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Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!

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Bluebird Subscriber
User ID: 730536
11/6/2009 12:01 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

I have reasearched the AQ Khan network and posted about my research. I believe AQ Khan was not only selling completed nuclear devices, but electronic blueprints for advanced nuclear warhead design have been recoverd at different locations around the world.
Iran has had nuclear weapons for several years. Why the rush to attack now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 442346




I agree that they have had the plans from Khan as has every radical islamist group or country in the world.


The reason for the rush to do "something" which may or may not be an attack is that now Iran is actually utilizing the technnology Khan provided. Not only with their enriched uranium but now they have a delivery system. And they continue to enhance all daily.
Bluebird Subscriber
User ID: 730536
11/6/2009 12:06 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

This NY Times article is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg:
"Four years after his confession, international inspectors and Western officials confronted a new mystery over who may have received blueprints for a sophisticated and compact nuclear weapon found on his network's computers. Investigators know that the network sold uranium enrichment technology to Iran, North Korea and Libya, but are still pursuing leads that he may have done business with other countries.

Dr. Khan is an expert in centrifuges used to produce enriched uranium for bomb fuel, and much of the technology he sold involved enrichment. But it was only in the spring of 2008 that officials began to confirm that they had found the electronic design for a bomb itself among material seized from some of Dr. Khan's top lieutenants."

[link to topics.nytimes.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 442346



bump


Plus they have been waiting for their man Obama to be POTUS and Muslim in Chief. To be blunt.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471789
11/6/2009 12:33 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

Hmm...

Islamic fundie slaughters unarmed US troops, Israel intercepts a huge load of arms destined for Palestien from Iran, Iran tests a nuclear device.

MSM is ramping up the reasons for an attack.
 Quoting: DanfromtheHills


I agree, the timing suggests a connection.
sd1975
User ID: 786565
11/6/2009 1:04 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

Yep...they want nuclear technology for peaceful purposes...lets talk some more...Obama keep them talking and we'll be seeing Iranian nukes on our shores before you know it. Part of me thinks that the Obama administration is just naive the other part of me thinks this is all done on purpose.
Douglass Fir Subscriber
evolutionary malcontent
User ID: 534125
11/6/2009 1:49 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

feels like half a minite to midnight


gettin' close now
is this the best the human race can do?

do we really need leaders and followers ?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 607707
11/6/2009 2:12 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

and here we proudly present

the united zioidiots warmongering thread again
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 811710

You are such a sad individual - Iran's leader openly admits he's going to destroy Israel & that they have no right to exist. Who's the war monger, asshole? I'm so sick of you backwards idiots. Hop on your camel & ride off to a cave, it's where you belong.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471789
11/6/2009 2:26 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

Ok, I pretty much always figured that the headline "Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead" would be the last headline we read before we saw the headline "Israel attacks Iran".
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 811837
11/6/2009 2:36 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

Does this mean if Iran gets 19 more of those bombs they will be on par with Israel who have 20 already.
Thats the way to go .. level playing field .. duke it out.
Atheist
User ID: 805039
11/6/2009 2:36 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

Iranian scientists may have tested high-explosive components of the design.
 Quoting: Frostradamus


That means nothing, there are bluprints on wikipedia, the design of the device is simple, its enriching the material which is the hard part, it means iran has tested an implosion device, some engineers could probably rig that up in the shed/workshop.

There was a guy who built a breeder nuclear reactor in his garage at 17 years old.

Obviously thats an extreme example but anybody with some college level nuclear chemistry/physics knowledge could atempt that, the difference is most are not stupid enough, not to mention the fact its illegal.

Last Edited by Atheist on 11/6/2009 at 2:39 PM
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Atheist
User ID: 805039
11/6/2009 2:49 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

Ok, I pretty much always figured that the headline "Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead" would be the last headline we read before we saw the headline "Israel attacks Iran".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 471789


Dont worry, even if iran has tested the design they are essentially building a car chasis without actually even having an engine in the first place.

They have basically built a slightly advanced implosion chamber inside a box.

In 2009, Its hardly supprising at all, i would actually imagine at least most of the goverments of the world would be able to atempt this part of a nuclear weapon design, many science universities would be able to do this and some engineers would be able to do this in workshops/sheds.

The worrying part is how far or to what level are Iran enriching the uranium, and are they building breeder reactors to produce fissiable isotopes.

Yeah its slightly worrying iran may have ambitions to build nuclear weapons that are small enough to fit on a cruise missle, instead of them being the size of a small truck.

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New Age Messiah
User ID: 782948
11/6/2009 2:50 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

Iranians linked to banned drone videos in Darfur: U.N.

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Two Iranian businessmen working at a Dubai-based firm were linked to video surveillance devices sold to Sudan and used in unmanned drones in Darfur in violation of a U.N. arms embargo, a U.N. report said.

[link to www.reuters.com]

Not a big deal, just curious how the anti-Iran propaganda is picking up steam...

It's all true, though, so let 'er rip. sun
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Maguyver
User ID: 808852
11/6/2009 2:56 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

<SNIP>
As anyone who has ever been around a nuclear enrichment facility that deals with Uranium enrichment will know, it takes MASSIVE amounts of electric power to power all those thousands of centrifuges needed to produce enriched uranium ... thus by looking at where electric lines go and measuring how much electricity is moving along them one can easily determine if there is an enrichment process being done (one reason why Chenney and Bush were lying out their asses about Iraq trying to make Uranium enriched weapons ... there was no electricity disappearing from the Iraqi electric grid and NO electric lines going somewhere that would indicate that was where THOUSANDS of power hungry centrifuges were at work).

<SNIP>
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 713601


The flaw in this part of your argument and spytech is you cannot always follow the power lines. Power is easily produced on site by old school diesel or fuel oil generators. These are easily hidden. I know of a data center with 38,000kW of diesel backup power and you'd never know if someone didn't take you inside. Nice and tidy!

Just sayin'...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 508769
11/6/2009 3:01 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

Sometimes I wonder if Iran is just fucking with Israel. Hmmmm... wonder how far we can push before they push back, right? By doing this stuff, it seems like they are just begging to be struck by Israel. Maybe thats what they really want. Especially if Iran things they can win, but isn't stupid enough to throw the first punch.
obama's TelePrompter
User ID: 791488
11/6/2009 3:22 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

I'm sure it was only for peaceful purposes... ie to help stem their reliance upon fossil fuels to power their electrical power stations.

Perhaps in their over zealousness to go "green", the West is reading too much into their "bomb making". I say wait for them to nuke someone before becoming all unglued.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 254782
11/6/2009 3:31 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

Principles of Islam that will justify lying in situations where they sense the need to do so. Among these are:

* War is deception.
* The necessities justify the forbidden.
* If faced by two evils, choose the lesser of the two.

These principles are derived from passages found in the Quran and the Hadith. How the rest of the world can not see through Iran's lies boggles me...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 569020
11/6/2009 3:40 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

Once Iran has nukes to spare, all hell will break loose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 636686


Yeah, of course just like it did when N.Korea got nukes...

Nukes = immunity

And Israel will hate that, but Iran has the American President on it's side...

Weird World
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 784940
11/6/2009 3:59 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

Iran has had nuclear weapons for several years. Why the rush to attack now?


Because Iran is now producing fuel at a rate which can support both offensive use, and sale to terrorist groups.

Iran is also developing longer range missiles which can threaten civilizations beyond just Israel.

You don't really believe Iran has a large stockpile of nukes, do you? Do you believe they would send Bin Laden and his cronies after the infidels with Iran's one-and-only warhead, do you?

Once Iran has nukes to spare, all hell will break loose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 636686


Then you can kiss my ball.

you dogs are just said so in Iraq and now try to next.

let me say one things no men are as fool as you think.

Now Iran mean after Syria, Lebanon, Pakistan,.......and so on.

Where American diplomats live there are terrorist attacked.
Like now in pakistan, no terrorist attack in syria because no American diplomat to plant bomb.

Truly is Iran is waiting and provoking stupid dogs like Israel and american to attack his country. that israel knew and run and shout to Iran i will attack you.

Actually Israel is already fucked and doomed. AQ Khan gave nuclear missiles to Iran already.

if you don't believe me ask you gov to attack Iran and even your national Icon will be wipe out from face of earth.

That will be last and final war of humans.


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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 806857
11/6/2009 4:43 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

propoganda

More propaganda from the U.K.
Anytime I see a thread title like this I already know the article is from the guardian or reuters etc.


IT IS ALWAYS COMING FROM BRITAIN.


The U.K. has been pushing for an attack on Iran to keep the region is chaos and to hopefully get the U.S. into a full scale war.

The British Empire is NOT Americas ally folks. They want us to drain ourselves in more wars.

I can't believe you idiots constantly fall for this psywar bullshit. Please leave the U.S. and go to Britain and be a slave of the queen. You idiots are going to get the U.S. destroyed based on endless British propaganda.

That is how stupid you really are.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 309230
11/6/2009 4:56 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

Rock on Iran!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 773473


I so agree!
Make the biggest baddest bomb that can kill more people thank the usa and israel
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 569020
11/6/2009 5:05 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

propoganda

More propaganda from the U.K.
Anytime I see a thread title like this I already know the article is from the guardian or reuters etc.


IT IS ALWAYS COMING FROM BRITAIN.


The U.K. has been pushing for an attack on Iran to keep the region is chaos and to hopefully get the U.S. into a full scale war.

The British Empire is NOT Americas ally folks. They want us to drain ourselves in more wars.

I can't believe you idiots constantly fall for this psywar bullshit. Please leave the U.S. and go to Britain and be a slave of the queen. You idiots are going to get the U.S. destroyed based on endless British propaganda.

That is how stupid you really are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 806857


Didn't you know the UK rule The World, look down your precious Presidents family trees, they all lead to the same place...US!

Mwhaha!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 501224
11/6/2009 6:12 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

look at wikipedia [link to en.wikipedia.org]

iran already have some experimental nuclear reactor. and the future russian reactor at busher is well know for generating a lot of plutonium.
Atheist
User ID: 805039
11/6/2009 7:04 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

look at wikipedia [link to en.wikipedia.org]

iran already have some experimental nuclear reactor. and the future russian reactor at busher is well know for generating a lot of plutonium.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 501224


Some fissable isotopes have legitimate other uses.

The question is are Iran trying to mass large amounts of very pure fissiable isotopes?

Weapons grade is not an easy task.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 812258
11/6/2009 7:44 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

Netanyahu leaves Sunday for Washington According to Haaretz. I don't imagine anything would happen until he returns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 453926

what is in washington for ..more taxpayers money?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 812258
11/6/2009 7:46 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

Netanyahu leaves Sunday for Washington According to Haaretz. I don't imagine anything would happen until he returns.

what is in washington for ..more taxpayers money?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 812258

he
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 272605
11/6/2009 7:59 PM
Re: Report: Iran Tested Advanced Nuclear Warhead...PIN!Quote

Iran has had nuclear weapons for several years. Why the rush to attack now?


Because Iran is now producing fuel at a rate which can support both offensive use, and sale to terrorist groups.

Iran is also developing longer range missiles which can threaten civilizations beyond just Israel.

You don't really believe Iran has a large stockpile of nukes, do you? Do you believe they would send Bin Laden and his cronies after the infidels with Iran's one-and-only warhead, do you?

Once Iran has nukes to spare, all hell will break loose.


Then you can kiss my ball.

you dogs are just said so in Iraq and now try to next.

let me say one things no men are as fool as you think.

Now Iran mean after Syria, Lebanon, Pakistan,.......and so on.

Where American diplomats live there are terrorist attacked.
Like now in pakistan, no terrorist attack in syria because no American diplomat to plant bomb.

Truly is Iran is waiting and provoking stupid dogs like Israel and american to attack his country. that israel knew and run and shout to Iran i will attack you.

Actually Israel is already fucked and doomed. AQ Khan gave nuclear missiles to Iran already.

if you don't believe me ask you gov to attack Iran and even your national Icon will be wipe out from face of earth.

That will be last and final war of humans.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 784940



dude, where are you from?
Kiss your "ball"?! ...no thanks.
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