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Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW
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jjpcrehab User ID: 793046 11/7/2009 1:00 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | My father lives in Canada he had cancer of the mouth he came down here to Texas for treatment because the wait was 6 months there |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 286081 11/7/2009 1:01 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
All American’s, not just the rich, deserve to have access to health care.
For 15 years, we haven’t had reform. During the Bush administration, the Republicans did NOTHING to fix our broken system of health care. All he did was put us into a war which was NOT justified, there were no weapons of mass destruction. And he did it because he knew there were no terrorists, he knew the towers came down by controlled demolition.
100 years ago health care was between you and your doctor. We need to get rid of all of our Insurance companies for health care who try to dictate what you and your doctor decide. We need to get back to preventative health care and not health care driven by Drug company monopolies who just want to force drugs on us.
Now is the time to pass quality health care reform. I hope this Bill passes. Quoting: KathyT
You are a fucking idiot. |
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Bluebird  User ID: 730536 11/7/2009 1:02 PM
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Yep but even that is scary given that so many seem to really think it is going to be free! So many would buy the talking points and not read the bill at all.
Kettle...meet pot.
I read 500 pages of it and posted on this forum.
Who are you calling kettle? How many pages did you read? I stopped when I learned that they would not post the thousand pages of amendments created behind closed doors.
I have less than 200 pages remaining.
This whole GOP ploy of stacking of copies of legislation and bringing them to the floor has become so trite. It's double-spaced single-sided legislative text. Get your staff together and just read the damn thing and stop with the juvenile tactics.
Well, another massive amount was added late last night so no way have you read that.
No one can have in the amount of time allotted but then that's the idea.
And I don't take your WORD you read anything. I have seen your posts before.
I posted on this forum what I read when I was reading it.
Are you expecting me to believe you read something just on YOUR word, lol!
Talk about juvenile! No one is going to do that. Quoting: Bluebird
And thank you for admitting you are posting under two different ID's here.
That's what I thought. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 550635 11/7/2009 1:02 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | This goes through, it will be the beginning of the end for Washington. With only 12% of the nation support thins, they have to be mad to ignore reality.
Never underestemate 200,000,000 armed and pissed off people. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 794732 11/7/2009 1:02 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | The vote they are casting at the moment I THINK is a procedural vote I think to stop the discusion and go on to vote on the bill but I am not sure. |
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Trayen11 User ID: 812748 11/7/2009 1:02 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | "We were graced totad with the presence of the President"
Someone should tell these people that he is just a man, not a god. Life is not about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward.
Words to live and die by in these trying times. |
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Only Me  Strawberry Girl User ID: 725691 11/7/2009 1:03 PM
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ayes so did NOT have it wtf
Hell no they didn't.
They didn't even give the No's a good voice opportunity. Quoting: Mister Obvious
record voting has the nays ahead so far :p So now I know what I have to do. I have to keep breathing. And tomorrow the sun will rise, and who knows what the tide will bring in.
"Yes I will, dammit!" - Drakensang |
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MasterSlave User ID: 728817 11/7/2009 1:03 PM | |
embu User ID: 758011 11/7/2009 1:03 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
You know, people say the American health system as it is is total bullshit and is bad. But you know what I live in Canada and have had health issues for years and our "Great" health system here is so bad that it takes my 1 year to see a specialist to find out whats wrong.
So instead of using the shit system we have here in Canada, instead I drove down into the states, spent some money and got real answers in just 1 week.
Universal health care is not a good as it sounds guys. Quoting: Trayen11
universal healthcare is for the lazy and incompetant. US costs exploded when the government got into the healthcare business in 1964.  |
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jjpcrehab User ID: 793046 11/7/2009 1:03 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | Ive bitten all my nails off |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 810683 11/7/2009 1:04 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
Louise Slaughter her name says it all Quoting: jjpcrehab
You got it
Madoff - finance
Dr FukUda - WHO swine flu (now assistant) coordinator (when the swine flu first started he was the man in charge, but demoted) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 812787 11/7/2009 1:04 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | the bitch is talking |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 800220 11/7/2009 1:04 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | were screwed, this is the worst thing these people (zombies) can do to America.... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 793418 11/7/2009 1:04 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
I can't believe this even got as far as it has already. This is not a bill for health care, it seems more like a way for the US government to get money from the American people to pay thier bills. Not give health care to people. Quoting: Trayen11
That's what I've been thinking too. But the Democrats don't know how to do anything except this way, by taking a whole lot of our money and then doling it back out in dribs and drabs after creating a huge bureacracy of slow lazy gov't workers to process everything, as slowly and inefficiently as possible.
Luckily the Republicans have kept this at bay for a long time, but it's too bad the Republicans didn't take some of the slower steps they are now recommending, while they were in power and before now so that it didn't have to come to this now with the Democrats in majority. |
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Frostradamus User ID: 810557 11/7/2009 1:04 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | Pelosi looks EXCEPTIONALLY evil today |
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Trayen11 User ID: 812748 11/7/2009 1:05 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
My father lives in Canada he had cancer of the mouth he came down here to Texas for treatment because the wait was 6 months there Quoting: jjpcrehab
Exactly. we may not have to pay all the time for things, but you know what we pay with "time". It takes insane amounts of time to see anyone. That stems from the fact that our doctors up here are paid like shit, so instead of staying here they move to the states for better pay.
Our health system is so underfunded and understaffed it's stupid.
If they paid the doctors here in Canada the same amounts as they did in the States, I bet our system would actually work like it is supposed to. Life is not about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward.
Words to live and die by in these trying times. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 812671 11/7/2009 1:05 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
Since this thread is nothing but raving conservatives, I'll give you something to focus your spewing hatred on:
The reason this bill sucks so bad is because the conservatives are too stupid to see that single-payer (like Canada) is a GOOD thing, one that actually puts people before profit. So the conservatives (as usual) lined up against their own interests, based on Limbaugh lies, and helped the insurance companies get everything they wanted out of this bill. Now we'll all be forced to buy from those bloodsucking bastards and our medical quality will continue to go down. Thanks a lot, morons. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 677020
Have you read the comments from Canadians in this thread ? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 766561 11/7/2009 1:05 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | Pelosi just said, "We will now pass healthcare reform".  |
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Mister Obvious   Senior Forum Moderator 11/7/2009 1:05 PM
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Making a slipping sound there. |
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Only Me  Strawberry Girl User ID: 725691 11/7/2009 1:06 PM
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the bitch is talking Quoting: Anonymous Coward 812787
 So now I know what I have to do. I have to keep breathing. And tomorrow the sun will rise, and who knows what the tide will bring in.
"Yes I will, dammit!" - Drakensang |
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Trayen11 User ID: 812748 11/7/2009 1:07 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
You know, people say the American health system as it is is total bullshit and is bad. But you know what I live in Canada and have had health issues for years and our "Great" health system here is so bad that it takes my 1 year to see a specialist to find out whats wrong.
So instead of using the shit system we have here in Canada, instead I drove down into the states, spent some money and got real answers in just 1 week.
Universal health care is not a good as it sounds guys.
universal healthcare is for the lazy and incompetant. US costs exploded when the government got into the healthcare business in 1964.  Quoting: embu 758011
Well if the system here in canada would be implemented properly and our doctor paid properly I think our health system would actually be very good. Problem is the Government does not want to pay the doctors proper pay, so they simpley leave and we get a shortage.
the shortage of doctors is what causes the long waits here in Canada. Life is not about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward.
Words to live and die by in these trying times. |
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georgebushworstprezever User ID: 177020 11/7/2009 1:07 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
Ignore that poster, Bluebird. He or she is quite obviously a shill for the agenda. Search the post history. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 812695
Hehe. Now isn't that ironic? (RQ) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 812087 11/7/2009 1:09 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | When is THE VOTE? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 812695 11/7/2009 1:09 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
So, if this passes does that mean this health care bill come into effect for you guys? How long until your taxes get yanked into the sky? Quoting: Trayen11
No, the Senate must also pass a bill, the some compromise of the 2 different bills must be made. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 812695 11/7/2009 1:10 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
You know, people say the American health system as it is is total bullshit and is bad. But you know what I live in Canada and have had health issues for years and our "Great" health system here is so bad that it takes my 1 year to see a specialist to find out whats wrong.
So instead of using the shit system we have here in Canada, instead I drove down into the states, spent some money and got real answers in just 1 week.
Universal health care is not a good as it sounds guys.
universal healthcare is for the lazy and incompetant. US costs exploded when the government got into the healthcare business in 1964.  Quoting: embu 758011
Shush now...government always makes everything better! |
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Trayen11 User ID: 812748 11/7/2009 1:11 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote | 812671
Do you actually live in Canada?
Are system is not all it is made out to be. We have no doctors here. Our waits for doctors (specialists in particular) is pathetic.
Let me put it this way a little while ago i posted how i had to go to the states to get some answers to a medical issue i was having.
If i would have waited for the doctors here in Canada. I'd be dead right now, so no it's not all it is cracked up to be. If our government would grow the fuck up and pay our doctors properly I think our problems here in canada with health care would be alot lower.
In principal our system is great, it's just run by idiots who brains are stcuk on stupid. Life is not about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward.
Words to live and die by in these trying times. |
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Trayen11 User ID: 812748 11/7/2009 1:11 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
So, if this passes does that mean this health care bill come into effect for you guys? How long until your taxes get yanked into the sky?
No, the Senate must also pass a bill, the some compromise of the 2 different bills must be made. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 812695
thanks, I do not have a great working knowledge of your guys political system. Life is not about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward.
Words to live and die by in these trying times. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 766561 11/7/2009 1:12 PM | | Re: Watch Health Care Vote Live NOW | Quote |
When is THE VOTE? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 812087
In about 15 minutes.. But the way the Dems are talking, it's sounds like they know it's gonna pass. |
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PACNWguy  User ID: 688273 11/7/2009 1:12 PM
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Pelosi just said, "We will now pass healthcare reform".  Quoting: Anonymous Coward 766561
IF YOU DO NANCY, I WILL RESCEND IT BEFORE IT IS INACTED IN 2013 WHEN I AM RE-ELECTED IN THE BIGGEST LANDSLIDE IN WORLD HISTORY.
 OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY |
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Bluebird  User ID: 730536 11/7/2009 1:12 PM
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Since this thread is nothing but raving conservatives, I'll give you something to focus your spewing hatred on:
The reason this bill sucks so bad is because the conservatives are too stupid to see that single-payer (like Canada) is a GOOD thing, one that actually puts people before profit. So the conservatives (as usual) lined up against their own interests, based on Limbaugh lies, and helped the insurance companies get everything they wanted out of this bill. Now we'll all be forced to buy from those bloodsucking bastards and our medical quality will continue to go down. Thanks a lot, morons.
Have you read the comments from Canadians in this thread ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 812671
Yes, please read what they have to say.
The 2% profits the insurance companies make are going to be absolutely nothing compared to the waste and fraud in a government run plan.
Obama says there are billions and billions of fraud in Medicare alone. So now we will have trillions and trillions in waste and fraud and inefficiency because the government always does.
I'd rather the insurance companies make a reasonable profit than the government totally screw it up.
See how they have handled swine flu vaccine for example of government corruption at work. Now our whole healthcare will be handled like this. Some joker forgot to order enough in time even on a damned flu vaccine and yet we should trust them with our lives? |
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