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What is the NWO Conspiracist's take on Abraham Lincoln?

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Anonymous Coward
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11/7/2009 1:32 AM
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What is the NWO Conspiracist's take on Abraham Lincoln?

I always admired Lincoln especially after reading James McPherson's book Battle Cry of Freedom. He was a man that no one liked, including Northerners, yet he had the balls to make sacrifices to do what he thought was right despite what people thought. He was also a pragmatist and not blinded by ideology.

As a Libertarian however I find it difficult to justify the fact that he abused his power somewhat by doing such things as suspending the Writ of Habeas Corpus.

On the other hand he was smart enough to let Congress start printing their own money rather than relying on a crooked central bank.

He did end up abolishing slavery and giving rights to people who had none. And he was also smart enough to realize that it was not in the best interest of the country to punish the South after the war.

I find myself more and more in favor of state's rights these days but I can't justify the south's position on this one.

I'm just curious what the NWO Conspiracist's take on Lincoln is?

Bad guy for increasing the power of the Federal Government and abusing power?

Or good guy for the aforementioned positive things he did?

ChildofGod
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11/7/2009 1:34 AM

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Lincoln's reign is where this country's decline started.

Anonymous Coward
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11/7/2009 1:36 AM

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States should be able to leave the union at will (whether for just reasons or not). That's the only way to keep the federal pigs from getting too powermad like we have now.

Anonymous Coward
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11/7/2009 1:41 AM

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Yeah that is the irony. I always admired Lincoln yet now I find myself supporting the idea of secession more and more.

Anonymous Coward
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11/7/2009 1:49 AM

Re: What is the NWO Conspiracist's take on Abraham Lincoln?

Lincoln teed up the ball for reconstruction and that had very little to do with emancipation.
Goodbye freedom
Hello 14th Amendment U.S. Citizenship.
Once that was crammed down the throats of the several states/countries, the frog was in the pot, lit, and the heat was turned up only a half a click each year. Barely noticeable. In fact, they actually had people hopping in the pot left and right! Voluntarily of course...
Was only a matter of time till they were having generations worth of frogs for supper....all they could eat.

Videobarbs
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11/8/2009 3:26 PM

Re: What is the NWO Conspiracist's take on Abraham Lincoln?

Lincoln's reign is where this country's decline started.

Quoting: ChildofGod

I agree and the Civil War (1861-1865) was America's first MODERN war. Just think of it, Gatling guns were used for the first time on our soil (they were a precursor to the machine gun.)
But, it's not about armaments, it was all about going up against the Rothschild family of Europe and as the poster pointed out, the nefarious central banks. There were other economic and trade factors in the war and of course, with cotton the chief commodity of the South, the deck was stacked against them with the Northern steel mills and other factories for pumping out military and war related equipment.
The abolition of slavery is/was really something of a "red herring" and Lincoln and the others knew it was a great cover. While the Negro population received many benefits through the war(including 40 acres and a mule to go west)as well as voting rights for their men, it would be another fifty-five years before women got the vote.
States rights have been demonized in the subsequent 150 years since the Civil War and linked to segregationists, KKK, etc. While those things are true and so very nasty in their own right, our founding fathers believed in states' rights as a way of fighting a strong central government and central bank - the very things we have today.
Look at the stories on cities with the largest job growth - guess what? One of the top ones is Washington D.C. Through neglect and dereliction of duty by all of us Americans, we have allowed the very form of government those 18th century leaders warned us about. It is a monster and wait until the national health care crap kicks in and you'll see what a cruel monster this mega oligarchical government is. There is a reason some of the wealthiest Americans are moving themselves and their families to other countries. They see what's coming.
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