There are not so many people ill in Romania, but the former secretary of health, Streinu, induced the panic and fear in public opinion. So, that's why all the hospitals are in quarantine, in Romania. In Ukraine the situation is far worse.
The most interesting part of this crisis in Romania is the declaration of the actual president, who opposed that millions of vaccines to be imported from USA and EU.
The Grey Knight User ID: 676936 11/3/2009 10:46 AM
Some links from the Romanian press, from today:
[link to www.ziua.ro]
Google translation:
The worst scenario drawn up by the Steering Committee for swine flu considering a virus attack rate of 30% with a mortality rate of 2.5%, or 150,000 dead. There is an official version with a minimal rate, "a MIZIL" 20,000 dead, as he describes Secretary of State for Health, Adrian Streinu Cercel. Until yesterday, in Romania were registered 555 cases, of which only 174 are still in treatment, the remaining people being healed. There has been no death, unlike our neighbors where there are 67 dead Ukrainians killed by AH1N1. Steering Committee for Avian yesterday took the decision to establish quarantines in all hospitals in the country and to mobilize all family physicians to the action of pandemic vaccination. "Romania has a sufficient stock for the present situation, about 400,000 doses of antiviral drugs, and in the acquisition procedure also was about 1.4 million doses. Pandemic vaccination will be brought forward and will begin in late November, around 26 date, "he said Streinu Cercel. Also on Tuesday were suspended and 153 School in Bucharest where five patients were registered for swine flu. Five cases occurred in Iasi at the National College and Agricultural High School. In parallel with AH1N1, circulating seasonal influenza virus, the Romans and can protect themselves by buying the vaccines are free of pharmacies. Some politicians in the campaign in meetings with tens of thousands of people, only his staff, confirmed vaccination candidate Traian Basescu.
It is important to know that a swine flu manifests as usual, and the symptoms of fever, fatigue, loss of appetite, cough, sore throat or runny nose, you should see your medical emergency. Swine flu is transmitted from person to person by contact, talking, coughing or sneezing. Pharmacies can be purchased only virus protection masks that cost between 10 and 36 cash each.
Although so far there was no death, forecasts for Romania are still grim, Secretary of State for Health Adrian Streinu Cercel advancing in the worst case scenario figures like 30% attack rate of A/H1N1 virus, with a rate mortality of 2.5%. I mean, to a possible illness of about seven million Romanians, more than 150,000 could lose their life. Responding yesterday to questions referring to possible figure of 20,000 dead Romans because of flu in November, Streinu Cercel said: "The scenario that the 20,000 dead? Is one of the official, but it is minimal, this is MIZIL. Romania recorded 555 cases of flu yesterday new, of which - 174 patients were still in therapy and healing rest. On the other hand, authorities considering whether to make criminal complaints against persons who, although diagnosed with flu new, not been isolated at home. They may be punishable by criminal fine or imprisonment up to two years, considering that voluntarily spread the virus.
"Increasing the number of confirmed cases is caused by the penetration and spread of A/H1N1 virus in local children and young people in the counties of Iasi, Dolj, Prahova and in Bucharest. As a result of this situation yesterday, the Steering Committee for Avian decided that all hospitals to get into quarantine (sick visits will be limited and will be restricted number apartinatorilor to have access to hospital) emergency receiving unit will be organized separate streams triage patients with influenza, all family physicians will be mobilized the action of pandemic vaccination. this week and antiviral medicines will be distributed to county hospitals of infectious diseases, for emergency and budget will be allocated MS 27 million lei to hospitals in affected areas - the acquisition of materials protection, masks, disinfectants, gasoline to transport evidence. "Romania has a sufficient stock for the present situation, about 400,000 doses of antiviral drugs, and in the acquisition procedure also was about 1.4 million doses. Vaccination pandemic will be brought forward and will begin in late November, around 26 ", said Streinu Cercel. The Secretary of State announced it was ceased purchase of one million doses of pandemic vaccine on the open market because all bids were as distribution within 2010. For starters, taking into account pandemic vaccination of healthcare professionals, students and students from the two outbreaks, in Iasi and Bucharest, the border police personnel from the border with Ukraine and inhabitants of villages in the area. How many doses will be distributed 50,000 university of Craiova, Cluj, Timisoara, Targu Mures, Constanta and Brasov.
Schools closed
In the capital, classes were suspended at School 153, after being confirmed five new cases of influenza. Five new cases of influenza A/H1N1 was confirmed yesterday, and in Iasi, two students at National College in the city and three other young people learn the Agricultural High School and attended a class at the Agricultural High School, last week suspended because a new influenza case, remain closed.
Symptoms
Signs of infection with swine flu are similar to those of seasonal flu. Infected persons may have fever, fatigue, loss of appetite, cough, sore throat or runny nose. Some people infected with influenza A/H1N1 had vomiting and diarrhea. Because influenza is transmitted from person to person, both by air (talking, sneezing, coughing), and by direct contact with the patient or his various personal objects contaminated with secretions his nazofaringiene, to avoid the disease is recommended to cover nose and mouth with handkerchief while sneezing or coughing personal. Personal handkerchiefs not borrow. Mana will be taken to the eyes or the mouth until it was washed with water and soap. Will be avoided wherever possible congestion and close contact with persons with clinical evidence of acute respiratory obvious. People with flu-like symptoms will be isolated from the rest of the family and will present to the family doctor for diagnosis and therapeutic behavior.
Vaccines "seasonally" in pharmacies
Despite the growing danger of new flu alert amid appearance and seasonal influenza in Bucharest pharmacies are queues for the purchase of seasonal influenza vaccines or immunostimulating. In most pharmacies can be purchased seasonal influenza vaccine: Fluarix - 36.25 Euro / dose Vaxigrip - 32 lei / dose and Influvac - 29.50 Euro / dose. Also, pharmacies in large distribution networks have a sufficient range of immunostimulating from septilin syrup at a price of 28 lei, up to echinflu, 24 lei. Some pharmacists told us yesterday that sales were pretty significant seasonal flu shot since September. It is however mentioned that seasonal influenza vaccine does not protect you in the face of pandemic flu, and in November when flu vaccine will not sell on the open market. Against influenza in November, pharmacies are health protective masks in stock at prices ranging between 10 and 36 cash money piece.
AH1N1 progressing rapidly in Europe
While the new regions of Ukraine have entered into quarantine and at least 67 people have died from swine flu and acute respiratory infections, the government in Kiev made contradictory statements. Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko held yesterday that the deaths in the last period were not caused by virus AH1N1 but virozele season.
In turn, the authorities in Sofia have announced that a third death was registered in Bulgaria. A flu epidemic has been declared already in cities Nicopol, Vrata, Samokov, Varna, Bourgas and Targoviste region, Yambol, Gabrovo. In addition, all schools in the cities of Burgas, Gabrovo, Varna and Yambol were temporarily closed due to high number of students infected with the flu.
Health Ministry warned in Budapest, also yesterday, that although Hungary is not facing an epidemic of influenza, situation in the neighboring country, Ukraine, create an emergency situation in Hungarian cities. Last week, 14,600 people were registered with flu symptoms, less than in the previous week. The virus spreads rapidly in Italy, where the number of persons who died as a result of contacting the virus has reached 13. National Association of pediatricians in Italy has requested a change in national vaccination program so that children have priority, notes the newspaper La Stampa. In Turkey, balance new flu deaths of six, after two people died yesterday in Ankara.
"No payment" on the case of the flu
What he failed Pogea minister for nine months is about to succeed in the swine flu soon: entry teachers in a holiday "voluntary-mandatory" for a week. Teachers do not know yet if and how they will be paid during the suspension rates, because the authorities have failed it, although they provided the situation.
Specifically, the Plan of measures to prevent and limit the disease by influenza A/H1N1 in the units of public and private education system clearly states that "the emergence of new flu cases in three different classes involve closing the school for seven days. But the document does not contain any reference to what will happen to pay teachers and support staff in the week to suspend classes. These people are sick in case it would go on sick leave - but neither can sustain their hours, and not their fault.
Why the plan makes no reference to how the pay of teachers may be that belongs to the Ministry of Health (Order no. 1094 being issued by John Bazac, on September 10, before withdrawing from the government) and not the Ministry of Education , who is employed. However, teachers seem to be forgotten by everyone, because neither the Bucharest School Inspectorate has no idea what will be paid by a week the school closed. So far, in primary education is vacant, but as the flu is just the onset, it is expected that, phased or groups, schools, kindergartens and universities do not escape the week of removal. Marian Banu ISMB spokesman, told us that the situation is under control. "We kindly asked to send parents to not panic because the country is not an end, we closed a single school of 457 total. (...) About how teachers will be paid while staying home, I'm hard to tell now, you should consult a lawyer ", we said Banu.
Basescu is vaccinated
Deputy PDL Voinescu Sever, a spokesman for presidential candidate Traian Basescu told us that the incumbent head of state to flu shot. As regards staff's Basescu's campaign, said Voinescu, "This is a private question, which can not respond".
First Vice-President Liberal Ludovic Orban told us that staff Crin Antonescu's campaign has not yet thought of vaccination against influenza in November of the Liberal candidate. "And Mr Antonescu, and colleagues to participate in events that are thousands of people. There is a risk factor, but confess that we have not thought about that. Perhaps one to think," said Orban. Social Democratic leaders, led by president Mircea Geoana, did not want to comment on whether or not have taken precautionary measures against influenza in November. Candidate's campaign team Sorin Oprescu not answered if the doctor was vaccinated against influenza in November. (C.G.P.; C.A.; I.S.C., D.C.)
The Grey Knight User ID: 676936 11/3/2009 10:50 AM
Another info from Romania, from an anti-system site:
Google translate:
During a pandemic virus in particular is important that our diet is varied and balanced. Lack of vitamins and microelements have a negative impact on body-depleted and makes it more vulnerable.
Ascorbic acid (vitamin C), citric and other organic acids, vitamin E, zinc, selenium, copper, magnesium, iodine and iron are necessary to protect against viruses. These elements combined strengthen the immune system.
But do not excessive zeal! The body can be overwhelmed if you manage these substances to excess. It is also recommended to replace sweets and sugar-honey and dried fruits are healthier and do not contain excess fat.
1. Water with lemon
During a flu pandemic is good to start your day with a glass of water bind with lemon water be at room temperature in the glass and squeeze a lemon segment. You can add a little honey. During the day drink so much water that it would consume all the lemons. We thus Fill ascorbic and citric acid.
Besides, citric acid has a beneficial effect on the circulatory system, the blood vessels. Requirements of ascorbic acid (vitamin C) is 70 mg. But during a flu pandemic is to want to raise this amount to 500 mg daily.
2. Cereals
You need selenium to increase body resistance to infection. Cereals are a good source of selenium. Garlic also contains more selenium.
3. Citrus fruit and kiwi
During the day as well as the addition of lemon cocktail to eat one serving of citrus. 2 kiwi fruits contain daily requirement of vitamin C. If you are allergic to citrus replace them with apple-and they contain acids necessary to protect you from viruses. Alternative: apple or wine vinegar.
4. Nuts
Walnuts contain vitamin E, zinc, copper, magnesium-all are essential to maintain the body's immunity to optimal rates. Daily ration of nuts: 50 grams. Vitamin E is also found in vegetable oil: sunflower or corn.
5. Pisces
Fish and shellfish are rich in iodine, which improves immunity. Type of Omega 3 fatty acids than improve blood circulation.
6. Meat
The low level of iron negatively affects the body's ability to protect itself from infection. This is especially important for women and especially during menstruation when the body loses a significant amount of iron.
The most easily treated type of iron is in pork, beef and especially in the liver. Vegetarians may use the spirulina (an algae, is found in herbal pharmacies in various forms, n.tr.).
7. Garlic and onion
These vegetables contain volatile compounds with antibacterial effect. Caution should be used raw as the food had lost its curative properties.
It is advisable to make inhalations or to be consumed raw garlic and onion.
8. Echinacea and ginseng
Echinacea tea, tincture of echinacea (natural pharmacy is also found in the pods n.tr) or substantially ginseng help the body in fighting infections and other problems. Are especially useful in winter when low temperatures and dim light are perceived by the body as stress factors leading to weakening defense capabilities. It's better but talking to your doctor before you take these Hardeners.
9. Cabbage and potatoes
There are additional sources of vitamin C or gogonele sauerkraut are also sources of organic acids.
Technically quaranteen of a country is a quick, cheap, and easy way to put up a wall, reminiscent of something like the Berlin Wall. The solution to most problems is generally close at hand.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 804655 11/3/2009 11:41 AM
look moron- i posted on this thread afor you- i know it is hard for your pea brain to grasp-
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 809247
. .
This is actually kinda funny ... and correct, lol.
After all, "Anonymous Coward" has been posting here since day one!
. . “ Put on the whole armor of God … for our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the wickedness of the evil spirits in the heavens. …” ~ from Ephesians 6:11-12
Anonymous Coward User ID: 809519 11/3/2009 12:32 PM
LOL, we all thought it was the USA that was going to get Martial Law but it appears the PTB have their sights set on Eastern Europe. Strange to say the least.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 765273 11/3/2009 12:32 PM
are ANY mainstream sources reporting anything on Ukraine and/or Romania?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 781451
The Weather Channel just talked about Romania and Ukrane! No kidding. Showed people walking around with masks and such...saying the flu is really bad there, blah blah blah. No real info...
Anonymous Coward User ID: 778753 11/3/2009 12:34 PM
LOL, we all thought it was the USA that was going to get Martial Law but it appears the PTB have their sights set on Eastern Europe. Strange to say the least.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 809519
Wait until this shows up in NYC or Chicago or L.A...
I think when it comes to panic nobody does it as well as an uneducated American.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 809519 11/3/2009 12:36 PM
LOL, we all thought it was the USA that was going to get Martial Law but it appears the PTB have their sights set on Eastern Europe. Strange to say the least.
Wait until this shows up in NYC or Chicago or L.A...
I think when it comes to panic nobody does it as well as an uneducated American.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778753
hmmmm, Most of Eastern Europe is pretty superstitious and uneducated, to many years under the Bolsheviks I guess.
Another info from Romania, from an anti-system site:
Google translate:
During a pandemic virus in particular is important that our diet is varied and balanced. Lack of vitamins and microelements have a negative impact on body-depleted and makes it more vulnerable.
Ascorbic acid (vitamin C), citric and other organic acids, vitamin E, zinc, selenium, copper, magnesium, iodine and iron are necessary to protect against viruses. These elements combined strengthen the immune system.
But do not excessive zeal! The body can be overwhelmed if you manage these substances to excess. It is also recommended to replace sweets and sugar-honey and dried fruits are healthier and do not contain excess fat.
1. Water with lemon
During a flu pandemic is good to start your day with a glass of water bind with lemon water be at room temperature in the glass and squeeze a lemon segment. You can add a little honey. During the day drink so much water that it would consume all the lemons. We thus Fill ascorbic and citric acid.
Besides, citric acid has a beneficial effect on the circulatory system, the blood vessels. Requirements of ascorbic acid (vitamin C) is 70 mg. But during a flu pandemic is to want to raise this amount to 500 mg daily.
2. Cereals
You need selenium to increase body resistance to infection. Cereals are a good source of selenium. Garlic also contains more selenium.
3. Citrus fruit and kiwi
During the day as well as the addition of lemon cocktail to eat one serving of citrus. 2 kiwi fruits contain daily requirement of vitamin C. If you are allergic to citrus replace them with apple-and they contain acids necessary to protect you from viruses. Alternative: apple or wine vinegar.
4. Nuts
Walnuts contain vitamin E, zinc, copper, magnesium-all are essential to maintain the body's immunity to optimal rates. Daily ration of nuts: 50 grams. Vitamin E is also found in vegetable oil: sunflower or corn.
5. Pisces
Fish and shellfish are rich in iodine, which improves immunity. Type of Omega 3 fatty acids than improve blood circulation.
6. Meat
The low level of iron negatively affects the body's ability to protect itself from infection. This is especially important for women and especially during menstruation when the body loses a significant amount of iron.
The most easily treated type of iron is in pork, beef and especially in the liver. Vegetarians may use the spirulina (an algae, is found in herbal pharmacies in various forms, n.tr.).
7. Garlic and onion
These vegetables contain volatile compounds with antibacterial effect. Caution should be used raw as the food had lost its curative properties.
It is advisable to make inhalations or to be consumed raw garlic and onion.
8. Echinacea and ginseng
Echinacea tea, tincture of echinacea (natural pharmacy is also found in the pods n.tr) or substantially ginseng help the body in fighting infections and other problems. Are especially useful in winter when low temperatures and dim light are perceived by the body as stress factors leading to weakening defense capabilities. It's better but talking to your doctor before you take these Hardeners.
9. Cabbage and potatoes
There are additional sources of vitamin C or gogonele sauerkraut are also sources of organic acids.
Quoting: The Grey Knight 676936
I agree with everything in this post........
my first reaction to the o.p. was the hospitals themselves....
this is the bottom line people....
all hospitals are controlled by the establishment...
they follow international medical procedures....
which means vaccines....
as a norm for this program...
if you go to a hospital they won`t be giving you vitamin c as a remedy (which can literally save your life if you have any virus)....
which means two things....
not only will you be given the poison (vaccines)...
you will also be denied the antidote as well ( vitamin C)....
vitamin c is a very simple substance that you can buy just about anywhere....
LOL, we all thought it was the USA that was going to get Martial Law but it appears the PTB have their sights set on Eastern Europe. Strange to say the least.
Wait until this shows up in NYC or Chicago or L.A...
I think when it comes to panic nobody does it as well as an uneducated American.
hmmmm, Most of Eastern Europe is pretty superstitious and uneducated, to many years under the Bolsheviks I guess.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 809519
Yes, they are superstitious. But I doubt they freak out waiting for the govt to do everything for them and start burning down their own neighborhoods and looting everything in sight...
Anonymous Coward User ID: 809519 11/3/2009 12:56 PM
don't they show like aids babies in romanian hospitals that they don't really care for or feed correctly and stuff?
they really need to quarintein them as well
as a mtter of fact i think the us lifed a ban on letting aids people in the US
now correct me if i am ewrong but isn't letting aids patients in from different countries kinda stupid?
i mean did we have a vote and every one said- yes - lets let poor HIV infected people emigrate here because it is good for our country and our population and our helath care system to have aids patie3nts from god knows where in the sytem
Anonymous Coward User ID: 507139 11/3/2009 1:53 PM
don't they show like aids babies in romanian hospitals that they don't really care for or feed correctly and stuff?
they really need to quarintein them as well
as a mtter of fact i think the us lifed a ban on letting aids people in the US
now correct me if i am wrong but isn't letting aids patients in from different countries kinda stupid?
i mean did we have a vote and every one said- yes - lets let poor HIV infected people emigrate here because it is good for our country and our population and our helath care system to have aids patie3nts from god knows where in the sytem
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 809492
The American Red Cross assures us they won't use your donated blood if you have HIV. However, they will still take it. I've always wondered what they REALLY do with all the blood they say they don't use? They also will not accept your blood donation if you assure them you are included in the list of people who are coming from prohobited countries known to have HIV rampant in the population. The solution to most problems is generally close at hand.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 503234 11/3/2009 3:46 PM
and obama care has what to do with Romania placing hospitals under quarentine how?
obama haters- beyond stupid
The evidence is clear- Romania knows that the bio war is on-
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 809247
yea we do
but we also have our own vaccine and one of the best microbiologists in the world
USSR socialist labor,lol
All the Warsaw Pact countries had to be specialized in some kind of warfare
Ruskies took the nukes
Bulgarians took the chemical bombs
And we were left with the diseases,lol Lucifer.Zalmoxe.Hermes.Kaital II.Toth.Ram.Apollo.Jesus.Enki.Osiris.Saturn.Lucian Ilea.Nimrod.Marduk.Jade Emperor.Alexandru.Silver Pahishah.Quetzalcoatl.Caligulas.Popocatepetl.Dan.Julius Caesar.Light Bringer
We are in the last stages of our planetary little drama
All the posts of this energy being have absolutely no connection with stupidity or ignorance,so read them at your own risk!
There are 650 sick people here in Romania
all hospitlas and several schools are under quarantine
there are 1.3 million vaccines available
new medical equipment will be bought,the Supreme Council for Country Defense decided today(no vaccines though) Lucifer.Zalmoxe.Hermes.Kaital II.Toth.Ram.Apollo.Jesus.Enki.Osiris.Saturn.Lucian Ilea.Nimrod.Marduk.Jade Emperor.Alexandru.Silver Pahishah.Quetzalcoatl.Caligulas.Popocatepetl.Dan.Julius Caesar.Light Bringer
We are in the last stages of our planetary little drama
All the posts of this energy being have absolutely no connection with stupidity or ignorance,so read them at your own risk!
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