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WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW
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ntakar
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11/4/2009 3:21 PM
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WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN? Dominic Waghorn
November 04, 2009 1:29 PM
Is Israel in the advanced stages of preparing to attack Iran to destroy its alleged nuclear facilities?
I asked two of Israel’s leading journalists in the field of defence and security. This is an interview with Dr. Ronen Bergman author of ‘The Secret War with Iran’.
DW: Is apprehensive about the current diplomatic track and the current nuclear offer from western nations?
RB: Israel is convinced that this is a major achievement for the Iranians. Israel is convinced that Iran is determined to have the bomb, Iran is trying to reach it as soon as possible and Israel thinks that the present agreement and the engagement are lowering the economic pressure on Iran and therefore make it far more possible for it to continue. So from the Israeli point of view this is a major error of the west and paradoxically it makes the chances of an Israeli attack much much higher.
DW: But it would make it harder for Israel to carry out the attack in the sense that international opinion will be against Israel, won’t it?
RB: I always try to explain to non Israelis that they will not be able to understand Israelis or Israeli politicians and the Israeli decision making process without understanding how profound how deep is the memory of the holocaust in the overall character of the Israelis. AT the end of the day the first priority of the Israeli Prime Minister would not be American rage, European condemnation or Iranian retaliation, the first priority is that Israel, the Jewish people would never face another Holocaust. And therefore if the time comes when the Israeli Prime Minister receives information that Iran is on the verge of having a bomb I would suspect that he would have only one choice, one decision to make.
DW: Does the current Prime Minister have what it takes to make that decision?
RB: I think so and campaign slogans have a tendency to become reality and Prime Minister Netanyahu has made it his campaign slogan. Not on my shift. Iran will not become a nuclear military state. I believe that even if Iran becomes a military nuclear superpower it does mean the end of Israel but it surely means the end of the political career of Benjamin Netanyahu and he understands that as well.
DW: Does the Israeli military believe it’s capable of knocking out Iran’s nuclear military potential.
RB: No, nobody is talking about the full destruction of the project. Everyone is talking about the delay and now the calculation is how long and what’s the price. The Israeli military, the Israeli Air Force, the Israeli intelligence community is all preparing for a possible strike. Theoretically even if tomorrow the prime minister orders the strike the plans are ready the planes are ready the pilots have been practising this for a very long time. It can be commenced tomorrow. The assessment is that a successful attack would result in a delay of three to four years. Is it enough, of course not, but the hope in Israel is that with such a delay, at the end of the day, the regime would collapse before they close the gap. The overall assessment is that Israel knows enough about the Iranian attempts to hide the facilities from the international community so it is able to destroy facilities that Iranians are convinced are not going to be hit in such at attack.
DW: Do you personally think it will happen?
RB: If history continues on its current path, yes. AT the end of the day, Israel will attack. The Iranians have expressed no willingness to stop the project. They see it as a necessity as an insurance policy for the regime to have the bomb. They don’t want to bomb Israel but Israel on the other hand still adopting the Begin doctrine, saying that Israel would never tolerate the existence of an atomic bomb in the hands of a country that calls for its destruction.
DW: The problem is that if they do strike it only puts it back three years but gives Iran the ability to say, well we weren’t building the bomb but we are now because of what just happened to us and then they will have much of the world’s opinion on their side. It could be totally counterproductive for Israel.
RB: And I could add numerous calculations and motivations why not to attack. It would unite the Iranian people behind the regime. It will ignite a series of terrorist bombings throughout the world against Israel. It will raise oil prices. It would create rage from the Oval Office, but the first reason why such an attack would occur is that the Israeli Prime Minister would never accept the existence of non conventional warfare, of an atomic bomb in the hands of a country like Iran.
DW: Can you explain that fear and the fear Israelis have about this to an audience in the UK to help them understand how they feel about it here?
RB: The first prime minister of Israel David Ben Gurion used to say “My worst nightmare is that I brought the survivors of the holocaust to Israel and their sons and daughters would face another holocaust. The fear of extinction, the existential threat is profound to anything happening in Israel, any sort of decision any sort of thinking any sort of mindset derives from the holocaust. And when Ahmedinejad is talking about the destruction of Israel and trying to have the bomb this immediately translates in the minds of Israelis into what Hitler used to say and what Hitler did. Israel is a tiny country. Israel cannot even sustain even one nuclear blast. Therefore from the Israeli point of view the only way to combat it is not by a balance of deterrence but by preventing the other side from having it in the first place.
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ntakar
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11/4/2009 3:23 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
Holy shit there gonna attack tomorrow, just read between the lines. Its plain to see thatz its either gonna happen tomorrow or in a few days.....max. Folks get out ur popcorn coz this shit officially hit the fan.....LETS GET THIS STARTED IN HERE!!!! I LOVE THAT BEP SONG LOOOOOL |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/4/2009 3:28 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/4/2009 3:29 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
Wow, kind of puts the Isreali mind set into focus. |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/4/2009 3:35 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
This is 4 years ago..
Planned US-Israeli Attack on Iran
[link to www.globalresearch.ca]
The story stays the same |
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Resister 
In God we trust
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11/4/2009 3:41 PM
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Wow, kind of puts the Isreali mind set into focus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 611170
Yep. So many people just have no idea what it's like to be boxed in on all sides and under not just constant attack, but constant threat of annihilation. It's not like they can simply retreat. They are surrounded by people who viciously hate them and want them dead. One nuclear bomb would make for a very bad day in 1 city here in America. One nuclear bomb would just about "wipe Israel off the map", to quote Achmadinijad.
I support Israel's right exist in a safe homeland and to the necessary means of self preservation.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
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ntakar
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11/4/2009 3:41 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 723299
Are you stupid what do u mean this is 4 years ago, the interview was conducted today. This is to get the masses mentally ready for an attack, so get ready because question time is over my child lool. Here is the link my the way to prove my post......
[link to blogs.news.sky.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 723299
11/4/2009 3:51 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
This is 4 years ago..
Planned US-Israeli Attack on Iran
[ link to www.globalresearch.ca]
The story stays the same
Are you stupid what do u mean this is 4 years ago, the interview was conducted today. This is to get the masses mentally ready for an attack, so get ready because question time is over my child lool. Here is the link my the way to prove my post......
[ link to blogs.news.sky.com]
I mean that the threat is there for a couple of years not that the interview was 4 years old.. |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/4/2009 3:55 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
people people, ain't nuthin' gonna happen....
go on home now. |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/4/2009 4:01 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
Holy shit there gonna attack tomorrow, just read between the lines. Its plain to see thatz its either gonna happen tomorrow or in a few days.....max. Folks get out ur popcorn coz this shit officially hit the fan.....LETS GET THIS STARTED IN HERE!!!! I LOVE THAT BEP SONG LOOOOOL Quoting: ntakar
dude chill, it says they could if needed. not the will. relax doomtard |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 810391
11/4/2009 4:03 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
"...RB: I always try to explain to non Israelis that they will not be able to understand Israelis or Israeli politicians and the Israeli decision making process without understanding how profound how deep is the memory of the holocaust in the overall character of the Israelis. AT the end of the day the first priority of the Israeli Prime Minister would not be American rage, European condemnation or Iranian retaliation, the first priority is that Israel, the Jewish people would never face another Holocaust. And therefore if the time comes when the Israeli Prime Minister receives information that Iran is on the verge of having a bomb I would suspect that he would have only one choice, one decision to make...."
The problem is:
If Israel attacks Iran's nuke project, it may result in a holocaust for Israel via Hezbullah, Syria, Hamas and other anti-Israel factions. |
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MuzicSoulWorldly
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11/4/2009 4:23 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
"Remember, remember, the 5th of November, the gun-powder treason plot." This was quoted by the character V in the movie "V For Vendetta", and I just now realized that this would most definitely be Israel's vendetta against Iran.
Another instance where we see the date of November 5th is in the movie "Back To The Future", where Doc Emmitt Brown was describing to Marty how he came to invent time-travel, "I remember it vividly, I was standing on the toilet hanging a clock, the porcelain was wet, I slipped hit my head on the edge of the sink, and when I came to I had a revelation, a vision, a picture in my head, a picture of this. This, is what makes time-travel possible, the flux-capacitor."
It'z kinda intriguing how in both instances it'z about remembering the date as being something very incredibly important occuring.
Also, here is a link showing all of the instances where 9/11 was subliminally put into our sub-conscious mindz in movies, TV showz, and even advertising, and there are just so very many that you just know beyond any shadowz of any doubtz that they were no coincidences at all whatsoever: [link to www.vyzygoth.com] One of those really stands out in "The Long Kiss Goodnight" whereby the one terrorist says, "Unfortunately, Mr. Hennessey, I have no idea how to fake killing 4,000 people, so we’re just going to have to do it for real. Blame it on the Muslims, naturally. Then I get my funding. Goodnight, old girl. Timothy I’ll be in chopper one."
Aaron |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/4/2009 4:28 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
For what it's worth Israel is testing their air raid sirens on the North tomorrow.....
[link to www.ynetnews.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/4/2009 4:39 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/4/2009 4:41 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
Wow, kind of puts the Isreali mind set into focus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 611170
Yeah really.
Kill kill kill
Kill kill kill
Kill kill kill
It's all they seem to be able to think about. |
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lime flavoured
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11/4/2009 4:51 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
Theoretically even if tomorrow the prime minister orders the strike the plans are ready the planes are ready the pilots have been practising this for a very long time. It can be commenced tomorrow. The assessment is that a successful attack would result in a delay of three to four years. Quoting: ntakar
I've been saying this for ages. |
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lime flavoured
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11/4/2009 4:52 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
The problem is:
If Israel attacks Iran's nuke project, it may result in a holocaust for Israel via Hezbullah, Syria, Hamas and other anti-Israel factions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 810391
I don't disagree, but that doesn't make it any less likely that Israel will do it. |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/4/2009 5:23 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
it would be fun to watch.. |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/4/2009 5:26 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
it would be fun to watch.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 808813
Another gungho Jewboy couch commando that think's it's fun to watch OTHER people die from 8,000 miles away.
(But would never even dream of crawling out from under his mother's bed to join the army and face the bullets himself) |
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MuzicSoulWorldly
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11/4/2009 6:08 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
it would be fun to watch..
Another gungho Jewboy couch commando that think's it's fun to watch OTHER people die from 8,000 miles away.
(But would never even dream of crawling out from under his mother's bed to join the army and face the bullets himself) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20203
He doesn't necessarily have to be Jewish, he could be 100% American or any other nationality whom thinkz it'z fun to watch a war being commenced.
Aaron |
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MuzicSoulWorldly
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11/4/2009 6:10 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
Wow, kind of puts the Isreali mind set into focus.
Yeah really.
Kill kill kill
Kill kill kill
Kill kill kill
It's all they seem to be able to think about. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20203
If this is the case, then how come they haven't been starting the killing ? The times in the past like in 2006, it was Hamas and Hezzbolah which provoked Israel. If they were all about killing killing killing, then they wouldn't be waiting to be striking Iran, and do you not think that Iran is about killing ?
Aaron |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 20203
11/4/2009 6:11 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
it would be fun to watch..
Another gungho Jewboy couch commando that think's it's fun to watch OTHER people die from 8,000 miles away.
(But would never even dream of crawling out from under his mother's bed to join the army and face the bullets himself)
He doesn't necessarily have to be Jewish, he could be 100% American or any other nationality whom thinkz it'z fun to watch a war being commenced.
Aaron Quoting: MuzicSoulWorldly
Yeah okay.
I got $50 that sez he's a Jewboy. But of course he'd lie about it. That's what they do.
But ask yourself just exactly who else would type some idiotic shit like that. |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/4/2009 6:19 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
Wow, kind of puts the Isreali mind set into focus.
Yeah really.
Kill kill kill
Kill kill kill
Kill kill kill
It's all they seem to be able to think about. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20203
Your and idiot |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 806818
11/4/2009 6:22 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
So, will there be a false flag event tomorrow in the United States of America? They have to convince the American people to attack Iran. That's only if America is actually planning to attack Iran. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 20203
11/4/2009 6:24 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
Wow, kind of puts the Isreali mind set into focus.
Yeah really.
Kill kill kill
Kill kill kill
Kill kill kill
It's all they seem to be able to think about.
Your and idiot Quoting: Anonymous Coward 680532
'Your and idiot'?
They don't have spell check in Israel? |
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lime flavoured
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11/4/2009 6:25 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
So, will there be a false flag event tomorrow in the United States of America? They have to convince the American people to attack Iran. That's only if America is actually planning to attack Iran. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 806818
Israel don't need US help to start it. They may well need it to finish it though. I don't think it would take an attack on the US to get them involved either, just a retaliation by Iran that's seen as being over the top. |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/4/2009 6:28 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
I appreciate this thread, OP. Thanks for posting. Good info. |
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lime flavoured
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11/4/2009 6:30 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
I appreciate this thread, OP. Thanks for posting. Good info. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 802888
I agree, it's a very interesting interview. |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/4/2009 6:41 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
If only they did...and got their asses kicked really badly |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/4/2009 6:44 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
Remember, remember, the 5th of November
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half fast
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11/4/2009 6:45 PM | | Re: WILL ISRAEL STRIKE IRAN TOMORROW? NOV.4 CRUCIAL INTERVIEW | Quote |
No attack until next year. They have already said that. They are not looking to suprise iran. |
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