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Lysander O'Bibble
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11/4/2009 10:40 PM
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The People v. The 'Corporate' Government of the UNITED STATES -- The Latest !

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This is a long email...strap yourselves in !

Today was pretty hectic to say the least. This morning the docket indicated that the case
had been dismissed and closed and took many of us by surprise as we were waiting for
Rod and Carl to attend the hearing on Friday. But, there weren't any docket notes this
morning to let us know what it meant. There was no mention of whether Rod's Motion had
been acted on. So, it was all a little confusing.

I spoke with Rod and he said that both he and Carl were still headed to DC for the hearing
perhaps to get the the decision directly from the judge and see what needed to be done
next.

THEN, this afternoon the docket notes finally showed on the Court website
https://www.dccourts.gov/pa ...here's what showed up...it looks bad, but it's NOT !

2009 CA 005391 B DALE, RODNEY Vs. UNITED STATES
File Date: 07/29/2009 Case Status: Closed Case Status Date: 07/29/2009
Case Disposition: Dismissed by Court Case Disposition Date: 11/04/2009

Party Information

Party Name Party Alias(es) Party Type Attorney(s)
DALE, RODNEY PLAINTIFF PRO SE
UNITED STATES CORPORATION Defendant

Docket Entries

Date Text

11/04/2009 Dismissed by Court

11/04/2009 Event Resulted: The following event: Initial Scheduling Conference
-60 scheduled for 11/06/2009 at 9:30 am has been resulted as follows: Result:
Event Not Held Case Dismissed Judge: HOLEMAN, BRIAN F Location: Courtroom
A-49

11/04/2009 Order Denying Plaintiff's Motion to Have the Clerk of the Court to
Enter a Default Against the United States Entered on the Docket, signed by
Judge Holeman on 11/04/09. Copies e-served and mailed on 11/04/09-slo.

It is most likely, in the above referenced order, that the reason given will be that the Defendants
never responded to the action and the Motion wasn't really needed or something like that !

The entry below concerned Rod's most recent Motion we were waiting for a decision on...

10/02/2009 Motion to have The Clerk of Court to Enter a Default against the
United States dba Corproation with Order to Enter Default Filed Attorney: PRO
SE (999999) RODNEY DALE (PLAINTIFF); Receipt: 147370 Date: 10/08/2009

Here's what we think happened...

I talked with Dave Buess (the IRS case) and he explained what Rod and he thinks happened...

Yes, the case is OVER...Rod won by Default...and, Yes, the current Motion was denied because
it didn't matter at this point even though the Court originally asked Rod to "please" refile his Petition for Default as a Motion...because in the meantime the Defendants continued to non-respond and the Court procedures call for AUTOMATIC DEFAULT if the Defendants don't respond to the action !
The Defendants had 20 days from 7.29.09 to respond and didn't ! They couldn't OR it would have indicated that, Yes, maybe the government is actually a Corporation !

Apparently today's docket entries DON'T tell the true tale to us unfamiliar with the procedures...
Rod has apparently WON by the Corp defaulting and not responding in the original 20 day time
limit called for. Yes, the Friday hearing is canceled because Rod needs to JUST pick up his paperwork from the Clerk, as the case is over, and bring it to the Judgment Office ! ... And, then
file his Writs of Execution ( "fieri facias" [link to www.lectlaw.com] ) for payment,
attachment, etc. The Judge was merely clearing his calendar with today's docket entries...

But, as you can see from today's docket entries it looks like Rod and Carl lost...HOWEVER,
to those not familiar with how procedures work, it looks like the People lost again ! WRONG !
Maybe they do this intentionally...ya think ?

The Judge did the only thing that he/the Court COULD DO according to their procedures...that is,
issue a Default Judgment Concerning the Defendants for NOT RESPONDING, and then close the case. Rod and Carl will then take the Default Judgment paperwork to the Judgment Office in the
same Court mentioned above...

Now the job of collecting the damages begins !

I'm sure we'll hear more detail and corrections, if what I've written is wrong...maybe in a
couple of days after they get back from DC. There was a PDF and other details in today's earlier email...hope you didn't gun it ! We'll try to keep you in the loop !

Harvey

Background Info...

The DC Case explained...

[link to www.talkshoe.com]

Just look for the 10.7.09 call that's about 44.5 min. long

Here are all the cases in DC...

#1 DALE, RODNEY Vs. UNITED STATES, Case # 2009 CA 005391 B
Initial Scheduling Conference-60 Date: 11/06/2009 Time: 9:30 am
Judge: HOLEMAN, BRIAN F Location: Courtroom A-49
We're still waiting for the judge's decision on Rod's Motion for Default...expected before
Nov. 3....no longer valid !

#2 MANN, DONALD C Vs. UNITED STATES Case # 2009 CA 005865 B
Initial Scheduling Conference-60 Date: 11/20/2009 Time: 9:00 am
Judge: COMBS GREENE, NATALIA Location: Courtroom 217
Waiting for Rod to be allowed to correct paperwork and serve as Private Attorney General
in the case.

#3 Still, not for publication...perhaps soon ?

#4 BUESS, DAVID L Vs. UNITED STATES - Case # 2009 CA 007868 B ...
Initial Scheduling Conference-60 Date: 01/29/2010 Time: 9:30 am Judge:
IRVING Jr, ALFRED S Location: Courtroom A-47

Docket entries now viewable ! Go to the link for the Court...and search by
Buess, David

https://www.dccourts.gov/pa

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 806857
11/4/2009 10:47 PM

Re: The People v. The 'Corporate' Government of the UNITED STATES -- The Latest !	Quote
Good post OP. Keep us informed.

fieldman012
User ID: 793721
11/4/2009 11:06 PM

Re: The People v. The 'Corporate' Government of the UNITED STATES -- The Latest !	Quote
file his Writs of Execution ( "fieri facias" [link to www.lectlaw.com] ) for payment, attachment, etc. The Judge was merely clearing his calendar with today's docket entries... Now the job of collecting the damages begins ! Quoting: Lysander O'Bibble 784956 I would be interested in exactly what goods and chattel will be sought in the Writ.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 810249
11/4/2009 11:12 PM

Re: The People v. The 'Corporate' Government of the UNITED STATES -- The Latest !	Quote
thanks OP, please keep us informed.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 784956 (OP)
11/4/2009 11:50 PM

Re: The People v. The 'Corporate' Government of the UNITED STATES -- The Latest !

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file his Writs of Execution ( "fieri facias" [link to www.lectlaw.com] ) for payment,
attachment, etc. The Judge was merely clearing his calendar with today's docket entries...

Now the job of collecting the damages begins !

I would be interested in exactly what goods and chattel will be sought in the Writ.

Quoting: fieldman012 793721

The damages sought are $10,000,000 in Gold/Silver AND $10,000,000 in FRNs and a chance to confront Congress !

Oh, did I mention that the case was on the behalf of the 300,000,00 ?

So, there a shitload of goods and chattel at stake ! Plenty to go around, I think ?

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 810582
11/5/2009 12:09 AM

Re: The People v. The 'Corporate' Government of the UNITED STATES -- The Latest !	Quote
Maybe they didn't respond because they aren't a corporation?

ShadowDancer
User ID: 287857
11/5/2009 5:18 AM

Re: The People v. The 'Corporate' Government of the UNITED STATES -- The Latest !

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for interest

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"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
~Alice's Adventures in Wonderland

There is little gain in attempting to change external conditions, you must first change the core of inner beliefs, naturally outer conditions will change accordingly.
BECOME it to achieve it.

Wisdom strengthened the wise more than ten mighty men which are in the city. Ecclesiastes 7:19

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Does the shadow appear to be growing darker? The light that is casting shadows is becoming much brighter; in utter darkness it is luminous.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 784956 (OP)
11/5/2009 11:42 AM

Re: The People v. The 'Corporate' Government of the UNITED STATES -- The Latest !	Quote
Maybe they didn't respond because they aren't a corporation? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 810582 They have acquiesced to the accusation by SILENCE !

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