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Let me make one thing perfectly plain folks. Even if you are only a low level Mason or Shriner and you die in your sins, you will go to hell.

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if "heaven" is filled with as many hypocritcal religious shills as you then ill welcome your "hell" with open arms
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if "heaven" is filled with as many hypocritcal religious shills as you then ill welcome your "hell" with open arms
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enjoy
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What happened to OP?
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What happened to OP?
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Still alive?
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Learn. Be prepared.
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I love threads such as this one. Thanks for taking the time OP!
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OK then, I have a short question. Why does any of this matter? I do not to my knowledge know any masons only seeing them at times in parades. I do not fear them or feel the need to challenge their beliefs in any way. So far in my life it seems that they have left me alone as I intend to leave them alone. So what if any threat do they pose to simple folk such as myself?


They control the media and entertainment industry so unless you are a spiritual person wo is removed from these things the illuminati have a major influence over your life. They push their agenda through these formats. You are also restricted to the rules od the Architect'a game becase a hbeings ofa highr density, aka Grays, are acting as our conscious observers.
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Interestin op, are the grays the only ones acting as conscious observers, and could a spiritual person, by pass the grays on the conscious world. Also could you please define you diffinition of a gray, thanks.
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Sikth, i'd like to learn more about the pineal gland and ways to access/open it. Any advice or links which may be helpful?
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Questions are good, but you must ask the right ones. Do not let others lead you astray with words. Words are only relevant part of the time... dangerous because they are open to interpretation over and over again. How do we know the sky is blue? How do we truly know what blue is? You observed it. You were told what it was. That's truth right? Hmm... If I was to say "I was talking to the neighbor drinking a beer." what can you possibly conclude from just that statement without asking questions. "I was talking to the neighbor drinking a beer." This is something that you have not observed directly, but may only come to understand through interpretation. If I say, "I was talking to the neighbor drinking a beer." the only thing you could be absolutely certain of is that I was talking to the neighbor and you couldn't really even be sure of that unless you observed it. Unless of course, you believe everything that you read or hear. Think about it. Was I drinking the beer or was the neighbor? Just some food for thought whilst you all kick around conspiracy theories.

Game or no game... it's 50/50. I'd say those are better odds at some hindsight bias than the best psychics on the planet. Just sayin'.
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Questions are good, but you must ask the right ones. Do not let others lead you astray with words. Words are only relevant part of the time... dangerous because they are open to interpretation over and over again. How do we know the sky is blue? How do we truly know what blue is? You observed it. You were told what it was. That's truth right? Hmm... If I was to say "I was talking to the neighbor drinking a beer." what can you possibly conclude from just that statement without asking questions. "I was talking to the neighbor drinking a beer." This is something that you have not observed directly, but may only come to understand through interpretation. If I say, "I was talking to the neighbor drinking a beer." the only thing you could be absolutely certain of is that I was talking to the neighbor and you couldn't really even be sure of that unless you observed it. Unless of course, you believe everything that you read or hear. Think about it. Was I drinking the beer or was the neighbor? Just some food for thought whilst you all kick around conspiracy theories.

Game or no game... it's 50/50. I'd say those are better odds at some hindsight bias than the best psychics on the planet. Just sayin'.
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and how do we truly know a thought as our own? I mean so many are so suggestible.... subliminal supplimation.... easy to grow up with an attitude that others want you to believe and/or display. How do you truly take back your own mind? You first have to acknowledge how much it was compromised.... that it was manipulated.... to what purpose or what end? But watching the people around your realize they don't control you as well as they used to.... Priceless!
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There was a time when I used to think that masons were Mr.Smiths. Most of the knowledge they acquire are acquired out of the lodge. You can find masonic knowledge out of the lodge. Just buy books like Uriels machine. They arent the only society with secrets..what about the asian ones and KoC.
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There was a time when I used to think that masons were Mr.Smiths. Most of the knowledge they acquire are acquired out of the lodge. You can find masonic knowledge out of the lodge. Just buy books like Uriels machine. They arent the only society with secrets..what about the asian ones and KoC.
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I thought the Knights of Columbus WERE/ARE Masons. ????
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The two pillars lead to mans future - take a peek! 1 minute mark. Scrunched up former humans ....

or here at 2min 36 sec



There are many types of greys...many, many, many. Why are you focusing on greys when they report to preying mantises.

Most greys have been delt with.....there are many other species of life and anti-life. Archons, for one.

There is good and there is evil. To believe otherwise to me means that you have never met or felt the presence of the demonic, or a reptile, or a mantis.
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what crap

the freemasons is all that is standing between being free and being enslaved by the nwo or whatever you wish to call them
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Questions are good, but you must ask the right ones. Do not let others lead you astray with words. Words are only relevant part of the time... dangerous because they are open to interpretation over and over again. How do we know the sky is blue? How do we truly know what blue is? You observed it. You were told what it was. That's truth right? Hmm... If I was to say "I was talking to the neighbor drinking a beer." what can you possibly conclude from just that statement without asking questions. "I was talking to the neighbor drinking a beer." This is something that you have not observed directly, but may only come to understand through interpretation. If I say, "I was talking to the neighbor drinking a beer." the only thing you could be absolutely certain of is that I was talking to the neighbor and you couldn't really even be sure of that unless you observed it. Unless of course, you believe everything that you read or hear. Think about it. Was I drinking the beer or was the neighbor? Just some food for thought whilst you all kick around conspiracy theories.

Game or no game... it's 50/50. I'd say those are better odds at some hindsight bias than the best psychics on the planet. Just sayin'.


and how do we truly know a thought as our own? I mean so many are so suggestible.... subliminal supplimation.... easy to grow up with an attitude that others want you to believe and/or display. How do you truly take back your own mind? You first have to acknowledge how much it was compromised.... that it was manipulated.... to what purpose or what end? But watching the people around your realize they don't control you as well as they used to.... Priceless!
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Your argument begs the question. The same could be said about you. Circular logic never gets anywhere. I could just as easily say that YOU are the one being manipulated and YOUR thoughts are not your own.
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Oh, and let's not forget Disney's early showing of what the WATCHERS look like. They are insectoid - preying mantises...usually showing up in black hooded robes. In this movie they altered the appearance slightly, but the arms and many other features are still there.





More than any other time, the chance for ones own freedom of consciousness is now. Many of us have fought for you, don't just sit there, do something.
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Freemasons have a big FLAW in their theories of Lucifer.
They seem to have missed the fact that Lucifer is the original name of the planet Venus, and has no relation to Satan. Lucifer is not a being or entity, it's a ball of gas on a planet of no importance, that we are only told exists.

Read and learn:
[link to www.lds-mormon.com]

Epic for a mormon site to get it right!
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Look... Mostly all the theories about masons are wrong, but of course not all masons are good people either, like everywhere in society there's both good and bad people. Bad people can act like they're good, and that's why they get in....
Mozart was a mason, Bach was a mason, the inventor of global timezones was a mason, and so on and so forth. To say all these people were bad is pretty much preposterous.

But considering that even if most masons are "good" people, sometimes "bad" people also become masons. We have to know what sort of "morality," if any, the organization of masonry generally operates on - apart from it's members, which may be as diverse as humanity in general.

From a link to "masons in india" that was posted earlier in this thread, I found the following:

X-TH WORLD CONFERENCE OF MASONIC GRAND LODGES HELD AT LIBREVILLE GABON, NOVEMBER 4th ,5th and 6th , 2009.

Freemasonry is one of Worlds largest and oldest Fraternal Organizations, based on the principles of the Fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of Man, which is committed to the universal motto of “Brotherly Love, Relief and Truth”. However very little is known about Freemasonry to the outside world, and what little is known, is also based on misinformation and misunderstanding. Therefore, we the Freemasons of the World having considered the matter carefully at the IXth World Conference of Masonic Grand Lodges held at Washington in May 2008 and in this Xth World Conference held at Libreville, Gabon, on November 4th , 5th and 6th 2009, have unanimously resolved to declare as follows:

DECLARATION
of
“WHAT FREEMASONRY IS AND WHAT FREEMASONS STAND FOR”

* We as Freemasons affirm that
o Freemasonry teaches a common set of core values, which can form the basis of global ethics, for adoption by individuals, as a way of life, to enable good men to become better members of society and thereby make the world a better place to live.
o The Universal Motto of Freemasonry – “Brotherly Love, Relief and Truth” and the Masonic principle of the ‘Fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of Man’, are best suited for adoption by all men, irrespective of the communities, races, nationalities and religions to which they may belong.
* We declare that we believe in the golden rule of “Doing unto others, as in similar circumstances, we would wish that they should do unto us”.
* We as Freemasons commit ourselves to
o A culture of non-violence, respect, justice and peace and that we shall not oppress, injure torture or kill other human beings, or knowingly suffer others to do so, if in our power to prevent it and conscientiously, forsake violence, as a means of settling differences.
o A just social and economic order, in which everyone has equal chance as an individual, to reach his full potential as a human being.
o A global ethics of understanding one another and to adopt Freemasonry as a socially beneficial, peace fostering and mature and friendly way of life.
* We as Freemasons collectively affirm that
o The global situation today needs a vision for people living together in peace, love and harmony
o By a global ethic we do not mean a world order by any single group, but confirm that the principles and tenets of Freemasonry, stretch across the world, overcoming, not only geographical barriers, but also the artificial barriers of race, caste, colour, creed and religion
o Global ethic is a fundamental consequence of binding values, irrevocable standards and personal attitudes and behaviour, as exemplified by the universal principles and tenets of Freemasonry.
* We also assert that
o Every form of egoism, in the form of class, creed, religion, racism or narrow parochialism should be rejected, and that human beings should be united by strong ties of fellowship and universal brotherhood.
* We also believe that
o What a global society needs is an inclusive philosophy similar to that propagated by Freemasonry, which cuts across the artificial barriers that divide human beings and prevents them from becoming a global family.


- - - - - - - - -

Bottom line: my judgment after quite a few years as an "anti-mason" based on years of reading "anti" propaganda and believing quite a lot of conspiracy theories (i still believe there's a form of evil in the world) is that the masons as an organization really is a force of good and works to better both their members and even, if they can, humanity as a whole. Masonry stands for tolerance (in both a racial and religious sense), enlightenment, God and unity, freedom and positive human development.

Masonry has its roots in the old MYSTERY SCHOOLS which even back in the days had a strong sense of morality and altruism, and even long before the masons, some of their members spent their whole lifetime working for ALL of humanity not just themselves. The secrecy masons employ (or used to employ - most secrets has gotten out nowadays) ALSO hails from the days of the mystery schools, which kept their initiations and rituals secret for a couple of different - but perfectly VALID reasons. One of them simply being that new candidates should not know what is coming, or the experience might be ruined.

So, again - BOTTOM LINE - masonry isn't bad or evil, it's good. And this is coming from both a former, and in many ways even current, conspiracy theorist! BUT not so gullible anymore as to believe everything he hears.

PS, some might be anti-masonic due to its association with things like "Solomons temple" and - indirectly - an association with Israel. Well, in masonry Solomons temple is also important as a metaphor for man's internal temple - the temple he is supposed to build of himself, his body AND his life, and when it comes to Israel... Well, opinions may vary, but I personally don't see masonry as intimately connected with Zionism - that is, if Zionists oppress the Palestinians, it's a moral duty for a true mason to also feel for them and work for their rights. As in masonry, all men (and even all people) are supposed to be, ultimately, equal.

Hope y'all get it now! I realize it may be hard to believe (what with all the propaganda to the contrary), but masons are not evil. Not ultimately.

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Damn it happens too often that threads go quiet after i post. What's up with that?
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Questions are good, but you must ask the right ones. Do not let others lead you astray with words. Words are only relevant part of the time... dangerous because they are open to interpretation over and over again. How do we know the sky is blue? How do we truly know what blue is? You observed it. You were told what it was. That's truth right? Hmm... If I was to say "I was talking to the neighbor drinking a beer." what can you possibly conclude from just that statement without asking questions. "I was talking to the neighbor drinking a beer." This is something that you have not observed directly, but may only come to understand through interpretation. If I say, "I was talking to the neighbor drinking a beer." the only thing you could be absolutely certain of is that I was talking to the neighbor and you couldn't really even be sure of that unless you observed it. Unless of course, you believe everything that you read or hear. Think about it. Was I drinking the beer or was the neighbor? Just some food for thought whilst you all kick around conspiracy theories.

Game or no game... it's 50/50. I'd say those are better odds at some hindsight bias than the best psychics on the planet. Just sayin'.


and how do we truly know a thought as our own? I mean so many are so suggestible.... subliminal supplimation.... easy to grow up with an attitude that others want you to believe and/or display. How do you truly take back your own mind? You first have to acknowledge how much it was compromised.... that it was manipulated.... to what purpose or what end? But watching the people around your realize they don't control you as well as they used to.... Priceless!


Your argument begs the question. The same could be said about you. Circular logic never gets anywhere. I could just as easily say that YOU are the one being manipulated and YOUR thoughts are not your own.
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That is exactly the point. A question begging to be asked en mass.
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Moving on.

The Illuminati, or the Illuminated Ones, are the servants of the Sun/Ma´at/Ra/Horus/Lucifer, the bringer of light. The Illuminati are the highest ranking Freemasons that exist within this realm of the system. They are the creators and founders of religion, politics, trade, and materialism. Engineers to reality. Faithful to the Architect they carry forth his agenda - the harvesting of energy.

They are trying to push through the New World Order before the cosmic shift in consciousness. As silly as it sounds, think of it this way. You are a farmer and you own a wholesale egg company. One day the farmer notices that one of his chickens flew away - it evolved, grew bigger and stronger wings. The farmer must now gather all his chickens in one pen to observe them. He then clips the wings of the chickens to make sure they cannot fly away, because if all the chickens flew away he wouldn´t have a company any more. :)
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The above is totally true. TPTW are wetting themselves because not only will they lose all their power, they will be "here" alone.
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Moving on.

The Illuminati, or the Illuminated Ones, are the servants of the Sun/Ma´at/Ra/Horus/Lucifer, the bringer of light. The Illuminati are the highest ranking Freemasons that exist within this realm of the system. They are the creators and founders of religion, politics, trade, and materialism. Engineers to reality. Faithful to the Architect they carry forth his agenda - the harvesting of energy.

They are trying to push through the New World Order before the cosmic shift in consciousness. As silly as it sounds, think of it this way. You are a farmer and you own a wholesale egg company. One day the farmer notices that one of his chickens flew away - it evolved, grew bigger and stronger wings. The farmer must now gather all his chickens in one pen to observe them. He then clips the wings of the chickens to make sure they cannot fly away, because if all the chickens flew away he wouldn´t have a company any more. :)

The above is totally true. TPTW are wetting themselves because not only will they lose all their power, they will be "here" alone.
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They need to reduce population to a manageable amount , 500,000,000
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Moving on.

The Illuminati, or the Illuminated Ones, are the servants of the Sun/Ma´at/Ra/Horus/Lucifer, the bringer of light. The Illuminati are the highest ranking Freemasons that exist within this realm of the system. They are the creators and founders of religion, politics, trade, and materialism. Engineers to reality. Faithful to the Architect they carry forth his agenda - the harvesting of energy.

They are trying to push through the New World Order before the cosmic shift in consciousness. As silly as it sounds, think of it this way. You are a farmer and you own a wholesale egg company. One day the farmer notices that one of his chickens flew away - it evolved, grew bigger and stronger wings. The farmer must now gather all his chickens in one pen to observe them. He then clips the wings of the chickens to make sure they cannot fly away, because if all the chickens flew away he wouldn´t have a company any more. :)

The above is totally true. TPTW are wetting themselves because not only will they lose all their power, they will be "here" alone.


They need to reduce population to a manageable amount , 500,000,000
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There is a global flood on the way. It is systematic, the re-roll if the dice, if you will. People are not being alerted, they will blame it on the evil doings of others (polution) therefore they can justify the death toll by saying it was nature cleansing itself. People are being distracted by man made disasters and diseases so they cannot focus on the imminent future. Be prepared.
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This is as real as it gets folks. PREPARE.
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This is as real as it gets folks. PREPARE.
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good going, this was very good
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Hey guys,

Someone in my family is a Mason - therefor growing up I haven´t taken any Masonic conspiracies seriously. Now that I am older and look back at all the times I spent with this family member I am actually convinced that these people are up to no good.

My uncle has been a Freemason for many, many years now. He has been one since I can remember. His wealthy friend nominated him for initiation. My entire family noticed a major change in personality once he joined. He completely removed himself from his family and became very secretive. I do, however, remember times from my childhood, visiting his home. His house was filled with Masonic art, and being a curious soul I would always ask him about them - his answer was always something along the lines of "something you will never understand", or "you will never know". When I was a little older I visited his place again and, again, I was interested in the Masonic art he had in his home. I asked again what kind of art work it was, he´d grin and say "if I told you, I would have to kill you." I always took it as a joke, but that is something strange to say to an eight your old child.

My uncle is not a good man. At that young age I knew nothing of Freemasonry, as a matter of fact I had no idea what THAT was until I turned 18. My uncle has struck my grandmother sending her to hospital, he said that "that alcoholic whore was a disgrace to his name and didn´t want to be in anyway associated with her", he also publicly humiliated my mother at a dinner party by using similar words and throwing wine all over her face.

I still, occasionally, bump into him. Not much is said, though. He mainly just smirks, nods his head, and then walks away. I get more warmth from a stranger.

Now, I am nearing thirty and certainly have had a lot of time to think about my past. I have done a lot of research on Freemasonry and spoken to my grandfather on the topic. What he had to say was very interesting. I have a lot to tell you about the Mason world and would be glad to share it.

So, if any of you have ANY questions feel free to ask me, and if there are any real Mason´s here who try to defend their secret, I will do my best to prove them wrong.

Thank you.
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Yes there is the possibility that he offered himself to entities not of our world, maybe that's why his personality changed, he ould be a golum, and the more high ranking masons could be golums, we all hear from shamans that it is a very dangerous thing to invite entities or spirits into us. Just a suggestion and not trying to be ludicrous but be open minded, these guys will do whatever it takes for power and they have been know to mess around with the dark arts.
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Bottom line: my judgment after quite a few years as an "anti-mason" based on years of reading "anti" propaganda and believing quite a lot of conspiracy theories (i still believe there's a form of evil in the world) is that the masons as an organization really is a force of good and works to better both their members and even, if they can, humanity as a whole. Masonry stands for tolerance (in both a racial and religious sense), enlightenment, God and unity, freedom and positive human development.

Masonry has its roots in the old MYSTERY SCHOOLS which even back in the days had a strong sense of morality and altruism, and even long before the masons, some of their members spent their whole lifetime working for ALL of humanity not just themselves. The secrecy masons employ (or used to employ - most secrets has gotten out nowadays) ALSO hails from the days of the mystery schools, which kept their initiations and rituals secret for a couple of different - but perfectly VALID reasons. One of them simply being that new candidates should not know what is coming, or the experience might be ruined.

So, again - BOTTOM LINE - masonry isn't bad or evil, it's good. And this is coming from both a former, and in many ways even current, conspiracy theorist! BUT not so gullible anymore as to believe everything he hears.

PS, some might be anti-masonic due to its association with things like "Solomons temple" and - indirectly - an association with Israel. Well, in masonry Solomons temple is also important as a metaphor for man's internal temple - the temple he is supposed to build of himself, his body AND his life, and when it comes to Israel... Well, opinions may vary, but I personally don't see masonry as intimately connected with Zionism - that is, if Zionists oppress the Palestinians, it's a moral duty for a true mason to also feel for them and work for their rights. As in masonry, all men (and even all people) are supposed to be, ultimately, equal.

Hope y'all get it now! I realize it may be hard to believe (what with all the propaganda to the contrary), but masons are not evil. Not ultimately.
 Quoting: DangerDog


Very good. I have come to the same conclusion.
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Damn it happens too often that threads go quiet after i post. What's up with that?
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Maybe you make too much sense. Danger Dog's post about Freemasonry was right on the money. I appreciate the fact that he has a mature approach to the subjects of conspiracy theories and secret societies. It's that kind of attitude that helps one separate the wheat from the chaff.

He made a good point about Zionism. Freemasonry does not condone violations of human rights, even if the victims are Arabs and/or Muslims. OTOH, the group rejects anti-Jewish propaganda. They see all ethnic groups as brothers who should treat each other as such.
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great thread best i've read on here. thanks op and everyone who put their 2 cents in.

has anyone got any maps online showing the earth in the event of wide spread flooding or tsunami's. been looking for a while and cany find any useful ones.

have a few ideas where to head but just to be sure.

again thanks to all.
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its the tenth, the two pillars.

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