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Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military?
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 684208
11/6/2009 2:01 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
Again I say,
THE APOLOGISTS ON THESE THREADS IS TRULY
TERRIFYING.
CHICKENS WHO SO WILLINGLY LET THE FOX IN THE HEN HOUSE.
THEY HAVE NO SENSE OF SELF PRESERVATION AT ALL.
THEY WANT THIS COUNTRY TO BE AN ISLAMIC COUNTRY?
OR PERHAPS THEY ARE MUZZIES THEMSELVES.
Let them go live in a Muslim Country....
That would change their minds in a hurry.
Many of the posters arguing in favor of the shooter, already do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 801158
No one is arguing in favor of the shooter you fucking shitstain!!! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 684208
11/6/2009 2:01 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
my, such language. My dear sir, i am not sure one can argue with the validity of how one feels. lol
I for one have no problems with such.
and when a little girl looks across the table and her father is not there because a muslim blew his face off, and some Satanic person such as myself says- he was fighting the enemy- they will pay -they will pay triple- revenge is one of the most noble aspects of man-
and sip swome wine and laugh at the enemies dead. While the cowardly such as yourself are not so bothersome , unless they stop gathering ammo or get in the way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 811761
You've been playing way too much Halo 3. What are you, 13? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17061
11/6/2009 2:02 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
I would agree with the majority of the poll if the war we are fighting is one against the Muslim religion.
If you want to ban Muslims from uniformed service then you have lost sight of what this country stands for.
It's a shame to see such religious prosecution.
Perhaps we should prohibit all Catholics from purchasing fertilizer materials.
Does that sound reasonable?
It should because that is the same logic that you are using. |
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Aquarius 7 
User ID: 736450
11/6/2009 2:03 PM
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A big +393 (at this point, lol)
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“ Put on the whole armor of God … for our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the wickedness of the evil spirits in the heavens. …” ~ from Ephesians 6:11-12 |
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Aquarius 7
User ID: 736450
11/6/2009 2:05 PM
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/... then you have lost sight of what this country stands for. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17061
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AC, imho, you are the one who has lost sight of what this country stands for.
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“ Put on the whole armor of God … for our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the wickedness of the evil spirits in the heavens. …” ~ from Ephesians 6:11-12 |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 667248
11/6/2009 2:06 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
ok, for whatever it's worth...
I (American woman) admit to dating a Lebanese (Christian) guy in my younger, more naive days... many years we were together.
He made it very clear to me that America would eventually be FUCKED.
From the "inside out".
That Muslims were moving here in droves, with an agenda, and are very crafty about it, very pissed off, and are willing to take life times to live it out. He said it will happen gradually... and will take us by surprise...
We are fucked because we give everyone the benefit of the doubt. We (America) focus, for politacally correct reasons, on moderate Muslims...
well, it seems it will be to our own demise...
I sure hope my ex was wrong... but it sure isn't playing out that way...
sure Americas government has played it's part in creating this monster of hatred toward it, but it's the citizens that will pay the price...
utterly tragic for all :( |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514339
11/6/2009 2:07 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
i dont think it says "one nation under allah" in the pledge does it? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 667248
11/6/2009 2:08 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
I would agree with the majority of the poll if the war we are fighting is one against the Muslim religion.
If you want to ban Muslims from uniformed service then you have lost sight of what this country stands for.
It's a shame to see such religious prosecution.
Perhaps we should prohibit all Catholics from purchasing fertilizer materials.
Does that sound reasonable?
It should because that is the same logic that you are using. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17061
YEAH, cuz it's such a common thing for Catholics to build bombs and use them... give me a fucking break |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493498
11/6/2009 2:08 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
When their main goal is to kill people of 'the book' and the US (for now at least) is a Christian nation, then a resounding NO would be the answer. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 784480
11/6/2009 2:09 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
FUCKING BIG FAT NEGATIVE!!! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17061
11/6/2009 2:12 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
I would agree with the majority of the poll if the war we are fighting is one against the Muslim religion.
If you want to ban Muslims from uniformed service then you have lost sight of what this country stands for.
It's a shame to see such religious prosecution.
Perhaps we should prohibit all Catholics from purchasing fertilizer materials.
Does that sound reasonable?
It should because that is the same logic that you are using.
YEAH, cuz it's such a common thing for Catholics to build bombs and use them... give me a fucking break Quoting: Anonymous Coward 667248
Ask Tim about that.
i dont think it says "one nation under allah" in the pledge does it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 514339
What is GOD's name?
/... then you have lost sight of what this country stands for. ...
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AC, imho, you are the one who has lost sight of what this country stands for.
. . Quoting: Aquarius 7
As your avatar stands there, in its 'crusader' garb, try and digest this little tidbit:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
Now why don't you tell me who has lost sight? |
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redshedevil
User ID: 641806
11/6/2009 2:13 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
I updated myself recently on Islamic attacks since 2001 - there have been more than 19,000 incidents and killings by them - so dont tell me that I'm brainwashed - sounds like the other way round
Hellboy look at history you think they are bad see what they did in the name of the church in history. Hatred and killon in the name of god whatever flavour you want is the most used way to create this name calling and killing actions.. yeah 19000 ok and the spanish inquisition killed.. how many.. ignorance is ignorance.. just because this is what you are seeing now doesn't mean your faith is innocent either.. History is just a turn of the page same events different names... The brainwashing is the way they can use you for the agenda. that has no religion.
How many baptists?? I had a friend who only screamed at his wife and had 6 rifles and shotguns but never picked one up. I guess you would rank him as a 'terrorist' much more evil than Hasan. Sounds to me like you might be a shill for UBL and his minions
I am no shill I am a realist who looks without biast. I am glad you friend didnt' kill his wife.. good to know.. the point was that if you want to link a faith to a incident then you are going down the wrong path. The point is that the media has got you to beleive it was his religion that caused this.. not the circumstances.. I was pointing out what would the spin be if he was white and baptist. I have nothing against white and baptist.. but the point is that they are looking to use this incident for their gain. And you are all falling for it.. hey look a rodriguez guy just killed 8 people in florida.. ohh now mexicans too...take them out of the army just in case. and gay men yeah them too and women and who the hell is left.. Hellboy this is about the bigger game.. not the details.
I am no shill just someone who sees them using this for their next move.. ohh raise the alert to orange.. the commies are coming. the commies are coming.. Are you Macarthur?
The behaviour of this group of people since the 1970's has been horrifying. I at one time was almost convinced (encouraged) to turn the other cheek until I worked with a group of Palestinians in DC. They were treated fairly, with respect by the upper layers and earned a good salary. But they wanted to pick up rifles and start killing when Jihad started. It was then that I realized that forgiveness and kindness were not words in their dictionary and when they get wild-eyed and star shouting Islamic slogans, its time to send them to meet their 72 virgins
Sorry but until they stop their massive killings et.al. I cannot stop feeling the way I do. Quoting: HellBoy
and I understand any one who is an extremist is wrong.. i can show you a 100 muslims that are good people. Most people are good it is the stupidity of a few that mar the rest. But don't tell me to make a muslim like a jew because they are muslim. Your country is becoming a hilter germany.
I dont' agree with anything extremist but the point is perspective.
That feeling of jihad was similar to the reason why you all just got on the planes to fight in iraq anyways.. they did the same thing to you.. your americans all of a sudden went to the kill muslims mentality over a us planned terrorist attack on 9/11.. they are using you just as much as they are using them. the agenda make money off your small minded and easily duped mentality. please tell me how much did you hate muslims before 2001???? you only have looked since... they have duped you into the plan hellboy. And now they can use your fear and hatred all of a sudden to their profit and puppeteering. Think of Vietnam.. How many people did "americans" kill there? should you have been there.. no but who made it happen.. American politics.. How many innocent american boys went to war for no reason to forever be scarred by what happened.. do you still hate the "kooks" too??? In the end war is not about about right or wrong it is about control. And they have control over you and over them as long as you too look at every incident by the faith card. That is all I am saying..
What he did was wrong.. but then again what that guy in Ohio killng ten woman and being a rapist is wrong... what that guy in florida today just did is wrong.. what that man In NC did killing himself and his family was wrong.. it is all wrong.. but dont' make it more wrong with beleiving the spiel for the agenda. Your words on this forum are read back to the muslims who then think they are justified in their Jihad.. it is all the plan. You are justifying their agenda just like they are justifying your fear. I am not saying what you are feeling is wrong just understand who is making you feel this way.
Last Edited by redshedevil on 11/6/2009 at 2:16 PM |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514339
11/6/2009 2:16 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
i dont think it says "one nation under allah" in the pledge does it?
What is GOD's name? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17061
when the pledge was written, the GOD they were referring to would have been Yahweh. Not Allah.
It didn't say "one nation under GODS" |
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Aquarius 7
User ID: 736450
11/6/2009 2:21 PM
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i dont think it says "one nation under allah" in the pledge does it?
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What is GOD's name? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17061
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God's Name is Yahweh.
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/... then you have lost sight of what this country stands for. ...
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AC, imho, you are the one who has lost sight of what this country stands for.
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As your avatar stands there, in its 'crusader' garb, try and digest this little tidbit:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
Now why don't you tell me who has lost sight? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17061
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AC, you need to go back and study American History.
When our nation was founded, by Christian men and women, there were many different Christian denominations in our new nation. It was proclaimed that government would not establish any one of those denominations to be the "official" Christian religion, but that every citizen could worship God and His Son according to his or her own beliefs.
Never in a million years did our forefathers ever think that our country would be taken over by infidel religions.
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“ Put on the whole armor of God … for our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the wickedness of the evil spirits in the heavens. …” ~ from Ephesians 6:11-12 |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17061
11/6/2009 2:24 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
i dont think it says "one nation under allah" in the pledge does it?
What is GOD's name?
when the pledge was written, the GOD they were referring to would have been Yahweh. Not Allah.
It didn't say "one nation under GODS" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 514339
It didn't say one nation under Yahweh either.
Perhaps you missed this part:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
Unless you believe in those words, you are not wanted, needed, or welcome in this country. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 798834
11/6/2009 2:24 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
Hmmm....
That has NOTHING to do with prohibiting them from the military.
Reading comprehension people!
No one is saying they can't worship as they please. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514339
11/6/2009 2:26 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
Unless you believe in those words, you are not wanted, needed, or welcome in this country. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17061
i dont live in the USA and never plan to. |
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whocares
User ID: 811837
11/6/2009 2:26 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
Google..
Fort Hood recovery of the chinese currency boxes. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17061
11/6/2009 2:27 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
Never in a million years did our forefathers ever think that our country would be taken over by infidel religions.
. . Quoting: Aquarius 7
Don't even, for one minute, entertain the notion that you have any idea what our forefathers thought.
Their words are clear:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
"Religion" encompasses more than Christianity. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514339
11/6/2009 2:27 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
Unless you believe in those words, you are not wanted, needed, or welcome in this country.
i dont live in the USA and never plan to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 514339
but if i did, who asked you if i was wanted, needed or welcome..
you don't know who i am or what your country 'needs' from me. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514339
11/6/2009 2:29 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
Never in a million years did our forefathers ever think that our country would be taken over by infidel religions.
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Don't even, for one minute, entertain the notion that you have any idea what our forefathers thought.
Their words are clear:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
"Religion" encompasses more than Christianity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17061
we are discussing whether devout muslims belong in the american military - we are not debating whether they are welcome to pratice their religion in their own way.... OUTSIDE of the military. go ahead.. you can form the Golden Temple of the Electric Fire Hydrant if you want.. that's not what is at issue here. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17061
11/6/2009 2:31 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
Hmmm....
That has NOTHING to do with prohibiting them from the military.
Reading comprehension people!
No one is saying they can't worship as they please. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 798834
Denying them their career choice, to fulfill their RIGHT to Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness has everything to do with it.
If serving their country makes them happy, then your entire arguments falls right on it's ass.
Take your un-American ideals, cloaked in the facade of American patriotism, and shove them firmly up your ass sideways. |
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nzreva
User ID: 798627
11/6/2009 2:31 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
So its alright to commit jihad? thats part of their reigion |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514339
11/6/2009 2:32 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
Hmmm....
That has NOTHING to do with prohibiting them from the military.
Reading comprehension people!
No one is saying they can't worship as they please.
Denying them their career choice, to fulfill their RIGHT to Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness has everything to do with it.
If serving their country makes them happy, then your entire arguments falls right on it's ass.
Take your un-American ideals, cloaked in the facade of American patriotism, and shove them firmly up your ass sideways. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17061
your name is Ahmed and you work at 7-11 don't you. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17061
11/6/2009 2:34 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
your name is Ahmed and you work at 7-11 don't you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 514339
No.
I can see how you came to that conclusion though, based on my grasp of Constitutional values. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17061
11/6/2009 2:36 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
So its alright to commit jihad? thats part of their reigion Quoting: nzreva
How would that be alright?
Are you that much of an idiot?
How could committing Jihad coincide with loyalty and service to their country, especially when you consider that committing such a thing would deny others their RIGHT to Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?
Are you really that fucking stupid, or are you grasping at straws at this point? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 811061
11/6/2009 2:47 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
^TrInItY^ LOOK AT THE PINS YOU ARE FALLING INTO THE TRAP WAKE UP!
DONT BE FOOLED AGAIN
NONE OF US SHOULD FALL FOR THEIR LIES!
YOU ARE ACTING EXACTLY AS THEY WANT YOU TOO
DONT FALL FOR IT! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 514339
11/6/2009 2:47 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
fucking bleeding heart liberals...
why don't you just take down the borders entirely. |
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nzreva
User ID: 798627
11/6/2009 2:50 PM | | Re: Should Devout Muslims Be Allowed In The United States Military? | Quote |
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...
I did not say this I was quoting someone else
Last Edited by nzreva on 11/6/2009 at 2:51 PM |
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ShadowDancer
User ID: 287857
11/6/2009 2:52 PM
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ok, for whatever it's worth...
I (American woman) admit to dating a Lebanese (Christian) guy in my younger, more naive days... many years we were together.
He made it very clear to me that America would eventually be FUCKED.
From the "inside out".
That Muslims were moving here in droves, with an agenda, and are very crafty about it, very pissed off, and are willing to take life times to live it out. He said it will happen gradually... and will take us by surprise...
We are fucked because we give everyone the benefit of the doubt. We (America) focus, for politacally correct reasons, on moderate Muslims...
well, it seems it will be to our own demise...
I sure hope my ex was wrong... but it sure isn't playing out that way...
sure Americas government has played it's part in creating this monster of hatred toward it, but it's the citizens that will pay the price...
utterly tragic for all :( Quoting: Anonymous Coward 667248
before we had the hostages and reagan-I had many friends from the middle east and I WOULD CONCUR with above poster-and seeing what decades of multiculturism has wrought
We have breached the cosmic change time and we best be en guard
Apathy takes many forms but all lead to RUINATION
time to be informed and not played like a flute from the latest Pied Piper of "peace" that results in massive death-FALSE peace
bearing peace, TROJAN horses of old reflected upon-Know the truth and discern all who seek your extinction WHOMEVER THEY PROVE TO BE REGARDLESS OF STRIPE...for that is of evil.
Circumambulate the MINEFIELD-many SNARES exist-
Last Edited by ShadowDancer on 11/6/2009 at 3:05 PM
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"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
~Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
There is little gain in attempting to change external conditions, you must first change the core of inner beliefs, naturally outer conditions will change accordingly.
BECOME it to achieve it.
Wisdom strengthened the wise more than ten mighty men which are in the city. Ecclesiastes 7:19
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