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Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 501458
 United States
11/7/2009 9:06 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
Then propose an anti abortion bill ON ITS OWN, and let it sink or swim ON ITS OWN.
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Surely you realize there already IS legislation on abortion. It's legal, yes but I'm sure as HELL NOT GOING TO PAY FOR SOMEONE TO KILL THEIR CHILD.
Again, then Republicans should propose anti abortion legislation ON ITS OWN. What dont you understand?
The issue isn't anti or pro, it's should we ALL be rquired to PAY for it, that's the point here....if a woman chooses to end her childs life, why shouldn't the rest of us have the choice NOT to paticipate!!!!!!
the issue is affordable health care... pro or anti.... Quoting: AlreadyBugged
abortion, unless the pregnancy is going to jeapordize the woman's life, is NOT healthcare, it's OPTIONAL! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 800564
United States
11/7/2009 9:09 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
I am a little curious about why the House is stalling the final vote for so long.
If the vote is postponed until tomorrow, then we should be cautious of another "amendment" being added to the bill overnight. |
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AlreadyBugged
User ID: 809595
 Mexico
11/7/2009 9:09 PM
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All those Republican amendments are part of the bill. Well, at least some have been whittled away. Now if they could only whittle away the corporate inclusions...
Have you read the bill in its entirety? I haven't but I'm pretty sure I can confidently say that the republicans haven't take up more than a quarter of the space to offer up a few amendments. The only amendments offered are in response to what is already in that enormous bill. Why do you continue to argue with such ridiculous points? Quoting: Only Me
Closer to half. 500 pages of amendments! Imagine that! |
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Only Me 
felling any foe with my gaze
User ID: 725691
United States
11/7/2009 9:10 PM
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All those Republican amendments are part of the bill. Well, at least some have been whittled away. Now if they could only whittle away the corporate inclusions...
Have you read the bill in its entirety? I haven't but I'm pretty sure I can confidently say that the republicans haven't take up more than a quarter of the space to offer up a few amendments. The only amendments offered are in response to what is already in that enormous bill. Why do you continue to argue with such ridiculous points?
Closer to half. 500 pages of amendments! Imagine that! Quoting: AlreadyBugged
link to proof? and isn't this thing like 2000 pages long?
I'm taking it slow
Feeding my flame
Shuffling the cards of your game
And just in time
In the right place
Suddenly I will play my ace |
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AlreadyBugged
User ID: 809595
Mexico
11/7/2009 9:12 PM
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the issue is affordable health care... pro or anti....
abortion, unless the pregnancy is going to jeapordize the woman's life, is NOT healthcare, it's OPTIONAL! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 501458
There is separate legislation about abortion. Propose separate legislation ON ITS OWN to strike it. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 800564
United States
11/7/2009 9:12 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
Closer to half. 500 pages of amendments! Imagine that! Quoting: AlreadyBugged
Half?
The bill is over 2000 pages long, you twit.
FAIL. |
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snark
User ID: 790439
United States
11/7/2009 9:13 PM
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Just chiming in to say I'm watching too...glad to see my GLP brothers and sisters are also watching the most important legislative fight in our lifetimes. Pelosicare is ultimately not about health care, it's about an explosion of an already giant government, it's about huge funding payoffs to Obama-friendly corporations, and enslaving us and countless generations to come with massive, massive debt.
The American people are watching. I had the honor of speaking to our One Year Recall Rally today. The patriots are engaged, and they are in it for the long hall. We are coming with pink-slips for Congress--we are getting ready to do some MAJOR firing in 2010.
T For Texas, T For Tennessee!
[link to snarkista.mybrute.com]
The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
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AlreadyBugged
User ID: 809595
Mexico
11/7/2009 9:13 PM
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All those Republican amendments are part of the bill. Well, at least some have been whittled away. Now if they could only whittle away the corporate inclusions...
Have you read the bill in its entirety? I haven't but I'm pretty sure I can confidently say that the republicans haven't take up more than a quarter of the space to offer up a few amendments. The only amendments offered are in response to what is already in that enormous bill. Why do you continue to argue with such ridiculous points?
Closer to half. 500 pages of amendments! Imagine that!
link to proof? and isn't this thing like 2000 pages long? Quoting: Only Me
Hey it's all there for you to read. LOL.
Last Edited by ABO on 11/7/2009 at 9:15 PM |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 800564
United States
11/7/2009 9:14 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
Hey it's all there for you to read. You dont even know how long the bill is. LOL. Quoting: AlreadyBugged
Neither do you. |
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Only Me
felling any foe with my gaze
User ID: 725691
United States
11/7/2009 9:15 PM
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Hey it's all there for you to read. You dont even know how long the bill is. LOL.
Neither do you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 800564
That's the truth!
I'm taking it slow
Feeding my flame
Shuffling the cards of your game
And just in time
In the right place
Suddenly I will play my ace |
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AlreadyBugged
User ID: 809595
Mexico
11/7/2009 9:16 PM
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Hey it's all there for you to read. You dont even know how long the bill is. LOL.
Neither do you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 800564
It was 1000 pages last I heard. Shit! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 754169
United States
11/7/2009 9:17 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
Im on dial up and cant view the live feed. Have they begun to vote yet???
Any idea on how the vote is going to go??
Is there ANY chance that we are not going to get stuck with this damn bill??
even if the house passes it, it still has to go to the Senate and they Say they won't look at it till next year.
This is like cap and trade and amesty bills. The house passes ithem and the shit storm hits the senate and it doesn't get passed.
The house dems who pass this bill are walking the plank and are being sacraficed.
Gee PAC, can you really trust the one hundred most arrogant and useless men on the planet to stop this?
They are all very rich men who would sell their souls for a buck.
HE'LL NO I DONT TRUST THE SENATE.
I trust the millions if Americans who are pissed off and letting them know they will be fired if the pass it. Why do you think Reid is moving the vote to next year? HE DOESNT HAVE THE VOTES.
Of course there is a very good chance they will fall on their swords and pass it, but if they do we get back control of congress with a ALL NEW CONSERVATIVE GOP. REBORN
PAC, what is with your fetish with the GOP? Why not vote for the Constitution party? They are real conservatives.
If you keep worrying about party, you are just going to fall for the same B.S. every time.
What's wrong PAC, too much of a pussy to respond?
I've seen him respond to this question many times...thinks like I do about it....a third party is an idea being promoted by Liberals to split the conservative vote...thus more or less guaranteeing they maintain control....The GOP was corrupted by this big bullshit pleaser mentality and we lost the conservative values that once made us great....now I am somewhat socially liberal...but I am somewhat to the right of Genghis Khan when it comes to most everything else. We will be far more effective if fiscal conservatives can regain control of the Republican party and these RINO spenders and gov expanders can go where they ought to be...to the Liberal Demorat party....the conservative leaning independents will more than make up for the RINOs departure....3rd party means 50 vs 35 and 15...guess which hand wins then... Quoting: SHR
Ok, fair enough. So PAC should think of the GOP as a means, not an end.
But if he did that, he wouldn't crow about Repubs winning against Dems, but about conservatives winning against liberals.
Problem is, that is all he talks about. Dem vs. Repub. If a Repub that is more liberal than his Dem opponent won, PAC would be overjoyed. He focuses on the wrong end.
He needs to quit giving the GOP a free pass, and judge them as harshly as the Dems. Maybe if all conservatives did that, the GOP would change its ways. |
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Only Me
felling any foe with my gaze
User ID: 725691
United States
11/7/2009 9:17 PM
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Hey it's all there for you to read. You dont even know how long the bill is. LOL.
Neither do you.
It was 1000 pages last I heard. Shit! Quoting: AlreadyBugged
last you heard? you watching cspan? they have been debating all day, lugging around this enormous 2000 page bill - throwin' out their backs trying to carry it
I'm taking it slow
Feeding my flame
Shuffling the cards of your game
And just in time
In the right place
Suddenly I will play my ace |
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AlreadyBugged
User ID: 809595
Mexico
11/7/2009 9:20 PM
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Hey it's all there for you to read. You dont even know how long the bill is. LOL.
Neither do you.
It was 1000 pages last I heard. Shit!
last you heard? you watching cspan? they have been debating all day, lugging around this enormous 2000 page bill - throwin' out their backs trying to carry it Quoting: Only Me
yes of course I am watching. republican amendment after amendment. But yes, last I heard it was 1000 pages. Obviously it's increased in size. lol |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 800564
United States
11/7/2009 9:21 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
It was 1000 pages last I heard. Shit! Quoting: AlreadyBugged
No, it's been 2000 pages for quite some time now... not including the secret amendments made to it before the House was brought into session earlier today.
I expect more "amendments" will be silently added should the vote be postponed until tomorrow. |
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Only Me
felling any foe with my gaze
User ID: 725691
United States
11/7/2009 9:24 PM
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Hey it's all there for you to read. You dont even know how long the bill is. LOL.
Neither do you.
It was 1000 pages last I heard. Shit!
last you heard? you watching cspan? they have been debating all day, lugging around this enormous 2000 page bill - throwin' out their backs trying to carry it
yes of course I am watching. republican amendment after amendment. But yes, last I heard it was 1000 pages. Obviously it's increased in size. lol Quoting: AlreadyBugged
um, it increased in size because pelosi's committee added to it
as for amendment after amendment? Um...no. They have spent the last couple hours debating the republican alternative plan, not their amendments to pelosi's stupid bill.
I'm taking it slow
Feeding my flame
Shuffling the cards of your game
And just in time
In the right place
Suddenly I will play my ace |
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Dread Pirate Roberts
User ID: 812950
United States
11/7/2009 9:24 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
I left at 6pm and just got back. Did they vote? Sorry for the noob Question and the interruption. I looked on Twiter and Drudge but can't find an answer
From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17 |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 800564
United States
11/7/2009 9:24 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
yes of course I am watching. republican amendment after amendment. But yes, last I heard it was 1000 pages. Obviously it's increased in size. lol Quoting: AlreadyBugged
There has only been one Republican amendment proposed... the Stupak Amendment. No other Republican amendments of any kind have been proposed.
You're obviously not paying any attention to the debate whatsoever. I've been watching (and still are) the House debate ever since it began earlier today. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 800564
United States
11/7/2009 9:25 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
I left at 6pm and just got back. Did they vote? Sorry for the noob Question and the interruption. I looked on Twiter and Drudge but can't find an answer Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts
Nope... they're still debating it. |
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Dread Pirate Roberts
User ID: 812950
United States
11/7/2009 9:28 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
I left at 6pm and just got back. Did they vote? Sorry for the noob Question and the interruption. I looked on Twiter and Drudge but can't find an answer
Nope... they're still debating it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 800564
thank you so very much. cheers
From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17 |
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AlreadyBugged
User ID: 809595
Mexico
11/7/2009 9:28 PM
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197 amendments were passed in the end — 36 from Democrats and 161 from Republicans.
This was back in July. Am researching what it is today,.... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 800564
United States
11/7/2009 9:31 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
This was back in July. Am researching what it is today,.... Quoting: AlreadyBugged
Then that was back in July.
The only amendment made today was the one Nancy Pelosi decided to slip in at the last second.
Also, the Stupak Amendment was never actually a part of the bill itself... the Republicans merely proposed the amendment to be added to the current bill. |
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AlreadyBugged
User ID: 809595
Mexico
11/7/2009 9:31 PM
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yes of course I am watching. republican amendment after amendment. But yes, last I heard it was 1000 pages. Obviously it's increased in size. lol
There has only been one Republican amendment proposed... the Stupak Amendment. No other Republican amendments of any kind have been proposed.
You're obviously not paying any attention to the debate whatsoever. I've been watching (and still are) the House debate ever since it began earlier today. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 800564
I've been "watching" for months... |
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AlreadyBugged
User ID: 809595
Mexico
11/7/2009 9:32 PM
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This was back in July. Am researching what it is today,....
Then that was back in July.
The only amendment made today was the one Nancy Pelosi decided to slip in at the last second.
Also, the Stupak Amendment was never actually a part of the bill itself... the Republicans merely proposed the amendment to be added to the current bill. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 800564
Uh, that isnt how legislation is made.... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 800564
United States
11/7/2009 9:33 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
Uh, that isnt how legislation is made.... Quoting: AlreadyBugged
Tell that to the Democrats. |
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Zephyr333
User ID: 798487
United States
11/7/2009 9:35 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
Just chiming in to say I'm watching too...glad to see my GLP brothers and sisters are also watching the most important legislative fight in our lifetimes. Pelosicare is ultimately not about health care, it's about an explosion of an already giant government, it's about huge funding payoffs to Obama-friendly corporations, and enslaving us and countless generations to come with massive, massive debt.
The American people are watching. I had the honor of speaking to our One Year Recall Rally today. The patriots are engaged, and they are in it for the long hall. We are coming with pink-slips for Congress--we are getting ready to do some MAJOR firing in 2010. Quoting: snark
Yes Yes I agree. And you make me smile. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 772524
United States
11/7/2009 9:36 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
They (the Congress) must read the bill in it's entirely to all members before it can be voted on.
Believe it or not! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 772524
United States
11/7/2009 9:40 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
They (the Congress) must read the bill in it's entirely to all members before it can be voted on.
Believe it or not! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 772524
One more thing, it must read aloud 3 (three) times before it can be voted on. Only members of Congress that were present during the full audio of the Bill can vote on it.
Believe it or Not! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 771288
United States
11/7/2009 9:45 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
Politico: Sources say the Democrats have secured the 218 required votes to approve health care bill. (via @BreakingNews) |
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Truthseekr
User ID: 757308
United States
11/7/2009 9:47 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
when will they make a decision anyone know? i gota sleep! |
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