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Oh, I get it now, your problem is that you think its a game. Don't be fooled.

Let me give you a hint. If you do not take God seriously, will God take you seriously?

Another thought, all is just permitted (allowing the reality of God [and for real]).

The rainbow is permitted to show itself; the duality.

But, heck, it could have been worse.

Just remember, if the child is playing, or thinks its a game, it is, for that child...
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What God are you speaking off. There is no one God - we are all God. The illusion is the perception of singularity - the battle is the realisation that singularity is the illusion. I take the universe seriously - not the creators of this game.
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for some of us our next incarnation will be in the 5th density as very powerful and gentle love beings. masons will not be making this switch. the more they try to grasp the power of the creation the farther they fall from it. the more you grasp water the worse it gets, the more you let the water envelop you the easier it gets.

in the 5th density we are relatively close to becoming pure light beings.
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for some of us our next incarnation will be in the 5th density as very powerful and gentle love beings. masons will not be making this switch. the more they try to grasp the power of the creation the farther they fall from it. the more you grasp water the worse it gets, the more you let the water envelop you the easier it gets.

in the 5th density we are relatively close to becoming pure light beings.
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You are correct. The Freemasons have chosen to live as servants to the Architect. They have sold their souls (energy) for spoils and riches of the Game. They act as moderators.
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Brothers mind your commands. Only material information should be disclosed.
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The Freemasons have chosen to live as servants to the Architect. They have sold their souls (energy) for spoils and riches of the Game. They act as moderators.
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Architect =/= Creator.
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What you forgot to mention is that there's no way back once the soul was sold.
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I will answer more questions in approx. an hour.
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:maxiea: :sarahspic?:

Sarah's picture. A picture that was supposedly made by an 8 year old masonic murder victim.
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? Who's the hot chick in the boots?
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:maxiea: :sarahspic?:

Sarah's picture. A picture that was supposedly made by an 8 year old masonic murder victim.
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Then why did you post a gigantic asian?
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does this game have a predetermined end date?
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Thank you Sikth for a most interesting thread.

Just today my husband and I spoke about the inner workings of Masonry. Read alot of Jordan Maxwell and others who are clearly into the symbolism that is covert and dark. Maybe mostly dark. Because all symbolism is useful; I think its how it is used and perceived. As example, the Swastika was a moniker of the Nazi army and their beliefs. Yet, if you turned the swastika a certain way, it was used in Atlantis to generate power using crystals.

Here is a question. You have touched upon the 33rd degree. When a person is ready to elevate from 32 to 33rd something profound happens doesn't it? We read something of this nature: to reach 33rd one has to be influential and powerful to be able to suppress some faction in the world.

Why do I think Nancy Pelosi is being honored for her nasty health bill? She may be ascending in stature after such a suppressing event passing the bill in the House of Representatives. ( not over yet). Do you have any thoughts about this?

Also, were our founding fathers, Washington etc. 33rd degree Masons?

How long does it take for a person to go up the ranks to reach 33rd?

Trust me, we are on your wave. We abhore the ideology of this and fight against its residue our life long.
Thanx so much.

4454
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Ignorance endangers.
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They are pervy old men in funny hats with more money than common sense.

They attempt to control using methods which are easily overcome through the Holy Spirit in Jesus Christ.

Tools and fools give them power they do not possess.
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OP I have watched your youtube 33rd analogy ala Truman Show, and also ala The Matrix. I certainly see the similarity in the two scenes, but I am wondering how this relates to what a 33rd degree Mason experiences?

Does the 33rd brother Mason experience a faceslap when reaching that level? What is the revelation that is given, to cause such a known and favored 32degree brother Mason to be so shocked as we see Neo and Truman being?

The revelation that they experience at moving from 32 to 33 degrees, is it in any way connected to their past? Because in both of these cases, we see a father figure, who basically "owns" the son, so to speak. It's like Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker and where Vader gets to hit Luke with the big one, "I'm your father!!" and we see Luke's reaction is precious, according to the above interpretation.

Am I right in assuming that Luke has a 33rd degree experience when Vader drops that truth bomb on him?
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The Hells Angels and Masons are both together in the things they do.FROM ONE WHO KNOWS.
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This picture is a little strange.

Let´s begin with the religious symbols. Notice how they are at the very bottom of the painting? It means that all religions are basically nullified by their secret. It doesn´t matter which God you worship, or how your worship them, because ultimately it comes down to the Great Architect (programmer of THIS reality). You will notice you have many contrasting religions listed at the bottom.

Then there is the black and white checkered floor which I explained earlier - the illusion of singularity, the good versus evil paradox.

Then you have three pillars (columns). Solar, lunar, and Earth (representing darkness, light, and all between. The third pillar is normally scene as the All Seeing Eye on top of a capped pyramid. Notice how Earth is imprisoned in a hypercube? Time, space, and physical limitations. It´s also radiating gray (I will elaborate on that later).

The solar pillar is what illuminate this reality. The lunar pillar is also polar opposite to Earth, as black is to white and ultimately a representation of a parallel realm (in which extraterrestrials exist). These extraterrestrial beings are of higher rank than the 33rd degree Mason -- they give the orders, however - they are still just players (no more divine than you and I are.

Next you have the weeping virgins (and quite possibly the whore). This is an actual Masonic mega-ritual. The corruption of the virgin is supposed to unite the two realms (black and white) and create a gateway for extraterrestrial to enter through.

The stepladder is the 33 degrees of Freemasonry is the way to immortality and ascension. Once you´ve climbed all 33 steps you advance to the next level of the Game and will reincarnate in the other realm as an Observer/Watcher (extraterrestrial).


What is the significance of Fulcanelli's book of symbols? :dfghjuyh:
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When the Freemason reached his (or now her) 33rd degree they have completely detached themselves from humanity. The 33rd ritual involves transformation where man becomes the abomination of creation, Baphomet. The ritual actual involves the slaughter/sacrifice of a goat and the graduating member must consume it´s blood before it goes cold. To put it simply they are glitching their existence.

Not all Masons reach the 33rd degree - the process varies in time depending on the individual and his dedication to his lodge. All of America´s founding forefathers who were Masons were of the highest degree - chances are that they got what they were promised - immortality (as servants of the Architect in the forms of extraterrestrial beings).

Thank you Sikth for a most interesting thread.

Just today my husband and I spoke about the inner workings of Masonry. Read alot of Jordan Maxwell and others who are clearly into the symbolism that is covert and dark. Maybe mostly dark. Because all symbolism is useful; I think its how it is used and perceived. As example, the Swastika was a moniker of the Nazi army and their beliefs. Yet, if you turned the swastika a certain way, it was used in Atlantis to generate power using crystals.

Here is a question. You have touched upon the 33rd degree. When a person is ready to elevate from 32 to 33rd something profound happens doesn't it? We read something of this nature: to reach 33rd one has to be influential and powerful to be able to suppress some faction in the world.

Why do I think Nancy Pelosi is being honored for her nasty health bill? She may be ascending in stature after such a suppressing event passing the bill in the House of Representatives. ( not over yet). Do you have any thoughts about this?

Also, were our founding fathers, Washington etc. 33rd degree Masons?

How long does it take for a person to go up the ranks to reach 33rd?

Trust me, we are on your wave. We abhore the ideology of this and fight against its residue our life long.
Thanx so much.

4454
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OP I have watched your youtube 33rd analogy ala Truman Show, and also ala The Matrix. I certainly see the similarity in the two scenes, but I am wondering how this relates to what a 33rd degree Mason experiences?

Does the 33rd brother Mason experience a faceslap when reaching that level? What is the revelation that is given, to cause such a known and favored 32degree brother Mason to be so shocked as we see Neo and Truman being?

The revelation that they experience at moving from 32 to 33 degrees, is it in any way connected to their past? Because in both of these cases, we see a father figure, who basically "owns" the son, so to speak. It's like Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker and where Vader gets to hit Luke with the big one, "I'm your father!!" and we see Luke's reaction is precious, according to the above interpretation.

Am I right in assuming that Luke has a 33rd degree experience when Vader drops that truth bomb on him?
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You are spot on with your observation. The journey to the 33rd degree is a long one - each step is supposed to prepare you more and more for the final ascension to immortality. Even though the experience is a slap in the face, by the time they are awakened they have been through a process which basically made them numb to new experiences. Neo nor Truman were all too surprised when they realised their existence was fake. I would have freaked out more than the two of them put together. You see them slowly getting prepared through out their journey - where it get´s the point where they kind of figure it out themselves.
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I have been in their lodges and looked into their eyes. Way fucked up to say the least. Their eyes were jet black and that blackness seemed to stretch into emptiness into their skulls. I also noticed a large amount of Muslim paraphernalia hanging all over the walls.

Any comments?
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Drugs are very baaddd.. Mmkay?
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Hey guys,

Someone in my family is a Mason - therefor growing up I haven´t taken any Masonic conspiracies seriously. Now that I am older and look back at all the times I spent with this family member I am actually convinced that these people are up to no good.

My uncle has been a Freemason for many, many years now. He has been one since I can remember. His wealthy friend nominated him for initiation. My entire family noticed a major change in personality once he joined. He completely removed himself from his family and became very secretive. I do, however, remember times from my childhood, visiting his home. His house was filled with Masonic art, and being a curious soul I would always ask him about them - his answer was always something along the lines of "something you will never understand", or "you will never know". When I was a little older I visited his place again and, again, I was interested in the Masonic art he had in his home. I asked again what kind of art work it was, he´d grin and say "if I told you, I would have to kill you." I always took it as a joke, but that is something strange to say to an eight your old child.

My uncle is not a good man. At that young age I knew nothing of Freemasonry, as a matter of fact I had no idea what THAT was until I turned 18. My uncle has struck my grandmother sending her to hospital, he said that "that alcoholic whore was a disgrace to his name and didn´t want to be in anyway associated with her", he also publicly humiliated my mother at a dinner party by using similar words and throwing wine all over her face.

I still, occasionally, bump into him. Not much is said, though. He mainly just smirks, nods his head, and then walks away. I get more warmth from a stranger.

Now, I am nearing thirty and certainly have had a lot of time to think about my past. I have done a lot of research on Freemasonry and spoken to my grandfather on the topic. What he had to say was very interesting. I have a lot to tell you about the Mason world and would be glad to share it.

So, if any of you have ANY questions feel free to ask me, and if there are any real Mason´s here who try to defend their secret, I will do my best to prove them wrong.

Thank you.
 Quoting: SikTh



I don't think that just because your uncle was that way, means all Masons are that way. It's one thing to say what an individual is like.. It's another to say what a group is like. and vise versa.. hmm? It sounds like it's still fair to say that you don't know if the Masons are up to no good or not..
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This is the thing; I was pressed to join, pressure which still reverberates today
I got sent to "the womb of baal"

I escaped, but not before I was implnted with whatever morgellons will prove to be.

On th eupside I live in an ex lodge, I didnt ind out till I lifted the carpets

I am so sore, unable to do anything and still I get the "engaged" conversations from those within.

I dont feel safe, and I am so weary that life has no meaning except to manage th epain I am in.


Your thoughts?
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That didn't happen. Seek psychological help immediately.
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This is the thing; I was pressed to join, pressure which still reverberates today
I got sent to "the womb of baal"

I escaped, but not before I was implnted with whatever morgellons will prove to be.

On th eupside I live in an ex lodge, I didnt ind out till I lifted the carpets

I am so sore, unable to do anything and still I get the "engaged" conversations from those within.

I dont feel safe, and I am so weary that life has no meaning except to manage th epain I am in.


Your thoughts?
 Quoting: Flaming Sword


That didn't happen. Seek psychological help immediately.
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Thank you Sikth for a most interesting thread.

Just today my husband and I spoke about the inner workings of Masonry. Read alot of Jordan Maxwell Who? . and others who are clearly into the symbolism that is covert and dark. Maybe mostly dark. Because all symbolism is useful; I think its how it is used and perceived. As example, the Swastika was a moniker of the Nazi army and their beliefs. Yet, if you turned the swastika a certain way, it was used in Atlantis to generate power using crystals. Also, Buddists.

Here is a question. You have touched upon the 33rd degree. When a person is ready to elevate from 32 to 33rd something profound happens doesn't it? No. We read something of this nature: to reach 33rd one has to be influential and powerful to be able to suppress some faction in the world.

Why do I think Nancy Pelosi is being honored for her nasty health bill? She may be ascending in stature after such a suppressing event passing the bill in the House of Representatives. ( not over yet). Do you have any thoughts about this?

Also, were our founding fathers, Washington etc. 33rd degree Masons? No. The 33rd degree is honorary and didn't exist at that time.

How long does it take for a person to go up the ranks to reach 33rd? If you're a Freemason, It requires a lifetime of meritious service and/or lots of $$ donated to Masonic charities.

Trust me, we are on your wave. We abhore the ideology of this and fight against its residue our life long.
Thanx so much.

4454
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You don't get nominated. You have to ask to join. Your relative sounds like a jerk, but not all Freemasons are like that. Not all Christians are simple-minded fundies who believe all tall tales without question, either.
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You don't get nominated. You have to ask to join. Your relative sounds like a jerk, but not all Freemasons are like that. Not all Christians are simple-minded fundies who believe all tall tales without question, either.
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There are still a lot of Freemason´s that have no idea what they are supporting. There also a lot of small lodges around the world that are basically their just to raise revenue. I do not doubt that there are good Masons out there - it is the process that numbs them and not every Mason gets to go through the entire process.
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You don't get nominated. You have to ask to join. Your relative sounds like a jerk, but not all Freemasons are like that. Not all Christians are simple-minded fundies who believe all tall tales without question, either.
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You need to be nominated. You can always try to buy your way in, but that will only get you so far.
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No questions.


The pope's Templars and their dupes ...


The Freemasons came to the United States from Scotland and developed into various organizations - the Hellfire Club, The Skull and Bones, the Cross and Key, the Illuminati, the Druids, etc.
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You were doing fairly well before this. The Hellfire Club started in England. Skull and Bones has roots in Germany. The Illuminati does too, but there was an earlier group (probably more) with the same name. The Druids were Celtic priests, who arose AFTER Stonehenge was built.
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You don't get nominated. You have to ask to join. Your relative sounds like a jerk, but not all Freemasons are like that. Not all Christians are simple-minded fundies who believe all tall tales without question, either.


You need to be nominated. You can always try to buy your way in, but that will only get you so far.
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Yes, but you have to ask to join. The nomination doesn't start the process. Masons don't proselytize.
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You don't get nominated. You have to ask to join. Your relative sounds like a jerk, but not all Freemasons are like that. Not all Christians are simple-minded fundies who believe all tall tales without question, either.


You need to be nominated. You can always try to buy your way in, but that will only get you so far.

Yes, but you have to ask to join. The nomination doesn't start the process. Masons don't proselytize.
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The nominee always has an option. He, or she, must give consent for the process to begin. They, of course, sign a contract.

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