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Arnold Trying to Stop Gold Panning in California...
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aznwarlord
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11/3/2009 4:10 PM
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[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
The price of gold has soared from $660 (£400) an ounce two years ago to more than $1,000 (£610) today and the number of federal licenses issued to mining companies in California has jumped by 50 per cent.
Membership in the Gold Prospectors Association of America has tripled, tourism operators have reported a surge in bookings for pan-handling tours.
Rivers where the original gold fever of 1849 struck are now populated by entrepreneurs in scuba diving gear who are looking for a new path to wealth after their unrelated businesses were squeezed in the recession.
The original "49ers" are thought to have found only about 20 per cent of California's gold, extracting around £6 billion over five years at today's prices, so mining companies are still striking lucky.
However, the burgeoning mining boom is facing a setback after Arnold Schwarzenegger, the governor of California, imposed a temporary moratorium on suction dredge mining, which involves using gasoline-powered devices to scrape gold flecks off river beds.
An environmental review will determine how much harm the practice is doing to struggling salmon runs and may not be completed until 2011.
It followed pressure from the 3,500-strong Karuk tribe, whose ancestors were overrun by the original 1849 gold rush.
The tribe is trying to protect salmon runs on the Klamath river, around which their ancestors have been based for centuries.
"Our original intent was not to shut down dredging statewide, but because the new 49ers and these mining clubs fought us so hard, we had little alternative but to challenge the rules," a tribe spokesman said.
Many of the dredging permits are held by the 2,000 members of the "New 49ers" gold mining club based in Happy Camp on the Klamath river.
Dave McCracken, the club's founder and a former Navy Seal, said: "Dredging is what gains you access to high-grade gold deposits at the bottom of the river. It's the only way to get at them."
Mike Higbee, a California miner, said: "If we are unable to overturn [the moratorium] ... it would only be natural that California miners are going to be looking at Oregon, and Washington and Idaho."
But, fearing an influx of miners during the moratorium, Ted Kulongoski, the governor of Oregon, now wants to impose a mining ban in his state.
Despite the moratorium, the new prospectors in California say there is still good money to be made and as the price of gold continues to soar more fortune hunters are arriving.
Brent Shock, who wears a huge gold nugget as a ring and runs pan-handling tours, has seen his bookings double this year. He said: "It's great because everybody gets to make money, possibly a lot of money."
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aznwarlord
User ID: 795177
11/3/2009 4:11 PM
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what a joke after 150 years now that gold is booming they care about the "salmon"
Last Edited by aznwarlord on 11/3/2009 at 4:13 PM
“I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied without understanding the world.”
– Richard Dawkins |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 809633
11/3/2009 4:12 PM | | Re: Arnold Trying to Stop Gold Panning in California... | Quote |
Don't the pee-ons using gold for money I guess. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 717371
11/3/2009 4:16 PM | | Re: Arnold Trying to Stop Gold Panning in California... | Quote |
I wonder how long it takes gather up an ounce of gold |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 808814
11/3/2009 4:19 PM | | Re: Arnold Trying to Stop Gold Panning in California... | Quote |
I wonder how long it takes gather up an ounce of gold Quoting: Anonymous Coward 717371
depends. three days last week I panned just over two ounces. |
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aznwarlord
User ID: 795177
11/3/2009 4:21 PM
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I wonder how long it takes gather up an ounce of gold
depends. three days last week I panned just over two ounces. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 808814
2000$ in 3 days?
i wish i lived in that part of cali... or some gold rich land.
“I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied without understanding the world.”
– Richard Dawkins |
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subsonic
User ID: 117685
11/3/2009 4:47 PM | | Re: Arnold Trying to Stop Gold Panning in California... | Quote |
AZNwarlord,
If your name indicates you are in Arizona, you are in one of the premier gold prospecting states. Do A little internet searching, you may be surprised. I have a friend that found a 5 oz. nugget near Meadview. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 550635
11/3/2009 4:49 PM | | Re: Arnold Trying to Stop Gold Panning in California... | Quote |
This is a Pelosi thing. She wants IT ALL!!! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 550635
11/3/2009 4:51 PM | | Re: Arnold Trying to Stop Gold Panning in California... | Quote |
It was uneconomical to pan or mine for the most part, until now. On top of the price going up, many people are out of work. Its a semi-logical move for some. Personally, I would move out of the state but thats me. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 737419
11/3/2009 4:52 PM | | Re: Arnold Trying to Stop Gold Panning in California... | Quote |
Speaking of Arnold...
Watch the last segment (the one with schwartzi's face on it). Colbert always educates so well doesn't he?
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FinalCountdown
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11/3/2009 4:53 PM | |
II-Neutron
User ID: 806646
11/3/2009 4:57 PM
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You cannot eat Gold and be nourished with all you need. Life is what matters in the end as it was in the begining. Save the Salmon.
By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. Hebrews: 11 |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 805688
11/3/2009 4:59 PM | | Re: Arnold Trying to Stop Gold Panning in California... | Quote |
we should start a gold panning thread with tips and tricks on how to increase the chances of finding gold |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 809641
11/3/2009 5:01 PM | | Re: Arnold Trying to Stop Gold Panning in California... | Quote |
I wonder how long it takes gather up an ounce of gold Quoting: Anonymous Coward 717371
Lol BULLSHIT!
I pan as a hobby and I say BULLSHIT! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 809641
11/3/2009 5:02 PM | | Re: Arnold Trying to Stop Gold Panning in California... | Quote |
I wonder how long it takes gather up an ounce of gold
Lol BULLSHIT!
I pan as a hobby and I say BULLSHIT! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 809641
Lol, sorry this was for the guy with 2 oz in 3 days. |
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subsonic
User ID: 117685
11/3/2009 5:05 PM | | Re: Arnold Trying to Stop Gold Panning in California... | Quote |
You cannot eat Gold and be nourished with all you need. Life is what matters in the end as it was in the begining. Save the Salmon. Quoting: II-Neutron
You can not pay keep a roof over your head with new-age envirobabble either. Gold panning saw many families throught the Great (most recent) Depression. Small scale panning has little to no impact on the environment. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 809641
11/3/2009 5:13 PM | | Re: Arnold Trying to Stop Gold Panning in California... | Quote |
we should start a gold panning thread with tips and tricks on how to increase the chances of finding gold Quoting: Anonymous Coward 805688
Tip no. 1
Keep your eyes on the ground and look for quartz, then you will find gold. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 805688
11/3/2009 5:20 PM | | Re: Arnold Trying to Stop Gold Panning in California... | Quote |
we should start a gold panning thread with tips and tricks on how to increase the chances of finding gold
Tip no. 1
Keep your eyes on the ground and look for quartz, then you will find gold. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 809641
nice, thanks. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 804655
11/3/2009 5:20 PM | | Re: Arnold Trying to Stop Gold Panning in California... | Quote |
I wonder how long it takes gather up an ounce of gold
depends. three days last week I panned just over two ounces. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 808814
bullshit alert |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 736201
11/3/2009 5:22 PM | | Re: Arnold Trying to Stop Gold Panning in California... | Quote |
I wonder how long it takes gather up an ounce of gold
depends. three days last week I panned just over two ounces.
bullshit alert Quoting: Anonymous Coward 804655
Totally
Post a Pic of Ur findings Plz u Fucking Liar |
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aznwarlord
User ID: 795177
11/3/2009 5:41 PM
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You cannot eat Gold and be nourished with all you need. Life is what matters in the end as it was in the begining. Save the Salmon. Quoting: II-Neutron
you need more than fish to survive a depression.
with 1 ounce of gold you can buy all the fish u want.
“I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied without understanding the world.”
– Richard Dawkins |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 508527
11/3/2009 5:44 PM | | Re: Arnold Trying to Stop Gold Panning in California... | Quote |
I wonder how long it takes gather up an ounce of gold
depends. three days last week I panned just over two ounces. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 808814
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Windsage4
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11/3/2009 5:53 PM | | Re: Arnold Trying to Stop Gold Panning in California... | Quote |
what a joke after 150 years now that gold is booming they care about the "salmon" Quoting: aznwarlord
They always cared about the salmon, it's just that the gold dredgers are now more actively polluting and harming the salmon habitats due to the increased desirability of gold. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 809641
11/3/2009 5:56 PM | | Re: Arnold Trying to Stop Gold Panning in California... | Quote |
we should start a gold panning thread with tips and tricks on how to increase the chances of finding gold Quoting: Anonymous Coward 805688
First, find out if your area has had gold producing mines. Research all the way back to the 1800's for old mines. Buy some basic equipement and go camping in those areas. Get a basic book on prospecting and find some gold. You can I promise you. |
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aznwarlord
User ID: 795177
11/3/2009 10:22 PM
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“I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied without understanding the world.”
– Richard Dawkins |
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II-Neutron
User ID: 578949
11/4/2009 10:24 PM
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I cannot find fault in your reasoning. I say then let them eat gold :-)
But for real, what is the world coming to? You see this thread?: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. Hebrews: 11 |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 810572
11/4/2009 10:40 PM | | Re: Arnold Trying to Stop Gold Panning in California... | Quote |
we should start a gold panning thread with tips and tricks on how to increase the chances of finding gold
Tip no. 1
Keep your eyes on the ground and look for quartz, then you will find gold. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 809641
Yes, quartz and also iron ore. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 405501
11/4/2009 10:57 PM | | Re: Arnold Trying to Stop Gold Panning in California... | Quote |
You cannot eat Gold and be nourished with all you need. Life is what matters in the end as it was in the begining. Save the Salmon.
You can not pay keep a roof over your head with new-age envirobabble either. Gold panning saw many families throught the Great (most recent) Depression. Small scale panning has little to no impact on the environment. Quoting: subsonic 117685
They aren't talking about panning. It's about dredging. Different thing entirely. |
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II-Neutron
User ID: 806646
11/5/2009 2:22 AM
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You cannot eat Gold and be nourished with all you need. Life is what matters in the end as it was in the begining. Save the Salmon.
You can not pay keep a roof over your head with new-age envirobabble either. Gold panning saw many families throught the Great (most recent) Depression. Small scale panning has little to no impact on the environment.
They aren't talking about panning. It's about dredging. Different thing entirely. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 405501
That is where the need for conservativship of the Salmon comes to the fore. Dredging is the imputous for the need move by the state and not simply to thwart all harvesting of the gold.
What I would like to see now is our humble servants on the hill give an accounting of our holdings and a statement of pit treasury accounts. Truth is by law we have more than enough gold, the issue seems to me our trustees.....
Last Edited by II-Neutron on 11/5/2009 at 2:25 AM
By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. Hebrews: 11 |
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II-Neutron
User ID: 806646
11/5/2009 2:43 AM
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You cannot eat Gold and be nourished with all you need. Life is what matters in the end as it was in the begining. Save the Salmon.
You can not pay keep a roof over your head with new-age envirobabble either. Gold panning saw many families throught the Great (most recent) Depression. Small scale panning has little to no impact on the environment.
They aren't talking about panning. It's about dredging. Different thing entirely. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 405501
That is the key for the need for conservativship of the Salmon comes to the fore. Dredging is the imputous for the need move by the state and not simply to thwart all harvesting of the gold.
What I would like to see now is our humble servants on the hill give an accounting of our holdings and a statement of pit treasury accounts. Truth is by law we have more than enough gold, the issue seems to me our trustees.....
By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. Hebrews: 11 |
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