI of the
Constitution of the United States is hereby
amended by adding at the end thereof the
following: 'Notwithstanding the foregoing
provisions of this clause, no treaty made after
the establishment of this Constitution shall be
the supreme law of the land unless made in
pursuance of this Constitution.

• Section 2. A provision of a treaty or other
international agreement which conflicts with this
Constitution shall not be of any force or effect.


• Section 3. A treaty or other international
agreement shall become effective as internal law
in the United States only through legislation by
the Congress unless in advising and consenting to
a treaty the Senate, by a vote of two-thirds of
the Senators present and voting, shall provide
that such treaty may become effective as internal
law without legislation by Congress.

• Section 4. On the question of advising and
consenting to the ratification of a treaty the
vote shall be determined by yeas and nays and the
names of the persons voting for and against shall
be entered on the Journal of the Senate.

S.J. Res. 181, 83rd Congress - August 7, 1954
• Section 1. A provision of a treaty or other
international agreement which conflicts with this
Constitution, or which is not made in pursuance
thereof, shall not be the supreme law of the land
nor be of any force or effect.

• Section 2. A treaty or other international
agreement shall become effective as internal law
in the United States only through legislation
valid in the absence of international agreement.

• Section 3. On the question of advising and
consenting to the ratification of a treaty, the
vote shall be determined by yeas and nays, and
the
names of the persons voting for and against shall
be entered on the Journal of the Senate.

S.J. Res. 1, 84th Congress - January 6, 1955]
This was identical to S.J. Res. 181, 83rd
Congress.

S.J. Res. 3, 85th Congress - January 7, 1957
• Section 1. A provision of a treaty or other
international agreement not made in pursuance of
this Constitution shall have no force or effect.
This section shall not apply to treaties made
prior to the effective date of this Constitution.


• Section 2. A treaty or other international
agreement shall have legislative effect within
the
United States as a law thereof only through
legislation, except to the extend that the Senate
shall provide affirmatively, in its resolution
advising and consenting to a treaty, that the
treaty shall have legislative effect.

• Section 3. An international agreement other
than a treaty shall have legislative effect
within
the United States as a law thereof only through
legislation valid in the absence of such an
international agreement.

• Section 4. On the question of advising and
consenting to the ratification of a treaty, the
vote shall be determined by yeas and nays, and
the
names of the persons voting for and against shall
be entered on the Journal of the Senate.

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YES WE CAN
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It's "supersede" and not "supercede" tell the moran who wrote that article.


su&#8901;per&#8901;sede&#8194;&#8194;/&#716;sup&#601;r&#712;s​id/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [soo-per-seed] Show IPA
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–verb (used with object), -sed&#8901;ed, -sed&#8901;ing. 1. to replace in power, authority, effectiveness, acceptance, use, etc., as by another person or thing.
2. to set aside or cause to be set aside as void, useless, or obsolete, usually in favor of something mentioned; make obsolete: They superseded the old statute with a new one.
3. to succeed to the position, function, office, etc., of; supplant.


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Origin:
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Related forms:

su&#8901;per&#8901;sed&#8901;a&#8901;ble, adjective
su&#8901;per&#8901;sed&#8901;er, noun
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who is gonna stop him
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You are absolutely correct!

He also CANNOT give away his Presidential Powers to anyone else (as in the case of his American born Chinese Commerce Secretary) which he did do (unlawfully) according to the Federal Register, so that the Secretary of Commerce could go to China and negotiate over the $1Trillion owed the Chinese and stolen by Bushco.
[WHY ISN'T OBAMA MAKING BUSHCO PAY THIS BACK? Ya, sure, you betcha!]

The Commerce Secretary then went off to China and, under authority of acting in place of the President, allegedly traded away the $1Trillion debt by giving the Chinese NATO's nuclear codes(!); as well as the codes which allow the Chinese a full 20 second pre-aware to all trading in many of the big trading houses around the world. Allegedly, the Chinese have already enriched themselves by 3.8T$ in the past 72 hours.

It appears that the Chinese have been put in a position to own the entire world.

If this is true (and anytime I think something about Obama might not be true, I just take a gander at the Health (Slave) Care Bill) then Obama and his Commerce Secretary are up to their necks in Treason AGAINST THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE *REAL* ONE.

Reference: tom Heneghan's explosive latest!
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Global Warming is STILL a HOAX!
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This is pretty funny, because you're basing everything on the assumption that they are going to play by the rules. If you rewrite the rules, you have essentially created the rules, and you can change them to your favor.
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you will know the season in which he is coming to catch his bride...
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If you’ve been hearing this over the mass media
– and from Lord Monckton – it is NOT true.

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Some of you may have noticed that, after reading the article posted, the Bricker amendment was voted down. This is the one thing the Founders had not considered, and is the one weakness of the entire Constitution.

Obama CAN supercede the Constitution with a Treaty, and even if all fifty states hate the idea, they have to comply... but as some have mentioned, the final say still rests on the shoulders of the Senate. It requires a 2/3 vote to pass, so unless anyone has any brilliant ideas, all we can do is hold our breath...
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bsflag

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There are so many examples of how treaties have been used to undermine this country it isn't funny.

Quit posting untruths.
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I believe your judges are already choosing to adhere to international treaties rather than the constitution in cetain circumstances.
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Someone still believes the constitution has any effect?

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go to the united nations site. its there. i have it in one of my threads from way back. im to lazy to go digging. the UN states any member (country) must be in compliance. anotherwords the UN trumps any country's laws, constitutions etc.

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He also "cannot" without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State" Yet he is the head of the UN security council.
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go to the united nations site. its there. i have it in one of my threads from way back. im to lazy to go digging. the UN states any member (country) must be in compliance. anotherwords the UN trumps any country's laws, constitutions etc.

total sell out & suckage no?
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Complete and total suckage.
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He also "cannot" without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State" Yet he is the head of the UN security council.
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He can also not legally accept the Nobel Nothing Prize, but he is anyway.
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It's "supersede" and not "supercede" tell the moran who wrote that article.


su&#8901;per&#8901;sede&#8194;&#8194;/&#716;sup&#601;r&#712;s​id/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [soo-per-seed] Show IPA
Use supersede in a Sentence
See web results for supersede
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–verb (used with object), -sed&#8901;ed, -sed&#8901;ing. 1. to replace in power, authority, effectiveness, acceptance, use, etc., as by another person or thing.
2. to set aside or cause to be set aside as void, useless, or obsolete, usually in favor of something mentioned; make obsolete: They superseded the old statute with a new one.
3. to succeed to the position, function, office, etc., of; supplant.


-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

Origin:
1485–95; < L supersed&#275;re to sit above or upon, forbear, equiv. to super- super- + sed&#275;re to sit 1

Related forms:

su&#8901;per&#8901;sed&#8901;a&#8901;ble, adjective
su&#8901;per&#8901;sed&#8901;er, noun


Moron

1. Idiot: a person of subnormal intelligence.

2. A GLP member who can't spell moron correctly, yet who is quick to criticize others for misspelling a word.

3. A GLP member who hasn't learned by now that special characters pasted from online dictionaries don't work in GLP and just create a mess of jumbled code.

4. Bluebird.
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IT'S A SAD DAY FOR GLP, I USE TO HAVE A KAT THEN MY DAUG ATE A BIGG BONNE AFTER I FALLED OF MY CHARE! Come on folks it's just a typo!
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OK! Then how did he become Leader of the free world by giving his word he has a US Passport... answer that and I would feel a lot better about this subject.
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Some of you may have noticed that, after reading the article posted, the Bricker amendment was voted down. This is the one thing the Founders had not considered, and is the one weakness of the entire Constitution.

Obama CAN supercede the Constitution with a Treaty, and even if all fifty states hate the idea, they have to comply... but as some have mentioned, the final say still rests on the shoulders of the Senate. It requires a 2/3 vote to pass, so unless anyone has any brilliant ideas, all we can do is hold our breath...
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Didn't Bush sign the North American Prosperity Partnership Agreement paving the way for the NAU?
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'It's just a goddamned piece of paper'

- George Bush

You think this new clown sees it any differently?
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Unless you are prepared to msuter "by that rude bridge that arched the flood". Then he will do any-frickin-thing he wants.

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