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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 550635
11/3/2009 5:40 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
THIS IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL! IT IS ASSAULT WITH A DEADLY WEAPON! AND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AN ATTACK ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!
They tried is MA, fail, they tried in NY, fail, now they are trying in HI.
Linda Lingle must be insane. She can't count, do research or make rational decissions on her own? If she could, she would not allow a mandate.
People should be really sick of this goverment trying to force vaccines on all the children.
I wonder how many navy families have kids in school out there. I bet a bunch. Not good. |
| human guinea pigs
User ID: 465669
11/3/2009 5:41 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
Eventually, she said, the Department of Health and the Hawai'i National Guard would be administering swine flu vaccine to the general public statewide.
"It's not just going to be children, or course," Lingle said. "It will be everybody."
Why would it be necessary for a heavily armed branch of the military to administer vaccines that were voluntary?
Is it more difficult to "Just say no",
when the man injecting you is wearing a military uniform
and is heavily armed?
Any passive aggressive psychology going on here?
As a military medic, I have been called upon to help in the ER here in Detroit as part of my weekend duty when I was a reservist. We do NOT arm ourselves to deliver medical treatment to civilians that are there VOLUNTARILY. The National Guard is state funded and can be tasked by the governor to aid in state funded vaccination programs. This does NOT mean that the vaccines are mandatory.
Your BS has taken this whole H1N1 vaccine protest several steps backwards.
Again, as I said in the post that was deleted, the fact that the NG has been asked to aid in the administration does NOT mean the military is giving MANDATORY vaccinations....IDIOT! How this gets a pin is f'ing beyond the pale! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 499547
You're right. They won't be mandatory.
If you don't let them vaccinate your children they won't be able to go to government funded schools (most schools).
If you don't let them vaccinate you, you will lose your government funded job (large portion of jobs in Hawaii).
If you don't let them vaccinate your family you will have to wear a mask everywhere so you are stigmatized.
Or, they might make people without vaccinations wear a yellow star. On second thought, Gov. Lingle wouldn't use that one. I think she is of Jewish ancestry and it might remind people of previous government experiments on people.
Besides, if everyone has been given an untested vaccine that really protects them from the flu, why would they worry about catching the flu from the un-vaccinated? |
| Kauai's lemons
User ID: 735442
11/3/2009 5:50 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
Ok, so you are a medic. " i never qouted the NG is armed, or arriving here armed. some others in thread may have, or implied. so what real justification does the guard have in administering the vaccines? to scare everyday folks? make them "think" a pandemic is really dangerous to them? spread MORE FLU mist, and vaccines? gee, nice psy-op, great! i appreciate your service to the country, i suggest you review Dr.Leonard Horowitz affidavit, and his site: Fluscam.com. or Oathkeepers.org. again, thanks for your hard work, and considering the issues.
As a military medic, I have been called upon to help in the ER here in Detroit as part of my weekend duty when I was a reservist. We do NOT arm ourselves to deliver medical treatment to civilians that are there VOLUNTARILY. The National Guard is state funded and can be tasked by the governor to aid in state funded vaccination programs. This does NOT mean that the vaccines are mandatory.
Your BS has taken this whole H1N1 vaccine protest several steps backwards.
Again, as I said in the post that was deleted, the fact that the NG has been asked to aid in the administration does NOT mean the military is giving MANDATORY vaccinations....IDIOT! How this gets a pin is f'ing beyond the pale!
Because you are in the military, you will be called a shill; instead of listening to a voice of reason they will make self-fulfilling prophecies of violent fights against soldiers. All because the flu shot is really some sort of horrible conspiracy created by Stalin to finally get even for Gorbachev. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 809427
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| The White House
User ID: 799732 (OP)
11/3/2009 5:55 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
We do NOT arm ourselves to deliver medical treatment to civilians that are there VOLUNTARILY.
False as evidenced by the above video which describes and details actual national guard training exercises.
The National Guard is state funded and can be tasked by the governor to aid in state funded vaccination programs. This does NOT mean that the vaccines are mandatory.
This is a classic straw-man argument. Funding is irrelevant. The governor of the state can and will impose mandatory vaccines by law in a state of emergency.
Your BS has taken this whole H1N1 vaccine protest several steps backwards.
I have merely presented data to be reviewed by those who are interested. Certainly there are those among us that would prefer this information wasn't reviewed by the public at large.
Again, as I said in the post that was deleted, the fact that the NG has been asked to aid in the administration does NOT mean the military is giving MANDATORY vaccinations....IDIOT!
Ad hominem attacks are a last resort to those who have failed to persuade others with ineffective straw-men arguments.
How this gets a pin is f'ing beyond the pale!
There are a few mod's here who can recognize important events as they unfold. They deserve recognition for that.
Because you are in the military, you will be called a shill; instead of listening to a voice of reason they will make self-fulfilling prophecies of violent fights against soldiers. All because the flu shot is really some sort of horrible conspiracy created by Stalin to finally get even for Gorbachev. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 809427
There are plenty of honorable men in the armed forces who are not shills. Illegal orders are not required to be followed. Many will honor their sworn oaths. |
| lolita
User ID: 809689
11/3/2009 6:00 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
REDRUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| The White House
User ID: 799732 (OP)
11/3/2009 6:05 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
Quoting: The White House 799732
Eventually, the Governor said, the Department of Health and the Hawai'i National Guard would be administering swine flu vaccine to the general public statewide.
"It's not just going to be children, or course,"
Lingle said.
"It will be everybody."
The Governor who has the authority to mandate vaccines for everybody in the State, says, "It will be everybody".
She didn't say,
"it will be available to everybody who wants it"
"It will be available to everybody"
Or
"It will be available for everybody"
If mandatory vaccinations are not on the clearly defined agenda, which they are, then why the chosen wording?
Why not a simple clarification? |
| SHOCKED PARENTS
User ID: 735442
11/3/2009 6:10 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
We do NOT arm ourselves to deliver medical treatment to civilians that are there VOLUNTARILY.
False as evidenced by the above video which describes and details actual national guard training exercises.
The National Guard is state funded and can be tasked by the governor to aid in state funded vaccination programs. This does NOT mean that the vaccines are mandatory.
This is a classic straw-man argument. Funding is irrelevant. The governor of the state can and will impose mandatory vaccines by law in a state of emergency.
Your BS has taken this whole H1N1 vaccine protest several steps backwards.
I have merely presented data to be reviewed by those who are interested. Certainly there are those among us that would prefer this information wasn't reviewed by the public at large.
Again, as I said in the post that was deleted, the fact that the NG has been asked to aid in the administration does NOT mean the military is giving MANDATORY vaccinations....IDIOT!
Ad hominem attacks are a last resort to those who have failed to persuade others with ineffective straw-men arguments.
How this gets a pin is f'ing beyond the pale!
There are a few mod's here who can recognize important events as they unfold. They deserve recognition for that.
Because you are in the military, you will be called a shill; instead of listening to a voice of reason they will make self-fulfilling prophecies of violent fights against soldiers. All because the flu shot is really some sort of horrible conspiracy created by Stalin to finally get even for Gorbachev.
There are plenty of honorable men in the armed forces who are not shills. Illegal orders are not required to be followed. Many will honor their sworn oaths. Quoting: The White House 799732
How many is the desired result, awareness to the "oathkeepers issue" is critical. coerced vaccinations, pys op vaccinations, intimidation, demonizing neighbors for not getting it, lies as to flu shot's safety and efficacy, unethical contents. the national guard has a RIGHT, to also preserve the clean bloodstream within themselves. many vaccines are a for profit FRAUD, tricking my nice neighbors who i happen to care for is not the way to go. taking pysch advantage of "everyday folks", disabled, poor, obviously a laughing attempt at de-pop control. i "respect" the NG Hawaii, bunch of kids doing a job! however, i am not weak minded and we do pay the taxes here, and we have rights to say NO...these flu vaccines are a total fear monger scam, the locals know just fine how to take care of them selves. DUH..PLENTY of VITAMIN C AND D AROUND HERE.  |
| Anka
User ID: 593875
11/3/2009 6:13 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
I have a cousin that got the vaccine for her daughters and her self. They say nothing happened, BUT I have noticed they have become more outspoken about getting the shot. They feel it is their civil duty to spread the idea. I have not heard from them in 6 months or so and then I start getting all kinds of propaganda from her. Telling me how I should get the shot for my self and my family and It would be wrong by denying them a free vaccine. She actually said the government has good doctors that have my best interest at heart. I think that is weird. But maybe it is just me.
That is weird!
Maybe Nanobots reprogram the brain to be an Government Obot...? Quoting: ExhaleAeonVolts
VERY LIKELY, which is why the authorities would like to vaccinate all of us. Not possible you say? Research nano-technology and mind-controltechnology. They've probably been desiring to do this for years. Which is why they're
wanting to vaccinate as many as possible, completely ignoring the fact that there's no threatening disease. What do they care? Logic has NOTHING to do with it. |
| Diety's toolshed
User ID: 735442
11/3/2009 6:29 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
I have a cousin that got the vaccine for her daughters and her self. They say nothing happened, BUT I have noticed they have become more outspoken about getting the shot. They feel it is their civil duty to spread the idea. I have not heard from them in 6 months or so and then I start getting all kinds of propaganda from her. Telling me how I should get the shot for my self and my family and It would be wrong by denying them a free vaccine. She actually said the government has good doctors that have my best interest at heart. I think that is weird. But maybe it is just me.
That is weird!
Maybe Nanobots reprogram the brain to be an Government Obot...?
VERY LIKELY, which is why the authorities would like to vaccinate all of us. Not possible you say? Research nano-technology and mind-controltechnology. They've probably been desiring to do this for years. Which is why they're
wanting to vaccinate as many as possible, completely ignoring the fact that there's no threatening disease. What do they care? Logic has NOTHING to do with it. Quoting: Anka
Exactly. go to: globalresearch.org. has a article about nano particles in vaccines contents in Europe? with the Copenhagen treaty, we will be financially globally merged with Europe anyway, so then "fetal cell lines" and all the vaccines they have will be attempted towards us as well. i viewed Sen Lieberman at HS meeting 2 weeks ago confering with CDC and HS sec's, "he stated fetal cell lines" for the future of MORE vaccines they plan to give us. that is flat out: cannibalism to consume a micro plasma injection, based on dead fetal tissues. unethical, period!  |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 809427
11/3/2009 6:32 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
If you have nanobots, you don't need to have shots. The bots could be programmed to move around LIKE a virus. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 805287
11/3/2009 6:36 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
this smells of a deeper, darker agenda than my little brain can amagine,
considering that hawaii is such an isolated land mass |
| Kauai's lemons
User ID: 735442
11/3/2009 6:54 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
this smells of a deeper, darker agenda than my little brain can amagine,
considering that hawaii is such an isolated land mass Quoting: Anonymous Coward 805287
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| SHOCKED PARENTS
User ID: 735442
11/3/2009 7:11 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
Neighbors mainland and Hawaii: here is a few names of physicians who really care what happens to you! Dr Sheri Tenpenny, Dr.Russell Blaylock, Dr Andrew Moulden. Dr. Leonard Horowitz. just to name a few[youtube]. try fluscam.com! vacctruth.com is another. i also strongly suggest reading the entire affidavit of Dr. Leonard Horowitz, as it entails the source of the darker agenda, and the very financiers in charge of the vaccine programs. to all the national guard: Oathkeepers.org GO ladies and gentlemen of the NG! check it out, learn what your duty is about! mahalo.......ALOHHHHHHHHAAAAAA..... |
| lolita
User ID: 809768
11/3/2009 7:19 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
The governor was at the school in part to remind students that their parents would soon be receiving another consent form — this one for the H1N1 vaccination program. Lingle encouraged students and parents to read the forms and, if they are comfortable with it, to sign it and mail it back.
[link to www.honoluluadvertiser.com]
Everyone who would like to be vaccinated will be able to do so as more H1N1 vaccine supplies are received. Vaccination is voluntary.
[link to flu.hawaii.gov]
MORE GLP FAIL DOOM. |
| Diety's tools
User ID: 735442
11/3/2009 7:32 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
The governor was at the school in part to remind students that their parents would soon be receiving another consent form — this one for the H1N1 vaccination program. Lingle encouraged students and parents to read the forms and, if they are comfortable with it, to sign it and mail it back.
[ link to www.honoluluadvertiser.com]
Everyone who would like to be vaccinated will be able to do so as more H1N1 vaccine supplies are received. Vaccination is voluntary.
[ link to flu.hawaii.gov]
MORE GLP FAIL DOOM.
I would say the innocent children are doomed, if the ADULTS, don't buck up and read the contents of the vaccines, the big pharm's own documents, and inserts. this is not about making doom, this is about saving lives! obviously the pys-op's can "say" "voluntary", but as the EM powers, and executive statute and code kick in, all can change in the blink of an eye. they "use" voluntary as a word to SNEAK in the real forced agenda, and do it by demonizing neighbors for not participating in this evil trick. the financiers from PNYC, need to be arrested for a eugenics FRAUD. there is more humane ways to "sterilize" a child's reproductive system, not by disguising it in a flu shot. the FLU VACCINE gives you the flu! all a sick twist of psy-op's on everyday folks...nothing has "failed", the Gov is pushing this as hard as they can to "scare everyone". it's called fear mongering DUH. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 618285
11/3/2009 7:32 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
As if any state authority has the ability to know who the hell has had the shot and who hasnt.
They cant catch criminals or illegals yet some here think they know who gets the virus and who hasnt?
No one is getting receipts to show they got the shot...
You can go to the local drug store here and get the shot without giving your SS number.
How do you think they are going to know? Quoting: PACNWguy
I posted this same response about a week ago to debunk the whold 'forced vaccination BS' it is BS.
no one is getting a 'proof of vaccination' ...
without an evidence system in place THERE IS NO WAY THEY CAN FORCE THE VACCINATION. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 758380
11/3/2009 7:38 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
Obviously, the reptilians have taken over Hawaiian government. It's no coincidence that this is the same gov't that refuses to produce proof of Obama's natural born birth. |
| Kauai's lemons
User ID: 735442
11/3/2009 7:48 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
THIS IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL! IT IS ASSAULT WITH A DEADLY WEAPON! AND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AN ATTACK ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!
They tried is MA, fail, they tried in NY, fail, now they are trying in HI.
Linda Lingle must be insane. She can't count, do research or make rational decissions on her own? If she could, she would not allow a mandate.
People should be really sick of this goverment trying to force vaccines on all the children.
I wonder how many navy families have kids in school out there. I bet a bunch. Not good. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 550635
Alohhhhaaa! please..do not call the honorable Linda Lingle "insane", obviously she is NOT. i do not agree with the vaccine decisions being made, however most Gov's would be very busy and diligent making big decisions.. so what i 'ASK' from Gov Lingle, is simply a chance to show her contrasting scientific research and documentation, from the big pharm corps', and other physicians who have professional experience. even here in Hawaii, many must be petitioning or filing civil and other filings, this is a huge issue with health care workers, obviously several children and adults have already had very serious reactions to vaccines already administered. this i 'ask'....send the best of your information, documentation, to our Gov's web site Linda Lingle Hawaii. thank you! |
| The White House
User ID: 799732 (OP)
11/3/2009 7:51 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
MORE GLP FAIL DOOM. Quoting: lolita
Wishful thinking?
If you think the Honolulu Advertiser misquoted the Governor in the posted article, you should take it up with them.
As far as the vaccine being voluntary right now, of course it's voluntary. First, they don't have enough vaccine to force the whole population today, this week, or this month. Second, why would they want to, when their media campaign is still generating volunteers?
The fact they are voluntary today was of course never the issue. The issue is that they will become mandatory in the near future. This reality was reflected in the Governor's comments.
But really, isn't it easier to vaccinate the willing population first. When the military starts forcing injections on people it will get very ugly very fast. So why not save the unwilling vaccination participants for last.
As long as you understand and concede that current law gives the Governor the authority to impose mandatory vaccinations at will, during a state of emergency, there really is no argument.
We all know today, at this hour vaccines are voluntary. We also know that mandatory vaccinations are coming, the question is when. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 758380
11/3/2009 7:53 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
A lot of the stuff being printed about "force" could be a psyop to con people into thinking they HAVE to get vaccination or else. That's the role of the media - mind fuckery. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 618285
11/3/2009 7:58 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
. We also know that mandatory vaccinations are coming, the question is when. Quoting: The White House 799732
what?
if mandatory vaccinations are coming then say "I ALREADY GOT MINE".
geeez people...there is no documentation being handed out with the vaccination...
SO YOU CAN LIE.
yup, officer, my kids and I have already got it...thanks for asking. |
| The White House
User ID: 799732 (OP)
11/3/2009 7:58 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
no one is getting a 'proof of vaccination' ...
without an evidence system in place THERE IS NO WAY THEY CAN FORCE THE VACCINATION. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 618285
I know this thread is getting longer than most people's attention spans.
This question was answered earlier in this thread.
Answer:
Proof of vaccination is in the vaccination.
Nano-RFID for you and me.
If in doubt just google vaccine nanotechnology.
P.S. In all sincerity, the government agencies and those who control them believe they can do what ever the hell they want to. |
| Kauai's lemons
User ID: 735442
11/3/2009 8:00 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
Obviously, the reptilians have taken over Hawaiian government. It's no coincidence that this is the same gov't that refuses to produce proof of Obama's natural born birth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 758380
No... reptillians have not taken over. just the CDC has brainwashed so many into thinking the vaccines are "SAFE", and all the rest of that. i think the "DUKE, our Lt. Gov, is a great guy. even though they have not had THE TIME, to RESEARCH, or be advised by other medical opinions other than the Fed's. give them a chance! HOPE, and it WILL happen! research, work, document, speak out. it's important to the families of our own leadership here to see the contents of the vaccines for the real scientific names that are in it. i do not think they wish to kill people...they just simply don't have the right info....keep trying hire attorney's etc, document and prove the real criminal agenda is sourced from PNYC CRIMINALS. it's really all about the $$$$ to save the Hawaii's accountant books, "buy in to Obama's health care", take big juicy grants for vaccine administrations for the future...MORE than just "mere h1n1"...they have plenty more.  |
| SHOCKED PARENTS
User ID: 735442
11/3/2009 8:04 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
THIS IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL! IT IS ASSAULT WITH A DEADLY WEAPON! AND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AN ATTACK ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!
They tried is MA, fail, they tried in NY, fail, now they are trying in HI.
Linda Lingle must be insane. She can't count, do research or make rational decissions on her own? If she could, she would not allow a mandate.
People should be really sick of this goverment trying to force vaccines on all the children.
I wonder how many navy families have kids in school out there. I bet a bunch. Not good. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 550635
Exactly!! EXCEPTION: EXCLUSION! "Honorable Lingle is NOT insane" period. she is a professional LADY....who happens to be very busy. so how can you help? send her a link or two? we are all in this together, ALL STATES including mainland though far away...ALOOOOHHHHHAAAAA!  |
| RememberThis 
Oh Shit!
User ID: 805084
11/3/2009 8:07 PM
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So........this shit is for real eh? 
"Got myself a one way ticket, goin' the wrong way". ~Bon Scott~
"21 gun Salute, Kills 21 People" ~George Carlin~
~Beer: Helping white men dance since 1856~
~Why do midgets laugh when they run? Because the grass tickles their nuts~ |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 809795
11/3/2009 8:10 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
MORE GLP FAIL DOOM.
Wishful thinking?
If you think the Honolulu Advertiser misquoted the Governor in the posted article, you should take it up with them.
As far as the vaccine being voluntary right now, of course it's voluntary. First, they don't have enough vaccine to force the whole population today, this week, or this month. Second, why would they want to, when their media campaign is still generating volunteers?
The fact they are voluntary today was of course never the issue. The issue is that they will become mandatory in the near future. This reality was reflected in the Governor's comments.
But really, isn't it easier to vaccinate the willing population first. When the military starts forcing injections on people it will get very ugly very fast. So why not save the unwilling vaccination participants for last.
As long as you understand and concede that current law gives the Governor the authority to impose mandatory vaccinations at will, during a state of emergency, there really is no argument.
We all know today, at this hour vaccines are voluntary. We also know that mandatory vaccinations are coming, the question is when. Quoting: The White House 799732
Exactly! There was a person who posted on a thread over the weekend that nailed the whole timeline "therory" here it is.......like I said I believe this guy nailed it.
How the Swine Flu Vaccine Will Become Mandatory and Why Most Citizens Will Take It
Below is a hypothesized timeline on how the H1N1 vaccine could become mandatory. If the following events occur, perhaps it will help you to understand how you could be manipulated into taking the vaccine if you are currently undecided or even if you are dead set against taking it.
1. Test lethality of H5N1 (bird flu) virus in injectable form - June ’08
In June '08, 21 out of 350 homeless people in Poland died after being injected with the H5N1 (bird flu) vaccine. See link below (1. Vaccine trial in Poland).
It is my supposition that eugenicists, elites who believe the human race should be depopulated in order to save the planet's ecosystem, were attempting to find the correct dosage of H5N1 (bird flu) virus required to cause death. Google/YouTube “elite eugenicists want to depopulate” to learn more.
2. Introduce H1N1 (swine flu) virus into the population - March ’09
In late April of 2009, the swine flu breaks out in Mexico City. Scientists said the virus combines genetic material from pigs, birds and humans that researchers have not seen before. “We are very, very concerned,” World Health Organization spokesman Thomas Abraham said. “We have what appears to be a novel (new) virus and it has spread from human to human.” See link below (2. Swine flu is man made).
3. Declare World Health Organization Level 6 Pandemic - June ’09
The purpose of declaring a Level 6 pandemic is to provide vaccines to the 194 countries which are members of the WHO, especially the undeveloped countries who could not develop nor afford the vaccines. The goal of the WHO is to produce 3 billion H1N1 vaccines within the next year.
4. Develop and manufacture the H1N1 vaccine - June’09 to Present
The US government ordered 195 million H1N1 vaccines for this year’s flu season. Since only 195 million vaccines were ordered and the population of the US is 300 million, there will not be enough vaccines for everyone. Couple this fact with the fact that no states have yet signed into law mandatory H1N1 vaccinations, it is unlikely the vaccine will be made mandatory this flu season. However, the number of doses could be increased by mixing the vaccines with a squalene adjuvant, and in the event of a deadly “mutation,” emergency laws could be passed quickly. For more information on “squalene adjuvant,” see the message below entitled “They Want to Inject Me with the Same Stuff that Caused Gulf War Syndrome?”
5. Hype the vaccine - July ’09 to Present
As of October 11, 2009, the World Health Organization reports that 3406 people have died from the swine flu virus in the Americas, which includes South, Central and North America. The combined population of these regions is around 960 million people. According the CDC, the common flu kills over 35,000 people per year in the United States alone. So why is there all this media hype about how important it is to have the H1N1 vaccine? See link below (3. Just get your damn vaccine).
Also, learn how the mainstream media is owned by a handful of people by researching keywords “controlled mainstream media.” These few people dictate what the "talking heads" read off their teleprompts. Most of the general population simply assumes without question that the information being presented is accurate. See link below (4. The controlled media).
6. Introduce live H1N1 virus mist vaccine and spread the virus more - October 5, 2009
The first of the H1N1 vaccines were distributed on October 5. These vaccines were the inhalable mist type which contain live H1N1 virus and are sprayed into the nose. It seems to me that this would make people contagious and spread the virus even more. In fact, some school districts have refused to use this type of vaccine. See link below (5. Flu mist vaccine is contagious).
7. Introduce injectable H1N1 vaccines - October 15, 2009
On October 15 the injectable vaccines were released. The US government ordered a total of 195 million doses. As previously mentioned, there are 300 million people in the US, so there will not be enough vaccines for everyone. Currently, there is allegedly a delay in vaccine production. I have already seen long lines on television. Long lines for anything create a type of “herd hysteria;” e.g. movies, concerts, Christmas toys. People think to themselves “Wow, look at that long line. Am I missing out on something?”
8. President Obama officially declares Swine Flu a National emergency – October 23, 2009
Obama wrote in the declaration, "As a nation, we have prepared at all levels of government, and as individuals and communities, taking unprecedented steps to counter the emerging pandemic." Notice the wording “the emerging pandemic.”
When the president declares a national emergency, two constitutional rights are subject to revocation:
• The right of habeas corpus
• The right to a grand jury for members of the National Guard when in actual service
Habeas corpus is a writ through which a person can seek relief from unlawful detention; i.e. quarantine. It has historically been an important instrument for the safeguarding of individual freedom against arbitrary state action.
9. Insert a fractional percentage of live H5N1 (bird flu) virus into injectable batches of H1N1 vaccines – Nov ‘09
I surmise within several weeks of the initiation of the swine flu vaccine injection, the percentage of people who die after supposedly contracting the virus will rise ever so slightly, such that very few of us will suspect that the vaccines have anything to do with the increase in the mortality rate. But what will really be causing the increase in deaths is that a tiny percentage (less than 1%) of the vaccines will contain the lethal H5N1 (bird flu) virus that was tested on the homeless in Poland.
October 30th Update: There seems to have been a “mutation” in the Ukraine. See link below (20. Swine flu outbreak in Ukraine as virus said to kill dozens).
10. Media mentions that the death rate has increased. Note that the death rate prior to vaccinations was 1.2% – Nov-Dec ‘09
The mainstream media will spin this slight increase in deaths by saying the H1N1 virus may have mutated into something more deadly, and that scientist are monitoring the situation very closely. They will also say that it is more important than ever to get the swine flu vaccine, because although the virus may have mutated, the vaccine is still your best bet for protection. However, there will still be a vaccine shortage and the media will be showing long lines throughout the country to “hype the herd.”
11. Increase the percentage of live H5N1 (bird flu) virus in vaccines to increase death rate to 2% - Dec-Jan ‘09
12. Media begins to really hype virus mutation – Jan ‘09
This is when the real hype will begin as the media will be covering the swine flu pandemic nonstop stating that the virus continues to mutate into something more deadly. But still, there is a vaccine shortage. Long lines are everywhere. As you can imagine, a shortage of something that can supposedly save your life will be a very high-demand item.
13. Continue to increase the percentage of live H5N1 (bird flu) virus in vaccines to increase death rate to 3% - Jan-Feb ‘10
14. The media is now stating “There is no question, the virus has mutated and if you don’t get the H1N1 vaccine, you will be endangering your family, friends, coworkers and anyone else you may come into contact with.” – Jan-Feb‘10
There will be reports of rioting at vaccine distribution locations. Perhaps you will even hear about right-wing militia groups stealing the vaccine. This will be a complete fabrication, unless of course the militia group is stealing the vaccine to destroy it. Regardless, it will be the excuse the government will use to get the National Guard and perhaps even the military involved in “protecting” distribution centers.
15. Continue to increase the percentage of live H5N1 (bird flu) virus in vaccines to increase death rate to 4% - Feb-Mar ‘10
16. Flu season ends with H1N1 death rate at 4 to 5% - Mar-Apr ‘10
17. Media hypes mandatory H1N1 vaccination stating we need to create a “herd immunity” to protect those who cannot take the vaccines because of compromised immune systems - Spring ’10 thru Summer ‘10
You will begin to see a lot of media hype that the vaccine should become mandatory for the next flu season. The media will tell us that it is important for everyone to take the vaccine so that we can develop a “herd immunity.” This will not be true because for the flu virus, herd immunity is impossible as it mutates too rapidly.
According to Wikipedia, the following diseases have herd immunity thresholds: diphtheria, measles, mumps, pertussis, polio, rubella and smallpox. Notice there is no mention of influenza. See link below (6. Herd immunity).
The media will begin stating that if you do not get the H1N1 vaccine, you will be endangering those with suppressed immune systems who cannot be vaccinated (e.g. newborns, HIV infected, organ transplants, chemotherapy patients, etc). People who claim the vaccine is harmful will be ridiculed by the media as paranoid and will be labeled as a danger to society, i.e. a terrorist. And because habeas corpus has been suspended per the national emergency declared by Obama, they may well be detained without due process.
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How the Swine Flu Vaccine Will Become Mandatory and Why Most Citizens Will Take It
Below is a hypothesized timeline on how the H1N1 vaccine could become mandatory. If the following events occur, perhaps it will help you to understand how you could be manipulated into taking the vaccine if you are currently undecided or even if you are dead set against taking it.
1. Test lethality of H5N1 (bird flu) virus in injectable form - June ’08
In June '08, 21 out of 350 homeless people in Poland died after being injected with the H5N1 (bird flu) vaccine. See link below (1. Vaccine trial in Poland).
It is my supposition that eugenicists, elites who believe the human race should be depopulated in order to save the planet's ecosystem, were attempting to find the correct dosage of H5N1 (bird flu) virus required to cause death. Google/YouTube “elite eugenicists want to depopulate” to learn more.
2. Introduce H1N1 (swine flu) virus into the population - March ’09
In late April of 2009, the swine flu breaks out in Mexico City. Scientists said the virus combines genetic material from pigs, birds and humans that researchers have not seen before. “We are very, very concerned,” World Health Organization spokesman Thomas Abraham said. “We have what appears to be a novel (new) virus and it has spread from human to human.” See link below (2. Swine flu is man made).
3. Declare World Health Organization Level 6 Pandemic - June ’09
The purpose of declaring a Level 6 pandemic is to provide vaccines to the 194 countries which are members of the WHO, especially the undeveloped countries who could not develop nor afford the vaccines. The goal of the WHO is to produce 3 billion H1N1 vaccines within the next year.
4. Develop and manufacture the H1N1 vaccine - June’09 to Present
The US government ordered 195 million H1N1 vaccines for this year’s flu season. Since only 195 million vaccines were ordered and the population of the US is 300 million, there will not be enough vaccines for everyone. Couple this fact with the fact that no states have yet signed into law mandatory H1N1 vaccinations, it is unlikely the vaccine will be made mandatory this flu season. However, the number of doses could be increased by mixing the vaccines with a squalene adjuvant, and in the event of a deadly “mutation,” emergency laws could be passed quickly. For more information on “squalene adjuvant,” see the message below entitled “They Want to Inject Me with the Same Stuff that Caused Gulf War Syndrome?”
5. Hype the vaccine - July ’09 to Present
As of October 11, 2009, the World Health Organization reports that 3406 people have died from the swine flu virus in the Americas, which includes South, Central and North America. The combined population of these regions is around 960 million people. According the CDC, the common flu kills over 35,000 people per year in the United States alone. So why is there all this media hype about how important it is to have the H1N1 vaccine? See link below (3. Just get your damn vaccine).
Also, learn how the mainstream media is owned by a handful of people by researching keywords “controlled mainstream media.” These few people dictate what the "talking heads" read off their teleprompts. Most of the general population simply assumes without question that the information being presented is accurate. See link below (4. The controlled media).
6. Introduce live H1N1 virus mist vaccine and spread the virus more - October 5, 2009
The first of the H1N1 vaccines were distributed on October 5. These vaccines were the inhalable mist type which contain live H1N1 virus and are sprayed into the nose. It seems to me that this would make people contagious and spread the virus even more. In fact, some school districts have refused to use this type of vaccine. See link below (5. Flu mist vaccine is contagious).
7. Introduce injectable H1N1 vaccines - October 15, 2009
On October 15 the injectable vaccines were released. The US government ordered a total of 195 million doses. As previously mentioned, there are 300 million people in the US, so there will not be enough vaccines for everyone. Currently, there is allegedly a delay in vaccine production. I have already seen long lines on television. Long lines for anything create a type of “herd hysteria;” e.g. movies, concerts, Christmas toys. People think to themselves “Wow, look at that long line. Am I missing out on something?”
8. President Obama officially declares Swine Flu a National emergency – October 23, 2009
Obama wrote in the declaration, "As a nation, we have prepared at all levels of government, and as individuals and communities, taking unprecedented steps to counter the emerging pandemic." Notice the wording “the emerging pandemic.”
When the president declares a national emergency, two constitutional rights are subject to revocation:
• The right of habeas corpus
• The right to a grand jury for members of the National Guard when in actual service
Habeas corpus is a writ through which a person can seek relief from unlawful detention; i.e. quarantine. It has historically been an important instrument for the safeguarding of individual freedom against arbitrary state action.
9. Insert a fractional percentage of live H5N1 (bird flu) virus into injectable batches of H1N1 vaccines – Nov ‘09
I surmise within several weeks of the initiation of the swine flu vaccine injection, the percentage of people who die after supposedly contracting the virus will rise ever so slightly, such that very few of us will suspect that the vaccines have anything to do with the increase in the mortality rate. But what will really be causing the increase in deaths is that a tiny percentage (less than 1%) of the vaccines will contain the lethal H5N1 (bird flu) virus that was tested on the homeless in Poland.
October 30th Update: There seems to have been a “mutation” in the Ukraine. See link below (20. Swine flu outbreak in Ukraine as virus said to kill dozens).
10. Media mentions that the death rate has increased. Note that the death rate prior to vaccinations was 1.2% – Nov-Dec ‘09
The mainstream media will spin this slight increase in deaths by saying the H1N1 virus may have mutated into something more deadly, and that scientist are monitoring the situation very closely. They will also say that it is more important than ever to get the swine flu vaccine, because although the virus may have mutated, the vaccine is still your best bet for protection. However, there will still be a vaccine shortage and the media will be showing long lines throughout the country to “hype the herd.”
11. Increase the percentage of live H5N1 (bird flu) virus in vaccines to increase death rate to 2% - Dec-Jan ‘09
12. Media begins to really hype virus mutation – Jan ‘09
This is when the real hype will begin as the media will be covering the swine flu pandemic nonstop stating that the virus continues to mutate into something more deadly. But still, there is a vaccine shortage. Long lines are everywhere. As you can imagine, a shortage of something that can supposedly save your life will be a very high-demand item.
13. Continue to increase the percentage of live H5N1 (bird flu) virus in vaccines to increase death rate to 3% - Jan-Feb ‘10
14. The media is now stating “There is no question, the virus has mutated and if you don’t get the H1N1 vaccine, you will be endangering your family, friends, coworkers and anyone else you may come into contact with.” – Jan-Feb‘10
There will be reports of rioting at vaccine distribution locations. Perhaps you will even hear about right-wing militia groups stealing the vaccine. This will be a complete fabrication, unless of course the militia group is stealing the vaccine to destroy it. Regardless, it will be the excuse the government will use to get the National Guard and perhaps even the military involved in “protecting” distribution centers.
15. Continue to increase the percentage of live H5N1 (bird flu) virus in vaccines to increase death rate to 4% - Feb-Mar ‘10
16. Flu season ends with H1N1 death rate at 4 to 5% - Mar-Apr ‘10
17. Media hypes mandatory H1N1 vaccination stating we need to create a “herd immunity” to protect those who cannot take the vaccines because of compromised immune systems - Spring ’10 thru Summer ‘10
You will begin to see a lot of media hype that the vaccine should become mandatory for the next flu season. The media will tell us that it is important for everyone to take the vaccine so that we can develop a “herd immunity.” This will not be true because for the flu virus, herd immunity is impossible as it mutates too rapidly.
According to Wikipedia, the following diseases have herd immunity thresholds: diphtheria, measles, mumps, pertussis, polio, rubella and smallpox. Notice there is no mention of influenza. See link below (6. Herd immunity).
The media will begin stating that if you do not get the H1N1 vaccine, you will be endangering those with suppressed immune systems who cannot be vaccinated (e.g. newborns, HIV infected, organ transplants, chemotherapy patients, etc). People who claim the vaccine is harmful will be ridiculed by the media as paranoid and will be labeled as a danger to society, i.e. a terrorist. And because habeas corpus has been suspended per the national emergency declared by Obama, they may well be detained without due process.
18. States begin to pass legislation making H1N1 vaccination mandatory - Summer ‘10
The Model State Emergency Health Powers Act, drafted in October of 2001, provides a guideline for states to use when legislating mandatory vaccination laws.
1. Force persons to be vaccinated, treated, or quarantined for infectious diseases.
2. Impose fines and penalties to enforce their orders.
3. Preempt existing state laws, rules and regulations, including those relating to privacy, medical licensure, and property rights (i.e. your property could be seized).
4. Mobilize all or any part of the organized militia into service to the state to help enforce the state's orders.
5. Ration firearms, food, fuel and alcoholic beverages, as well as other commodities.
6. Track and share an individual's personal health information, including genetic information (RFID?).
Massachusetts already has a mandatory vaccination law that has passed both their House and Senate and is awaiting the signature of Governor Deval. The law states that if you do not take the vaccine you can be fined $1000 per day and you could also be quarantined and your property could be seized (the reason for property seizure would be it is contaminated with a deadly virus). Other states will begin to follow the precedence set by Massachusetts. See link below (7. Massachusetts’ mandatory vaccination law).
19. All states will have mandatory H1N1 vaccination laws in place - September ‘10
So here we are in the flu season of 2010. The vaccine has been made mandatory in the USA and perhaps even world-wide. The public is panicked, but the government is ready this time. They have enough vaccinations for everyone. Most likely the vaccines will have a squalene adjuvant in them. For more information on “squalene adjuvant,” see the message below entitled “They Want to Inject Me with the Same Stuff that Caused Gulf War Syndrome?”
20. Mandatory vaccinations begin and 90% of population agrees to take the vaccine. You will be identified as having taken the vaccine by an RFID bracelet - October ’10 thru January ‘11
Even if you have had the vaccination last flu season, you will need another one just as you do with the regular flu because the virus has mutated. I am guessing that upwards of 90 percent of Americans will be receptive to taking the vaccine because of the increased death rate and because they believe the “herd immunity” deception. There will be no religious or philosophical exceptions.
There are several YouTube videos where people, some claiming to be military personnel, are saying the military is practicing road blocks and will give people a choice of being vaccinated or sent to a FEMA quarantine camp. They are also saying that you will be required to wear an RFID bracelet that proves you have taken the vaccine. See links below (8. RFID bracelet, 9. Military roadblocks).
21. If you have not taken the vaccine by January 1, 2011, you will be forcefully quarantined – January ’11 until Complete
I am guessing that about ten percent of US citizens will refuse to take the vaccine and will become outcasts and will be hunted down and quarantined. See links below (10. Fox news – Mass quarantines, 11. FEMA camps, 12. FEMA coffins, 13. Mass graves).
22. RFID Chip will be inserted into your body – 2012 until complete
Once all the people who refused to take the vaccine have been rounded up and “dealt with” and those who took the vaccine have become comfortable wearing their RFID bracelet, there will be a push to have the RFID chips implanted in the hand. By this time, the RFID bracelet will be linked to databases that contain medical records as well as financial information. Without an RFID, it will not be possible to participate in commerce; i.e. one will not be able to buy or sell. There will be many alleged cases of people’s bracelets being stolen and the obvious solution is to implant the RFID chip into the hand. (See links below (14. IBM RFID commercial, 15. RFID commercial, 16. RFID implantation).
23. Timeline Conclusion
So there it is. The plan is to reduce world population and chip those who remain. The first “culling” of the population will begin by forcing vaccines on the people. Naturally, those who refuse to take the vaccine would sure as heck refuse to have a chip implanted in them. So, it would make sense to identify these people and remove them from the population first. Those who remain will think, what a shame, if only they were not so paranoid and had taken the vaccine. But the vaccinations will continue because the virus will allegedly continue to mutate and people will continue to be killed off by vaccination until the world population is deemed to be at an acceptable level by the eugenicists. According to the Georgia Guidestones, that “acceptable” population will be 500 million people. Currently, there 6.8 billion people, so that would mean 6.3 billion people would have to be eliminated. See link below (17. Georgia Guidestones).
24. Time for some old-school preaching!
I know the way I have described this sequence of events seems bleak, but there is hope! If the vaccines are made mandatory, we must resist. If enough of us stand up and say no to the vaccine, then some of those who lacked the courage to say no will find their strength in numbers. And then, some of those who were pretty much clueless about why anyone would refuse the vaccine will also begin to awaken. And then even more people will rise up until there is a mass awakening and “We the People” will re-establish our Constitutional Republic and take our country back from the war-mongering international banking cartels (see link below (18. Money as debt)) and live peacefully as truly free human beings.
So I encourage everyone who reads this to take some kind of action. If you think this is a bunch of nonsense, take the action to research the links I have provided. If you become convinced or are already convinced that these events could happen, spread the word in whatever way you feel works for you. Above all, believe that we will be successful in our resistance because faith can move mountains! But do not wait. Now is the time to act. The government already has plans to limit internet bandwidth to non-essential websites in the event of a pandemic. The rationale is that so many people will be at home due to the pandemic that the internet will be clogged with game players and joy seekers. I’m pretty sure YouTube, where the “real and true news” can be found, will be considered one of those non-essential websites. See link below (19. SEC and Homeland Security need Web backup).
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 772524
11/3/2009 8:11 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
no one is getting a 'proof of vaccination' ...
without an evidence system in place THERE IS NO WAY THEY CAN FORCE THE VACCINATION.
I know this thread is getting longer than most people's attention spans.
This question was answered earlier in this thread.
Answer:
Proof of vaccination is in the vaccination.
Nano-RFID for you and me.
If in doubt just google vaccine nanotechnology.
P.S. In all sincerity, the government agencies and those who control them believe they can do what ever the hell they want to. Quoting: The White House 799732
Ok buddy, we need to do a DNA test to make sure you have the anti-bodies. Bend Over! |
| RememberThis
Oh Shit!
User ID: 805084
11/3/2009 8:12 PM
| | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
no one is getting a 'proof of vaccination' ...
without an evidence system in place THERE IS NO WAY THEY CAN FORCE THE VACCINATION.
I know this thread is getting longer than most people's attention spans.
This question was answered earlier in this thread.
Answer:
Proof of vaccination is in the vaccination.
Nano-RFID for you and me.
If in doubt just google vaccine nanotechnology.
P.S. In all sincerity, the government agencies and those who control them believe they can do what ever the hell they want to.
Ok buddy, we need to do a DNA test to make sure you have the anti-bodies. Bend Over! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 772524
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| Kauai's lemons
User ID: 735442
11/3/2009 8:17 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
So........this shit is for real eh?
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 809780
11/3/2009 8:24 PM | | Re: Hawaii National Guard Set to Administer Swine Flu Vaccines Statewide | Quote |
Locals resist forced vaccinations but are told they don't have the authority to resist.
Council votes against mandatory vaccinations
[ link to www.westhawaiitoday.com]
The day after the state received its first batch of H1N1 flu vaccine, a Hawaii County Council committee Tuesday advanced a resolution opposing mandatory vaccination of the populace.
The Committee on Human Services and Economic Development voted 6-1 in favor of the resolution allowing people to refuse the swine flu vaccine, or any other vaccine containing certain ingredients or of known health risk, on medical, religious or philosophical grounds.
Committee Chairwoman Emily Naeole, of Puna, sponsored the measure, which now goes to the council for final approval before being forwarded to state and federal officials. She said constituents are concerned that the federal Model State Emergency Health Powers Act repeals long-standing federal exemptions from mandatory vaccinations.
The act gives public health officials the power to vaccinate all Americans over 6 months old in an emergency, such as the Level 6 flu pandemic declared by the World Health Organization on June 11.
Hamakua Councilman Dominic Yagong noted that the county has no power to change the situation. It can only voice its opinion, he said.
"The county has absolutely no control over the decisions on something like this," Yagong said. "This is going to be a lot bigger, a lot greater than the Hawaii County Council."
The only way they're going to get that shot into me is through my cold, dead arm.
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