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So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers?
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 812676
11/7/2009 11:23 AM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
Get some strippers to do it
It's chilly in SF today...They probably won't wear bikinis while working.
Then have them wear short skirts so you can look up them while they climb the ladder.
I could just pull up a patio chair, with some brandy, and enjoy the view!
See thats the damn problem. While 3 are cleaning the gutters you are in the house with the best looking one. |
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j.
User ID: 812628
11/7/2009 11:59 AM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
Always hire.
They make money, you don't go to the hospital.
I'm looking for someone to remove a ton of oak leaves off in acre of property. Unfortunately it's hilly and rocky and slippery...my landlord is crazy. Says I have to remove the leaves atmy expense (physical opr financial)..I'm a 55 year old woman with a sprained knee- which I sprained on the rocky slope up to the house. I need freakin' cleats and a ski pole out here.
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Why do the leaves have to be removed? They are a natural part of the landscape. Is ther some local law about it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 793418
No, I'm way out in the country.
Landlord just doesn't want the property to appear 'unkempt'.
And the trees are thick, all oaks and there's a 7" deep blanket of leaves over everything, underneath that is a layer of huge acorns and rocks.. It's dangerous walking. And the acorns, jeeze! I got pelted everytime I stepped outside.
Oh yeah... if I DO get the leaves raked up, wtf would I do with them? It would be a massive amount.
I'll sweep off the rocky path leading to house. That's it.
Landlord's coming by Monday morning to see how things are going.
LOL...good luck finding the driveway.
He's crazy. |
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hawk8414
User ID: 750680
11/7/2009 12:08 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
I have a 2-story house. About 25 feet to the top gutter, and it'll take me all day, plus I'll probably fall.
Thinking of getting about 4 or 5 day laborers over at Lowe's to do it in a few hours for a couple hundred $$.
Opinions? Quoting: pud
You're lazy,pud, get your sorry ass out there and do it yourself. just be careful. Jees, no wonder you can't get a woman,you need a momma.
Heavily medicated for your safety! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713455
11/7/2009 12:09 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
I've cleaned hundreds of gutters. It's one of the value-added services we provide.
If the roof isn't too steep to walk on, then take a blower up there and you'll be done in 15 minutes.
If it's not walkable, then move the ladder around the perimeter and clean eight-foot sections at a time - either by hand (with a glove!), or with some kind of implement (a spade attached to a stick.) This should take an hour at most. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713455
11/7/2009 12:17 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
We use medium-sized trash bags to contain the debris. Just take a bag up the ladder with you and fill it up. You could fill ten bags depending on how much debris. Use the debris for compost.
Stick a hose down the downspouts to unclog them.
A blower makes clean-up a breeze at the end. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713455
11/7/2009 12:22 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
It's only dangerous if you're fat, clumsy, or lack balance and sure-footedness. So that's like 95% of American males?
I dance around on a 40-degree pitch like it's nothing. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 785568
11/7/2009 12:23 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
being you I would wait for some Katrina or Ida to come and wash it properly  |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713455
11/7/2009 12:24 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
Oh, and you suckers love to pay us $250 for 15 minutes work. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 798927
11/7/2009 12:25 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
Do it yourself. Use the money you save on beer and weed and order a pizza. Sounds pretty simple to me. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713455
11/7/2009 12:37 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
One caveat, though. Metal roofs are a completely different animal. I busted my ass once. Be very careful on metal roofs. Just stay on the ladder unless the metal roof is virtually flat.
If you have cheap shingles, you'll find a deep layer of shingle gravel in your gutters. Just leave it unless it's obstructing the flow.
OK, you're all set! Don't die! |
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ANONYMOUS
User ID: 812244
11/7/2009 12:39 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
REMOVE THE GUTTER OR CUT DOWN THE TREES.. END OF PROBLEM . DO NOT HIRE DAY WORKERS..THEY KNOW WHERE U LIVE AND ROBBERIES WERE LATER DONE BY TEMP WORKERS. HAPPENS ALOT.. The rich florida couple who was killed did have soeone install the security alarm system by a major security company and he was part of the planned robberie group, but he backed out of the robberie at the last minute.. one of the groupof men who did rob and killed the couple, had worked for the couple a few times doing yard work i believe.... the rich couple had adopted the group of kids who were all disabled ..approx 8 adopted kids they lived in a huge mansion.. the robbers took the safe oytta the wall within minutes ..the couple was shot and killed .... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 808999
11/7/2009 12:40 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
Do you hire someone to wipe your ass? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 808999
11/7/2009 12:41 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
He's out rewarding illegals. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713455
11/7/2009 12:48 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
If I were a nefarious-minded person, I could have a field day with the rich but foolish clientele we serve. But fortunately, I'm smart enough to realize that a few thousand dollars is not worth any time in jail. Plus I'm just too nice to do that.
People are idiots. Even the ones who make six-figures. Big Time.
I've been inside peoples' homes working as a complete stranger and they leave. As in drive away and come back later. |
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mopar28m 
Acts 2:46
User ID: 731040
11/7/2009 12:51 PM
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anonymous
User ID: 812244
11/7/2009 12:55 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
get rid of gutters or trees for permanant solution.. hire neighborhood teens and supervise them well. at least you know where live. |
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Wraithwynd
User ID: 717743
11/7/2009 12:55 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
If you hire anyone and they do anything on your property and they do not have insurance for the job, then you are responsible. Things like Workman's comp, Property insurance, etc should be had by any 'contractor' who does any work for you, this way should any accident take place it is not you who has to pay for it.
Sadly the law is such if anyone slips and falls on your front lawn while walking by your house, they can now sue YOU.
Since gutters are there and always will be there to clean, you might want to seriously consider getting new gutters with those flip top leaf screens, or one of the newer types that allow the leaves to flow off the roof/gutter while capturing the water. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713455
11/7/2009 12:56 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
The hardest part for him will be setting up and moving the 28' extension ladder. Easy once you've developed the muscles and technique, but very difficult if you haven't. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713455
11/7/2009 12:59 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
The screens suck people. Trust me. Debris finds it's way in. It always does. And now you have screens making it a pain in the ass to get the debris out.
The one system that appears to work is fully-enclosed except for a thin lip along the length which catches water but not debris. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 795440
11/7/2009 1:09 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
My cousin fell off a ladder doing that- ended up out of work for months. Hire somebody. |
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anonymous
User ID: 812244
11/7/2009 1:28 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
sell it first ..then rent a monthly motel room with kichen and get a condo at forclosure auction... freedom from outside work issues .. yes we can. and at bargain price .. |
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9teen.47™
Time is short.
User ID: 812726
11/7/2009 1:44 PM
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Always hire.
They make money, you don't go to the hospital.
I'm looking for someone to remove a ton of oak leaves off in acre of property. Unfortunately it's hilly and rocky and slippery...my landlord is crazy. Says I have to remove the leaves atmy expense (physical opr financial)..I'm a 55 year old woman with a sprained knee- which I sprained on the rocky slope up to the house. I need freakin' cleats and a ski pole out here.
Why do the leaves have to be removed? They are a natural part of the landscape. Is ther some local law about it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 793418
Is there something in the lease that says you have to remove them?
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobaccos worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 786927
11/7/2009 2:00 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
The screens suck people. Trust me. Debris finds it's way in. It always does. And now you have screens making it a pain in the ass to get the debris out.
The one system that appears to work is fully-enclosed except for a thin lip along the length which catches water but not debris. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 713455
Have you tried one that works?
I've read pros and cons about all of them.
I want to get guards that are reasonably priced and work.
Any info helpful
thanks |
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j.2
User ID: 812860
11/7/2009 2:26 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
Always hire.
They make money, you don't go to the hospital.
I'm looking for someone to remove a ton of oak leaves off in acre of property. Unfortunately it's hilly and rocky and slippery...my landlord is crazy. Says I have to remove the leaves atmy expense (physical opr financial)..I'm a 55 year old woman with a sprained knee- which I sprained on the rocky slope up to the house. I need freakin' cleats and a ski pole out here.
Why do the leaves have to be removed? They are a natural part of the landscape. Is ther some local law about it?
Is there something in the lease that says you have to remove them? Quoting: 9teen.47™
No, I'm way out in the country.
Landlord just doesn't want the property to appear 'unkempt'.
And the trees are thick, all oaks and there's a 7" deep blanket of leaves over everything, underneath that is a layer of huge acorns and rocks.. It's dangerous walking. And the acorns, jeeze! I got pelted everytime I stepped outside.
Oh yeah... if I DO get the leaves raked up, wtf would I do with them? It would be a massive amount.
I'll sweep off the rocky path leading to house. That's it.
Landlord's coming by Monday morning to see how things are going.
LOL...good luck finding the driveway.
He's crazy. |
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pud
User ID: 743297
11/7/2009 5:43 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
Well...all done!
I hired 4 day laborers from Lowe's. I was surprised how few were out there. It used to be PACKED with them, but not today..maybe because I came a little later..not sure..
The "leader" of the four (Luis) negotiated a price with me. (I'm usually a tough negotiator, however, it's not like this was a several thousand dollar deal, so I wasn't too tough on him.) We agreed on $350 + lunch. (I ordered 3 pizzas from Pizza Hut, and let them have my beer at home.)
They worked damn hard! Finished in about 1 hr. 45 min. They had obviously done this many times before, and were very nice guys. I chatted with Luis a little, learned he and the other 3 workers share a place with their families..sounds cramp, and uncomfortable.
Anyway, I told them I'd try and find them when I needed other things done, and they seemed very happy with that .
Overall, I rate an A experience! 
Thanks for all the help, friends!
pudofglp@gmail.com |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 656642
11/7/2009 7:04 PM | |
pud
User ID: 743297
11/7/2009 7:08 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 656642
Seamless gutters are certainly an option, I'm getting sick of worrying about this every year. I also like that robotic gutter cleaner, I posted a link to, a page back.
I'm not pro-illegal immigrant, however, I am pro-'fellow man', and as long as they're trying to better themselves, I'm okay with helping them out. The ones not working, and abusing our welfare system, make me angry.
Last Edited by pud on 11/7/2009 at 7:08 PM
pudofglp@gmail.com |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 656642
11/7/2009 7:09 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
Well...all done!
I hired 4 day laborers from Lowe's. I was surprised how few were out there. It used to be PACKED with them, but not today..maybe because I came a little later..not sure..
The "leader" of the four (Luis) negotiated a price with me. (I'm usually a tough negotiator, however, it's not like this was a several thousand dollar deal, so I wasn't too tough on him.) We agreed on $350 + lunch. (I ordered 3 pizzas from Pizza Hut, and let them have my beer at home.)
They worked damn hard! Finished in about 1 hr. 45 min. They had obviously done this many times before, and were very nice guys. I chatted with Luis a little, learned he and the other 3 workers share a place with their families..sounds cramp, and uncomfortable.
Anyway, I told them I'd try and find them when I needed other things done, and they seemed very happy with that .
Overall, I rate an A experience!
Thanks for all the help, friends!
Pud know Luis and his friends know the layout of your house and may case your house. Hopefully you didn't talk about your new gun or your new car. Also hope you didn't flash a lot of cash in front of them and please, don't say you paid by check.
A licensed contractor would have been a safer move and are bonded and insured.
Pud, you need to start being aware of how people will take advantage of you. I'm not saying be paranoid, just take extra steps to be cautious and alert. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 656642
11/7/2009 7:14 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
If you hire anyone and they do anything on your property and they do not have insurance for the job, then you are responsible. Things like Workman's comp, Property insurance, etc should be had by any 'contractor' who does any work for you, this way should any accident take place it is not you who has to pay for it.
Sadly the law is such if anyone slips and falls on your front lawn while walking by your house, they can now sue YOU.
Since gutters are there and always will be there to clean, you might want to seriously consider getting new gutters with those flip top leaf screens, or one of the newer types that allow the leaves to flow off the roof/gutter while capturing the water. Quoting: Wraithwynd
Yet another reason to hire licensed contractors, liability on your home owners insurance! Good post. |
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pud
User ID: 743297
11/7/2009 7:16 PM | | Re: So I have to clean my gutters...Do I do it myself, and risk breaking my neck, or hire some Day Laborers? | Quote |
Well...all done!
I hired 4 day laborers from Lowe's. I was surprised how few were out there. It used to be PACKED with them, but not today..maybe because I came a little later..not sure..
The "leader" of the four (Luis) negotiated a price with me. (I'm usually a tough negotiator, however, it's not like this was a several thousand dollar deal, so I wasn't too tough on him.) We agreed on $350 + lunch. (I ordered 3 pizzas from Pizza Hut, and let them have my beer at home.)
They worked damn hard! Finished in about 1 hr. 45 min. They had obviously done this many times before, and were very nice guys. I chatted with Luis a little, learned he and the other 3 workers share a place with their families..sounds cramp, and uncomfortable.
Anyway, I told them I'd try and find them when I needed other things done, and they seemed very happy with that .
Overall, I rate an A experience!
Thanks for all the help, friends!
Pud know Luis and his friends know the layout of your house and may case your house. Hopefully you didn't talk about your new gun or your new car. Also hope you didn't flash a lot of cash in front of them and please, don't say you paid by check.
A licensed contractor would have been a safer move and are bonded and insured.
Pud, you need to start being aware of how people will take advantage of you. I'm not saying be paranoid, just take extra steps to be cautious and alert.
Thanks for your concern, friend! :)
They weren't allowed inside at all, and I have a nice security system, and very aware neighbors. It's a very safe part of S.F., with a strong police presence, so I don't worry too much about prowlers.
Thanks though!
pudofglp@gmail.com |
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