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There are living dinosaurs today wipes out darwins theory

 
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I saw a fossil of a fish eating a smaller fish. Do you suppose the fish took millions of years to eat it? No, so the only other explanation is that this happened very quickly..most likely during the flood and it got covered in sedement quickly and fossilized quickly.
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Did you read what i wrote above?
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darwins theory is as Wrong as it gets...
mOst people know that by now.
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Darwin married his cousin and had retarded kids. They all died early and had problems. So much for this genius idiot!!
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They just found their niche early. No need to evolve further. Simple.
Everything is permitted..
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darwins theory is as Wrong as it gets...
mOst people know that by now.

Darwin married his cousin and had retarded kids. They all died early and had problems. So much for this genius idiot!!
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Ahh so now the agenda is character assasination rather than tackling the theory.

You are making yourself look bad.

Yes darwin married his 1st or 2nd cousin, he was wealthy and it was the 1800's that kind of shit went on all the time.

People in the bible did far worse.
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darwins theory is as Wrong as it gets...
mOst people know that by now.

Darwin married his cousin and had retarded kids. They all died early and had problems. So much for this genius idiot!!


Ahh so now the agenda is character assasination rather than tackling the theory.

You are making yourself look bad.

Yes darwin married his 1st or 2nd cousin, he was wealthy and it was the 1800's that kind of shit went on all the time.

People in the bible did far worse.
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Classic debating technique from the religulous crowd is to deflect the main subject at hand and instead try to go for character assassinations or even attack the poster directly, once they realize their logic was destroyed and they were made to look like a fool.
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I saw a fossil of a fish eating a smaller fish. Do you suppose the fish took millions of years to eat it? No, so the only other explanation is that this happened very quickly..most likely during the flood and it got covered in sedement quickly and fossilized quickly.


Did you read what i wrote above?
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[link to paleo.cc]
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Yep, these idiots think a chimpanze gave birth to a fully formed human being though, i have no idea where that fucking idea came from.
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You're a liar, nobody believes that. We know you think evolution takes "a very long time". You said that a human child never carries the exact same features of his parent, but you omit one glaring fact - that the parent still begets a human child. They all possess the genes of humans, no matter how "varied" they are. A dark skinned midget can still have sex with a 7 foot pale-skinned squint-eyed female and still produce offspring. Does this escape you? Can a chimp and a human produce offspring? No. Because a chimp begets a chimp, a human begets a human. Always has been, always will be. This isn't complicated.
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Re: There are living dinosaurs today wipes out darwins theory
They just found their niche early. No need to evolve further. Simple.
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Dont think its about need, genetic diversity helps, i guess certain animals and plants were so succesful the gene pool became very similar and the evolutionary process became ballanced.

Humans evoloved to the point whereby we could communicate extremely complicated ideas, we are the masters of our own evolution now, we control it, nature doesnt control us.

Well i guess nature does if you consider natural distasters, thats why its important for the human race to get off this rock.

All it takes is a large asteroid and blam its all over.

Getting into space and surviving is the point, we colonize mars and the moon we significantly increase our chances of survival as a lifeform.
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I saw a fossil of a fish eating a smaller fish. Do you suppose the fish took millions of years to eat it? No, so the only other explanation is that this happened very quickly..most likely during the flood and it got covered in sedement quickly and fossilized quickly.


Did you read what i wrote above?

[link to paleo.cc]
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Yes, dinosaur tracks next to man tracks.
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I saw a fossil of a fish eating a smaller fish. Do you suppose the fish took millions of years to eat it? No, so the only other explanation is that this happened very quickly..most likely during the flood and it got covered in sedement quickly and fossilized quickly.


Did you read what i wrote above?
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It takes alot of faith to believe in a fairy tale. When you put atheist out on a desert Island, they always end up believing in God.
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There is plenty of scientific evidence to prove evolution can one of you churchtards care to show me some scientific evidence of god!
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Lets get this straight fuckheads.

EVOLUTION = The propogation of traits because of parrents surviving long enough to breed.

ABIOGENESIS = How life here started from chemicals and elements into molecules that could copy themselves.

They are different theories.

EVOLUTION has nothing to do with how life started, it explains how life changes.



EVOLUTION = SIMPLE.



Imagine a closed system, in that system you have mice, sand coloured and black mice, you also have an eagle which eats the mice.


The ground is made of sand, the sand coloured mice have a trait which enables them to survive better over the black mice, because the sand coloured mice blend in with the surroundings so evade the predator better.

ERGO the black mice are killed and hunted more often, which leaves more sand coloured mice to produce offspring, they have genes which produce a sand colour and they propagate over time, the black mice may even go extinct.



DO YOU UNDERSTAND IT NOW.



Couple this with the fact animals have millions if not billions of genes, factor in mitosis which is when half of each parrents chromosones combine to produce a unique offspring and add time into the equation = EVOLUTION!

The changing environment IE, Weather conditions, geological conditions etc dictates what survives because whatever traits they have which give them an advantage means they have more chance to produce offspring.
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What an arrogant foul-mouth dumbass. The black mice won't go extinct. It's still a frekin mouse. The black trait will diminish. What won't happen is the mouse become some flying reptile that eats eagles.
Evolution is claimed by some to be the mechanism of biogenesis. Ergo, propane evolves into goo evolves into cells.
Funny how you intellectuals change the meaning of words when your worldview is attacked. Up until the advent of the laws of information and entropy were understood, people claimed intellectual superiority and scoffed at those who didn't think "Life evolved from chemicals".
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This is just retarded. bsflag
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If you haven't caught on that evolution plays a big part in the tearing down of this country, then your a total zombie.
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Re: There are living dinosaurs today wipes out darwins theory
Lets get this straight fuckheads.

EVOLUTION = The propogation of traits because of parrents surviving long enough to breed.

ABIOGENESIS = How life here started from chemicals and elements into molecules that could copy themselves.

They are different theories.

EVOLUTION has nothing to do with how life started, it explains how life changes.



EVOLUTION = SIMPLE.



Imagine a closed system, in that system you have mice, sand coloured and black mice, you also have an eagle which eats the mice.


The ground is made of sand, the sand coloured mice have a trait which enables them to survive better over the black mice, because the sand coloured mice blend in with the surroundings so evade the predator better.

ERGO the black mice are killed and hunted more often, which leaves more sand coloured mice to produce offspring, they have genes which produce a sand colour and they propagate over time, the black mice may even go extinct.



DO YOU UNDERSTAND IT NOW.



Couple this with the fact animals have millions if not billions of genes, factor in mitosis which is when half of each parrents chromosones combine to produce a unique offspring and add time into the equation = EVOLUTION!

The changing environment IE, Weather conditions, geological conditions etc dictates what survives because whatever traits they have which give them an advantage means they have more chance to produce offspring.

What an arrogant foul-mouth dumbass. The black mice won't go extinct. It's still a frekin mouse. The black trait will diminish. What won't happen is the mouse become some flying reptile that eats eagles.
Evolution is claimed by some to be the mechanism of biogenesis. Ergo, propane evolves into goo evolves into cells.
Funny how you intellectuals change the meaning of words when your worldview is attacked. Up until the advent of the laws of information and entropy were understood, people claimed intellectual superiority and scoffed at those who didn't think "Life evolved from chemicals".
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If evolution was true, there would be a person every square inch on the earth. You must have a mouse brain.
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Evolution the way darwinists describe it can't happen because the changes require many smaller stages of mutation that give no advantage at all so would'nt continue to develop.

Adaptation, yes, but not evolution with massive changes, Just because men and monkeys share a lot of dna that does'nt mean one evolved from the other, it just means that whoever made us used a lot of components that were common between us. A computer contains many of the same components as a computer, but they are totally different things.
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Sorry, i meant computer contains many of the same components as a radio.
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Cryptozoological Realms

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Artwork by Bill Rebsamen

Mokele-mbembe: The Living Dinosaur!



Introduction
In the jungles of central Africa countries of Congo, Cameroon, and Gabon are reports of animal an animal with a long neck, a long tail, and rounded shape tracks with three claws. The closest known animal that has these characteristics is a sauropod dinosaur.

When some of the local people of the Likouala region would draw in the dirt or sand a representation of Mokele-mbembe they drew the shape of a sauropod dinosaur. Then when they were shown a picture of a sauropod dinosaur they said that picture is Mokele-mbembe.

Mokele-mbembe means "One that stops the flow of rivers." French priest in the region called it "monstrous animal."

Mokele-mbembe is also used as a generic term to refer to other animals like Emela-ntouka, Mbielu-mbielu-mbielu, and Nguma-monene.

Description
Body
Mokele-mbembe has been described as an animal with a long neck and tail which are characteristics of a sauropod dinosaur.

Its body size is somewhere between the size of a hippopotamus and an elephant. Its length has been reported to be between 5 to 10 meters (16 to 32 feet). The length of the neck is between 1.6 to 3.3 meters (5 to 10 feet). The length of the tail is between 1.6 to 3.3 meters (5 to 10 feet). The reports out of Cameroon have reported Mokele-mbembe to be up to 75 feet in length.

There have also been reports of a frill on the back of the head. The frill is like the comb found on a cock (male chicken). There has also been reports of it having a horn on its head.

Skin
The color of the skin is predominately reddish-brown with a color range from gray to brown. There are no reports of hair on the animal.

Tracks
Rounded shape between 30 to 90 centimeters (1 to 3 feet) in diameter with three claws. The distance between tracks is about 2.1 to 2.4 meters (7 to 8 feet).

Sound
The basic belief is that Mokele-mbembe does not make any sounds, though there have been come conflicting reports. This is probably due to the fact that Mokele-mbembe is used generically for other animals and the sound is being confused with Emela-ntouka which makes a sound like a snort, howl, roar, rumble, or growl.

Habitat
Mokele-mbembe lives in the pools and swamps adjacent to the rivers of the Likouala swamp region of The People's Republic of the Congo on the continent of Africa. Its uses the lakes as a crossing path to go from one river to another river.

Diet
The pygmies of the Likouala swamp region report that the essential diet of Mokele-mbembe consists of the Malombo plant. Since it only eats plants then Mokele-mbembe is classified as a herbivore. The Malombo plant actually describes two plants: Landolphia mannii and Landolphia owariensis.

Behavior
Mokele-mbembe lives most of the time underwater except when it eats or travels to another part of the swamp.

It has as been reported that Mokele-mbembe does not like hippopotamuses and will kill them on sight, but it does not eat them. Hippopotamuses cannot be found where Mokele-mbembe lives.

It has as been reported that Mokele-mbembe will overturn boats and kill the people from the boats by biting them and hitting them with its tail, but it does not eat the people.

Sightings
•April 2000 - Cameroon, Boumba River, Two Congolese security guards
Expeditions
•2001 - February/March - CryptoSafari, Cameroon
•2000 - November - Gibbons-Wetzel, Cameroon
•1992 - Operation Congo 2
•1992 - Japanese Expedition
Bibliographies
•A Living Dinosaur? In Search of Mokele-mbembe by Dr. Roy P. Mackal
•Drums Along the Congo: On the Trial of Mokele-mbembe, the Last Living Dinosaur by Rory Nugent.
•Results of the First Congolese Mokele-Mbembe Expedition by Agnagna, Marcellin
•On the Track of Unknown Animals by Dr.Bernard Heuvelmans
•Les Derniers Dragons d'Afrique (The Last Dragons of Africa) by Dr.Bernard Heuvelmans
•In Search of Prehistoric Survivors: Do Giant 'Extinct' Creatures Still Exist by Dr. Karl Shuker
Links
•Corliss, William R. "Mokele-mbembe." [link to www.science-frontiers.com]
•Gibbons, Bill. "Was a Mokele-mbembe killed at Lake Tele?." [link to www.anomalist.com]
•TrueAuthority.com. "Mokele-mbembe, of Africa." [link to www.trueauthority.com]
•O'Donnell, Phillip "Mokele-mbembe: a dinosaur of Africa?." [link to www.livingdinos.com]
•Quammen, David . "MegaTransect: Across 1,200 Miles of Untamed Africa on Foot." [link to www.nationalgeographic.com]
www.mokelembembe.com listed on



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 Quoting: nobody 799171

Evolutionists, explain why they find trees all the time going straight up thru many layers of soil. Also, they found a petrified man's boot. This proves that things can petrify in less than the time they state. They can't prove the real age of things from carbon 14 dating either. Not accurate.
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You're a liar, nobody believes that.
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Yes they do, one of the common things said is, well why are chimps not turning into people.

Those kind of statements just show a complete ignorance to the theory.

We know you think evolution takes "a very long time". You said that a human child never carries the exact same features of his parent.

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Not sure exactly how i worded it without looking at my post, the offspring in humans carries 23 sets of genes from both parrents, each egg and sperm produced by cell meiosis in the parrents contains a selection of genes, certain genes from certain parrents are dominant and ressesive.

You can have two parrents who carry a gene, but they dont show characteristics of that gene, there is a slight chance like 25% that the offspring could display this trait, its how things like hair colour, eye colour and genetic diseases are carried and change from parent to offspring.


but you omit one glaring fact - that the parent still begets a human child
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Well DUH, look at 100,000 generations of humans, they are not what we consider human anymore.

If the ape thing confused you, chimpanzees and ourselves share a common ancestor millions of years back, some of those ancestors eventually ended up as chimps, gorrillas, orang utans, some ended up as man.

We share like 70% of our DNA with a cabbage, we cant fuck a cabbage and have cabbage patch kids, it doesnt work like that. Have to be reasonsibly close, however you can transfer genes from one lifeform to another.

They took the gene from a jellyfish that makes them Fluorescent and transported it into a mouse and made the mouse Fluoresce.


A dark skinned midget can still have sex with a 7 foot pale-skinned squint-eyed female and still produce offspring. Does this escape you?
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You clearly dont understand how genetics work, the DNA is the same the genes are different.

Can a chimp and a human produce offspring? No.
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Dont actually know, i am not a geneticist or a biologist, i would imagine the DNA is too different, i have no idea.

However you can breed a dog like a shitzu with a great dane, sure they might not be able to copulate physically because of the size and physical difference but because they are essentially genetically the same thing it can be done artificially.
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What an arrogant foul-mouth dumbass. The black mice won't go extinct. It's still a frekin mouse. The black trait will diminish. What won't happen is the mouse become some flying reptile that eats eagles.
Evolution is claimed by some to be the mechanism of biogenesis. Ergo, propane evolves into goo evolves into cells.
Funny how you intellectuals change the meaning of words when your worldview is attacked. Up until the advent of the laws of information and entropy were understood, people claimed intellectual superiority and scoffed at those who didn't think "Life evolved from chemicals".

If evolution was true, there would be a person every square inch on the earth. You must have a mouse brain.
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Come on Mcfly. Read my post. I was disputing the athiest!
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It takes alot of faith to believe in a fairy tale. When you put atheist out on a desert Island, they always end up believing in God.
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Funny that because if i forced you to have kids at gunpoint, then kidnapped the baby 9 months later and put it on a desert island, it wouldnt have any idea of what god is.
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This is just retarded. bsflag

No, you are, you believe your great grand father was a monkey, and your cousin is a fish.


Guess what, you can't debunk something if you don't even understand the basics. It's like someone trying to disprove algebra that doesn't understand addition.
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I agree.
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It takes alot of faith to believe in a fairy tale. When you put atheist out on a desert Island, they always end up believing in God.


Funny that because if i forced you to have kids at gunpoint, then kidnapped the baby 9 months later and put it on a desert island, it wouldnt have any idea of what god is.
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Bullshit.
Ever heard of Helen Keller?
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Classic debating technique from the religulous crowd is to deflect the main subject at hand and instead try to go for character assassinations or even attack the poster directly, once they realize their logic was destroyed and they were made to look like a fool.
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I know, this thread is getting tedious already.

They now expect me to be an expert in evolutionary biology genetics and many other branches of science.

They already look like fools to the educated, dont need my help.
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This is just retarded. bsflag
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WEll, in the school books they are affirming that evolution is true when they should really state in the books that it is a theory. That is their first mistake. Second, if you are telling people that dinosaurs died out millions of years ago, wouldn't one have ask every person that ever lived to confirm this? That is why it is so stupid. Perhaps millions of people have seen them, fought them, killed them, and eaten them. We just got that gap so Satan has taken advantage of that. But the bible talks about dragons all thru it. So you are the close minded one. Not me. If people could just open their minds from the brainwashing!

Hitler once said, "If you tell a lie loud enough and often enough, the people will believe it." That's what's wrong with this country and why it is failing. From the brainwashing of evolution. When you kick God out of a nation, the nation is going to fall.
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This is just retarded. bsflag
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WEll, in the school books they are affirming that evolution is true when they should really state in the books that it is a theory. That is their first mistake. Second, if you are telling people that dinosaurs died out millions of years ago, wouldn't one have ask every person that ever lived to confirm this? That is why it is so stupid. Perhaps millions of people have seen them, fought them, killed them, and eaten them. We just got that gap so Satan has taken advantage of that. But the bible talks about dragons all thru it. So you are the close minded one. Not me. If people could just open their minds from the brainwashing!

Hitler once said, "If you tell a lie loud enough and often enough, the people will believe it." That's what's wrong with this country and why it is failing. From the brainwashing of evolution. When you kick God out of a nation, the nation is going to fall.
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yeah you didnt even read your own website you are atempting to quote mine.
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There is plenty of scientific evidence to prove evolution can one of you churchtards care to show me some scientific evidence of god!
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Thats a little unfair because its still a legitimate philsophical idea to debate.

The problem is THE GOD OF THE RELIGIOUS TEXTS.

Not the idea of a metaphysical all knowing consciousness.
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Bullshit.
Ever heard of Helen Keller?
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Hows it bullshit, what were people before the bible was published then?

Were they christians?

Yeah didnt think so.
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Sorry, i meant computer contains many of the same components as a radio.
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Congratulations you just answered your own question.

They are called DNA, GENES, CHROMOSOMES.
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What an arrogant foul-mouth dumbass. The black mice won't go extinct.
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They will if they all get eaten, because they are less well adapted to the surrounding environment.
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