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Joseph Moshe, Baxter, Swine-Flu, Bio-Weapons, Pandemic, and Ukraine. Find Out What Connects Them All!

 
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Thanks Shadow Dancer hf

Question: Since this plague in Ukr. is a different beast (NOT h1n1) anything different for preparation (versus h1n1- Vit. D3, oil of oreg...etc... any suggestions?
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Thanks Shadow Dancer hf

Question: Since this plague in Ukr. is a different beast (NOT h1n1) anything different for preparation (versus h1n1- Vit. D3, oil of oreg...etc... any suggestions?
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It's premeditated mass murder; another step to the wonderful world socialist nightmare tyranny our traitorous "leaders" have sold out the USA for.

You mean:".....tyranny our traitorous "leaders" have sold out the WHOLE WORLD for"

When will you American fucks see that it is your country who wants to posses the whole of the world?
You are not the only victims, stop being so bloody selfish and fight that evil PTB!
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the UNIVERSE is absorbing our thoughts and observations...
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Thanks Shadow Dancer hf

Question: Since this plague in Ukr. is a different beast (NOT h1n1) anything different for preparation (versus h1n1- Vit. D3, oil of oreg...etc... any suggestions?
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I would stick with that which works



prepare your spirit and keep immune system strong


Colloidal silver-the high quality and do not overuse...

a zapper...Royal Rife or Hulda Clarke -all depends alot on ones resources


Negative ions are good for air filtration and one could buy an ionizer


cigarettes are actually more helpful...but terrible habit


Lots of clean water, minimize contact in tightly contained and/or crowded areas...


hot water and soap


the bottom line is one could take all precautions and still get it-and still survive...otoh one could do it and have a different outcome

The same can be said for those who have great immune systems and no special precautions(outside of normal ones)

Of course, the more infection spreads or people are contagious due to taking live virus flumist...etc...the greater one needs to take precautions



I do not use anti bacterial hand sanitizer and I know many schools do...only if I must in an emergency-

I suspect and there is info to support that they could be creating super skin bugs by the overuse of it...


fresh air circulating off and on is helpful-otoh if a lot of activity overhead-one might limit their exposure...I sense we are having it administered in VARIOUS ways...known and UNKNOWN

go through the info quickly once you have the lay of the land-they are trying to purposefully keep all frazzled trying to keep up-that is the submission and letting go part

one can only cover so much and do the best they can do-much of it is beyond any preparation...inner is much more important as it will likely go poorly for most...

It is rather overwhelming-but I think it is important many take the responsibility of their lives more plainly for themselves and their families

as the state tries to take them as their own...stay close with family...prayer and meditation-do not allow fear a foothold

burnit and channel energy to the upright and the true-

keep speaking out and focusing on the truth

discern...any visitors...ANY

Do not be baited


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H5N1 is going to be a bit more severe and as other mutations take hold...well...good hygiene...



adapt as best you can

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When Japan happened I responded: "The Excrement Has Impacted the Rotary Oscillator." and clearly it has.
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'Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. This kind of liberal orientation has great appeal. We must electrically control the brain. Some day armies and generals will be controlled by electric stimulation of the brain.’
- U.S. government mind manipulator, Dr. Jose Delgado, Congressional Record, No. 262E, Vol. 118, 1974
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Pneumonic Plague Drill Held in Illinois !
•This is a strange coincidence right? Reports coming in of hemorrhagic pneumonic plague in Ukraine and suddenly we have this police drill in Illinois, America. Keep in mind also that China had quarantined a town of 10,000+ people over 2 deaths from pneumonic plague! 3 coincidences, 3 totally unrelated events? Not likely. Has the deadly bio-engineered strain of hemorrhagic pneumonia been released? Will the rest of the world goto martial law and mandatory vaccination like what is happening in Ukraine? These are interesting times. Infowars reports:

In Lake in the Hills, Illinois, police will conduct a drill to combat a fictitious pneumonic plague on Saturday. “The Lake in the Hills Police Department is carrying out the test as part of a grant from the McHenry County Department of Health for its emergency health plan. In case of a biological terrorist attack or widespread disease outbreak, the site would be able get medicine to the community, Lake in the Hills Chief of Patrol Services David Brey said,” reports the Northwest Herald. Brey said officials picked pneumonic plague for the scenario “so it would have nothing to do with the swine flu.”

In Ukraine, the pneumonic plague is not fictional, although officials in that country insist the disease is a mutated version of the H1N1 virus, not pneumonic plague. Over the period of six days, the mystery disease has afflicted more than 500,000 people. The plague or virus in the Ukraine has 10 times the mortality rate than the normal swine flu. In late October, officials in Ivano-Frankivsk, a city located in southwestern Ukraine, characterized the outbreak as pneumonic plague. Pneumonic plague is caused by bacterium and is more virulent and less common than bubonic plague.

Official Ukranian sources place the number of death at 33 (as of November 5) and the news website ZIK claims a total of 97 deaths. Deutsche Presse-Agentur put the number at 95 and reported on November 5 that 633,877 Ukrainians nationwide have registered with health authorities as suffering from the flu. Doctors in the region, however, dispute this and say thousands have died.

Residents of Kiev claim light aircraft sprayed a mysterious substance on residents of the city, according to Radio Netherlands Worldwide. The spraying was denied by the country’s Office of Emergency Response.

Reports from Ukraine on the mystery illness are contradictory and confusing. “While the mainstream media is reporting that it is a surge in H1N1 influenza, alternative media sources are reporting that it is a new unidentified virus, while other reports cite witnesses in Ukraine who say there is no evidence of a pandemic at all,” Steve Watson wrote for Infowars on November 2. On November 5, it was reported by the alternative media that a town in China was locked down after 2 people died from an outbreak of pneumonic plague. In August, the Associated Press reported on a deadly outbreak of pneumonic plague in a remote farming town in northwestern China.

It should be emphasized that at this time there is no conclusive evidence that Ukraine is suffering from an outbreak of pneumonic plague. Experts note that if the country was indeed suffering from the illness the death rate would be much higher. However, it is odd that a preparedness drill in the United States would use the pneumonic plague as its fictional predicate. It is not explained why officials in Lake in the Hills have chosen to avoid basing their drill on the H1N1 virus.

Lake in the Hills has ranked high in Illinois cities taking federal money for “homeland security” initiatives, according to a survey conducted by the Daily Herald. It is not known if the Department of Homeland Security is involved in the drill to be conducted this weekend.
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Slovakia says it will close all but one of its road borders with Ukraine, where H1N1 has infected more than 900.000 people
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Poland not buying swine flu vaccination unless it has been properly tested
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WARSAW, Poland — Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said Friday that his government won't buy vaccines for swine flu that have not been properly tested or from producers who won't take responsibility for possible side effects.

Tusk told reporters that vaccine producers were pressuring governments to buy, but were also demanding that all responsibility and compensation for possible negative side effects fall upon government shoulders.

"Today we are dealing with great pressure from pharmaceutical firms ... we are dealing with expectations that hundreds of millions of zlotys (dollars) will be spent on vaccine while no one wants to guarantee that it has no side effects," he said.

He stressed that the few dozen swine cases in Poland have been mild and no deaths have been reported.
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Anybody see the movie pandemic?
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It was released 10-20-09.

The above youtube plays a clip from the final scene of this movie.

The plot is very interesting indeed.

Still counting the parallels.
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Um i would like to see some solutions and plans on what to do if this pnumonic plague gets to the US which it looks like it will be.

What are your plans?


Any ideas or solutions to some of the problems we may be facing in the not too distant future with this outbreak?

ummmmmm...., what would you do?
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I already got these items...

Vitamins stored way...

First Aid kits...

Personally I have a CLASS 1 SUIT, CHEMICAL PROTECTIVE found at my local goodwill. (I live near a base)

Isreali M40 gas mask with extra filters.

Chemical gloves.

I have been drinking a "ovaltine" type of choclate mixture that has 17 essential vitamins and minerals in it including Vitamin D3.


Trying to go outside and enjoy the sunshine and exercise...without heavy chemtrails in my area its been off and on recently.

I have my ammo, guns, and silver...

Im thinking about getting duct tape and collidal silver.

If TSHTF i have a bugout bag but, i think im just going to stay in the city, if people are looting the streets i will follow suit and carry empty duffles to grab essential items(food, water, ammo, guns, gold, silver, camping and survival supplies) off the shelfs wihtout being killed, but i will be armed at that time.


I have been praying for everyone saftey and spiritually meditating.

Also to note I have been mentally preparing myself to get ready for TSHTF scenarios by watching certain movies i would say preconditioning so that I wolnt freez or freak out and do somthing stupid to get me or others KIA.

Thats basically it i would recommend everyone to follow what im doing as a general guideline for preparedness planning.
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Thanks Shadow Dancer!!!! i bought Col. Silver today, at 30 (not the 22)something.

Mmm I don't smoke, but will Cigars suffice? Same anti-v?

(not being a wiseguy, but being 40yrs, feel funny smoking cigs.)
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Ukraine: 135 deaths
Via the Kyiv Post: Flu death toll in Ukraine climbs to 135. The whole report:
As many as 135 people have died from the flu and other acute respiratory viral infections in Ukraine as of November 6, including 25 who had died over the previous 24 hours, the Ukrainian Health Ministry reported on Saturday.
Since the moment the epidemic started to spread, 871,037 people have been diagnosed with flu and other respiratory viral infections, including 101,317 over the past 24 hours. As many as 39,603 of these people have been hospitalized, including 4,732 over the past 24 hours, and 317 are in intensive care.
Since the moment the epidemic started to spread, 871,037 people have been diagnosed with flu and other respiratory viral infections, including 101,317 over the past 24 hours.
As many as 39,603 of these people have been hospitalized, including 4,732 over the past 24 hours, and 317 are in intensive care.
Bear in mind that the report says "flu and other acute respiratory viral infections." The Ukrainian health system doesn't seem prepared to identify just what people are falling ill with--especially if it's actually dealing with almost 900,000 cases.
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//... As many as 135 people have died from the flu and other acute respiratory viral infections in Ukraine as of November 6, including 25 who had died over the previous 24 hours, the Ukrainian Health Ministry reported on Saturday. //...
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25 deaths in the past 24 hours!!!

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Ukranian Plague Update: “officially” now over 871,037 infected, 135 deaths, 39,603 hospitalized – Cases of infection are increasing at about 200,000 per day; this is NOT A/H1N1
November 7, 2009 at 4:41 pm (Uncategorized)
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Courtesy of Tim Alexander Earl of Stirling
[link to europebusines.blogspot.com]

The public is being kept in the dark about what is happening in the Ukraine. Please pass this site on to as many family and friends as you can and post links to it on as many sites as you can.

The rapid rise from almost nothing to over 3/4 million people in a week is highly reflective of an Advanced Biowar ‘designer virus’. This is NOT A/H1N1. This is either a new virus or a major recombination of A/H1N1 with another virus/viruses.

UPDATE: Official Ukrainian Plague totals are now: 871,037 infected, 135 deaths, 39,603 hospitalized. The death figures don’t make sense, ARI hospital ER admissions generally result in 5% to 10% fatalities yet only in the non-official reports of several thousand deaths do we get near this percentage. And by the way, those ARI percentages do not involve something like this plague that results in internal temperatures of 135F or hemorrhagic lung tissue (lungs turned to mush) or the lungs being black. We are not getting the truth on this and in fact, most people in America and much of the world do not even know of the strange new wildfire epidemic in the Ukraine. The public is being kept in the dark for as long as possible, so that the virus can spread. So that the public does not question what little is being done to stop the global spread of this new killer disease. Cases of infection are increasing at about 200,000 per day! ~ link

Martial Law ‘all but declared’ in Ukraine over mystery epidemic ~ link ~ Stand way back from the trees and look at the forest: Since the technology was invented about 30 years ago to genetically engineer viruses using recombination, there have been a host of ‘new diseases’ such as AIDS, Ebola, Bird Flu H5N1, Swine Flu A/H1N1, etc. We are living in the Age of Advanced Biological Warfare. This Ukrainian Plague could be a terrible killer throughout the world. Almost nothing is being done to stop the spread of the disease globally; about the same steps to contain the spread of the disease are being taken under WHO’s direction that were taken to contain Mexican Swine Flu (A/H1N1) and look how successful that was.
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HERE IS THE WEBSITE AND THE INFO FROM IT
[link to ukraineplague.blogspot.com] target="_blank">
[link to ukraineplague.blogspot.com]

Ukraine and World Pneumonic Plague Information

This Blog is strictly about what is going on in the Ukraine and possibly spreading in the area. I have been doing the postings on my blog: Sherriequestioningall blog, but this is an ongoing problem that needs it's own information page. I WILL CONTINUALLY UPDATE WITH INFORMATION AND NEWS AS I FIND IT ON WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE UKRAINE!
Saturday, November 7, 2009
UPDATE 11/7/09 6:06 pm est Just Released Latest Official Numbers 144 Dead Over 900,000 Sick
The Latest Official Numbers were just Released!

936,804 Now Sick

144 Dead!

43,762 Hospitalized

Link to Official Numbers:

1. 07.11.2009 Пресрелі&#107​9;и :: Інформац&#111​0;я щодо захворюв&#107​2;ності на грип та гострі респірат&#108​6;рні захворюв&#107​2;ння та їх ускладне&#108​5;ня (пневмоні&#11​11; тощо) станом на "07" листопад&#107​2; 2009 р. 1. 07/11/2009 Press Releases:: Information on the incidence of influenza and acute respiratory infections and their complications (pneumonia, etc.) as "07" November 2009

In one days time, a little less than 100,000 people were reported sick from the "mysterious" Plague. Those official numbers show less people got sick in the same amount of time, then had gotten sick yesterday from the day before.
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UPDATE 11/7/09 3:41pm Withheld Ukraine Sequences Raise Pandemic Concerns
Withheld Ukraine Sequences Raise Pandemic Concerns

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Withheld Ukraine Sequences Raise Pandemic Concerns
Recombinomics Commentary 02:30
November 7, 2009
Right now we know that many clinical specimens and viruses have been sent to one of the WHO collaborating centres for further study. We don't know the results of those studies, and it will probably take a couple of days for the full analysis of those viruses to be available. But in the meantime, what we do not have is any evidence of viruses there or anywhere else as showing any big mutations. I raise this point because I have seen in some media reports that there are reports that WHO or other groups are saying that there are mutations and I want to point out that these are rumours and factually, untrue.

The above comments from Keiji Kukuda offer some general comments on the Ukrainian H1N1 sequences at Mill Hill in London. He specifically says WHO doesn't see any "big" mutations in the samples being sequenced, which would refer to reassortment or Tamiflu resistance. However, the changes seen in Ukraine do not require "big" mutations. Small mutations, such as SNP can have profound effects for a virus like pandemic H1N1.

That virus normally circulates in swine, and has recently jumped to humans. It already has many characteristics with the 1918 pandemic strain. Both are swine H1N1 that jumped to humans. Such species jumpers can increase efficiencies with small changes. One good example is position 627 in the PB2 gene. That position comes in two forms. When there is glutamic acid (E) at that position, the PB2 enzyme copies the viral genetic material most efficiently at 41 C, the body temperature of a bird. However, if that position has a lysine (K), the enzyme is most active at 33 C, the temperature of a human nose in the winter. The swine H1N1 has an E, which may be why it goes well in lung, which is 37 C and closer to the optimal replication temperature of 41C. However, a single change that produced the most efficient replication at 37C would lead to even higher levels in the lungs, which could lead to frequent cytokine storms, like those in 1918, instead of the less frequent level seen in Ukraine.

However, the rapid spread of H1N1 in Ukraine (see map), coupled with the high frequency of hemorrhagic pneumonia raise concerns that a small change is leading to a more virulent virus. Similarly, the rapid spread of the virus could also be affected by a small change in another gene, such as HA, which controls entry of the virus to cells and influences tissue tropism.

Mill Hill has acknowledged that they have at least 15 H1N1 positive samples from Ukraine, which would identify a Ukranian specific change. The delay in the announcement of sequence results raises concerns that such changes have been detected, and such changes are undergoing further analysis.

The number of cases in Ukraine continues to expand. The number of patients with H1N1 symptoms is now approaching 1 million. Cases have been increasing at almost 200,000 per day, so it is likely that tomorrow's report will have over 1 million cases. This rapid spread increases concern that the 15 sequences at Mill Hill contain one or more of these small changes, which has led to a delay in the announcement of sequence results.

More detail on the sequences at Mill Hill is overdue. The rapid spread of H1N1 in Ukraine demands rapid sequence results. Continued delay will only increase concerns.
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UPDATE 11/7/09 3:25pm est - Illinios having Pneumonic Plague Drill Today !
Lake in the Hills, Illinois is have a Pneumonic Plague drill today. This is not even close to the Ukraine Area, but I wanted to insert it, since the Easter Bloc countries had one in September and now it seems they are dealing with the Plague. What is causing governments to want to do drills on the Pneumonic Plague? Why not the Ebola virus, Swine Flu, etc? Why are they choosing the Plague? I just find things like that of great interest, especially since they use the same words Interpol did with their drill "biological terrorist attack".

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