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If you're an Atheist, where do your morals come from? | |
| pud Offer Upgrade  User ID: 743297  United States11/11/2009 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| mystylplx User ID: 807177 United States11/11/2009 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The doctrine of reciprocity is a secular moral idea enunciated by such diverse people as Socrates and Confucius. Jesus also expressed it in what is known as The Golden Rule, but he certainly didn't invent it. Morals come from your heart. If you need religion to be moral that's a pretty sad statement. |
| Rocket Man User ID: 783923  Canada11/11/2009 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Morals from society would be religious, because this is a christian country, and laws are written based on the christian faith...at least the original laws were. Quoting: pudIf you're an atheist, where do you get your morals from? Do you feel obligated to have them at all? We do acts of good based on our own merit, not out of fear of a wrathful god. To me, thats the most hypocritical shallow way one can live his/her life. Some of the most immoral people I've met are religious types. Last Edited by Rocket Man on 11/11/2009 10:11 AM we are many |
| pud (OP) User ID: 743297 United States11/11/2009 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The doctrine of reciprocity is a secular moral idea enunciated by such diverse people as Socrates and Confucius. Jesus also expressed it in what is known as The Golden Rule, but he certainly didn't invent it. Quoting: mystylplxMorals come from your heart. If you need religion to be moral that's a pretty sad statement. I agree with your last statement, but many people seem to justify their morals because they're based on religious teachings. I'm just wondering if they'd have these morals, or feel obligated to practice them without religion. Pastor New Socks -- Putting the "stud" back into Bible Study! Christian Zionism does NOT equal Hypocritical Paradox! Who Will Jesus Damn? Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses: Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8) PRAISE! Ephesians 5:23_(King James Version)"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body." God-Fearing Christians, Heathens, and Zionist Dime Pieces may email me anytime at: [email protected] |
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| i User ID: 783199  United Kingdom11/11/2009 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well if you use your brain and then a very old fashioned idea of COMMON SENSE you have your answer. Do unto others as you would have done unto yourself. bit religious but a goody. People who live in glass houses dont throw stones. is another Oh its all too obvious just COMMON SENSE if you havnt got that and need to be lead then get some religion and you will not need to think anymore. evolve and conquer |
| pud (OP) User ID: 743297 United States11/11/2009 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Morals from society would be religious, because this is a christian country, and laws are written based on the christian faith...at least the original laws were. Quoting: Rocket ManIf you're an atheist, where do you get your morals from? Do you feel obligated to have them at all? We do acts of good based on our own merit, not out of fear of a wrathful god. To me, thats the most hypocritical shallow way one can live his/her life. Some of the most immoral people I've met are religious types. Hey Rocket Man! When you say "we", who do you mean? It just seems that society follows the laws of their country for reasons of "morality"...many people say..."it's the moral thing to do"...but the government created those laws based on Christian teachings. Pastor New Socks -- Putting the "stud" back into Bible Study! Christian Zionism does NOT equal Hypocritical Paradox! Who Will Jesus Damn? Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses: Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8) PRAISE! Ephesians 5:23_(King James Version)"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body." God-Fearing Christians, Heathens, and Zionist Dime Pieces may email me anytime at: [email protected] |
| pud (OP) User ID: 743297 United States11/11/2009 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well if you use your brain and then a very old fashioned idea of COMMON SENSE you have your answer. Do unto others as you would have done unto yourself. bit religious but a goody. People who live in glass houses dont throw stones. is another Oh its all too obvious just COMMON SENSE if you havnt got that and need to be lead then get some religion and you will not need to think anymore. Quoting: i 783199evolve and conquer "Common Sense" may be "common" to some people and not to others. don't you agree?  Pastor New Socks -- Putting the "stud" back into Bible Study! Christian Zionism does NOT equal Hypocritical Paradox! Who Will Jesus Damn? Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses: Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8) PRAISE! Ephesians 5:23_(King James Version)"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body." God-Fearing Christians, Heathens, and Zionist Dime Pieces may email me anytime at: [email protected] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 815161  France11/11/2009 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | some people realized, many hundreds of years before jesus, that doing unto others as you would like to be done unto was a pretty decent starting point. How do 2 year old kids together in nursery generally know not to hit each other and steal each others toys, without being explicity told or threatened with punishment, before all that as in just their natural, default state? we, on the whole, do not want to naturally upset each other. that changes later on. how's that A6 treating ya Pud? worked out the on-board computer yet? |
| mystylplx User ID: 807177 United States11/11/2009 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm just wondering if they'd have these morals, or feel obligated to practice them without religion. Quoting: pudI think for some people religion can be a crutch toward morality, but if it's not in their hearts that's all it will be is a crutch. Quite simply it's the difference between not doing something because you know in your heart that it's wrong, and not doing it because you are afraid of getting caught or being punished. The former will be moral simply because it's who they are--the later will be moral right up until they think no one is looking... This is not to say that this is how it is for all religious people. Some religious people are attracted to religion because it teaches what their hearts are already telling them. |
| pud (OP) User ID: 743297 United States11/11/2009 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | some people realized, many hundreds of years before jesus, that doing unto others as you would like to be done unto was a pretty decent starting point. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 815161How do 2 year old kids together in nursery generally know not to hit each other and steal each others toys, without being explicity told or threatened with punishment, before all that as in just their natural, default state? we, on the whole, do not want to naturally upset each other. that changes later on. how's that A6 treating ya Pud? worked out the on-board computer yet? Hey there! Yup, it's all set up! God, I love this car! Last Edited by NewSocks on 11/11/2009 10:27 AM Pastor New Socks -- Putting the "stud" back into Bible Study! Christian Zionism does NOT equal Hypocritical Paradox! Who Will Jesus Damn? Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses: Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8) PRAISE! Ephesians 5:23_(King James Version)"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body." God-Fearing Christians, Heathens, and Zionist Dime Pieces may email me anytime at: [email protected] |
| Bob User ID: 673258 United States11/11/2009 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think for some people religion can be a crutch toward morality, but if it's not in their hearts that's all it will be is a crutch. Quite simply it's the difference between not doing something because you know in your heart that it's wrong, and not doing it because you are afraid of getting caught or being punished. The former will be moral simply because it's who they are--the later will be moral right up until they think no one is looking... Quoting: mystylplxThis is not to say that this is how it is for all religious people. Some religious people are attracted to religion because it teaches what their hearts are already telling them. Well I'm saying it. Religious people are only -good- as long as they think Gaud is watching. Ever see a bible thumber lose faith? BAM! They suddenly go out and 'sin' all over the place. I'm a moral and decent guy because I am, not because a sky-beard threatens to send me to hell when I die. That is, until TPTB take over. Then I'm selling all of you out so fast you'll get whiplash. If you see something, say nothing, and drink to forget. Welcome to Night Vale. |
| pud (OP) User ID: 743297 United States11/11/2009 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm just wondering if they'd have these morals, or feel obligated to practice them without religion. Quoting: mystylplxI think for some people religion can be a crutch toward morality, but if it's not in their hearts that's all it will be is a crutch. Quite simply it's the difference between not doing something because you know in your heart that it's wrong, and not doing it because you are afraid of getting caught or being punished. The former will be moral simply because it's who they are--the later will be moral right up until they think no one is looking... This is not to say that this is how it is for all religious people. Some religious people are attracted to religion because it teaches what their hearts are already telling them. I agree with you about religion being a crutch for many. it's so unfortunate... Pastor New Socks -- Putting the "stud" back into Bible Study! Christian Zionism does NOT equal Hypocritical Paradox! Who Will Jesus Damn? Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses: Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8) PRAISE! Ephesians 5:23_(King James Version)"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body." God-Fearing Christians, Heathens, and Zionist Dime Pieces may email me anytime at: [email protected] |
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| pud (OP) User ID: 743297 United States11/11/2009 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My morals come from me. Quoting: lime flavouredIf I think something is wrong, I wont do it. Were they taught to you by your parents or school, or are they truly from your heart? This thread is becoming quite interesting! Pastor New Socks -- Putting the "stud" back into Bible Study! Christian Zionism does NOT equal Hypocritical Paradox! Who Will Jesus Damn? Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses: Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8) PRAISE! Ephesians 5:23_(King James Version)"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body." God-Fearing Christians, Heathens, and Zionist Dime Pieces may email me anytime at: [email protected] |
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| pud (OP) User ID: 743297 United States11/11/2009 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OH shucks, you atheist are so Quoting: Anonymous Coward 548940SELF-RIGHTEOUS You still abide by the old laws, governments and judicial systems were founded on, you are just brain dead. You really have enormous egos, that is why I can't stand you. Who's an atheist in this thread? BTW, weren't the "old laws" founded on Christian "morals"? That's the whole point of this thread.  Pastor New Socks -- Putting the "stud" back into Bible Study! Christian Zionism does NOT equal Hypocritical Paradox! Who Will Jesus Damn? Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses: Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8) PRAISE! Ephesians 5:23_(King James Version)"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body." God-Fearing Christians, Heathens, and Zionist Dime Pieces may email me anytime at: [email protected] |
| Bombinhillz User ID: 665912 United States11/11/2009 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Morals from society would be religious, because this is a christian country, and laws are written based on the christian faith...at least the original laws were. Quoting: Rocket ManIf you're an atheist, where do you get your morals from? Do you feel obligated to have them at all? We do acts of good based on our own merit, not out of fear of a wrathful god. To me, thats the most hypocritical shallow way one can live his/her life. Some of the most immoral people I've met are religious types.  "of a world thats doing its best, night and day, to make me everybody else" "We are the facilitators of our own creative evolution."-Bill Hicks. |
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| pud (OP) User ID: 743297 United States11/11/2009 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP = No common sense. Use your imagination. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 621262Define "common sense". Pastor New Socks -- Putting the "stud" back into Bible Study! Christian Zionism does NOT equal Hypocritical Paradox! Who Will Jesus Damn? Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses: Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8) PRAISE! Ephesians 5:23_(King James Version)"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body." God-Fearing Christians, Heathens, and Zionist Dime Pieces may email me anytime at: [email protected] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 736738 United States11/11/2009 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What a scary and very telling question. The answer is that morals come from experience, compassion, and basic logic. I take it your religious. Do you really think that your religion is where your morals come from? What if your religion is made up? Do your morals then, not exist? |
| mystylplx User ID: 807177 United States11/11/2009 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BTW, weren't the "old laws" founded on Christian "morals"? Quoting: pudThat's the whole point of this thread. Depends on how far back you go. It would be just as possible to argue that "old laws" were expressions of conscience that got tied up with religious doctrine. I think "morality" (as I see it) is based on the ability to empathize with other beings. Those who have empathy will just naturally be moral. Those who don't will need a bunch of rules laid out for them because that's the only way they'll know the difference. And there does seem to be a biological mechanism behind empathy. -- [link to scienceandreason.blogspot.com] Last Edited by Bill Loney on 11/11/2009 11:03 AM |
| pud (OP) User ID: 743297 United States11/11/2009 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What a scary and very telling question. The answer is that morals come from experience, compassion, and basic logic. I take it your religious. Do you really think that your religion is where your morals come from? What if your religion is made up? Do your morals then, not exist? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 736738I'm not a follower of any specific religion. I don't think I believe in one almighty God either. I had a thread yesterday about possibly becoming a Buddhist...that's basically where my beliefs lie. That being said, I haven't given an answer yet about where my "morals" come from. I'm really not sure, that's why. I wanted to get a feeling of what others believe, sometimes you can find your own answers through others. Pastor New Socks -- Putting the "stud" back into Bible Study! Christian Zionism does NOT equal Hypocritical Paradox! Who Will Jesus Damn? Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses: Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8) PRAISE! Ephesians 5:23_(King James Version)"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body." God-Fearing Christians, Heathens, and Zionist Dime Pieces may email me anytime at: [email protected] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 815895 Canada11/11/2009 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Man with his religions and morals is the only animal to kill for fun and power. the Bonobo(Pygmy Chimpanzee) often is capable of altruism, compassion, empathy, kindness, patience, and sensitivity. How peaceful bonobos are has been disputed by some, but in general scientists agree with these assessments and fact remains that thus far there are no confirmed observations of lethal aggression among bonobos, neither in the wild nor in captivity. can the same be said of man with his religions and so called moral codes. So what we call morals are actual animal traits. It is the religions that make us the monsters we are. |
| pud (OP) User ID: 743297 United States11/11/2009 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Man with his religions and morals is the only animal to kill for fun and power. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 815895the Bonobo(Pygmy Chimpanzee) often is capable of altruism, compassion, empathy, kindness, patience, and sensitivity. How peaceful bonobos are has been disputed by some, but in general scientists agree with these assessments and fact remains that thus far there are no confirmed observations of lethal aggression among bonobos, neither in the wild nor in captivity. can the same be said of man with his religions and so called moral codes. So what we call morals are actual animal traits. It is the religions that make us the monsters we are. Nice post! Pastor New Socks -- Putting the "stud" back into Bible Study! Christian Zionism does NOT equal Hypocritical Paradox! Who Will Jesus Damn? Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses: Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8) PRAISE! Ephesians 5:23_(King James Version)"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body." God-Fearing Christians, Heathens, and Zionist Dime Pieces may email me anytime at: [email protected] |
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