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Are you taught humanities et heritage and about the Anunnaki?
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THEN TELL US THE SECRETS

The secret is simple yet hard to swallow. There is no one God to this reality - there is only the Great Architect - and our perception of the Architect is evil. A Master Freemason has no respect for human life - we are just vessels of energy. There is no heaven, there is no hell - there is just the universe and division of energy. I will elaborate a little later. Got to run.
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That sounds like Deism, which influenced Jefferson. I'm not including what you said regarding not respecting life, though. That contradicts Fatherhood and brotherhood.

I'm not saying that I believe this, but what if no human knew/knows the truth about the nature of reality? What if that was kept from humanity?
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You don't get nominated. You have to ask to join. Your relative sounds like a jerk, but not all Freemasons are like that. Not all Christians are simple-minded fundies who believe all tall tales without question, either.


You need to be nominated. You can always try to buy your way in, but that will only get you so far.

Yes, but you have to ask to join. The nomination doesn't start the process. Masons don't proselytize.


The nominee always has an option. He, or she, must give consent for the process to begin. They, of course, sign a contract.
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I must politely disagree with this description. One must ask to join. You're not chosen or tapped before that. It doesn't work that way.
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You don't get nominated. You have to ask to join. Your relative sounds like a jerk, but not all Freemasons are like that. Not all Christians are simple-minded fundies who believe all tall tales without question, either.


You need to be nominated. You can always try to buy your way in, but that will only get you so far.

Yes, but you have to ask to join. The nomination doesn't start the process. Masons don't proselytize.


The nominee always has an option. He, or she, must give consent for the process to begin. They, of course, sign a contract.

I must politely disagree with this description. One must ask to join. You're not chosen or tapped before that. It doesn't work that way.
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You are nominated by a friend who is already a Master Mason. It´s near impossible to be accepted in without someone vouching for you.
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You don't get nominated. You have to ask to join. Your relative sounds like a jerk, but not all Freemasons are like that. Not all Christians are simple-minded fundies who believe all tall tales without question, either.


You need to be nominated. You can always try to buy your way in, but that will only get you so far.

Yes, but you have to ask to join. The nomination doesn't start the process. Masons don't proselytize.


The nominee always has an option. He, or she, must give consent for the process to begin. They, of course, sign a contract.

I must politely disagree with this description. One must ask to join. You're not chosen or tapped before that. It doesn't work that way.


You are nominated by a friend who is already a Master Mason. It´s near impossible to be accepted in without someone vouching for you.
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I agree with that. My point is that you're not asked to join. You have to make the first move.
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What God are you speaking off. There is no one God - we are all God. The illusion is the perception of singularity - the battle is the realisation that singularity is the illusion. I take the universe seriously - not the creators of this game.
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maxiea OP, you really are all stuck up on yourself ain't you. You seem to be living with devils. Sort of like King Saul and the witch of Endor. THE NERVOUS WITCH...

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Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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Living with the devils? No, madam. I am not being judgmental - I am simply telling you what I know. This information predates Christianity. There is a reason for the Masonic secrecy and whether or not you believe it has nothing to do with me. I am at peace with everything. I have no quarrels with your beliefs or anyone else´s, as a matter of fact. If you do not like what I have written then don´t read it. It is as simple as turning the other cheek.

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You don't get nominated. You have to ask to join. Your relative sounds like a jerk, but not all Freemasons are like that. Not all Christians are simple-minded fundies who believe all tall tales without question, either.


You need to be nominated. You can always try to buy your way in, but that will only get you so far.
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No, a prospective member must petition for membership in a Lodge by asking a member of that loge for an application of membership.

When the Lodge receives an application for membership the prospect is investigated and then recommended by the investigative committee after being found worthy and well qualified.

A vote is then taken by the Lodge members to determine if the prospective member will be initiated.
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What God are you speaking off. There is no one God - we are all God. The illusion is the perception of singularity - the battle is the realisation that singularity is the illusion. I take the universe seriously - not the creators of this game.


:maxiea: OP, you really are all stuck up on yourself ain't you. You seem to be living with devils. Sort of like King Saul and the witch of Endor. THE NERVOUS WITCH...

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Do you believe the stories told by John Todd? He said that he was a high-ranking witch. Jack Chick was his personal friend.
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You don't get nominated. You have to ask to join. Your relative sounds like a jerk, but not all Freemasons are like that. Not all Christians are simple-minded fundies who believe all tall tales without question, either.


You need to be nominated. You can always try to buy your way in, but that will only get you so far.



No, a prospective member must petition for membership in a Lodge by asking a member of that loge for an application of membership.

When the Lodge receives an application for membership the prospect is investigated and then recommended by the investigative committee after being found worthy and well qualified.

A vote is then taken by the Lodge members to determine if the prospective member will be initiated.
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And the application is judged on your career and wealth status - in other words if you can afford to join (buy yourself in).

The most common case is when a Master Mason recommends, or nominates, and individual to join the lodge.
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You don't get nominated. You have to ask to join. Your relative sounds like a jerk, but not all Freemasons are like that. Not all Christians are simple-minded fundies who believe all tall tales without question, either.


You need to be nominated. You can always try to buy your way in, but that will only get you so far.



No, a prospective member must petition for membership in a Lodge by asking a member of that loge for an application of membership.

When the Lodge receives an application for membership the prospect is investigated and then recommended by the investigative committee after being found worthy and well qualified.

A vote is then taken by the Lodge members to determine if the prospective member will be initiated.
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It sounds like we agree on that point. It could be that you misunderstood me since this is the internet, which is rife with misunderstandings. Maybe I should have explained myself better. Anyway, one must ask to join. They're not asked to join, but your post seems to be on point.
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Anyway, don´t let our differences set us apart. There are none.

Peace to you all. I got to get some rest.

hf
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You don't get nominated. You have to ask to join. Your relative sounds like a jerk, but not all Freemasons are like that. Not all Christians are simple-minded fundies who believe all tall tales without question, either.


You need to be nominated. You can always try to buy your way in, but that will only get you so far.



No, a prospective member must petition for membership in a Lodge by asking a member of that loge for an application of membership.

When the Lodge receives an application for membership the prospect is investigated and then recommended by the investigative committee after being found worthy and well qualified.

A vote is then taken by the Lodge members to determine if the prospective member will be initiated.


And the application is judged on your career and wealth status - in other words if you can afford to join (buy yourself in).

The most common case is when a Master Mason recommends, or nominates, and individual to join the lodge.
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False. The socieo-economic status, race or religion of a prospective member are not considerations for membership.

Only the quality of his character.
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You don't get nominated. You have to ask to join. Your relative sounds like a jerk, but not all Freemasons are like that. Not all Christians are simple-minded fundies who believe all tall tales without question, either.


You need to be nominated. You can always try to buy your way in, but that will only get you so far.



No, a prospective member must petition for membership in a Lodge by asking a member of that loge for an application of membership.

When the Lodge receives an application for membership the prospect is investigated and then recommended by the investigative committee after being found worthy and well qualified.

A vote is then taken by the Lodge members to determine if the prospective member will be initiated.


And the application is judged on your career and wealth status - in other words if you can afford to join (buy yourself in).

The most common case is when a Master Mason recommends, or nominates, and individual to join the lodge.
 Quoting: SikTh



False. The socieo-economic status, race or religion of a prospective member are not considerations for membership.

Only the quality of his character.
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False. The socieo-economic status, race or religion of a prospective member are not considerations for membership.

Only the quality of his character.
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With all due respect, sir. How can the lodge judge the quality of his character from a single application? It takes years at end to determine the quality of ones character. Though it is a nice notion, it is definitely not what they are looking for.

Unless of course you consider success a character trait, then I guess you could say that membership is judged on the quality of the applicant´s character.
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False. The socieo-economic status, race or religion of a prospective member are not considerations for membership.

Only the quality of his character.


With all due respect, sir. How can the lodge judge the quality of his character from a single application? It takes years at end to determine the quality of ones character. Though it is a nice notion, it is definitely not what they are looking for.

Unless of course you consider success a character trait, then I guess you could say that membership is judged on the quality of the applicant´s character.
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Just like an employer would:

- Verification of personal references
- Employment verification
- Credit check
- Background check with law enforcement

Freemasonry tests the character of the candidate in each degree. Not every candidate becomes a Master Mason. Not to say there aren't some real dooshes in Freemasonry, there are, but most prospective members desire membership seeking knowledge.
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To become a Master Mason you need to reach the 3rd degree. When an employee reviews an application he is not judging the quality of your character but rather the authenticity of your liability. Your boss doesn´t care what kind of person you are as long as you show up on time and do the work that you are required to do.

Regards.
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To become a Master Mason you need to reach the 3rd degree. When an employee reviews an application he is not judging the quality of your character but rather the authenticity of your liability. Your boss doesn´t care what kind of person you are as long as you show up on time and do the work that you are required to do.

Regards.
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This picture is a little strange.

Let´s begin with the religious symbols. Notice how they are at the very bottom of the painting? It means that all religions are basically nullified by their secret. It doesn´t matter which God you worship, or how your worship them, because ultimately it comes down to the Great Architect (programmer of THIS reality). You will notice you have many contrasting religions listed at the bottom.

Then there is the black and white checkered floor which I explained earlier - the illusion of singularity, the good versus evil paradox.

Then you have three pillars (columns). Solar, lunar, and Earth (representing darkness, light, and all between. The third pillar is normally scene as the All Seeing Eye on top of a capped pyramid. Notice how Earth is imprisoned in a hypercube? Time, space, and physical limitations. It´s also radiating gray (I will elaborate on that later).

The solar pillar is what illuminate this reality. The lunar pillar is also polar opposite to Earth, as black is to white and ultimately a representation of a parallel realm (in which extraterrestrials exist). These extraterrestrial beings are of higher rank than the 33rd degree Mason -- they give the orders, however - they are still just players (no more divine than you and I are.

Next you have the weeping virgins (and quite possibly the whore). This is an actual Masonic mega-ritual. The corruption of the virgin is supposed to unite the two realms (black and white) and create a gateway for extraterrestrial to enter through.

The stepladder is the 33 degrees of Freemasonry is the way to immortality and ascension. Once you´ve climbed all 33 steps you advance to the next level of the Game and will reincarnate in the other realm as an Observer/Watcher (extraterrestrial).



What is the significance of Fulcanelli's book of symbols? :dfghjuyh:

 Quoting: SikTh

I've seen that that picture (tracing board) and many similar to it before, but never heard quite an interpretation for all the allegories. Thanks for that.

I have a question about the highlighted portion of your interpretation. When you say a 33rd° Mason reincarnates, you're saying that his/her physical body dies literally or metaphorically? Is it sort of like some religions beliefs of dying and going to heaven?
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I have researched Secret Societies and the Masons for almost four years now.

These two videos have all the information I have come across, in one place, with info from these groups own documents. I learned even more that I didnt already know. They are long, but worth every second!!!

Secret Behind the Secret Societies
[link to www.youtube.com]

Hidden Agendas
[link to www.youtube.com]
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I have a question about the highlighted portion of your interpretation. When you say a 33rd° Mason reincarnates, you're saying that his/her physical body dies literally or metaphorically? Is it sort of like some religions beliefs of dying and going to heaven?
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They become workers of the Architect - Grays.
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When the Freemason reached his (or now her) 33rd degree they have completely detached themselves from humanity. The 33rd ritual involves transformation where man becomes the abomination of creation, Baphomet. The ritual actual involves the slaughter/sacrifice of a goat and the graduating member must consume it´s blood before it goes cold. To put it simply they are glitching their existence.

Not all Masons reach the 33rd degree - the process varies in time depending on the individual and his dedication to his lodge. All of America´s founding forefathers who were Masons were of the highest degree - chances are that they got what they were promised - immortality (as servants of the Architect in the forms of extraterrestrial beings).

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When did they let women join in?
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I have a question about the highlighted portion of your interpretation. When you say a 33rd° Mason reincarnates, you're saying that his/her physical body dies literally or metaphorically? Is it sort of like some religions beliefs of dying and going to heaven?


They become workers of the Architect - Grays.
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So does a human need to physically die before becoming a Gray? Or is it some sort of transformation that a human goes through while alive?

I read the rest of your posts past the one I responded to. And it seems that you are saying they will ascend after their physical death.
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I have a question about the highlighted portion of your interpretation. When you say a 33rd° Mason reincarnates, you're saying that his/her physical body dies literally or metaphorically? Is it sort of like some religions beliefs of dying and going to heaven?


They become workers of the Architect - Grays.

So does a human need to physically die before becoming a Gray? Or is it some sort of transformation that a human goes through while alive?

I read the rest of your posts past the one I responded to. And it seems that you are saying they will ascend after their physical death.
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Through the Freemasonic process you sell your essence (soul) to the Architect in which he grants you immortality as a gray. You reincarnate as a Gray - so yes, it is after death. Those who do not sell out become a part of the great cosmos and reunite with Oneness.
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When the Freemason reached his (or now her) 33rd degree they have completely detached themselves from humanity. The 33rd ritual involves transformation where man becomes the abomination of creation, Baphomet. The ritual actual involves the slaughter/sacrifice of a goat and the graduating member must consume it´s blood before it goes cold. To put it simply they are glitching their existence.

Not all Masons reach the 33rd degree - the process varies in time depending on the individual and his dedication to his lodge. All of America´s founding forefathers who were Masons were of the highest degree - chances are that they got what they were promised - immortality (as servants of the Architect in the forms of extraterrestrial beings).



When did they let women join in?
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Check out the auxiliary Order of the Eastern Star.
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I have researched Secret Societies and the Masons for almost four years now.

These two videos have all the information I have come across, in one place, with info from these groups own documents. I learned even more that I didnt already know. They are long, but worth every second!!!

Secret Behind the Secret Societies
[link to www.youtube.com]

Hidden Agendas
[link to www.youtube.com]
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What's your summary of their opinions (in case we can't play the clips)?
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When the Freemason reached his (or now her) 33rd degree they have completely detached themselves from humanity. The 33rd ritual involves transformation where man becomes the abomination of creation, Baphomet. The ritual actual involves the slaughter/sacrifice of a goat and the graduating member must consume it´s blood before it goes cold. To put it simply they are glitching their existence.

Not all Masons reach the 33rd degree - the process varies in time depending on the individual and his dedication to his lodge. All of America´s founding forefathers who were Masons were of the highest degree - chances are that they got what they were promised - immortality (as servants of the Architect in the forms of extraterrestrial beings).



When did they let women join in?

Check out the auxiliary Order of the Eastern Star.
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Checking it out. Thanks. So can a Woman become a 33rd degree? I just thought it was men only.
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At what point does a freemason lose his soul? It just sounds like its worth it to become immortal. After all if you dont sell out and return to oneness dont you lose your self in that process?

So if you become a grey like a freemason does that mean you are stuck as a grey for infinity? or just until the game ends

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At what point does a freemason lose his soul? It just sounds like its worth it to become immortal. After all if you dont sell out and return to oneness dont you lose your self in that process?

So if you become a grey like a freemason does that mean you are stuck as a grey for infinity?
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I do not know the answer to that question. If, however, you are still able to release your energy once you become a gray I would imagine it being a lot harder to do so.

And yes, the spoils of the Game are tempting. The lady in red (aka the temptress) seduces a lot of innocent souls. There is no fulfillment in it, though - and you would only be surrounding yourself by more negative energy.
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SikTh - Just dropping in to say, thanks for sticking up for me. That was nice of you. My pc went down for a bit, and when I got back, all this crap was posted on there. It doesn't bother me, lol. I find those people amusing. They're portals maybe?

Thanks for the video too. I love watching stuff like that. It's nice to have people going through the same thing to talk to.

Thanks again :)

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