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Here's a questions I've asked several times of so-called Masons, what is the significance of the black and white check theme? It's in some cathedrals, on some police hats and other places? Why?
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It´s the illusion. Duality is created when conceptual attributes are given to divide the whole. It´s really as simple as taken a piece of paper coloring one side of white and the other black and trying to sell it as two separate items. The Architect created the illusion of the Great Divide of Cosmic Consciousness and this reality is a product of that. The checkered pattern also represents polar extremes. We humans are much like batteries - batteries have a negative and positive terminals which creates a chemical reaction that produces energy. Our negative and positive terminal are love and hate, and our chemical reaction is the emotion these polar extremes generate. The universe is harmonized therefor we are constantly seeing synchronicity where ever we look. The most common and simple example of this is a ripple. Drop a rock into the river and it creates a ripple - and that ripple creates an identical ripple, so on, so forth. We have mimicked our creation here on Earth in many forms - people are just too confused to understand this.

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Very enlightening thread, thanks again OP.


Are the masons actively (and possibly successfully) trying to end the duality game? Are they catalysts for the upcoming integration?


These guys fascinate me. They definitely know what is up on the higher levels, which would make one question the nefarious theories on what their real goals are.


Let us all try to set assumptions aside and continue asking the good questions.
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There will be no end. All they can do is maintain the effect of the illusion. Once you know their tricks you become unfazed by the illusion. Freemason only know of the Architect - I doubt they have any comprehension of the works of the universe.

Their agenda is so simple. They want to keep us here. They do not want us to ascend and leave the Game.
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did the masons have a hand in doing 9/11 7/7.
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The Illuminati did. Not all Freemason´s are aware of their contribution and connection to the Illuminati - and to answer your question, yes - they were.
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"They want to keep us here. They do not want us to ascend and leave the Game."

We can "leave the Game" then, by opting not to play?
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Great thread! I grew up in SW OH and the Shriners were/are everywhere. My maternal grandfather was a Mason. I do not know the degree, but his "friends" berated my mother for not burying his apron with him, upon his death. She did not know to do so, but then she did not care about honoring that part of his life.

My question is how do the Gray Hybrids fit into all of this? And how does the pending Pole Shift equate.

Thanks


Grays are known as the workers of the Architect - they are one rank higher than the Illuminati. While the Illuminati control Game here on Earth the Grays consciously observe, control, and maintain the illusion of singularity and the Great Divide. They move freely within the boundaries of space/time.
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Thank you, again, for your perspective! This is indeed quite enlightening.

Is there truth to the Human Hybrids? Someone else here explained it as the Grays 'wanting what we have.'

And is the Pole Shift an illusion or reality? Fear-mongering or an inevitability?
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"They want to keep us here. They do not want us to ascend and leave the Game."

We can "leave the Game" then, by opting not to play?
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Be apart of the world, but not of the world, always bring attention back to the center, its like awareness, and the triggers people throw out at you, you dont have to play that trigger. You can absorb that push, and redirect it, refineing it, into safe and purposefull channels.
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Actually what I am saying is that we humans, on planet Earth, are indeed in the image of the god in the flesh of this planet. And, like the god in the flesh of this planet is the seed of reality for this planet; this planet is the seed of reality for this universe.

Not a game.
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Not a game? So, life is not a competition? It is so obvious - who we are. Life is the Game and we are the race - hence race. You are constantly competing against people in every aspect of your life.
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Here's a questions I've asked several times of so-called Masons, what is the significance of the black and white check theme? It's in some cathedrals, on some police hats and other places? Why?

I do not know the people that made the symbol, hence do not know thier personal reason, but I do know the answer: duality.

Who wants a fight? How does one promote a fight?


I will say again, we have been immersed in duality. For a reason. That mission is complete; we are about to leave this immersion. It will be like swimming to the surface of water. Ever open your eyes under water, and try to look at what is on the outside, as in a pool?

There are those that do not want this planet to leave the immersion.
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This is true. Well spoken.
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Actually what I am saying is that we humans, on planet Earth, are indeed in the image of the god in the flesh of this planet. And, like the god in the flesh of this planet is the seed of reality for this planet; this planet is the seed of reality for this universe.

Not a game.


Not a game? So, life is not a competition? It is so obvious - who we are. Life is the Game and we are the race - hence race. You are constantly competing against people in every aspect of your life.
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One of the harsher realities, forcing one to come to terms with, is those closest to you, being the most toxic. Yes. I tend to agree with the competiton.
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Great thread! I grew up in SW OH and the Shriners were/are everywhere. My maternal grandfather was a Mason. I do not know the degree, but his "friends" berated my mother for not burying his apron with him, upon his death. She did not know to do so, but then she did not care about honoring that part of his life.

My question is how do the Gray Hybrids fit into all of this? And how does the pending Pole Shift equate.

Thanks


Grays are known as the workers of the Architect - they are one rank higher than the Illuminati. While the Illuminati control Game here on Earth the Grays consciously observe, control, and maintain the illusion of singularity and the Great Divide. They move freely within the boundaries of space/time.


Thank you, again, for your perspective! This is indeed quite enlightening.

Is there truth to the Human Hybrids? Someone else here explained it as the Grays 'wanting what we have.'

And is the Pole Shift an illusion or reality? Fear-mongering or an inevitability?
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Regarding the Grays wanting what we have - I have heard that before but I honestly do not know whether that is true or not. Wouldn´t be too hard to believe if it in fact is true. The more you play this game the emptier you feel. There is no fulfillment in all the riches of this game. I guess one of the final awakening moments to a Gray would be realizing just how irrelevant this all is.

The pole shift, in your words, is a reality. When black becomes white, or vise-versa. It could be when all the energy that is created in this realm is harvested.
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My former boyfriend was of that cult. I tried really hard to get him inebriated enough to divulge his secrets but to no avail. He had a lot of money and clout and he belonged to the shriner sect. I couldn't get squat from him other than his interest in astronomy and the Orion constellation. The belt is a direction rather than an accessory. I'm pretty sure the Freemason's understand our origin but choose to keep it secret.
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pleiades...
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Moving on.

The Illuminati, or the Illuminated Ones, are the servants of the Sun/Ma´at/Ra/Horus/Lucifer, the bringer of light. The Illuminati are the highest ranking Freemasons that exist within this realm of the system. They are the creators and founders of religion, politics, trade, and materialism. Engineers to reality. Faithful to the Architect they carry forth his agenda - the harvesting of energy.

They are trying to push through the New World Order before the cosmic shift in consciousness. As silly as it sounds, think of it this way. You are a farmer and you own a wholesale egg company. One day the farmer notices that one of his chickens flew away - it evolved, grew bigger and stronger wings. The farmer must now gather all his chickens in one pen to observe them. He then clips the wings of the chickens to make sure they cannot fly away, because if all the chickens flew away he wouldn´t have a company any more. :)
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I have been in their lodges and looked into their eyes. Way fucked up to say the least. Their eyes were jet black and that blackness seemed to stretch into emptiness into their skulls. I also noticed a large amount of Muslim paraphernalia hanging all over the walls.

Any comments?
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Probably not a good idea to drop acid before visiting a lodge.
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The journey a Freemason must take is one of awakening. They symbolize this at initiation by blindfolding and stripping down the recruit. The initiate must know his insignificance in an insignificant reality. The Freemason must learn to true worth of human life and prove this with sacrifice. All Freemasons must offer a blood sacrifice to be granted the privilege of seeing the eye of the Grand Architect. Game of the gods, if you will....
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From what I've heard, that "eye" is a brown one.
Wink, wink.
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pleiades...
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hf
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The journey a Freemason must take is one of awakening. They symbolize this at initiation by blindfolding and stripping down the recruit. The initiate must know his insignificance in an insignificant reality. The Freemason must learn to true worth of human life and prove this with sacrifice. All Freemasons must offer a blood sacrifice to be granted the privilege of seeing the eye of the Grand Architect. Game of the gods, if you will....

From what I've heard, that "eye" is a brown one.
Wink, wink.
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Indeed. They are all ass kissers.
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Moving on.

The Illuminati, or the Illuminated Ones, are the servants of the Sun/Ma´at/Ra/Horus/Lucifer, the bringer of light. The Illuminati are the highest ranking Freemasons that exist within this realm of the system. They are the creators and founders of religion, politics, trade, and materialism. Engineers to reality. Faithful to the Architect they carry forth his agenda - the harvesting of energy.

They are trying to push through the New World Order before the cosmic shift in consciousness. As silly as it sounds, think of it this way. You are a farmer and you own a wholesale egg company. One day the farmer notices that one of his chickens flew away - it evolved, grew bigger and stronger wings. The farmer must now gather all his chickens in one pen to observe them. He then clips the wings of the chickens to make sure they cannot fly away, because if all the chickens flew away he wouldn´t have a company any more. :)
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lol (i havent got any questions).
ever read the letters between sparticus and cato?
you have a vivid imagination.
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Masonic secret: Is IT (reality) a wave or a particle?

There are two groups, in the Masons. One believes in God as a force, like intelligent design, like Star Wars the force. God as a wave. The other believes in God as a single entity. A representation of this is Jesus.

Both are right, reality is both a particle and a wave. I think. But, it may come down to being a particle. How does the particle, then, act as a wave? Well, a logical answer would be that we exist inside, within God, the universe being God. That, therefore, all is one. But, I see a school of fish; lots of individual fish move as a wave. The hive mind. I look at a wave crashing on a shore and know the wave, water, is made up of lots of individual water molecules.

These two groups comprise actual countries, in the Mason's. I was once told who these countries are. I do not remember all of it, but it was like three countries per side. On the particle side, basically the West, is USA, Britian, and I think it was Portugal. On the other, God as a force, side, is France, and I forget the other two. I think Germany was one.

I read, skimmed the book "Vedanta For The Western World", and it seems to me that the West is a focus on the Atman, and the East is a focus on -damn can't remember the word now.

But the Iraq war was a fight between these two sides.
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Atman and Brahman.

Wave or Particle?
Both and Neither, Always.
(Not to sound like the recent "V" remake on ABC).
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Atman and Brahman.

Wave or Particle?
Both and Neither, Always.
(Not to sound like the recent "V" remake on ABC).
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Precisely - it is an attribute that the observer gives it. The energy is a limitless source code which can create infinite results. Trying to figure out whether it is a wave or a particle is like taking a look small part of a programed code and deciding whether it is a command or a variable.
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They're full of ****, just like this thread.

All of their secrets are known...



Their is truth in their knowledge, mate. There is more truth to Freemasonry than there is to a lot of religions. All those volumes on history and our creation is in their hand. The people are left with fictional version of these volumes - history is a hoax, sir.


They confess to Lucifer, at least some of them as you have seen the Shriner do.

Is that Truth?

If you don't even wake up when you see testimonies of what they belive WHEN will you Wake Up?


We have no idea what light is. What is light in a holographic world? How can you identify light? You can light a dark room with electricity and by definition that is light - but is it really?

Lucifer, as described in many volumes, is the bringer of light - but the source of the light is in no way pure or real.
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Scientifically speaking, light is photons. Our eyes sense different densities of these photons bouncing off of stuff so we can differentiate what perceiev as reality.

Metaphorically speaking, illumination is knowledge (tempered by wisdom). To become illuminated is to become educated. Knowledge is neither good or bad. Wisdom can be used for good or evil.

Light-bringer, in many ways, has nothing to do with photons and much to do with knowledge.

Lucifer, the light bringer, the morning star, the evening star, Venus, etc. gives of photons, yes, but the metaphor, the knowledge of astronomy, astrology, metallurgy, etc. (Stuff the Bible says the Nephilim gave to human women, first), is the real light that was brought (not photons, or visible light).

And, compared to a simple hunter-gatherer existence, all of that knowledge has not improved human life, but enslaved it.

Illumination, in literature, means either illustrated publications and side-notes in the margins of a publication.

In a holographic world, one has holographic photons. Everything is a symbol of something else. Forms versus tangible reality. Why symbols are so important to human beings (which is why, by extention, symbols are so important to masons... I think).
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Metaphorically speaking, illumination is knowledge (tempered by wisdom). To become illuminated is to become educated. Knowledge is neither good or bad. Wisdom can be used for good or evil.

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I've seen it equated in the past, as:

Knowledge is Power. How you use that Power is Wisdom. What is, simply is. It is neither good nor bad. Evil or divine. [as argued here: Black or White] It is what you do with, how you use that Knowledge, that ends up being perceived as right or wrong. Good or Bad.
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Metaphorically speaking, illumination is knowledge (tempered by wisdom). To become illuminated is to become educated. Knowledge is neither good or bad. Wisdom can be used for good or evil.



I've seen it equated in the past, as:

Knowledge is Power. How you use that Power is Wisdom. What is, simply is. It is neither good nor bad. Evil or divine. [as argued here: Black or White] It is what you do with, how you use that Knowledge, that ends up being perceived as right or wrong. Good or Bad.
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"perceived as..."
Good point.
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Scientifically speaking, light is photons. Our eyes sense different densities of these photons bouncing off of stuff so we can differentiate what perceiev as reality.

Metaphorically speaking, illumination is knowledge (tempered by wisdom). To become illuminated is to become educated. Knowledge is neither good or bad. Wisdom can be used for good or evil.

Light-bringer, in many ways, has nothing to do with photons and much to do with knowledge.

Lucifer, the light bringer, the morning star, the evening star, Venus, etc. gives of photons, yes, but the metaphor, the knowledge of astronomy, astrology, metallurgy, etc. (Stuff the Bible says the Nephilim gave to human women, first), is the real light that was brought (not photons, or visible light).

And, compared to a simple hunter-gatherer existence, all of that knowledge has not improved human life, but enslaved it.

Illumination, in literature, means either illustrated publications and side-notes in the margins of a publication.

In a holographic world, one has holographic photons. Everything is a symbol of something else. Forms versus tangible reality. Why symbols are so important to human beings (which is why, by extention, symbols are so important to masons... I think).
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It is more of an analogy than a metaphor. The universe is filled with synchronicity. In Freemasonry Lucifer is referred to as The Great Architect, and as worshiped as the sun. In their teachings the Architect created the sun - and without the sun life as we know it would not exist. Through life comes knowledge - the sun represents everything. The thing that people do not understand is that this knowledge is a creation of the Architect and there is no wisdom in it. Like the Matrix, you can create something within in it but it is still a part of the illusion.
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Scientifically speaking, light is photons. Our eyes sense different densities of these photons bouncing off of stuff so we can differentiate what perceiev as reality.

Metaphorically speaking, illumination is knowledge (tempered by wisdom). To become illuminated is to become educated. Knowledge is neither good or bad. Wisdom can be used for good or evil.

Light-bringer, in many ways, has nothing to do with photons and much to do with knowledge.

Lucifer, the light bringer, the morning star, the evening star, Venus, etc. gives of photons, yes, but the metaphor, the knowledge of astronomy, astrology, metallurgy, etc. (Stuff the Bible says the Nephilim gave to human women, first), is the real light that was brought (not photons, or visible light).

And, compared to a simple hunter-gatherer existence, all of that knowledge has not improved human life, but enslaved it.

Illumination, in literature, means either illustrated publications and side-notes in the margins of a publication.

In a holographic world, one has holographic photons. Everything is a symbol of something else. Forms versus tangible reality. Why symbols are so important to human beings (which is why, by extention, symbols are so important to masons... I think).


It is more of an analogy than a metaphor. The universe is filled with synchronicity. In Freemasonry Lucifer is referred to as The Great Architect, and as worshiped as the sun. In their teachings the Architect created the sun - and without the sun life as we know it would not exist. Through life comes knowledge - the sun represents everything. The thing that people do not understand is that this knowledge is a creation of the Architect and there is no wisdom in it. Like the Matrix, you can create something within in it but it is still a part of the illusion.
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So it's a matter of learning from whence comes the Knowledge?
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Moving on.

The Illuminati, or the Illuminated Ones, are the servants of the Sun/Ma´at/Ra/Horus/Lucifer, the bringer of light. The Illuminati are the highest ranking Freemasons that exist within this realm of the system. They are the creators and founders of religion, politics, trade, and materialism. Engineers to reality. Faithful to the Architect they carry forth his agenda - the harvesting of energy.

They are trying to push through the New World Order before the cosmic shift in consciousness. As silly as it sounds, think of it this way. You are a farmer and you own a wholesale egg company. One day the farmer notices that one of his chickens flew away - it evolved, grew bigger and stronger wings. The farmer must now gather all his chickens in one pen to observe them. He then clips the wings of the chickens to make sure they cannot fly away, because if all the chickens flew away he wouldn´t have a company any more. :)
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I agree with this, freemasony is like a controled school for spiritual knowledge, except, freemsony does not talk for the all, the knowledge can be found in many places, freemasons workers of spirit, the rock, the foundation.

The farmer needs to think outside the box, as the benifit of flying chickens could possibly be of more value then a non flying chicken.

The farmer if seeing this evolution within his enviroment, must then consider, if he himself will one day grow wings, all things are connected.

In reality man is the one in a mind cage?
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Scientifically speaking, light is photons. Our eyes sense different densities of these photons bouncing off of stuff so we can differentiate what perceiev as reality.

Metaphorically speaking, illumination is knowledge (tempered by wisdom). To become illuminated is to become educated. Knowledge is neither good or bad. Wisdom can be used for good or evil.

Light-bringer, in many ways, has nothing to do with photons and much to do with knowledge.

Lucifer, the light bringer, the morning star, the evening star, Venus, etc. gives of photons, yes, but the metaphor, the knowledge of astronomy, astrology, metallurgy, etc. (Stuff the Bible says the Nephilim gave to human women, first), is the real light that was brought (not photons, or visible light).

And, compared to a simple hunter-gatherer existence, all of that knowledge has not improved human life, but enslaved it.

Illumination, in literature, means either illustrated publications and side-notes in the margins of a publication.

In a holographic world, one has holographic photons. Everything is a symbol of something else. Forms versus tangible reality. Why symbols are so important to human beings (which is why, by extention, symbols are so important to masons... I think).


It is more of an analogy than a metaphor. The universe is filled with synchronicity. In Freemasonry Lucifer is referred to as The Great Architect, and as worshiped as the sun. In their teachings the Architect created the sun - and without the sun life as we know it would not exist. Through life comes knowledge - the sun represents everything. The thing that people do not understand is that this knowledge is a creation of the Architect and there is no wisdom in it. Like the Matrix, you can create something within in it but it is still a part of the illusion.


So it's a matter of learning from whence comes the Knowledge?
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Knowledge is a part of the system - helps maintain the illusion of duality. It divides us from spirituality. There is a massive difference between wisdom and knowledge.

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I agree with this, freemasony is like a controled school for spiritual knowledge, except, freemsony does not talk for the all, the knowledge can be found in many places, freemasons workers of spirit, the rock, the foundation.

The farmer needs to think outside the box, as the benifit of flying chickens could possibly be of more value then a non flying chicken.

The farmer if seeing this evolution within his enviroment, must then consider, if he himself will one day grow wings, all things are connected.

In reality man is the one in a mind cage?
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Spot on!

But therein lies THEIR problem. The name of the game is harvesting. Even in a cage, those flying chickens would be harder to control - and maybe, just maybe, those chickens don´t want to lay any more eggs. :)

Black and white. The Freemasons are a cult of duality - they are farther from spirituality the a Zen Buddhist monk. They have knowledge but it is only useful within the frames of the Architect´s creation.
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"They want to keep us here. They do not want us to ascend and leave the Game."

We can "leave the Game" then, by opting not to play?
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He only way out is in...and through.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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"They want to keep us here. They do not want us to ascend and leave the Game."

We can "leave the Game" then, by opting not to play?

He only way out is in...and through.
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Through your inner portal. Only way to find that is to bring equilibrium between the trinity of your existence; body, mind, and soul. When these three elements resonate with the frequencies of the Architect´s game you can slip through the hole and ascend beyond the Game. So, yes, in and through is the only way out.

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Re: Masonic Secrets. (Questions Encouraged)
SikTh
Can you tell me if there is any truth to the math in this youtube video... (that the capstone equates that from 2009 to 2016 signifies the last seven years)
thanks for your info - very interesting
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