If ascension means leaving my loved ones behind...

I don't believe this.
I believe Love is ascension.

This is very important. I have forgiven myself and everyone else that has done this to me.

sure it is.. But universal love.

Only god can forgive people.

You are choosing what passes for love here 9 in it's limited forms) over the Greater love of ALL.

BWAHAHA

there is no God

WE ARE GOD OF THIS WORLD


thus God forgives himself

I FORGIVE MYSELF

DUMB

Blitz

All with loving hearts will ascend. You do not have to be fully enlightened, so relax. Even the dark ones will be met with love and understanding in their new world. Peopleare not going to be punished for a few mistakes as we have all been the good, the bad and the ugly. I suspect our animals we love will be there as well. The earth will ne the same with more colors and a higher vibration of love.

I kow it gets confusing at times but try not to waiver. Be in joy and trust the creator of all that is.

no you will reincarnate until you realize that everyone has a path.

I think that is a possibility, but we must not let statements like that cloud our judgment incase that statement is incorrect. If i stand before God and I am looking in a mirror image of myself I will accept that for what it is.

If I stand before a great sentient being I will not deny him.

That doesn't sound all that bad at all.

why not?

I don't have any higher beings above me.
I will question the fucker if he says he is higher , and i will prove that he is equal to me as im standing there and he is with me.

The path that people are on has been cluttered with lies and with materialist items and greed.

Keep an open mind and don't rush to conclusions so quickly.

because i have an open mind i will question

"higher" beings do exist to the extent that they understand even better than us that they are not superior in any way to us, and that there are really no superior beings. any "higher" being that demands worship is actually a "lesser" being trying to prey on your energy.

Last Edited by gus. on 11/12/2009 03:50 PM

I have pondered this question too Blitz.

There is still not enough information to make a
definite decision. It is no wonder you are asking
more questions that will allow you to form a definite answer.

I dont claim to know the answer myself.

If it turns out like this .....then i'll do this
or if this...then that.


If it means completely leaving the physical then i'll choose to stay until my kids can care for themselves.

Its true after death of a time of your chosing or not you probably have to leave all the things of the physical and your family. Some say if u choose to stay you'll be an earthbound spirit...etc.

Some others in NDEs choose to come back for their family and kids and other works they must accomplish.

another perspective is if you ascend you should still be able to meet your family one day again, just like after death.

WHAT KIND OF MONSTER ARE YOU?!

I don't believe that there is anything wrong with questioning. God allows us to have those questions but don't be so quick to come up with conclusions because conclusions can be altered with new knowledge.

I think that was a joke. :) I am free thinking monster that doesn't need materialistic items to provide me with answers. The answers I seek will not be found on CNN.

Last Edited by Blitz on 11/12/2009 04:02 PM

hey whats up man/woman, hah hope you're doing well and I hope you get this. You say you cannot leave them here alone and at the same time you say your soul is ready to ascend. My bro/sis these are contradicting statements. if you were ready to 'ascend' whatever that may imply you wouldn't fear 'leaving' your loved ones, because you would know that you wouldn't actually be leaving them. In fact you would be closer to them as when you achieve ascension you align with the greater oneness or unity of all. As you align with your greater self (higher consciousness) you will know more of this.

I am just beginning to really come to realization of these things and there is a lot of videos on youtube you can refer to in these things.

My sister here explains death pretty well and I believe it is somewhat related to your topic at hand. Please take a look :)
[link to www.youtube.com]

I wish you the best of luck as I ran into this post accidentally and had the urge to answer through my own opinion I probably wont be on here again. With that I 'leave' you and the rest of the posters, but you should really ask have I really 'left' you? or even Is this our first 'meeting'? since we are all one in the end :)