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snark

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Wow. His power-trip is just gettin' revved up.
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No fuckin' way.
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Way.
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Absolute 100% bullshit.
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Wow!
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 Quoting: Aquarius 7

Oh, yes! Barry is mad with power and he ain't gonna stop!!
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The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis
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what a dictator using his chicago politics. He's for sure a gangster
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11/12/2009 02:33 PM

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It isn't even legal.
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AND...the purge is RETROACTIVE FOR 5 YEARS. Way to save or create jobs, Barry.
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The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis
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11/12/2009 02:36 PM
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Idiot. If anything they're making it more difficult for Democrats to move from appointed to civil service positions:

"While political appointees may not be excluded from consideration for Federal jobs because of their political affiliation, they must not be given preference or special advantages."

This kind of mendacity will be the death of the US. Yes, I'm looking at you.
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11/12/2009 02:36 PM
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This is how a dictatorship works.
For a little double standard history, let's remember that Bill Clinton fired all (every single one) of the 93 attornies general and the media didn't bat an eye. Bush fired 8 of them and was lambasted as some sort of power drunk facist dictator.
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From the OPM memo:
In no case may an agency make an appointment of the type described below without written authorization from OPM:

1. The appointment of a current political Schedule A or Schedule C Executive Branch employee or a former political Schedule A or Schedule C Executive Branch employee who held the position within the last five years to a competitive or non-political excepted service position under title 5 of the U.S. Code.

2. The appointment of a current Non-career SES Executive Branch employee or a former Non-career SES Executive Branch employee who held the position within the last five years to a competitive or non-political excepted service position under title 5 of the U.S. Code.
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The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis
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For a little double standard history, let's remember that Bill Clinton fired all (every single one) of the 93 attornies general and the media didn't bat an eye.

Bush fired 8 of them and was lambasted as some sort of power drunk facist dictator.


 Quoting: Resister

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aq bee

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11/12/2009 02:42 PM
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Every administration has a lot of political appointees "burrow in" and convert to career civil servants before the president's term expires.

I've never heard of the next administration doing anything to try to dig them out, that's practically impossible, legally.

I bet there's going to be a big legal battle over this new OPM rule being made retroactive to the past administration.
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11/12/2009 02:44 PM
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From the OPM memo:
In no case may an agency make an appointment of the type described below without written authorization from OPM:

1. The appointment of a current political Schedule A or Schedule C Executive Branch employee or a former political Schedule A or Schedule C Executive Branch employee who held the position within the last five years to a competitive or non-political excepted service position under title 5 of the U.S. Code.

2. The appointment of a current Non-career SES Executive Branch employee or a former Non-career SES Executive Branch employee who held the position within the last five years to a competitive or non-political excepted service position under title 5 of the U.S. Code.
 Quoting: snark


So where does that say anything about purging Republicans? Most of the positions in question are held by Dems. The Publicans left with Bush, not caring to serve under a Socialist.
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Absolute 100% bullshit.
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Really? Guess you will have to prove that, since this is right in line with everything else he is up to.
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11/12/2009 02:46 PM

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From the OPM memo:
In no case may an agency make an appointment of the type described below without written authorization from OPM:

1. The appointment of a current political Schedule A or Schedule C Executive Branch employee or a former political Schedule A or Schedule C Executive Branch employee who held the position within the last five years to a competitive or non-political excepted service position under title 5 of the U.S. Code.

2. The appointment of a current Non-career SES Executive Branch employee or a former Non-career SES Executive Branch employee who held the position within the last five years to a competitive or non-political excepted service position under title 5 of the U.S. Code.


So where does that say anything about purging Republicans? Most of the positions in question are held by Dems. The Publicans left with Bush, not caring to serve under a Socialist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373696

What party do you think most of the people covered in the memo belong to? Republicans.
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The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis
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11/12/2009 02:48 PM
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From the OPM memo:
In no case may an agency make an appointment of the type described below without written authorization from OPM:

1. The appointment of a current political Schedule A or Schedule C Executive Branch employee or a former political Schedule A or Schedule C Executive Branch employee who held the position within the last five years to a competitive or non-political excepted service position under title 5 of the U.S. Code.

2. The appointment of a current Non-career SES Executive Branch employee or a former Non-career SES Executive Branch employee who held the position within the last five years to a competitive or non-political excepted service position under title 5 of the U.S. Code.


So where does that say anything about purging Republicans? Most of the positions in question are held by Dems. The Publicans left with Bush, not caring to serve under a Socialist.

What party do you think most of the people covered in the memo belong to? Republicans.
 Quoting: snark

I just told you what I think. Prove me wrong, name three current Republican appointees who want to be civil servants.
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11/12/2009 02:48 PM
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It's illegal. Time to impeach and class action.
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11/12/2009 02:51 PM
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From the OPM memo:
In no case may an agency make an appointment of the type described below without written authorization from OPM:

1. The appointment of a current political Schedule A or Schedule C Executive Branch employee or a former political Schedule A or Schedule C Executive Branch employee who held the position within the last five years to a competitive or non-political excepted service position under title 5 of the U.S. Code.

2. The appointment of a current Non-career SES Executive Branch employee or a former Non-career SES Executive Branch employee who held the position within the last five years to a competitive or non-political excepted service position under title 5 of the U.S. Code.


So where does that say anything about purging Republicans? Most of the positions in question are held by Dems. The Publicans left with Bush, not caring to serve under a Socialist.

What party do you think most of the people covered in the memo belong to? Republicans.

I just told you what I think. Prove me wrong, name three current Republican appointees who want to be civil servants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373696


They won't answer you, they're too busy running in circles and pulling at their hair to actually pay attention to the memo.
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From the OPM memo:
In no case may an agency make an appointment of the type described below without written authorization from OPM:

1. The appointment of a current political Schedule A or Schedule C Executive Branch employee or a former political Schedule A or Schedule C Executive Branch employee who held the position within the last five years to a competitive or non-political excepted service position under title 5 of the U.S. Code.

2. The appointment of a current Non-career SES Executive Branch employee or a former Non-career SES Executive Branch employee who held the position within the last five years to a competitive or non-political excepted service position under title 5 of the U.S. Code.


So where does that say anything about purging Republicans? Most of the positions in question are held by Dems. The Publicans left with Bush, not caring to serve under a Socialist.

What party do you think most of the people covered in the memo belong to? Republicans.

I just told you what I think. Prove me wrong, name three current Republican appointees who want to be civil servants.
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Can you read? This memo applies to people who are ALREADY civil servants, back 5 years, in addition to new hires.
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The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis
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It's illegal. Time to impeach and class action.
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Agreed. Who's gonna do it?
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Every administration has a lot of political appointees "burrow in" and convert to career civil servants before the president's term expires.

I've never heard of the next administration doing anything to try to dig them out, that's practically impossible, legally.

I bet there's going to be a big legal battle over this new OPM rule being made retroactive to the past administration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 801158


It happened during Clintons administration and he got away with it without any major media mess and barely a whimper from Republicans.
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Obama will get away with it too.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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don't you have secret ballots in America. How does anyone know about your political affiliation? Unless of course you tell them, but if you keep quiet about it, how will anyone ever know?

(suspending the discussions about free elections for another day)
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It's illegal. Time to impeach and class action.
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You are assuming that the law is relevant. It's not. They don't give a flying fart about the law or the constitution it is founded on. Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and all the kings horses are running a dictatorship now. Nothing short of a sea change in congress in 2010 and a return to the basic priniciples of our mostly dead Republic is going to change that now.

If 2010 does not see a massive turnover in both the House and Senate there will either be civil war or the humiliating final death of the sickly remains of our once proud Republic.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Does that fuckatard Obama actually believe he can IGNORE 70% of the country and they will just go away?

Every person I talk to hates him, except impressionable ignorant black people. Not all black people mind you.
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I love how almost nobody in this thread read the actual memo. Just a bunch of sheep.
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I'm thinking we need to purge his ass from civil service.
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