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12 Hours before the Disaster unemployment numbers are released and a day before OBAMACARE vote...A Muslim Terrorist Saves Obama's Ass
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 761335
11/6/2009 5:57 PM | | Re: 12 Hours before the Disaster unemployment numbers are released and a day before OBAMACARE vote...A Muslim Terrorist Saves Obama's Ass | Quote |
It has come to my attention that there has been some posts of PACNWguy lately which make sense to me...
I don't know what to think about that :p |
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PACNWguy 
User ID: 688273
11/6/2009 5:57 PM
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OK Mr "TX PATRIOT"
Educate me.
tell me precisely what is "un-Constitutional" about the bill, and how is it being passed in a "parliamentary" manner.
Put up or shut up.
Because you really don't know the definitions of any of those terms.
Like George, I mean PAC, you just spout unsubstantiated things you heard on FOX. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 464288
Forcing people to pay premiums and be covered by health insurance if they choose not to play the game is un-constitutional.
Forcing the bill through using 'tricks' and back room tactics against the majority of the people and 100% of the opposition party, is a using parliamentary proceedures.
The Democrats are…well advised to start preparing to use an arcane parliamentary tactic known as “budget reconciliation” that would let them sidestep a Republican filibuster and approve reform proposals by a simple majority.
The approach is risky. Reconciliation bills are primarily intended to deal with budget items that affect the deficit, not with substantive legislation like health care reform.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 464288
11/6/2009 5:59 PM | | Re: 12 Hours before the Disaster unemployment numbers are released and a day before OBAMACARE vote...A Muslim Terrorist Saves Obama's Ass | Quote |
Outside of the Moveon.org sponsored demonstrations against Bush DISGUISED as Anti-War demonstrations,
Did you see tens of thousands of people marching on DC over any of the above?
No you didnt.
Do you see tens of thousands of people marching on DC over the PARTISAN congress trying to push through a bill because they have a small majority in Congress?
Yes you do.
People are pissed that Obama lied and is working on Health Care and Climate shit that in the exit polls came in dead last of of what is important to the voters.
IN ALL POLLS, THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE DO NO SUPPORT THIS HEALTH CARE BILL. YET THE FUCKING DEMS ARE TRYING TO PUSH IT WITH 100% OF THE REPRUBLICANS, THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS AND MANY DEMS AGAINST IT. Quoting: PACNWguy
So anti Bush demonstrations and anit-war demonstrations are mutually exclusive, George, I mean PAC?
BC Bush didn't have ANYTHING to do with the iraq War, right?
[link to www.commondreams.org]
[link to news.bbc.co.uk]
[link to www.cbsnews.com]
[link to www.cbsnews.com]
Above are just a few of the dozens, at least, of EASILY found articles from Google talking about not just tens of thousands, but hundreds of thousands.
But that is really just falling into your trap of having to refute unsubstantiated nonsense to get to the real point.
Actually it is far better to use your own words, bc as I argued before you have NO real consistency.
In your own post you talk about the Dems having a "small majority" -- btw exactly is that, like a woman being half pregnant.
And yet further down, in the same post, you argue that all the Repubs and many of the Dems are against the bill.
So which is it, do the Dems have enough of a majority to "ram" through the bill in a partisan way, or don' they?
Typical George, I mean PAC, you want to argue both ways, AT THE SAME TIME. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 464288
11/6/2009 6:06 PM | | Re: 12 Hours before the Disaster unemployment numbers are released and a day before OBAMACARE vote...A Muslim Terrorist Saves Obama's Ass | Quote |
Forcing people to pay premiums and be covered by health insurance if they choose not to play the game is un-constitutional.
Forcing the bill through using 'tricks' and back room tactics against the majority of the people and 100% of the opposition party, is a using parliamentary proceedures.
The Democrats are…well advised to start preparing to use an arcane parliamentary tactic known as “budget reconciliation” that would let them sidestep a Republican filibuster and approve reform proposals by a simple majority.
The approach is risky. Reconciliation bills are primarily intended to deal with budget items that affect the deficit, not with substantive legislation like health care reform. Quoting: PACNWguy
Once again, trying, unsuccessfully, to make what you think be accepted as truth, WITHOUT ANY SUBSTANTIATION.
please tell me the Supreme Court ruling that said "Forcing people to pay premiums and be covered by health insurance if they choose not to play the game is un-constitutional".
You can't, bc IT IS JUST YOUR FUCKING OPINION.
And once again, "The approach is risky. Reconciliation bills are primarily intended to deal with budget items that affect the deficit, not with substantive legislation like health care reform.' More fucking BS PAC opinion.
btw PAC, did you forget that reconciliation will/would only be necessary bc of the "arcane parliamentary" procedure whereby one Senator can stop legislation that the MAJORITY of the Senate is for. Guess that parliamentary manuever is OK, as long as it is your side playing the card. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 464288
11/6/2009 6:07 PM | | Re: 12 Hours before the Disaster unemployment numbers are released and a day before OBAMACARE vote...A Muslim Terrorist Saves Obama's Ass | Quote |
And you keep saying the "majority of the people" as if it is the truth.
FACTS, please. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 736237
11/6/2009 6:08 PM | | Re: 12 Hours before the Disaster unemployment numbers are released and a day before OBAMACARE vote...A Muslim Terrorist Saves Obama's Ass | Quote |
Yep, you got it, it's all timed, precision work.
Unbelievable, how much is concocted here. |
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Shaun1111
User ID: 567273
11/6/2009 6:09 PM | | Re: 12 Hours before the Disaster unemployment numbers are released and a day before OBAMACARE vote...A Muslim Terrorist Saves Obama's Ass | Quote |
pac guy you amaze me..lol
i would love to hear your vision of the future for Humanity on this planet:)
I see nothing out of the ordinary:
SAME SHIT, DIFFERENT DAY
"And you shall hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places."
It will go on forever and a day.
i'm sure that was written by the powers that were..just a little fyi:)
because once you know the future you can change it in the present..
why would you want that stuff to happen?
edited= nevermind everyone has their path and what they want to expereince in life.
sad to see, but i must say have fun and enjoy your end times..
lol
i'll be in heaven:)
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PACNWguy
User ID: 688273
11/6/2009 6:10 PM
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In your own post you talk about the Dems having a "small majority" -- btw exactly is that, like a woman being half pregnant.
And yet further down, in the same post, you argue that all the Repubs and many of the Dems are against the bill.
So which is it, do the Dems have enough of a majority to "ram" through the bill in a partisan way, or don' they?
Typical George, I mean PAC, you want to argue both ways, AT THE SAME TIME. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 464288
The marches during the Bush administration were not about congress trying to push through a bill against the majority of the people.
The demonstrations were antiwar and organized by ANSWER and Moveon.org and I say disguised as antiwar as they were only intended to make Bush look bad. Had they been about ending the war in Iraq and Afgan...they would still be going on.
The reality of it is Moveon.org and ANSWER are partisan Democrat political machines.
There have been no antiwar demonstrations since obama was elected.
Democrats have a small margin because nothing can pass without the Senate and they have a one seat majority.
The reference to Dems opposing the bill are all in the House where there is Democrat opposition. Pelosi does not have a 100% support of the congressional Dems or she would already have passed the bill. Now it looks like she is having it moved to Sunday because she cant get enough votes today.
They are beating the shit out of the House dems to get the votes.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 776606
11/6/2009 6:10 PM | | Re: 12 Hours before the Disaster unemployment numbers are released and a day before OBAMACARE vote...A Muslim Terrorist Saves Obama's Ass | Quote |
10.02%, moran 
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PACNWguy
User ID: 688273
11/6/2009 6:11 PM
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pac guy you amaze me..lol
i would love to hear your vision of the future for Humanity on this planet:)
I see nothing out of the ordinary:
SAME SHIT, DIFFERENT DAY
"And you shall hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places."
It will go on forever and a day.
i'm sure that was written by the powers that were..just a little fyi:)
because once you know the future you can change it in the present..
why would you want that stuff to happen?
i know i will be fine, but why would someone want to experience that?
You didnt ask me what I would like to see. YOu asked me what I imagine the future to be.
I dont see anything different than has been different in the past few thousand years.
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PACNWguy
User ID: 688273
11/6/2009 6:16 PM
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And you keep saying the "majority of the people" as if it is the truth.
FACTS, please. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 464288
You want truth? You cant handle the truth....
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 464288
11/6/2009 6:18 PM | | Re: 12 Hours before the Disaster unemployment numbers are released and a day before OBAMACARE vote...A Muslim Terrorist Saves Obama's Ass | Quote |
Democrats have a small margin because nothing can pass without the Senate and they have a one seat majority. Quoting: PACNWguy
Are you talking about the US Senate??
Last I checked, there were 58 Dems and 2 independents who caucus as Dems.
How is that a "one seat majority"?
And let's get back to the Constitution -- where does it say a majority means 60 out of 100? I thought it was 51.
Oh that's right, the Repubs are allowed to pull a bs parliamentary procedure and subvert the will of a majority of Senators. But not the Dems.
(And the will of the citizens btw, even though you continually say, INCORRECTLY, that a majority of citizens are against healthcare reform) |
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PACNWguy
User ID: 688273
11/6/2009 6:31 PM
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Democrats have a small margin because nothing can pass without the Senate and they have a one seat majority.
Are you talking about the US Senate??
Last I checked, there were 58 Dems and 2 independents who caucus as Dems.
How is that a "one seat majority"?
And let's get back to the Constitution -- where does it say a majority means 60 out of 100? I thought it was 51.
Oh that's right, the Repubs are allowed to pull a bs parliamentary procedure and subvert the will of a majority of Senators. But not the Dems.
(And the will of the citizens btw, even though you continually say, INCORRECTLY, that a majority of citizens are against healthcare reform) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 464288
Liberman votes with the Republicans. That leaves one seat.
There is a difference in 51% mob rule democracy and a constitutional republic Spanky.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 464288
11/6/2009 6:40 PM | | Re: 12 Hours before the Disaster unemployment numbers are released and a day before OBAMACARE vote...A Muslim Terrorist Saves Obama's Ass | Quote |
Liberman votes with the Republicans. That leaves one seat.
There is a difference in 51% mob rule democracy and a constitutional republic Spanky. Quoting: PACNWguy
I think you have just exposed your inner stupidity PAC.
Let's go through the math again:
58 Dems
2 independents
40 repubs
58 + 2 + 40 = 100
If Lieberman voted with the repubs, that means:
58 + 1 = 59
59 votes out of 100
How does that "leave one seat"???
You don't really know what you're talking about, just admit it. I promise I won't tell anyone that you don't even understand third grade civics. really, I promise.
And what is the differnece between 51% mob rule and a consitutional republic?? Mob rule would be direct voting, as in a referendum. A constitutional republic elects representatives for the general population.
Please explain how 59 Senators does not represent a majority?? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 464288
11/6/2009 6:47 PM | | Re: 12 Hours before the Disaster unemployment numbers are released and a day before OBAMACARE vote...A Muslim Terrorist Saves Obama's Ass | Quote |
Oh yeah PAC, tell me again why it should take 60 voted to pass the Senate???
You are all for the Constitution and against arcane parliamentary manuevers right?? Strict Constitutionalist right?
Where in the Constitution does it say that 60 is needed for a majority, and not 51??? |
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Rokit5
User ID: 812231
11/6/2009 6:50 PM
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I almost agree with you PAC, except if anything, this was a psy-op with two aims; diverting the news and dividing the country further
If it wasnt for this goat fucker, all the pins would be about the MONSTER 10.2% unemployment numbers released today showing that Unemployment is getting worse by the day with NO end in site.
The Stimulus hasnt created any jobs and we are looking at numbers not seen in 26 years. We were guaranteed that they wouldnt be over 8% if the Simulus passed. Now we are guaranteed they will get worse.
On top of that, Pelosi is pushing for a Obamacare vote today.
Obama didnt say shit about the terrorist because he fucking saved his ass.
Even the Obama network asskissers would be talking about unemployment today.
I bet Obama is trying to figure out a way to pardon his ass and give him a medal.
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TX PATRIOT
User ID: 812116
11/6/2009 6:53 PM | | Re: 12 Hours before the Disaster unemployment numbers are released and a day before OBAMACARE vote...A Muslim Terrorist Saves Obama's Ass | Quote |
Prosecution for what?
FOR passing a bill in a Constitutional manner?
Allow me to correct you, AC:
FOR passing an UNCONSTITUTIONAL bill in a parliamentary manner.
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OK Mr "TX PATRIOT"
Educate me.
tell me precisely what is "un-Constitutional" about the bill, and how is it being passed in a "parliamentary" manner.
Put up or shut up.
Because you really don't know the definitions of any of those terms.
Like George, I mean PAC, you just spout unsubstantiated things you heard on FOX. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 464288
You know, people with such childish attitudes deserve to be fucking horse whipped. However, your quick defensiveness does show your weakness.
Your education:
Enumerated powers for Congress as set forth in the Constitution do not include the power to legislate and mandate citizens to purchase a product and be taxed and criminalized for failure to do so. Health care is not interstate commerce, and an any attempt at regulating it fails the commerce clause in Constitution.
Parliamentary procedure. The rules and structure by which Congress operates. Google it.
Read the Constitution while you are at it. Apparently, it will be a good education for you.
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Rokit5
User ID: 812231
11/6/2009 6:54 PM
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Liberman votes with the Republicans. That leaves one seat.
There is a difference in 51% mob rule democracy and a constitutional republic Spanky.
I think you have just exposed your inner stupidity PAC.
Let's go through the math again:
58 Dems
2 independents
40 repubs
58 + 2 + 40 = 100
If Lieberman voted with the repubs, that means:
58 + 1 = 59
59 votes out of 100
How does that "leave one seat"???
You don't really know what you're talking about, just admit it. I promise I won't tell anyone that you don't even understand third grade civics. really, I promise.
And what is the differnece between 51% mob rule and a consitutional republic?? Mob rule would be direct voting, as in a referendum. A constitutional republic elects representatives for the general population.
Please explain how 59 Senators does not represent a majority?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 464288
I said 'almost agree' in my last post. The above statement shows why I never agree with this crazy bastard!
However, I still think this Air force base malarky was designed to detract from the real news |
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PACNWguy
User ID: 688273
11/6/2009 6:55 PM
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Oh yeah PAC, tell me again why it should take 60 voted to pass the Senate???
You are all for the Constitution and against arcane parliamentary manuevers right?? Strict Constitutionalist right?
Where in the Constitution does it say that 60 is needed for a majority, and not 51??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 464288
It doesnt take 60 votes to pass. It takes 51% to pass. It takes 60 to overcome a fillibuster.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 464288
11/6/2009 6:59 PM | | Re: 12 Hours before the Disaster unemployment numbers are released and a day before OBAMACARE vote...A Muslim Terrorist Saves Obama's Ass | Quote |
Prosecution for what?
FOR passing a bill in a Constitutional manner?
Allow me to correct you, AC:
FOR passing an UNCONSTITUTIONAL bill in a parliamentary manner.
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OK Mr "TX PATRIOT"
Educate me.
tell me precisely what is "un-Constitutional" about the bill, and how is it being passed in a "parliamentary" manner.
Put up or shut up.
Because you really don't know the definitions of any of those terms.
Like George, I mean PAC, you just spout unsubstantiated things you heard on FOX.
You know, people with such childish attitudes deserve to be fucking horse whipped. However, your quick defensiveness does show your weakness.
Your education:
Enumerated powers for Congress as set forth in the Constitution do not include the power to legislate and mandate citizens to purchase a product and be taxed and criminalized for failure to do so. Health care is not interstate commerce, and an any attempt at regulating it fails the commerce clause in Constitution.
Parliamentary procedure. The rules and structure by which Congress operates. Google it.
Read the Constitution while you are at it. Apparently, it will be a good education for you.
. Quoting: TX PATRIOT 812116
Once again, your entitled to your opinion about whether or not the proposed healthcare bill is Constitutional or not, but unfortunately, your opinion DOESN'T MEAN SHIT UNLESS YOU'RE A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE.
And I'll ask you the same question PAC is refusing to answer -- where in the Constitution does it say you need 60 voted to pass a bill through the Senate?
I've read it; surprise, it doesn't say that ANYWHERE.
The reason 60 votes are needed is bc repubs are hiding behind the same parliamentary procedure you claim to oppose. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 464288
11/6/2009 7:01 PM | | Re: 12 Hours before the Disaster unemployment numbers are released and a day before OBAMACARE vote...A Muslim Terrorist Saves Obama's Ass | Quote |
Oh yeah PAC, tell me again why it should take 60 voted to pass the Senate???
You are all for the Constitution and against arcane parliamentary manuevers right?? Strict Constitutionalist right?
Where in the Constitution does it say that 60 is needed for a majority, and not 51???
It doesnt take 60 votes to pass. It takes 51% to pass. It takes 60 to overcome a fillibuster. Quoting: PACNWguy
And a fillibuster is a protected right in the Constitution? |
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PACNWguy
User ID: 688273
11/6/2009 7:06 PM
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Oh yeah PAC, tell me again why it should take 60 voted to pass the Senate???
You are all for the Constitution and against arcane parliamentary manuevers right?? Strict Constitutionalist right?
Where in the Constitution does it say that 60 is needed for a majority, and not 51???
It doesnt take 60 votes to pass. It takes 51% to pass. It takes 60 to overcome a fillibuster.
And a fillibuster is a protected right in the Constitution? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 464288
Apparently or they would have already passed the bill. 
Its as protected as any other senate article of proceedure they have instituted over the years.
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pixie
User ID: 757473
11/6/2009 7:07 PM | | Re: 12 Hours before the Disaster unemployment numbers are released and a day before OBAMACARE vote...A Muslim Terrorist Saves Obama's Ass | Quote |
I believe this was a psych-ops as well. With two agendas.
One to divert and distract the Country's attention once again, from a failing Health Care Reform Bill; as is always a diversionary distraction regarding obama blunders.
And the second agenda can be more than just to divide The Country, but also to ignite Israel. And the 20,000 people who marched on Washington got lost amidst this shooting.
Though I don't know how significant that march was; would seem any protest of opposition, any uniting of The American People against the government's policies would always be significant ... But just my take on all of it.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 464288
11/6/2009 7:07 PM | | Re: 12 Hours before the Disaster unemployment numbers are released and a day before OBAMACARE vote...A Muslim Terrorist Saves Obama's Ass | Quote |
And Uncle PAC, you forgot to explain how the Dems have a "one seat majority". |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 464288
11/6/2009 7:10 PM | | Re: 12 Hours before the Disaster unemployment numbers are released and a day before OBAMACARE vote...A Muslim Terrorist Saves Obama's Ass | Quote |
Oh yeah PAC, tell me again why it should take 60 voted to pass the Senate???
You are all for the Constitution and against arcane parliamentary manuevers right?? Strict Constitutionalist right?
Where in the Constitution does it say that 60 is needed for a majority, and not 51???
It doesnt take 60 votes to pass. It takes 51% to pass. It takes 60 to overcome a fillibuster.
And a fillibuster is a protected right in the Constitution?
Apparently or they would have already passed the bill.
Its as protected as any other senate article of proceedure they have instituted over the years.
It sooo emabrassing to be boxed in by your own argument, isnt it PAC?
You're a strict constitutionalist PAC right?
Except when that is not convenient for your argument. Now you're equating procedural rules with the Constitution? What, is it all of a sudden a living breathing document? |
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Bluebird
User ID: 730536
11/6/2009 7:10 PM
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The bill needs 60 votes because it increases the federal deficit.
Steve Benen explains:
The measure now moves to the Senate, which is expected to pass the package tonight. Reader G.S. emailed this morning to ask why the bill needs 60 votes, instead of 51. That's a good question. In this case, it's not a Republican filibuster that necessitates a super-majority; it's Senate rules relating to bills that will increase the budget deficit.
The bill will be subject to a point of order due to its deficit spending, but the point of order can be waived by a 3/5 vote of the Senate. So that means passage would ultimately have required 60 votes whether Republicans filibustered or not. |
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PACNWguy
User ID: 688273
11/6/2009 7:15 PM
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And Uncle PAC, you forgot to explain how the Dems have a "one seat majority". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 464288
Listen kids,,,I was talking about their ability to move a bill to the floor without any opposition.
You are absolutley right,,,dems have a big majority once the bill is up for vote on the floor.
You can let it die. I bow to your superior intellect.
You can run and tell your mom.
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I kinda hope they pass the fucker, I really do.
5 years in prison if you dont buy a policy. Yeah right.
There will be such a backlash against the Dems that the country has ever witnessed.
They will be hunting Dems with dogs and the entire fucking bill will be rescended with the first act of the new president in January of 2013.
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TX PATRIOT
User ID: 812116
11/6/2009 7:20 PM | | Re: 12 Hours before the Disaster unemployment numbers are released and a day before OBAMACARE vote...A Muslim Terrorist Saves Obama's Ass | Quote |
Once again, your entitled to your opinion about whether or not the proposed healthcare bill is Constitutional or not, but unfortunately, your opinion DOESN'T MEAN SHIT UNLESS YOU'RE A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 464288
YOU are the one who asked for my response, dumbass. Holy shit, you are a desperate one...to the point of being absurd.
And I'll ask you the same question PAC is refusing to answer -- where in the Constitution does it say you need 60 voted to pass a bill through the Senate?
I've read it; surprise, it doesn't say that ANYWHERE.
The reason 60 votes are needed is bc repubs are hiding behind the same parliamentary procedure you claim to oppose. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 464288
Oh, so you switch topics with me after you are exposed. Please kid. PAC might have the time to waste on you and your puerile games but I certainly don't.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 464288
11/6/2009 7:22 PM | | Re: 12 Hours before the Disaster unemployment numbers are released and a day before OBAMACARE vote...A Muslim Terrorist Saves Obama's Ass | Quote |
The bill needs 60 votes because it increases the federal deficit.
Steve Benen explains:
The measure now moves to the Senate, which is expected to pass the package tonight. Reader G.S. emailed this morning to ask why the bill needs 60 votes, instead of 51. That's a good question. In this case, it's not a Republican filibuster that necessitates a super-majority; it's Senate rules relating to bills that will increase the budget deficit.
The bill will be subject to a point of order due to its deficit spending, but the point of order can be waived by a 3/5 vote of the Senate. So that means passage would ultimately have required 60 votes whether Republicans filibustered or not. Quoting: Bluebird
I'm not sure where to start.
I guess the beginning:
the CBO has judged the healthcare bill in the House and the two in the Senate DO NOT add to the deficit.
Same argument with the rest of your "explanation" -- tell me where fillibuster is protected in the Constitution. A rule of the Senate could theoretically be changed tomorrow. Like when the repubs threatened to do so to get their judges through.
once again, it was OK when the repubs were thinking about it. |
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PACNWguy
User ID: 688273
11/6/2009 7:23 PM
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PAC might have the time to waste on you and your puerile games but I certainly don't.
. Quoting: TX PATRIOT 812116
No, actually I dont. Gotta take off now.
Have a nice evening TX
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