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The real men that stared at goats
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Annonomysy scared guy
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11/7/2009 2:07 AM
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Men who stare at goats...anyone following the real story?
There are real people involved. And its not a comedy at all. Has anyone expressed the true story behind this? Or is it all a big ha ha now? WFT? real people and families were hurt because of a real goverment program. What are the real peoples story? |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/7/2009 2:14 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
What are the real peoples story? |
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scared coward, according to th
User ID: 812469 (OP)
11/7/2009 2:27 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
Their story is extrodanary. I wish I had permission to use names...But I don't. Still, you can do your own research and discover much. Its one of those things that isn't completely covered up so much yet, that you can't find some links and some names.
Just saying. .............."They are watching me, closely here". |
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Art Deco 
Cheers!
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11/7/2009 2:41 AM
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If you haven't read it, the book is pretty good.
In ten years we'll look back on this moment, laugh nervously, and quickly change the subject. |
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Aussie
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11/7/2009 2:50 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
Their story is extrodanary. I wish I had permission to use names...But I don't. Still, you can do your own research and discover much. Its one of those things that isn't completely covered up so much yet, that you can't find some links and some names.
Just saying. .............."They are watching me, closely here". Quoting: scared coward, according to th 812469
could still tell the story without the actual names. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 812007
11/7/2009 2:52 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
~Just saying. .............."They are watching me, closely here".~
The Men Who Stare at Goats (2004) is a book by Jon Ronson about the U.S. Army's exploration of New Age concepts and the potential military applications of the paranormal. The title refers to attempts to kill goats by staring at them.
The movie based on the book, starring George Clooney, was released in Autumn 2009 by Winchester Films, BBC Films and Mandate Pictures. Grant Heslov directed from a script by Peter Straughan. Ewan McGregor, Kevin Spacey, Jeff Bridges and Robert Patrick starred opposite Clooney.
The movie is set in Iraq and filmed in Comerío Street, Bayamón, Puerto Rico and the New Mexico Military Institute and centers on Bob Wilton (Ewan McGregor), a desperate reporter who stumbles upon the story of a lifetime when he meets Lyn Cassady (Clooney), who claims to be a former secret U.S. Military psychic soldier re-activated post-9/11. Bridges plays Bill Django, the founder of the psychic soldier program and Lyn's mentor. Spacey plays Larry Hooper, a former psychic soldier who is running a prison camp in Iraq'
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Review of Jon Ronsons book(from the New York Times)
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The start of the twisted treasure hunt that is "The Men Who Stare at Goats," the journalist Jon Ronson appears to be looking for furtive, paranoid quacks who play mind games. He seems to have hit the mother lode.
Take the goats of the title: Mr. Ronson cites a hundred of them. He says that they have been hidden at a Goat Lab at Fort Bragg in North Carolina and de-bleated for security reasons.
They have been used in top-secret experiments by psychic spies whose existence is not officially acknowledged by the United States Army. Military psychics are so well hidden that they aren't covered by the Army's coffee budget. It makes them cranky to have to bring their own coffee to work.
"The damn psychic spies should be keeping their damn mouths shut, instead of chitchatting all over town about what they did." So says retired Maj. Gen. Albert N. Stubblebine III, the first of the many characters redolent of "Dr. Strangelove" who are found in this jaw-dropper of a - hard to believe, but, yes - nonfiction story.
Some of these experts contend that a goat's heart can be stopped by the intense gaze of a certain kind of supersoldier. "Goat didn't have a chance," one of these tough guys tells Mr. Ronson. Such fighters sometimes refer to themselves as Jedi Warriors, because the thinking about their occult superpowers dates back to early "Star Wars" days. It was then that the post-Vietnam military, demoralized and fiscally hamstrung, was ready to try anything in the way of intangible new weaponry.
Mr. Ronson sets his book up beautifully. It moves with wry, precise agility from crackpot to crackpot in its search for the essence of this early New Age creativity. Much of it can be traced to the 1977 fact-finding mission of Lt. Col. Jim Channon, now also retired but given credit for an influential legacy.
It was Colonel Channon's 125-page "First Earth Battalion Operations Manual" that suggested a whole new approach to combat and a whole new type of military uniform. According to Colonel Channon's plan, soldiers' uniforms should include pouches for ginseng regulators, divining tools and loudspeakers that would emit "indigenous music and words of peace." The author's explorations also take him to one soldier of fortune who died after "acting too big for his boots regarding his superhuman powers," and to a New Age company alleged to be dealing in both healing bars (costing $7,600 and resembling blocks of soap) and group sex ("Don't tell your husband because he wouldn't understand the energy work").
Then there are the double agents supposedly operating within the flying saucer set. "The U.F.O. community?" the author asks one source. "Why would government spies want to infiltrate that?"
"Oh, Jon," the source tells him, delivering the kind of swift punch line that makes this book so entertaining. "Don't be naïve."
At this point, "The Men Who Stare at Goats" still concentrates on quirks, making it a smarter, nuttier version of "The Tipping Point" or "Blink." But then it moves into a different realm. While Colonel Channon was asserting that the military should be "unafraid to appear harebrained and half-baked in their pursuit of a new kind of weapon," a parallel and less theoretical set of experiments was unfolding. And Mr. Ronson addresses the more sinister aspect of out-of-the-box military thinking.
"The Men Who Stare at Goats" turns into a book that connects dots. It sees a common thread in the use of screamingly bad music to assault Gen. Manuel Antonio Noriega in Panama and the use of similar tactics in the destruction of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Tex. In these accounts, Mr. Ronson writes as much about schemes that were only contemplated as about the ones that actually made the cut.
For instance, he describes the effort to deploy a Moscow scientist who had previously sent subliminal messages to Red Army troops ("Do not get drunk before battle") in the Branch Davidian standoff. This scientist didn't work out because he was unwilling to transmit words spoken by Charlton Heston as a bogus voice of God.
Mr. Ronson, a filmmaker and journalist whose earlier book, "Them: Adventures With Extremists," was also outstandingly artful and chilling, eventually follows his trail of bread crumbs to the realms that really matter. He finds a prologue in MK-ULTRA, the real C.I.A. "Manchurian Candidate" research of the 1950's, which involved the disastrous use of LSD as a potential truth serum. He follows this line of thinking through and beyond the fruitcake innovations of the 1970's, concluding that Colonel Channon's theories "could be used to shatter people rather than heal them."
"Those are the ideas that live on in the War on Terror," he adds.
Inevitably, this account extends to the tactics of American guards at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. And somehow Mr. Ronson is able to keep his book both light and nightmarish. (Asked if there was a single good thing to be said about the prison, one former guard says it was an address to which Amazon.com delivered.)
Absurdity is never far away. Discussing the weird tricks played on prisoners in both Iraq and Cuba, he finds the English journalist Martin Bashir interviewing one former captive. Mr. Bashir asks whether the prisoner saw his now-notorious Michael Jackson documentary. "Jamal replied, 'I've, uh, been in Guantánamo Bay for two years.' "
Mr. Ronson, who lives in London and exclaims the occasional "bloody hell" at these discoveries, remains terrifically adept at capturing the horror of these developments without losing track of their lunacy. About propaganda dropped from airplanes: "The Americans have always been better than the Iraqis at the leaflets." Early in the 1991 Persian Gulf war, he says, Iraqi psychological warfare meant telling American soldiers: "Your wives are back at home having sex with Bart Simpson and Burt Reynolds."
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Is any of the above close to the truth or has it been sanitized and dry cleaned? (nod yes or no if you can't answer) |
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ShadowDancer
User ID: 287857
11/7/2009 9:34 AM
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it is far worst than goats...
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"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
~Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
There is little gain in attempting to change external conditions, you must first change the core of inner beliefs, naturally outer conditions will change accordingly.
BECOME it to achieve it.
Wisdom strengthened the wise more than ten mighty men which are in the city. Ecclesiastes 7:19
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Does the shadow appear to be growing darker? The light that is casting shadows is becoming much brighter; in utter darkness it is luminous. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 772993
11/7/2009 9:35 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
Sounds like a Scottish love story |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 812648
11/7/2009 9:39 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
making a joke about reality.
just like all these movies about aliens, and now 2012.
keep the sheople laughing as they fall off the cliff..... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 811809
11/7/2009 9:41 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
My,my.
www.duncanofinioan.com |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 739402
11/7/2009 9:47 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
If you haven't read it, the book is pretty good. Quoting: Art Deco
I read the book the other day
A1,interesting and funny as hell,as for remote viewing you can really do it,but you can be misled by false theories,the NWO muddy the waters |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 793418
11/7/2009 9:47 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
If they use their powers on people (as I'm sure that's the purpose for the research) they can also stop the hearts and kill them. How many have already been killed? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 739402
11/7/2009 9:50 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
If they use their powers on people (as I'm sure that's the purpose for the research) they can also stop the hearts and kill them. How many have already been killed? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 793418
The pure of heart cant be effected,it only works on some (not all)
These powers are what that heros thread is about |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 811809
11/7/2009 9:52 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
The pure of heart cant be effected,it only works on some (not all)  |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 739402
11/7/2009 9:52 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
The pure of heart cant be effected,it only works on some (not all)
yeah but you lack faith
atheists = BLIND |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 811809
11/7/2009 9:59 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
The pure of heart cant be effected,it only works on some (not all)
yeah but you lack faith
atheists = BLIND
You stupid fuck.
Did I say I was an atheists?? NO! I did not.
Would you like to offer yourself up as a test subject? Test that love and light bullshit faith of yours?? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 793418
11/7/2009 10:02 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
If they use their powers on people (as I'm sure that's the purpose for the research) they can also stop the hearts and kill them. How many have already been killed?
The pure of heart cant be effected,it only works on some (not all)
These powers are what that heros thread is about Quoting: Anonymous Coward 739402
It's still wrong to kill people, and it's not up them to decide who should live or die. Bastards. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 380667
11/7/2009 10:05 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
If they use their powers on people (as I'm sure that's the purpose for the research) they can also stop the hearts and kill them. How many have already been killed?
The pure of heart cant be effected,it only works on some (not all)
These powers are what that heros thread is about Quoting: Anonymous Coward 739402
As a christian, I have a similiar belief; and that is that since I pray every day for God's protection, this cannot
harm me. My God is all powerful and all he has to do is have a thought, and it can come into being. The goat thing, on the other hand--much energy goes into the thought of killing something or someone...from a christian perspective, this is pure evil. So someone can kill someone or something with the use of thought--how commendable. Big deal. I believe the forces of good are more powerful than the forces of evil and hate. This concept of being able to do things; supernatural things with one's mind is NOTHING NEW. It's just that the elite
want to bring it to the mainstream for those who have no clue and who do not know. The pure of heart who are covered
in Jesus' protection cannot be affected. If you don't have that, you certainly CAN be affected. We fight not against flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities.
Christians know what I'm talking about. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 811809
11/7/2009 10:09 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
If they use their powers on people (as I'm sure that's the purpose for the research) they can also stop the hearts and kill them. How many have already been killed?
The pure of heart cant be effected,it only works on some (not all)
These powers are what that heros thread is about
As a christian, I have a similiar belief; and that is that since I pray every day for God's protection, this cannot
harm me. My God is all powerful and all he has to do is have a thought, and it can come into being. The goat thing, on the other hand--much energy goes into the thought of killing something or someone...from a christian perspective, this is pure evil. So someone can kill someone or something with the use of thought--how commendable. Big deal. I believe the forces of good are more powerful than the forces of evil and hate. This concept of being able to do things; supernatural things with one's mind is NOTHING NEW. It's just that the elite
want to bring it to the mainstream for those who have no clue and who do not know. The pure of heart who are covered
in Jesus' protection cannot be affected. If you don't have that, you certainly CAN be affected. We fight not against flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities.
Christians know what I'm talking about. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380667
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 793418
11/7/2009 10:12 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
If they use their powers on people (as I'm sure that's the purpose for the research) they can also stop the hearts and kill them. How many have already been killed?
The pure of heart cant be effected,it only works on some (not all)
These powers are what that heros thread is about
As a christian, I have a similiar belief; and that is that since I pray every day for God's protection, this cannot
harm me. My God is all powerful and all he has to do is have a thought, and it can come into being. The goat thing, on the other hand--much energy goes into the thought of killing something or someone...from a christian perspective, this is pure evil. So someone can kill someone or something with the use of thought--how commendable. Big deal. I believe the forces of good are more powerful than the forces of evil and hate. This concept of being able to do things; supernatural things with one's mind is NOTHING NEW. It's just that the elite
want to bring it to the mainstream for those who have no clue and who do not know. The pure of heart who are covered
in Jesus' protection cannot be affected. If you don't have that, you certainly CAN be affected. We fight not against flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities.
Christians know what I'm talking about. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380667
Not all Chrisitans are pure in heart. A belief cannot protect them if they are not living up to those beliefs. Or if they are not aware that they are under attack and allow their defenses to slip through the distractions of everyday life. Anyone can be attacked.
Be aware of your guarding angels and keep them close. Thank them for their service and be appreciative. |
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Talking Owl
---> home wrecker <---
User ID: 11574
11/7/2009 10:16 AM
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The pure of heart cant be effected,it only works on some (not all)
yeah but you lack faith
atheists = BLIND
You stupid fuck.
Did I say I was an atheists?? NO! I did not.
Would you like to offer yourself up as a test subject? Test that love and light bullshit faith of yours??
How come we don't hear of the program where they stared at goats until they achieved orgasm not death?
Religion is 100% reusable.
"Good Queen Sarah, protect us from the Black Dog King"
- from the play, Dissocia |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 812648
11/7/2009 10:17 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
keep your shield up.
your higher self/inner power.
reflect attacks back to sender. |
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emerald_glow
User ID: 379016
11/7/2009 1:20 PM
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keep your shield up.
your higher self/inner power.
reflect attacks back to sender. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 812648
+ 1 more: if you have abilities like this - resist the temptation to show them off. Keep the discovery for yourself.
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Machobird
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11/7/2009 2:03 PM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
Here's a clue given to you by AC 811809. How many of you went to Ofinioan's webpage?? Well do it now!!
[link to duncanofinioan.com]
Or see his interview with Camelot. This stuff really happened. Works on humans, too.
[link to www.youtube.com]
Thanks, 811809
machobird
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 811809
11/7/2009 9:41 AM Re: The real men that stared at goats Quote
My,my.
www.duncanofinioan.com |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 334323
11/9/2009 1:51 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
I know Jim personally and have heard many of the stories, real as he tells it, and they are impressive. The idea being greater than the man and his time, it has and will continue to evolve to his vision and beyond. From Hawaii, with love. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 769657
11/9/2009 1:53 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
Their wives made them sleep outside. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 814204
11/9/2009 10:15 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
Here's a clue given to you by AC 811809. How many of you went to Ofinioan's webpage?? Well do it now!!
[ link to duncanofinioan.com]
Or see his interview with Camelot. This stuff really happened. Works on humans, too.
[ link to www.youtube.com]
Thanks, 811809
machobird
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 811809
11/7/2009 9:41 AM Re: The real men that stared at goats Quote
My,my.
www.duncanofinioan.com
I dunno know about the looking at goats but he is one strong sob. |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/9/2009 10:25 AM | |
Wingedlion
Wingedlion
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11/9/2009 10:25 AM
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If they use their powers on people (as I'm sure that's the purpose for the research) they can also stop the hearts and kill them. How many have already been killed?
The pure of heart cant be effected,it only works on some (not all)
These powers are what that heros thread is about
As a christian, I have a similiar belief; and that is that since I pray every day for God's protection, this cannot
harm me. My God is all powerful and all he has to do is have a thought, and it can come into being. The goat thing, on the other hand--much energy goes into the thought of killing something or someone...from a christian perspective, this is pure evil. So someone can kill someone or something with the use of thought--how commendable. Big deal. I believe the forces of good are more powerful than the forces of evil and hate. This concept of being able to do things; supernatural things with one's mind is NOTHING NEW. It's just that the elite
want to bring it to the mainstream for those who have no clue and who do not know. The pure of heart who are covered
in Jesus' protection cannot be affected. If you don't have that, you certainly CAN be affected. We fight not against flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities.
Christians know what I'm talking about. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380667
Yeah, the people who were the "real" psychic warriors were all Nephilim. Seek the Lord to train you in spiritual warfare before trying to tangle with one though. They are strong, but they are not stronger than the Lord God who abides within you. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 814204
11/9/2009 10:37 AM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
If they use their powers on people (as I'm sure that's the purpose for the research) they can also stop the hearts and kill them. How many have already been killed?
The pure of heart cant be effected,it only works on some (not all)
These powers are what that heros thread is about
As a christian, I have a similiar belief; and that is that since I pray every day for God's protection, this cannot
harm me. My God is all powerful and all he has to do is have a thought, and it can come into being. The goat thing, on the other hand--much energy goes into the thought of killing something or someone...from a christian perspective, this is pure evil. So someone can kill someone or something with the use of thought--how commendable. Big deal. I believe the forces of good are more powerful than the forces of evil and hate. This concept of being able to do things; supernatural things with one's mind is NOTHING NEW. It's just that the elite
want to bring it to the mainstream for those who have no clue and who do not know. The pure of heart who are covered
in Jesus' protection cannot be affected. If you don't have that, you certainly CAN be affected. We fight not against flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities.
Christians know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, the people who were the "real" psychic warriors were all Nephilim. Seek the Lord to train you in spiritual warfare before trying to tangle with one though. They are strong, but they are not stronger than the Lord God who abides within you. Quoting: Wingedlion
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 750530
11/9/2009 9:50 PM | | Re: The real men that stared at goats | Quote |
If they use their powers on people (as I'm sure that's the purpose for the research) they can also stop the hearts and kill them. How many have already been killed?
The pure of heart cant be effected,it only works on some (not all)
These powers are what that heros thread is about
As a christian, I have a similiar belief; and that is that since I pray every day for God's protection, this cannot
harm me. My God is all powerful and all he has to do is have a thought, and it can come into being. The goat thing, on the other hand--much energy goes into the thought of killing something or someone...from a christian perspective, this is pure evil. So someone can kill someone or something with the use of thought--how commendable. Big deal. I believe the forces of good are more powerful than the forces of evil and hate. This concept of being able to do things; supernatural things with one's mind is NOTHING NEW. It's just that the elite
want to bring it to the mainstream for those who have no clue and who do not know. The pure of heart who are covered
in Jesus' protection cannot be affected. If you don't have that, you certainly CAN be affected. We fight not against flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities.
Christians know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, the people who were the "real" psychic warriors were all Nephilim. Seek the Lord to train you in spiritual warfare before trying to tangle with one though. They are strong, but they are not stronger than the Lord God who abides within you. Quoting: Wingedlion
I Agree |
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