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Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW
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Bluebird  User ID: 730536 11/7/2009 12:48 PM
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They are saying all the things we feared are in this bill. I was hoping and praying that they actually WERE exaggerated. But they are NOT! They are going on record saying they are there, the opposition is saying it.
Yeah, it's sort of like watching Faux News for you now, isn't it? Quoting: georgebushworstprezever 177020
I am still waiting for you to post how many pages you read and posted about so it can be verified. Mine was close to 500. And you lied and said I had not read it with your pot and kettle remark.
I hate liars. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 812590 11/7/2009 12:49 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | It passes I would love to see a civil war by years end. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 794732 11/7/2009 12:49 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
Thanks for the link. Luckily I am poor so this will not effect me much. Ill just get medicaid or something. I think
THINK AGAIN! If you are at or BELOW 133 % to 150% of the poverty level as an individual you will pay 500 a year premium plus your deductables and co-pays as a family you will be required to pay 1000
Now that is just the first year second year it is 750 per ind and 1500 per family 3rd year 1000 per ind and 2000 per family. This comes directly off the chart on the proposed bill on page 242...and you thought this bill would help the poor lol
And what do you thing folks are paying today for insurance premiums through employer-sponsored plans? Do you know what the total cost is? Quoting: georgebushworstprezever 177020
THE point is if I as an individual am making say 5-6 thousand a year I can be fucking put in JAIL if I can't come up with 500 bucks for the premium! Are you telling me this is right and sane???? If so fuck you! |
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jjpcrehab User ID: 793046 11/7/2009 12:50 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
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aznwarlord User ID: 795177 11/7/2009 12:50 PM
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under the new fascist states of america. “I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied without understanding the world.”
– Richard Dawkins |
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ExhaleAeonVolts User ID: 810969 11/7/2009 12:50 PM
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Last Edited by ExhaleAeonVolts on 11/7/2009 at 12:50 PM To quote the brilliant Thomas Sowell.........
"Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Moammar Gadhafi and Vladimir Putin have all praised Barack Obama. When enemies of freedom and democracy praise your president, what are you to think? When you add to this Barack Obama's many previous years of associations and alliances with people who hate America — Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, Father Pfleger, etc. — at what point do you stop denying the obvious and start to connect the dots?" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 812695 11/7/2009 12:51 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
Yep but even that is scary given that so many seem to really think it is going to be free! So many would buy the talking points and not read the bill at all.
Kettle...meet pot.
I read 500 pages of it and posted on this forum.
Who are you calling kettle? How many pages did you read? I stopped when I learned that they would not post the thousand pages of amendments created behind closed doors. Quoting: Bluebird
Ignore that poster, Bluebird. He or she is quite obviously a shill for the agenda. Search the post history. |
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Trayen11 User ID: 812748 11/7/2009 12:51 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | Wow, and I thought the way the Canadian Health system was bad. If this one is passed for you in the States is just brutal.
I can't believe this even got as far as it has already. This is not a bill for health care, it seems more like a way for the US government to get money from the American people to pay thier bills. Not give health care to people.
But thats just my opinion I dont live in the states, I live in Canada. Life is not about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward.
Words to live and die by in these trying times. |
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Frostradamus User ID: 810557 11/7/2009 12:51 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
Freakin awesome |
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Only Me  Strawberry Girl User ID: 725691 11/7/2009 12:51 PM
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"Yes I will, dammit!" - Drakensang |
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Bluebird  User ID: 730536 11/7/2009 12:52 PM
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Only Me  Strawberry Girl User ID: 725691 11/7/2009 12:53 PM
 | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | And Dreier lugs in the super heavy bill (all bazillion pages of it) FTW!!!!!!!! So now I know what I have to do. I have to keep breathing. And tomorrow the sun will rise, and who knows what the tide will bring in.
"Yes I will, dammit!" - Drakensang |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 812695 11/7/2009 12:53 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
Wow, and I thought the way the Canadian Health system was bad. If this one is passed for you in the States is just brutal.
I can't believe this even got as far as it has already. This is not a bill for health care, it seems more like a way for the US government to get money from the American people to pay thier bills. Not give health care to people.
But thats just my opinion I dont live in the states, I live in Canada. Quoting: Trayen11
Bingo |
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georgebushworstprezever User ID: 177020 11/7/2009 12:54 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
Yep but even that is scary given that so many seem to really think it is going to be free! So many would buy the talking points and not read the bill at all.
Kettle...meet pot.
I read 500 pages of it and posted on this forum.
Who are you calling kettle? How many pages did you read? I stopped when I learned that they would not post the thousand pages of amendments created behind closed doors. Quoting: Bluebird
I have less than 200 pages remaining.
This whole GOP ploy of stacking of copies of legislation and bringing them to the floor has become so trite. It's double-spaced single-sided legislative text. Get your staff together and just read the damn thing and stop with the juvenile tactics. |
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KathyT User ID: 703227 11/7/2009 12:54 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | All American’s, not just the rich, deserve to have access to health care.
For 15 years, we haven’t had reform. During the Bush administration, the Republicans did NOTHING to fix our broken system of health care. All he did was put us into a war which was NOT justified, there were no weapons of mass destruction. And he did it because he knew there were no terrorists, he knew the towers came down by controlled demolition.
100 years ago health care was between you and your doctor. We need to get rid of all of our Insurance companies for health care who try to dictate what you and your doctor decide. We need to get back to preventative health care and not health care driven by Drug company monopolies who just want to force drugs on us.
Now is the time to pass quality health care reform. I hope this Bill passes. |
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Trayen11 User ID: 812748 11/7/2009 12:55 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | You know, people say the American health system as it is is total bullshit and is bad. But you know what I live in Canada and have had health issues for years and our "Great" health system here is so bad that it takes my 1 year to see a specialist to find out whats wrong.
So instead of using the shit system we have here in Canada, instead I drove down into the states, spent some money and got real answers in just 1 week.
Universal health care is not a good as it sounds guys. Life is not about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward.
Words to live and die by in these trying times. |
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georgebushworstprezever User ID: 177020 11/7/2009 12:56 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
Federal Marshals should break into that closed door meeting and arrest all of them including Obama for treason.
Say what? What show are you watching? (The one going on in your mind perhaps?)
Same show the rest of us are watching, the willful destruction of our constitutional and human rights.
We are now science experiments, by law, if this passes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 686411
So, again, what closed door meeting would that be? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 677020 11/7/2009 12:57 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | Since this thread is nothing but raving conservatives, I'll give you something to focus your spewing hatred on:
The reason this bill sucks so bad is because the conservatives are too stupid to see that single-payer (like Canada) is a GOOD thing, one that actually puts people before profit. So the conservatives (as usual) lined up against their own interests, based on Limbaugh lies, and helped the insurance companies get everything they wanted out of this bill. Now we'll all be forced to buy from those bloodsucking bastards and our medical quality will continue to go down. Thanks a lot, morons. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 812695 11/7/2009 12:57 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
Now is the time to pass quality health care reform. I hope this Bill passes. Quoting: KathyT
This bill is not quality reform. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 812260 11/7/2009 12:57 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | Gee, if it passes, maybe my cigarette taxes, which is supposed to pay for childrens' health care, will go down and it will once again be 50 cents a pack.
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 538386 11/7/2009 12:57 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
We need to get rid of all of our Insurance companies for health care who try to dictate what you and your doctor decide. Quoting: KathyT
And you believe that this bill provides that?

I have a bridge for sale, you interested? |
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Bluebird  User ID: 730536 11/7/2009 12:57 PM
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Yep but even that is scary given that so many seem to really think it is going to be free! So many would buy the talking points and not read the bill at all.
Kettle...meet pot.
I read 500 pages of it and posted on this forum.
Who are you calling kettle? How many pages did you read? I stopped when I learned that they would not post the thousand pages of amendments created behind closed doors.
I have less than 200 pages remaining.
This whole GOP ploy of stacking of copies of legislation and bringing them to the floor has become so trite. It's double-spaced single-sided legislative text. Get your staff together and just read the damn thing and stop with the juvenile tactics. Quoting: georgebushworstprezever 177020
Well, another massive amount was added late last night so no way have you read that.
No one can have in the amount of time allotted but then that's the idea.
And I don't take your WORD you read anything. I have seen your posts before.
I posted on this forum what I read when I was reading it.
Are you expecting me to believe you read something just on YOUR word, lol!
Talk about juvenile! No one is going to do that. |
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jjpcrehab User ID: 793046 11/7/2009 12:58 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | Louise Slaughter her name says it all |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 717735 11/7/2009 12:59 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | The I's need to be fried NOW! |
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Only Me  Strawberry Girl User ID: 725691 11/7/2009 12:59 PM
 | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | ayes so did NOT have it wtf So now I know what I have to do. I have to keep breathing. And tomorrow the sun will rise, and who knows what the tide will bring in.
"Yes I will, dammit!" - Drakensang |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 812729 11/7/2009 12:59 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | So with 'actual' unemployment somewhere around 20%, just WHO is going to pay for this?
Oh yeah, the newly formed SLAVES !!
The elites already have their tax exempt foundations. |
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Trayen11 User ID: 812748 11/7/2009 1:00 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | So, if this passes does that mean this health care bill come into effect for you guys? How long until your taxes get yanked into the sky? Life is not about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward.
Words to live and die by in these trying times. |
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georgebushworstprezever User ID: 177020 11/7/2009 1:00 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
i would be surprised if it does not pass.
if it does not pass the dems will change some words and pass it in 1 - 2 weeks.
im watching the debate and the republicans are destroying the dems with facts and comon sense..
the dems are just staying back and keeping their time... hahaha pussies.... Quoting: aznwarlord
Facts? Hehe. That is too funny.
And by the way, there's not really any debate going on here. If you really wanted to see some sort of last minute debate on HR 3962, you needed to watch the Rules Committee hearing yesterday and last night. |
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Mister Obvious   Senior Forum Moderator 11/7/2009 1:00 PM
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ayes so did NOT have it wtf Quoting: Only Me
Hell no they didn't.
They didn't even give the No's a good voice opportunity. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 800220 11/7/2009 1:00 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | THIS BETTER NOT PASS |
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