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If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...

 
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If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind I am afraid I will never ascend because I cannot leave my loved ones behind. My soul is ready to ascend but it cannot ascend without my loved ones.

I am stuck on this mortal plain because my love is too great.

I cannot leave them here alone. I will not leave them here alone.
Open your mind. Your perception of reality is about to change.
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11/12/2009 02:33 PM
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
I feel the same way about my cat
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
That's your choice. And it implies that you are still stuck in the physical.
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11/12/2009 02:34 PM
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
yes it means leaving everything behind

even yourself , leaving the earthly "you" who you know yourself to be
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
That's your choice. And it implies that you are still stuck in the physical.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 809462

But surely that can't mean that I will be stuck in the physical forever?
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
all i gotta do is pack up myself and my two kids, and i'm so OUTTA HERE!!
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
and OP , it is not love , it is fear

your fear is too great to leave them
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11/12/2009 02:37 PM
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
and OP , it is not love , it is fear

your fear is too great to leave them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 804894

How can anyone ascend and know that they are leaving those that loved them while everyone else turned there backs to them. How can anyone ascend and in good consciousness be happy with the choice they made.

My love for my family, friends and everyone else is too great to be so selfish.
Open your mind. Your perception of reality is about to change.
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
if you would love yourself and them

you would leave them without a blink of an eye
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11/12/2009 02:39 PM
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
It may be fear but it is not fear for myself. It is love and fear.
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
and OP , it is not love , it is fear

your fear is too great to leave them

How can anyone ascend and know that they are leaving those that loved them while everyone else turned there backs to them. How can anyone ascend and in good consciousness be happy with the choice they made.

My love for my family, friends and everyone else is too great to be so selfish.
 Quoting: Blitz



And yet you talk of understanding oneness?

There is a far greater love waiting.
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
The knowledge I have... or the lack of knowledge I have is a blessing and a curse.
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11/12/2009 02:42 PM
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
and OP , it is not love , it is fear

your fear is too great to leave them

How can anyone ascend and know that they are leaving those that loved them while everyone else turned there backs to them. How can anyone ascend and in good consciousness be happy with the choice they made.

My love for my family, friends and everyone else is too great to be so selfish.



And yet you talk of understanding oneness?

There is a far greater love waiting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 809462

I am beginning to understand oneness just like everyone else is. Are my loved ones given the chance to be a part of that?

Will the things I have to show and teach them be enough?
Open your mind. Your perception of reality is about to change.
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
and OP , it is not love , it is fear

your fear is too great to leave them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 804894


exactly. it may be love in the OP's case, but love as a force of attraction. Love as a "force" is a contradiction (it is in fact fear), because true love is gentle, not forceful. True love allows others to stay where they need to be, and you move on hoping to see them later once they are ready. It is a love for all things, not just a few people in your life. A lot of people think that attraction is the same as Love with capital L. It isn't. Attraction is just you being attracted to those people that you resonate with. They have the same level of vibration, thus you feel compelled to stay with them...thus you believe that you love them , and you do, but it is a lower-level incarnation of universal love. You must love yourself as well. As much as I love my friends, it seems that I cannot help them with waking up if they don't want to in the first place, and so I must move on. There are those who want help and they will be needing us once TSHTF.
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
Why do you feel they would not ascend as well?
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
and OP , it is not love , it is fear

your fear is too great to leave them

How can anyone ascend and know that they are leaving those that loved them while everyone else turned there backs to them. How can anyone ascend and in good consciousness be happy with the choice they made.

My love for my family, friends and everyone else is too great to be so selfish.
 Quoting: Blitz


You best be trolling,

Its good you love your friends and family but your vibration and your interest in ''alternative'' knowledge prepares you for living in 5th dimensional excistence, you are ''higher'' with soul development then most people you know.

You have no choice !

But you will be ready when something will happen, I hope I will
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
Some days I just understand everything so clearly... others I just feel like I know nothing :(
Open your mind. Your perception of reality is about to change.
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
If you love something, set it free. If it comes back, it is yours, if it doesn't, it never was.

Free will. Choices. Each of us are given the options.
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11/12/2009 02:45 PM
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
well, have some hope that there is a creator with a promise of when you die a ressurection back to yourself. so you can still be with loved ones. what a gift. all you need to do is follow some laws to keep peace. who would do that?
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11/12/2009 02:46 PM
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
Why do you feel they would not ascend as well?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 802124

Because the preparation I have undergone and the knowledge I have been seeking is revealing itself to me. I just don't know yet if everyone has to seek this knowledge. I have to look out for all my brothers and sisters....

but how do I do that...
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
Ascending does not mean leaving the physical but gaining Christ/Cosmic/Unity Conciousness.

There are many on this planet that have already "Ascended" and they are here right now
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11/12/2009 02:48 PM
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
Some days I just understand everything so clearly... others I just feel like I know nothing :(
 Quoting: Blitz


Blitz honey...I totally understand what you mean. I only have one person in my life I would die for and that's my son. I would not want to leave him for anything to think of it breaks my heart.

It is freewill tho honey...I feel there will come a time when we have to make a choice...in your heart you will know the right one.

hf
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
Ascending does not mean leaving the physical but gaining Christ/Cosmic/Unity Conciousness.

There are many on this planet that have already "Ascended" and they are here right now
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 816814

I hope you are right. I would love to be able to have the best of both worlds. Ascension and be able to share that with everyone I know.

If I have one wish in this world this is it.

I don't want money. I don't want TV's.

I want to ascend and share that with everyone.
Open your mind. Your perception of reality is about to change.
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11/12/2009 02:51 PM
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
well good thing ascending and light and all that is total and utter bullshit! otherwise, you might have a worry.
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11/12/2009 02:51 PM
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
What is ascension?
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
well good thing ascending and light and all that is total and utter bullshit! otherwise, you might have a worry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 815299

I don't think it's bullshit. I think the term ascension has been to understood first.

Maybe I am thinking of ascension all wrong... maybe most of us are...

I don't know...
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
You love the relationship they have with you, but failing to realize that you ARE the other also! Nothing lasts but nothing is lost.. hf
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
why not stay in hell and make sure every1else is ok. surely if you were to ascend you would do so in a more pure way taking this unknowledgable view. like a child
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11/12/2009 02:53 PM
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
Ascension is the final act of leaving this physical realm completely. Your soul's "graduation".
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11/12/2009 02:54 PM

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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
Ascending does not mean leaving the physical but gaining Christ/Cosmic/Unity Conciousness.

There are many on this planet that have already "Ascended" and they are here right now
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 816814



that is very true. a lot of people think that ascending means we go off the planet in a "beam me up" style. ascension is more like a final transition, a transformation of consciousness. the physical world will always be there for us, however it is very possible that once your perspective changes, then everything around you will change as well. so ascending may very wlel transport you to a higher dimension, a higher density where things will be different. you may look behind and see the 'old' world where you used to live, but not necessarily in another place or another time, though I have collected evidence to believe that a lot of us are going to a 5D Earth set ~300 years in this timeline's future. Another batch of souls will experience the New World Order during the ~300 year period we skipped. Al Bielek talks about this NWO that will take over the planet. It won't be evil, but it will be one of those highly controlled technological societies. Lagy Gaga's symbolism is all about the "zeitgeist" of this new society ahead of some of us. I also have reasons to believe that it will be a female dominated society.
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Re: If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...
I ask the cosmos to assist us in understanding the term ascension. There is fear in this word for some of us.

Please help us understand this term and help us relieve ourselves of the fear behind this word...

The knowledge I have obtained... what am i supposed to do with it.

Oh great God (source) please help.

hf
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