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| Tommy
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11/3/2009 9:54 AM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
lmao eat that god lovers!
where was your jesus back then?!
lmao Quoting: Tommy
also its just stones
how would they know this is 200.000 years old?
just cuz the stones are that old doesnt mean they have been arranged like that forever |
| Enlilson 
The Sons of Enlil live.
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11/3/2009 10:03 AM
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It would seem to be an outpost that developed after an ice age.
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| weedsmoker
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11/3/2009 10:07 AM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
We don't use carbon-14 dating to date anything older than 4-5000 years old... that article claims these sites were dated with carbon-14 dating. LOL.
We have MUCH better ways of dating artifacts and sites than carbon-14, but then again the person who wrote this article was clearly just making it up and so wouldn't know this basic archaeological fact.
the article says there was nothing to carbon date so you might want to read it again |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 10:08 AM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
The dating methodology does seem suspect. |
| disciple777
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11/3/2009 10:15 AM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
lmao eat that god lovers!
where was your jesus back then?!
lmao Quoting: Tommy
LMAO ... some internet dork write a blog about "ancient dwellings" and you atheists take that fact. It sure doesn't take much to convince you guys. You should also check out that guy's blog about Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny ... you may have some more fun facts to catch up on there buddy. LOL |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 10:17 AM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
lmao eat that god lovers!
where was your jesus back then?!
lmao Quoting: Tommy
But it does show how stupid humans are.
From that point in time it took 160-200 thousand years to become globalized and to create electricity.
lol |
| machobird
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11/3/2009 10:17 AM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
I don't think the article said they used carbon 14 to date the site. They used astronomical calculations and other means.
This story rings true for me. Gold has been treasured since before all written history. Why? It's just another metal, too soft for much use.
Sitchen says the Annunaki needed it for their atmosphere, found it here on earth and mined it.
Makes so much sense.
machobird |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 10:20 AM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
There's no actual evidence its that old. Why are you people believing this? |
| machobird
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11/3/2009 10:28 AM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
The age is subject to interpretation. See below. Why would you NOT believe it to be accurate?
"The first rough calculation was at least 25,000 years ago. But new and more precise measurements kept increasing the age. The next calculation was presented by a master archaeoastronomer who wishes to remain anonymous for fear of ridicule by the academic fraternity. His calculation was also based on the rise of Orion and suggested an age of at least 75,000 years. The most recent and most acurate calculation, done in June 2009, suggests an age of at least 160,000 years, based on the rise of Orion -- flat on the horizon -- but also on the erosion of dolerite stones found at the site.
Some pieces of the marker stones had been broken off and sat on the ground, exposed to natural erosion. When the pieces were put back together about 3 cm of stone had already been worn away. These calculation helped assess the age of the site by calculating the erosion rate of the dolerite."
machobird |
| Enlilson
The Sons of Enlil live.
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11/3/2009 10:34 AM
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The earth is billions of years old why is this such a surprise or threat.
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| Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 10:37 AM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
There's no actual evidence its that old. Why are you people believing this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 797725
I don't think we should get all caught up on the age of the structures. Obviously they're old, pre-dating history... perhaps. Or, historically excluded/hidden (insert conspiracy here... this is GLP, right)? What was this place? Who were the inhabitants? What happened to them?
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| The Random Number
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11/3/2009 10:37 AM
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Why would you NOT believe it to be accurate?
Some pieces of the marker stones had been broken off and sat on the ground, exposed to natural erosion. When the pieces were put back together about 3 cm of stone had already been worn away. These calculation helped assess the age of the site by calculating the erosion rate of the dolerite." Quoting: machobird 752056
Cool method.
So no carbon 14 bitching, it's a redundant method in this case and would have been only ONE of many methods and techniques applied to the site.
The only reason people believe the dating on this site is not accurate is because it conflicts with their religious doctrine.
That's the truth.
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| Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 10:40 AM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
Why would you NOT believe it to be accurate?
Some pieces of the marker stones had been broken off and sat on the ground, exposed to natural erosion. When the pieces were put back together about 3 cm of stone had already been worn away. These calculation helped assess the age of the site by calculating the erosion rate of the dolerite."
Cool method.
So no carbon 14 bitching, it's a redundant method in this case and would have been only ONE of many methods and techniques applied to the site.
The only reason people believe the dating on this site is not accurate is because it conflicts with their religious doctrine.
That's the truth. Quoting: The Random Number
No. The reason why you doubt it is because they have to prove the date using reliable (not subjective) methods. The method produced here is quite subjective (and similar to creationists using dust on the moon to prove a young earth theory). The problem is not the idea, but rather, the question of "is it." If it is not, and treated as it is, that causes all kinds of problems. It is best to go with caution and to follow scientific methods -- once someone shows an unscientific approach, I smell bullshit. |
| Tommy
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11/3/2009 10:43 AM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
lmao eat that god lovers!
where was your jesus back then?!
lmao
LMAO ... some internet dork write a blog about "ancient dwellings" and you atheists take that fact. It sure doesn't take much to convince you guys. You should also check out that guy's blog about Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny ... you may have some more fun facts to catch up on there buddy. LOL Quoting: disciple777 803389
just so you know.... the pharaos lived way before jesus didaswell..
who made them?!
lmao |
| re
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11/3/2009 10:55 AM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
This is the city of 'SOL' that the egyptians talked about a bit like the greeks and atlantis.
This is one of the reasons that humanity was created to mine for gold for the alien creators. |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 10:59 AM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
Quite an amazing find and article OP 
For those too lazy to click the links at the bottom of each page, here's the rest of the story - picking up where the OP left off. . .
Where it was found
The area is significant for one striking thing -- gold. "The thousands of ancient gold mines discovered over the past 500 years, points to a vanished civilization that lived and dug for gold in this part of the world for thousands of years," says Tellinger. "And if this is in fact the cradle of humankind, we may be looking at the activities of the oldest civilization on Earth."
To see the number and scope of these ruins, I suggest that you use google-earth and start with the following coordinates:
Carolina -- 25 55' 53.28" S / 30 16' 13.13" E
Badplaas -- 25 47' 33.45" S / 30 40' 38.76" E
Waterval -- 25 38' 07.82" S / 30 21' 18.79" E
Machadodorp -- 25 39' 22.42" S / 30 17' 03.25" E
Then perform a low flying search inside the area formed by this rectangle. Simply Amazing!
Did gold play some role in the dense population that once lived here? The site is just about 150 miles from an excellent port where maritime trade could have helped to support such a large population. But remember -- we're talking almost 200,000 years ago!
The individual ruins [see below] mostly consist of stone circles. Most have been buried in the sand and are only observable by satellite or aircraft. Some have been exposed when the changing climate has blown the sand away, revealing the walls and foundations.
"I see myself as a fairly open-minded chap but I will admit that it took me well over a year for the penny to drop, and for me to realise that we are actually dealing with the oldest structures ever built by humans on Earth.
The main reason for this is that we have been taught that nothing of significance has ever come from southern Africa. That the powerful civilizations all emerged in Sumeria and Egypt and other places. We are told that until the settlement of the BANTU people from the north, which was supposed to have started sometime in the 12th century AD, this part of the world was filled by hunter gatherers and so-called Bushmen, who did not make any major contributions in technology or civilization." -- Tellinger
A Rich and Diverse History
When explorers first encountered these ruins, they assumed that they were cattle corals made by nomadic tribes, like the Bantu people, as they moved south and settled the land from around the 13th century. There was no previous historical record of any older civilization capable of building such a densly populated community. Little effort was made to investigate the site because the scope of the ruins was not fully known.
Over the past 20 years, people like Cyril Hromnik, Richard Wade, Johan Heine and a handful of others have discovered that these stone structures are not what the seem to be. In fact these are now believed to be the remains of ancient temples and astronomical observatories of lost ancient civilizations that stretch back for many thousands of years.
These circular ruins are spread over a huge area. They can only truly be appreciated from the air or through modern sattelite images. Many of them have almost completely eroded or have been covered by the movement of soil from farming and the weather. Some have survived well enough to reveal their great size [see above] with some original walls standing almost 5 feet high and over a meter wide in places.
Looking at the entire metropolis, it becomes obvious that this was a well planned community, developed by a highly evolved civilization. The number of ancient gold mines suggests the reason for the community being in this location. We find roads -- some extending a hundred miles -- that connected the community and terraced agriculture, closely resembling those found in the Inca settlements in Peru.
But one question begs for an answer -- how could this be achieved by humans 200,000 years ago?
How the Site was dated
Once the ruins were examined, the researchers were anxious to place the lost civilization in a historical perspective. The rocks were covered with a patina that looked very old but there were no items sufficient for carbon-14 dating. It was then that a chance discovery revealed the age of the site, and sent a chill down the spine of archaeologists and historians!
Dating the site:
Finding the remains of a large community, with as many as 200,000 people living and working together, was a major discovery in itself. But dating the site was a problem. The heavy patina on the rock walls suggested the structures were extremely old, but the science of dating patina is just being developed and is still controversial. Carbon-14 dating of such things as burnt wood introduces the possibility that the specimens could be from recent grass fires which are common in the area.
The breakthrough came quite unexpectedly. As Tellinger describes it:
"Johan Heine discovered Adam's Calendar in 2003, quite by accident. He was on route to find one of his pilots who crashed his plane on the edge of the cliff. Next to the crash site Johan noticed a very strange arrangement of large stones sticking out of the ground. While rescuing the injured pilot from about 20 metres down the side of the cliff, Johan walked over to the monoliths and immediately realised that they were aligned to the cardinal points of Earth -- north, south, east and west. There were at least 3 monoliths aligned towards the sunrise, but on the west side of the aligned monoliths there was a mysterious hole in the ground -- something was missing.
After weeks and months of measuring and observations, Johan concluded that it was perfectly aligned with the rise and fall of the Sun. He determined the solstices and the equinoxes. But the mysterious hole in the ground remained a big puzzle. One day, while contemplating the reason for the hole, the local horse trail expert, Christo, came riding by. He quickly explained to Johan that there was a strange shaped stone which had been removed from the spot some time ago. Apparently it stood somewhere near the entrance to the nature reserve.
After an extensive search, Johan found the anthropomorphic (humanoid shape) stone. It was intact and proudly placed with a plaque stuck to it. It had been used by the Blue Swallow foundation to commemorate the opening of the Blue Swallow reserve in 1994. The irony is that it was removed from the most important ancient site found to date and mysteriously returned to the reserve -- for slightly different reasons.
The exact location of the calendar is listed on www.makomati.com. The first calculations of the age of the calendar were made based on the rise of Orion, a constellation known for its three bright stars forming the "belt" of the mythical hunter.
The Earth wobbles on its axis and so the stars and constellations change their angle of presentation in the night sky on a cyclical basis. This rotation, called the precession completes a cycle about every 26,000 years. By determining when the three stars of Orion's belt were positioned flat (horizontal) against the horizon, we can estimate the time when the three stones in the calendar were in alignment with these conspicuous stars.
The first rough calculation was at least 25,000 years ago. But new and more precise measurements kept increasing the age. The next calculation was presented by a master archaeoastronomer who wishes to remain anonymous for fear of ridicule by the academic fraternity. His calculation was also based on the rise of Orion and suggested an age of at least 75,000 years. The most recent and most acurate calculation, done in June 2009, suggests an age of at least 160,000 years, based on the rise of Orion -- flat on the horizon -- but also on the erosion of dolerite stones found at the site.
Some pieces of the marker stones had been broken off and sat on the ground, exposed to natural erosion. When the pieces were put back together about 3 cm of stone had already been worn away. These calculation helped assess the age of the site by calculating the erosion rate of the dolerite.
Who made the metropolis? Why?
It would seem that humans have always valued gold. It is even mentioned in the Bible, describing the Garden of Eden's rivers:
Genesis 2:11 -- The name of the first [river] is Pishon; it flows around the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold.
South Africa is known as the largest gold producing country of the world. The largest gold producing area of the world is Witwatersrand, the same region where the ancient metropolis is found. In fact nearby Johannesburg, one of the best known cities of South Africa, is also named "Egoli" which means the city of gold.
It seems highly probable that the ancient metropolis was established because of its proximity to the largest supply of gold on the planet. But why would ancient people work so hard to mine gold? You can't eat it. It's too soft to use for tool making. It isn't really useful for anything except ornaments and its physical beauty is on a par with other metals like copper or silver. Exactly why was gold so important to early homo sapiens?
To explore the answer we need to look at the period of history in question -- 160,000 to 200,000 years BCE -- and learn what was happening on planet Earth.
What were humans like 160,000 years ago?
Modern humans, homo sapiens, can trace our ancestry back through time to a point where our species evolved from other, more primitive, hominids. Scientists do not understand why this new type of human suddenly appeared, or how the change happened, but we can trace our genes back to a single female that is known as "Mitochondrial Eve".
Mitochondrial Eve (mt-mrca) [Right: An artist's rendition] is the name given by researchers to the woman who is defined as the matrilineal most recent common ancestor (MRCA) for all currently living humans. Passed down from mother to offspring, all mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) in every living person is derived from this one female individual. Mitochondrial Eve is the female counterpart of Y-chromosomal Adam, the patrilineal most recent common ancestor, although they lived at different times.
Mitochondrial Eve is believed to have lived between 150,000 to 250,000 years BP, probably in East Africa, in the region of Tanzania and areas to the immediate south and west. Scientists speculate that she lived in a population of between perhaps 4000 to 5000 females capable of producing offspring at any given time. If other females had offspring with the evolutionary changes to their DNA we have no record of their survival. It appears that we are all descendants of this one human female.
Mitochondrial Eve would have been roughly contemporary with humans whose fossils have been found in Ethiopia near the Omo River and at Hertho. Mitochondrial Eve lived significantly earlier than the out of Africa migration which might have occurred some 60,000 to 95,000 years ago.
[right] The region in Africa where one can find the greatest level of mitochondrial diversity (green) and the region anthropologists postulated the most ancient division in the human population began to occur (light brown). The ancient metropolis in located in this latter (brown) region which also corresponds to the estimated age when the genetic changes suddenly happened.
Could this be a coincidence?
Ancient Sumerian history describes the ancient metropolis and its inhabitants!
I'll be honest with you. This next part of the story is difficult to write. It's so shocking that the average person will not want to believe it. If you are like me, you'll want to do the research yourself, then allow some time for the facts to settle in your mind.
We are often made to believe that the Egyptians -- the Pharoahs and pyramids -- are where our known history begins. The oldest dynasties go back some 3200 years BP. That's a long time ago. But the Sumerian civilization, in what is now Iraq, is much older. What's more, we have translated many of their history tablets, written in cuneiform and earlier scripts so we know a lot about their history and legends.
The seal image [above] depicts the legend of the "Great Flood" which consumed mankind. Many Sumerian legends are strikingly similar to Genesis. Like Genesis, the Sumerian legend, Atrahasis, tells the story of the creation of modern humans -- not by a loving God -- but by beings from another planet who needed "slave workers" to help them mine gold on their extra-planetary expedition!
I warned that this is difficult to believe, but please keep reading.
Who made the metropolis? Why?
This story, the Atrahasis, comes from an early Babylonian version of about 1700 BC, but it certainly dates back to Sumerian times. It combines familiar Sumerian motifs of the creation of mankind and the subsequent flood -- just like Genesis.
The story starts out with the "gods" -- beings from a planet called Nibiru -- digging ditches and mining for gold as part of an expeditionary team. Modern humans (homo sapiens) did not exist yet; only primitive hominids lived on Earth. There were two groups of "gods", the worker class and the ruling class (i.e. officers). The worker gods had built the infrastructure as well as toiled in the gold mines and, after thousands of years, the work was apparently too much for them.
The gods had to dig out the canals
Had to clear channels,
the lifelines of the land,
The gods dug out the Tigris river bed
And then they dug out the Euphrates. --(Dalley 9, Atrahasis)
After 3,600 years of this work, the gods finally begin to complain. They decide to go on strike, burning their tools and surrounding the chief god Enlil's "dwelling" (his temple). Enlil's vizier, Nusku, gets Enlil out of bed and alerts him to the angry mob outside. Enlil is scared. (His face is described as being "sallow as a tamarisk.") The vizier Nusku advises Enlil to summon the other great gods, especially Anu (sky-god) and Enki (the clever god of the fresh waters). Anu advises Enlil to ascertain who is the ringleader of the rebellion. They send Nusku out to ask the mob of gods who is their leader. The mob answers, "Every single one of us gods has declared war!" (Dalley 12, Atrahasis).
Since the upper-class gods now see that the work of the lower-class gods "was too hard," they decide to sacrifice one of the rebels for the good of all. They will take one god, kill him, and make mankind by mixing the god's flesh and blood with clay:
Belit-ili the womb-goddess is present,
Let the womb-goddess create offspring,
And let man bear the load of the gods! (Dalley 14-15, Atrahasis)
After Enki instructs them on purification rituals for the first, seventh and fifteenth of every month, the gods slaughter Geshtu-e, "a god who had intelligence" (his name means "ear" or "wisdom") and form mankind from his blood and some clay. After the birth goddess mixes the clay, all the gods troop by and spit on it. Then Enki and the womb-goddess take the clay into "the room of fate," where The womb-goddesses were assembled.
He [Enki] trod the clay in her presence;
She kept reciting an incantation,
For Enki, staying in her presence, made her recite it.
When she had finished her incantation,
She pinched off fourteen pieces of clay,
And set seven pieces on the right,
Seven on the left.
Between them she put down a mud brick. (Dalley 16, Atrahasis)
The creation of man seems to be described as a type of cloning and what we would today consider in vitro fertilization.
The result was a hybrid or "evolved human" with enhanced intellect who could perform the physical duties of the worker gods and also take care of the needs of all the gods.
We are told, in other texts, that the expedition came for gold and that great quantities were mined and shipped off the planet. The community in South Africa was called "Abzu" and was the prime location of the mining operation.
Since these events appear to coincide with the dates of "Mitochondrial Eve" (i.e. 150,000 to 250,000 BP) and appear to be located in the richest gold mining region on the planet (Abzu), some researchers are thinking that the Sumerian legends may, in fact, be based on historical events.
According to the same texts, once the mining expedition ended it was decided that the human population should be allowed to perish in a flood which was predicted by the atronomer of the "gods." Apparently, the cyclical passage of the home planet of the gods, Nibiru, was going to bring it close enough to the orbit of Earth that its gravity would cause the oceans to rise and flood the land, putting an end to the hybrid species -- homo sapiens.
According to the story, one of the "gods" had sympathy for a particular human, Zuisudra, and warned him to construct a boat to ride out the flood. This eventually became the basis for the story of Noah in the book of Genesis.
Did this really happen? The only other explanation is to imagine that the Sumerian legends, acknowledging life on other planets and human cloning, were extraordinary science-fiction. This in itself would be amazing. But we now have evidence that the mining city, Abzu, is real and that it existed in the same era as the sudden evolution of hominids to homo sapiens.
Just think about this for a while. |
| wormwood
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11/3/2009 11:04 AM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
"The thousands of ancient gold mines discovered over the past 500 years, points to a vanished civilization that lived and dug for gold in this part of the world for thousands of years," says Tellinger
Hmmm, Anunnaki maybe? It's exactly what the Sumerian tablets have been saying.
Taz
Not to distract from this thread, but I received an email last week from a friend on this article:
ANCIENT CITY FOUND,
IRRADIATED FROM ATOMIC BLAST
Harappa Ruins
"The ruins of the ancient cities of Mohenjo-Daro and Harappa are extremely radioactive.
Practically nothing is known of their histories, except that both were destroyed suddenly. In Mohenjo-Daro, in an epicentre 150 feet wide, everything was crystallised, fused or melted; 180 feet from the center the bricks are melted on one side, indicating a blast."
I think this reinforces OP's thread, There is still so much to discover from ancient times.
Here's the link:
[link to godssecret.wordpress.com]
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| Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 11:11 AM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
"The thousands of ancient gold mines discovered over the past 500 years, points to a vanished civilization that lived and dug for gold in this part of the world for thousands of years," says Tellinger
Hmmm, Anunnaki maybe? It's exactly what the Sumerian tablets have been saying.
Taz Quoting: Taz 775033
That thought crossed my mind as well. This could be the big ancient Anunnaki city where they genetically created humans to dig gold for them. It would be about the same time period that archeaologists say Homo Sapiens came to be. |
| Candace
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11/3/2009 11:30 AM
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YOU CAN'T EAT GOLD.
JUST KIDDING.
"It's part of an even larger community that is about 10,000 square miles..."
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I CALL BULLSHIT. 10,000 SQUARE MILES? THAT'S HALF THE SIZE OF NJ, FOR ONE COMMUNITY?
SORRY, ME NO BUY. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 787523
Well, earth history is NOT as taught in schools. There have been 5 previous advanced HUGE civilizations on this planet that are buried now and this is number 6 by the way that is going under.
The population of this planet has many times been 6 billion or more. Just because they got buried during axis changes and pole reversals, doesn't mean they didn't exist. There is huge evidence of old civilizations on this planet and people with much larger heads than we have. Dark side keeps it covered up by intent.
Half the size of New Jersey bothers you? Will just how big is the New York metropolis, or the huge metropolis that runs from there down to DC. Considerably larger than all of New Jersy probably.
How about where I live in Colorado? We are on the east slope forming a large metropolis that is not far from being contiguous from Ft. Collins to Pueblo. Common now, that's not bullshit at all.
How big is the LA basin? Probably larger than New Jersey. I don't really know on that, but it's big. There are huge communities all over the world in Asia. Mexico City is reported to be about 20 million people, how much space does it take up. Again I don't know, but a bunch.
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| Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 11:43 AM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
"The thousands of ancient gold mines discovered over the past 500 years, points to a vanished civilization that lived and dug for gold in this part of the world for thousands of years," says Tellinger
Hmmm, Anunnaki maybe? It's exactly what the Sumerian tablets have been saying.
Taz Quoting: Taz 775033
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| skylamer
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11/3/2009 11:43 AM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
i think homo sapiens is only from 40k yeares?????
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| Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 11:46 AM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
This was a good story, until he started blending into it Zecharia Sitchin's mistranslations. |
| ShadowDancer
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11/3/2009 11:52 AM
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homo sapiens have been here longer...
fallen ones are thieves and think themselves superior-but even Anu realized they were not as they thought...
stealing GOLD is more like it
One could have mountains of gold and they still wanted MORE
trying to enslave then by genetic manipulations and STILL trying to enslave now...and they still act like the pirates they are
USURPERS
I am glad the time of the 'end' is upon us-once they are confined-real LIGHT throughout can shine...
Last Edited by ShadowDancer on 11/3/2009 at 11:53 AM
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| White Widow
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11/3/2009 11:56 AM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
Dating the site:
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The first calculations of the age of the calendar were made based on the rise of Orion, a constellation known for its three bright stars forming the "belt" of the mythical hunter.
The Earth wobbles on its axis and so the stars and constellations change their angle of presentation in the night sky on a cyclical basis. This rotation, called the precession completes a cycle about every 26,000 years. By determining when the three stars of Orion's belt were positioned flat (horizontal) against the horizon, we can estimate the time when the three stones in the calendar were in alignment with these conspicuous stars.
The first rough calculation was at least 25,000 years ago. But new and more precise measurements kept increasing the age. The next calculation was presented by a master archaeoastronomer who wishes to remain anonymous for fear of ridicule by the academic fraternity. His calculation was also based on the rise of Orion and suggested an age of at least 75,000 years. The most recent and most acurate calculation, done in June 2009, suggests an age of at least 160,000 years, based on the rise of Orion -- flat on the horizon -- but also on the erosion of dolerite stones found at the site. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 751857
Archaeoastronomy - Earth Wobble and 26,000 years is perfectly clear, but....
Each 26,000 years Orion would be flat against the horizon, so how can they say it was 26,000 years ago or two whobbles ago, i.e. 52,000 years or even 7 whobbles ago (182,000 years).
Did I miss something? |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 11:57 AM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
Viewzone is an awesome site. I recommend going to the homepage and checking out the entire site. Their thoughts on 2012 are most interesting as well. I also like the info on ancient, worldwide common languages. |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 12:03 PM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
homo sapiens have been here longer...
fallen ones are thieves and think themselves superior-but even Anu realized they were not as they thought...
stealing GOLD is more like it
One could have mountains of gold and they still wanted MORE
trying to enslave then by genetic manipulations and STILL trying to enslave now...and they still act like the pirates they are
USURPERS
I am glad the time of the 'end' is upon us-once they are confined-real LIGHT throughout can shine... Quoting: ShadowDancer
Interesting comments. Would you care to speculate what the "fallen ones" wanted the gold for, Shadow Dancer? Anyone? |
| Miriam
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11/3/2009 12:08 PM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
Why didn't they want to know about it? It looks cool. I don't get it. I understand that the way they go about shit in archeology is dumb but really. At least acknowledge that it looks cool and you don't know what it is. |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/3/2009 12:14 PM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
Apologizing in advance for the thread drift, but the following link is somewhat pertinent:
[link to www.mondovista.com] |
| bed
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11/3/2009 12:16 PM
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It was the island. |
| Shady
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11/3/2009 12:26 PM | | Re: Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa - 160,000 to 200,000 BCE! | Quote |
Looks like Z. Sitchkin(not sure on spelling) was right after all, eh?
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