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ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7

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Nancy Lieder SubscriberModerator
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11/7/2009 7:27 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

Greetings and thanks to Nancy and the Zetas.

The Zetas have recently updated the progress of PX’s 270 degree roll to: “…195°, as it has done in a dither at times recently…” (Magnetic Twist, 10/29/09) and the Earth’s orbital position: “…since been pushed back to almost the August position…” (GLP 10/17/09). The Zetas have previously reported that: “…the roll should proceed 195° before rotation slowing to a stop leading into the pole shift would occur. At this point you're into a roller coaster ride and it's a very short time until the pole shift itself.” (270° Roll Progress, 4/21/06). And that the Earth will have been pushed back to the August position at the time of the Pole Shift.

Are the 270 degree roll and orbital position updates examples of the Zetas being more specific regarding PX’s timeline, due to Obama taking office? Can the Zetas say if a PX and/or Pole Shift announcement is pending?

Any comments on the latest magnetosphere anomaly?
[ [link to poleshift.ning.com]

SOZT
In the past we were being asked about the progress of the 270 deg roll, almost weekly. We stopped giving updates on May, 2007 when we estimated slightly less than 150 deg, and refused to comment after that. Our reasons were many, and included not wanting to clue the establishment into any pole shift timeline. We have stated recently that Planet X and the Earth are DITHERING in their dance with each other, and that Planet X especially is dithering while increasingly pointing its N Pole away from the Sun and in the direction of Earth. Beyond that, we will not be more specific. Indeed, the lack of a S Pole in the simulated magnetosphere, or the simulation showing a twisted magnetosphere, shows that Planet X is no longer pointing its N Pole off into space, but including the Earth in its influence.
EOZT
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
Nancy Lieder SubscriberModerator
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11/7/2009 7:29 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

Nancy, can the zetas describe what the souls of those who perish during the shift might encounter after their physical bodies expire? Will we (or those that die during that time) become aware of the extent of the situation, will they be able to comprehend what is going on, and might they then see or otherwise experience going into the craft that will take them either off-world or to their new hybrid bodies, and what will the STO that elect to hang around and help out experience? Will they be cognizant of being "taken for a ride in a UFO" from one trouble spot to the next?

NancyTalk: I’d suggest reading the Density section, which has pages about between lives, and when we die and the like.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Any soul that is alive during a pole shift, dying then or afterwards, remembers the experience.
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
Neutral Stance
User ID: 813030
11/7/2009 7:31 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

Nancy,

(1)What is the probability distribution of the density of beings interacting with Earth at this time?
- is it less common for beings with significant degrees of the term 'ultra-terrestrial' to interact with Earth? Why?

(2)What do the Zetas have to say about the possibility of a technological singularity? If such an event were to occur, what is the nature of the entity produced? Is this a common event across the cosmos in this density? Do similar events occur that correspond to higher densities?

(3)Note this photo:
[link to langarra.files.wordpress.com]

Can the Zetas comment on the above photo? Can the Zetas speculate on the location of their own level of consciousness in relation to this photo?
- more importantly, how do the Zetas perceive the nature of this philosophy in relation to the current human condition?

Thanks,
NS
Derek
User ID: 813013
11/7/2009 7:32 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

"It seems as I ask for guidance from inner planes & higher self about directions to take in near future, ie; re-location, re-education, continuing forward with earthly pursuit's for making a better tomorrow for all, I am getting "all as nuetral". I seem to be getting message that it doesn't matter at this point, things are going to start changing quickly. I also seem to be getting a vision of things happening in "a blink of an eye", even happening in one's sleep, to awake out of body. Curious, is this 1st wave contract?"

Do you have any inward hesitation to prepare for the poleshift? If so, this could be tainting your messages. It is never too late to start preparations, like learning healing herbs or how to garden or use hand tools, etc.
Nancy Lieder SubscriberModerator
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11/7/2009 7:35 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

Last time, once again, the crux of my question about the repulsion force was avoided. In the "answer" the repulsion force was, once again, touted to have a large effect at great distances. However, the Zetatalk I quoted is in direct contradiction to that. It states TWICE that the repulsion force doesn't overcome the force of gravity until the objects CONTACT each other. Once again, the pertinent portions are bolded. Please don't remove/ignore the bolded parts AGAIN.

[ [link to www.zetatalk.com]

"Where the repulsion force comes to equal the force of gravity by the time the objects in play would make contact, it builds at a rate that differs from gravity."

"The repulsion force is infinitesimally smaller than the force of gravity, but has a sharper curve so that it equals the force of gravity at the point of contact."

Will the "Zetas" address the massive contradiction THIS TIME?

NancyTalk: Menow stop wasting my time. You’re not DUMB, so are trying to waste everyone’s time. The sentence reads “Where the repulsion force comes to equal the force of gravity by the time the objects in play would make contact, it builds at a rate that differs from gravity.” BY THE TIME is talking about the a POTENTIAL situation. Not actual.

The gravitational force exists first. It is the static condition. The repulsion phenomena only manifests when, as we said, the objects are of equal size, are free to move, and dominate the immediate environment. Where the repulsion force comes to equal the force of gravity by the time the objects in play would make contact, it builds at a rate that differs from gravity. Humans have calculated the force of gravity, which at first they assumed was equal for all objects but lately have come to understand is stronger for larger objects. They have formulas for the force of gravity which have proved accurate on the face of their home planet. These formulas are incomplete, and would not work as expected elsewhere, however. The repulsion force is infinitesimally smaller than the force of gravity, but has a sharper curve so that it equals the force of gravity at the point of contact. For experimental purposes, one would have to be almost at the point of contact for it to come into play at all, and this in an environment where other factors are eliminated or negated. To examine the phenomena, Earth scientists would have to set up a lab in space, far enough away from any planetary body so that free movement is possible. Place two balls in a cage. Put one in motion toward another. Microscopically examine the interchange. They do not touch. They do not bounce off one another. They do not touch.
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
Nancy Lieder SubscriberModerator
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11/7/2009 7:37 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

The Zetas talk about gloom and drizzle everywhere post pole shift. At the new equator will things be better because of the stronger overhead sun. Will tropical crops like bananas grow. Thanks.

SOZT
There will be places on Earth where occasional sunlight will break through the gloom, and other places severely affected by the gloom. Downwind from active volcanoes will bring ash, but those areas NOT so located can expect overcast days but not dead vegetation. Those crops not doing well unless in direct sunlight will not thrive, while others will. YOU do the research on these matters, determining where the winds will flow in the Aftertime, and determining what crops would be best for your new climate. YOU must take responsibility for these efforts. Must we hold you hand?
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
Gerard
User ID: 334168
11/7/2009 7:38 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

Answering mennow is like talking to a brick wall it doesn't get trough.

Watch and see he will go on and on and on about the same issue. Until his demands are satisfied.

Last Edited by Gerard on 11/7/2009 at 7:42 PM
Nancy Lieder SubscriberModerator
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11/7/2009 7:38 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

My website is back up ...
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 813027
11/7/2009 7:39 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

"It seems as I ask for guidance from inner planes & higher self about directions to take in near future, ie; re-location, re-education, continuing forward with earthly pursuit's for making a better tomorrow for all, I am getting "all as nuetral". I seem to be getting message that it doesn't matter at this point, things are going to start changing quickly. I also seem to be getting a vision of things happening in "a blink of an eye", even happening in one's sleep, to awake out of body. Curious, is this 1st wave contract?"

Do you have any inward hesitation to prepare for the poleshift? If so, this could be tainting your messages. It is never too late to start preparations, like learning healing herbs or how to garden or use hand tools, etc.
 Quoting: Derek 813013


I have been studying & practicing for many years & lovingly wanting to be of Service, & teaching others. I guess I'm curious about the 1st, 2nd, & 3rd "wave" contracts. I know my work has not been in vain no matter what happens how. I will do what is required.
Fuzz
User ID: 813051
11/7/2009 7:40 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

It seems the media is back to generating fear over alien contact with the new shows/movies "V" and "The Fourth Kind." I thought we were supposed to be moving toward disclosure of alien presence. These shows seem to indicate an opposite direction. Any comments?
Nancy Lieder SubscriberModerator
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11/7/2009 7:42 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

Could the Zetas tell us the reason for this acquisition? Somehow I doubt Buffett is investing in the (betterment) of the country's future. Thank you.

Billionaire investor makes $34 billion bet on the U.S. economy's future. Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway has agreed to buy Burlington Northern Santa Fe in a deal valuing the railroad at $34 billion. (article goes on to say).. It would be the biggest acquisition ever for Berkshire Hathaway Inc.
[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

SOZT
Today, humans migrate by using superhighways or roadways, but if the US were to be under some form of martial law, the roadways would be blocked by checkpoints. Moving people and goods for the wealthy, such as or select survival camp workers, could occur via the rails. These would have few checkpoints or at least those that could be bribed or directed to serve the wealthy. Buffett is anticipating this need.
EOZT
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
Neutral Stance
User ID: 813030
11/7/2009 7:46 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

Nancy,

(1)How do the Zetas perceive the ability of the current state of mathematics to explain the mind? How much detail are they able to discuss on this matter?
- within the entirety of mathematics that exists within the universe, is it possible to explain the mind to any degree?
- does the issue differ in relation to explaining an adaptation principal verses an experiencing quality?

(2)Do the Zetas possess any 'device' similar to mathematics in nature, of which they are able to explain the reality they exist in, in the manner of which mathematics is used as a science on earth?
- If this device does exist, what is the ability of it to explain the reality of humans in this density, compared to what we know as mathematics ourselves if you are noting that the Zetas are of a higher density?

(3)Do there exist any extremely important aspects of mathematics yet to be discovered, of which would greatly affect the way we live?
- Ex: panpsychism + "foundations of mathematisc"

Thanks,
NS
Nancy Lieder SubscriberModerator
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11/7/2009 7:46 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

Have been reading about praying in the ZetaTalk archives, and I have a question. Do prayers for strangers in need help them? For instance, do prayers for victims of tragedies, such as this week's Fort Hood shootings, help make these terrible situations better, or do prayers to protect public individuals like President Obama help? Conversely, are these individuals' spirit guides already doing all they can to help so that additional prayers are not necessary?

SOZT
This depends, but in general healings or protections are NOT done just because someone asks for another. Most people think they are being STO in their concerns for others, where they are at most being simply interested in the outcome or thinking they are glad not to be in the other person’s shoes. There are some STO requests for others that qualify for intervention, but this is where the person giving the Call, or prayer as you phrase it, is willing to put themselves in the other’s shoes, willing to sacrifice themselves, and this desire is not simply a posturing.
EOZT

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
Michael Mc Hed
User ID: 812994
11/7/2009 7:56 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

2) Sometimes people mention here on this forum so called “Puppet Master” . I don’t understand what they mean. I couldn’t find any article on Zetatalk about him. Who is he? Is he STO or STS?

Plug that into the search engine for the site and you get you answer:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


So he is STS?

Last Edited by Michael Mc Hed on 11/7/2009 at 7:57 PM
“No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father” (Gospel acc. Mark 13:32)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 812981
11/7/2009 7:56 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

Nancy, the Zeta's say that the winds will come from the North during and after the shift. Will that be our present North? or the new North?
Nancy Lieder SubscriberModerator
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11/7/2009 7:59 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

Q: Before Obama was sworn in, the zetas hinted that they "might" be more forthcoming about the timeframe for the shift. Also they made the famous "6 before the end of the year [2008]", a confident statement and not "we guess". What caused them to turn more cagey since those pronouncements? Too many BushCo moles still in place?

[and from another]
Dear Zetas, are we at a 7 yet?

SOZT
The totality of our statements on more disclosure about the coming pole shift pointed to the establishment WORLDWIDE being willing to be more honest with the public. What Obama is encountering is not just the reluctance of the CIA or the Air Force to have egg on its face regarding their former stance on UFOs. It is the fear among those in power in the US and in many other countries that admissions about the presence of Planet X in the inner solar system would result in panic in the people. A hint of this fear was shown in leaked information about the UN meeting on disclosure of the alien presence February, 2008.
[link to exopolitics.org]
As we pointed out, there is no reason to fear panic and economic collapse simply because officials admit the UFO presence.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
What they fear is the public taking those individuals who claim direct information from aliens, and talking about pending global changes, BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY. They fear the ZetaTalk message. Until the establishment, worldwide, is ready to be honest with their public about possible earth changes, the cataclysms as we have described them, there can be no additional information relayed by ourselves. We can say this. We are not yet at a 7.
EOZT
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 777448
11/7/2009 8:00 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

Any comment on the Ft. Hood shooter?
Nancy Lieder SubscriberModerator
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11/7/2009 8:00 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

Do the Zetas have any comment on MAlalai Joya, often called the "Bravest Woman in Afghanistan", who, as a member of PArliament, famously risked her life to speak out against warlords in the Afghan Parliament never tried for their crimes and continues to live in AFghanistan despite constant death threats to speak the truth for her people, never moderating her message.

It seems to me that she is inspiring a great many of the common people of Afghanistan who have been oppressed, to speak out and is having (hopefully) a profound STO impact on a region in dire need of it.

Here is a youtube video of her calling out warlords...

[link to www.youtube.com]
SOZT
This is, as you have pointed out, a true example of a highly STO individual.
EOZT
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
Zephyr333
User ID: 798487
11/7/2009 8:04 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

Q: Before Obama was sworn in, the zetas hinted that they "might" be more forthcoming about the timeframe for the shift. Also they made the famous "6 before the end of the year [2008]", a confident statement and not "we guess". What caused them to turn more cagey since those pronouncements? Too many BushCo moles still in place?

[and from another]
Dear Zetas, are we at a 7 yet?

SOZT
The totality of our statements on more disclosure about the coming pole shift pointed to the establishment WORLDWIDE being willing to be more honest with the public. What Obama is encountering is not just the reluctance of the CIA or the Air Force to have egg on its face regarding their former stance on UFOs. It is the fear among those in power in the US and in many other countries that admissions about the presence of Planet X in the inner solar system would result in panic in the people. A hint of this fear was shown in leaked information about the UN meeting on disclosure of the alien presence February, 2008.
[link to exopolitics.org]
As we pointed out, there is no reason to fear panic and economic collapse simply because officials admit the UFO presence.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
What they fear is the public taking those individuals who claim direct information from aliens, and talking about pending global changes, BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY. They fear the ZetaTalk message. Until the establishment, worldwide, is ready to be honest with their public about possible earth changes, the cataclysms as we have described them, there can be no additional information relayed by ourselves. We can say this. We are not yet at a 7.
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder

It won't be long.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 764252
11/7/2009 8:05 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

Hi Nancy & Zetas,

What is the intention of President Obama’s upcoming trip to Asia and the APEC Summit? What is the true nature of the trip and will he be successful in trying to secure more funds for the United States?

"President Barack Obama is scheduled to arrive in Tokyo on November 12, beginning his first trip to Asia as president. He will also travel to China, South Korea and Singapore, where he will take part in meetings of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) forum."

[link to www.brookings.edu]

Thanks!
Nancy Lieder SubscriberModerator
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11/7/2009 8:06 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

During and after the Pole Shift, many of us will lose loved ones. For those of us who believe in heaven or in reincarnation, we will be comforted that the human loved ones we lose will live on and that we might meet them again. My question relates to nonhuman loved ones who will die, such as dogs and cats. The Zetas say dogs and cats do not have souls, so what happens to their energies after death? Do these animals live on in some way? Will humans meet them again once we leave the physical plane?

SOZT
We have stated that only creatures who can contemplate themselves as individuals, who are conscious of themselves as such, can spark a soul. Dolphins, chimps, dogs, pigs, horses, and such, however sentient and loving, do NOT have this capacity. However, once a soul is sparked it can chose to incarnate into an animal, for a lesson or to be close to a loved one. The soul in all cases is treated as a human soul, or is a soul sparked on another world, as an entity from that world. It is not treated as a pet souls by the Spirit Guides.
EOZT

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 813061
11/7/2009 8:08 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

I urge all of you to go see The Fourth Kind so you'll know that these 'beings' you are communicating with are out to harm you. In Jesus mighty name, I BIND YOU EVIL, LYING SPIRITS! I'm sure I'll be banned now, so go out for yourselves & discover TRUTH!!!
Nancy Lieder SubscriberModerator
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11/7/2009 8:08 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

It's been said that we being in Afghanistan is fuel for what is basically just a civil war. With the earth changes looming, is Obama leaning towards getting those troops back for the emergencies about to occur in America?

SOZT
Obama is in a pinch, in that his campaign promise was to end the War in Iraq and give Afghanistan the attention is needs. Since Bush/Cheney stirred up a hornets nest over there, and Pakistan has the bomb and is not all that stable itself, he cannot simply walk away. He is listening to his military advisers, and will do whatever it takes to resolve the situation into something manageable.
EOZT
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
Nancy Lieder SubscriberModerator
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11/7/2009 8:10 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

Hints have been layed as to July 2010. Hints have been given as to,"get your coats & warm clothes ready"....

We are coming to a close of another magnetic trimester.

Are we at a 7 yet?

Thanks & many blessings......

NancyTalk: I am featuring this on tomorrows newsletter, which WILL be on the web in the archives when released tomorrow at
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Here’s that section.

July/August 2010

The Zetas are always asked for their interpretation of crop circles, and when they commented in the past on an August 2, 2008 crop circle they gave an odd response. The Zetas are notorious for withholding any kind of a timeline, so what were they doing referring to July 2010?

IMAGE: Furze Knoll 2008 [link to www.zetatalk.com]

Question: Can the Zetas comment on this crop circle? [link to www.cropcircleconnector.com]
Furze Knoll, reported 20th June.

ZetaTalk Answer 6/21/2008:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Looking like an interlocking YinYang symbol, or perhaps the symbol for infinity, this crop circle has been understood to have significant meaning by all who view it. What do the scallops mean around the edge, and why the count of 25 for the tiny dots found there? Once again this signifies the Figure 8 wobble that has been so well documented by Nancy during 2004-2005 and again confirmed in 2007 and 2008. Move ahead 25 months from June 20, 2008 and you arrive at late July, 2010. Make of this what you will!

I, Nancy, had been counting the scallops and wondering at their meaning, so presumably the Zetas were responding to an unspoken question in my head while giving their answer.

ZetaTalk Explanation 7/18/2009:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
We did an analysis of a 2008 crop circle that had a number of small circles around an edge, the Furze Knoll, reported June 20, 2008. Nancy counted them, and wondered what they represented, noting that if they were months they would point to a future date in 2010. We declined to address what these circles, small orbs, meant, and made the statement "make of that what you will". Thus, there is speculation that we gave a date, or confirmed the circles were months, which we did not.

Nevertheless, the mention of a date raised all manner of interest. Those wanting to know what the Zetas were referring to were advised to become contactees and get their answers first hand.

Question: On your comments about the Furze Knoll crop circle laid on June 20, 2008, you made the statement "Make of this what you will!." Is this a change from your former position to be closed mouthed about timing? This is implying that something major is going to be happening around July, 2010. Is this what you intended to relay?

ZetaTalk Answer 8/2/2008:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
You will note that we neither confirmed nor denied that the tiny dots represented months. Thus, our comments can be taken as a positive guideline to the common man, or as nonsense - a game.. Each person wanting personal guidance on how to prepare for the pole shift, to protect their loved ones most effectively, can ponder this crop diagram and thus pondering, give the Call. They can only benefit from this outreach.

There was one other time when a crop circle seemed to be implying a count, with little circles lined up around sides of a square. The August 8, 2003 Eastfield
[link to www.cropcircleconnector.com]
crop circle had 56 circles placed around a square, with an additional 6 circles twisting into the center of the square. There were altogether 6 sides to the square, which had overlapping sides. The little circles were shaped with a 23 tilt to them, like the Earth.

IMAGE: 23 Tilt [link to www.zetatalk.com]

Assuming the sides mean years, this 2003 crop circle counts to August 2, 2009, 6 years later. Assuming the circles mean months, this places the end of the 62 circle placements at October 2, 2009.

IMAGE: Eastfield 2003 [link to www.zetatalk.com]

What happened in early 2009, during the start of the period that might be represented by the twisted circles? The Earth’s magnetosphere began to have serious interference, blasts
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
from the N Pole of Planet X and such a strong push on September 29-30 that the Earth temporarily lost its S Pole while simultaneously being hammered by quakes in Samoa and Indonesia.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
The Earth’s magnetosphere is now being twisted
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
by the presence of Planet X. Is not September 30 close to October 2, 2009? Assuming that circles and scallops MEAN something, when present in a crop circle, and assuming that both circles and scallops mean months, when the crop circles are placed in the northern hemisphere where the Gregorian Calendar holds sway, then what, if anything, might be pending for late July, 2010? Where there is no confirmation for ANY timeline speculation from the Zetas, who explain that they are forbidden to give mankind the date, contactees are pointing to a timeframe close to the late July, 2010 date. Via email, I received this:

As I have mentioned to you before, my 19 year old daughter is a telepath and has a small group of Service-to-Other Zetas that she usually communicates with. Anyway, on September 15th she got a message that was then repeated a few more times over the next couple of days. The message was, "eleven and a half months". I guess to keep the required element of doubt they didn't elaborate but the message does seem obvious. My daughter didn't know about the trimesters but this would line up exactly with the end of August 2010.

Yes, the Zetas have stated that the pole shift will happen at the end of a magnetic trimester, which is at the end of an April, or an August, or a December. But lest we leap to conclusions and assume that this contactee is being given the date of the pole shift, which the visitors are FORBIDDEN from revealing, we should first assume that this might just be a time of significant change. Perhaps late July, 2010 is a time when another step up in the Earth changes will occur, and the end of August, 2010 a time of great earthquakes. Certainly, the end of August, 2009 was earthquake prone, and the summer trimester is the strongest.
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
Nancy Lieder SubscriberModerator
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11/7/2009 8:11 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

Is there a source of information on the same material as Zetatalk, that is considered equally valid as that website in the view of the Zetas?

SOZT
No.
EOZT
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
Nancy Lieder SubscriberModerator
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11/7/2009 8:12 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

Hi Nancy, A question I've thought about for a few years.

Right after the pole shift and a bit of settling, will the flying saucers be as common in the sky as jets are now?

SOZT
Absolutely. Such sightings will be considered a source of reassurance to survivors.
EOZT
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
Nancy Lieder SubscriberModerator
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11/7/2009 8:13 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

Over the years I have been visited by creatures of all types from jelly fish to pixies to grays of different types. But I don't know who they are or what they want. They seem to be guarding me. Are they my sperit guides or are they actualy other worldy aliens?

NancyTalk: this is a request for personal counseling which the Zetas do not do.
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
Nancy Lieder SubscriberModerator
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11/7/2009 8:16 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

Is Gov's using mind control on the people at present? An abundance of Chemtrails spreading over Colorado in association with Haarp?

SOZT
The US government, nor any other government or entity, does NOT have the capacity to exercise “mind control”.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Nor is there such a function as “HAARP”
[link to www.zetatalk.com] /govmt/g35.htm
which can produce earthquakes. There have been attempts in the past by the CIA and like enterprises to attain mind control, which have failed. Such rumors are spread by humans who wish mankind to have more power than it does, or are trying to intimidate other humans into inordinate respect for the government out of fear. If they HAD such power, they would be USING it, and as they are not, they are powerless in this regard.
EOZT
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 812437
11/7/2009 8:17 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

There are many in this world who are suffering from various health related problems. There are many who are not suffering from healt problems but feel they are simply left "hanging out to dry" and have given up hope. Many are "waiting in line" for their time of death.

Are the Zetas or any locally involved STO group willing to assist those in such emotional straits with euthanasia, for the sake of mercy?
Anonymous Coward
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11/7/2009 8:19 PM
Re: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat November 7Quote

Hi Nancy

I am hearing from different places that a very large gathering of ET craft are surrounding the Earth at the moment comprising of some 60 odd species, in about 2,000 mother ships, can you comment on this at all?
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