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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 815854
 United States
11/13/2009 10:51 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
I sure do. It's been quite a transition for this country to go from one of the best Americans of all time running the show to one of the worst (Obama).
The other night I had a dream that Dubs was still president only to be extremely disappointed when I awoke to realize that the nightmare of Comrade Obama's rule is, in fact, reality.
God, I hope Jeb runs in 2012. Quoting: Guns n' God (redux)
why don't you line up for victor and jeff?
it'll be the first time in your life you ever suck seed. |
| mystylplx
User ID: 807177
United States
11/13/2009 10:54 PM
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I sure do. It's been quite a transition for this country to go from one of the best Americans of all time running the show to one of the worst (Obama).
The other night I had a dream that Dubs was still president only to be extremely disappointed when I awoke to realize that the nightmare of Comrade Obama's rule is, in fact, reality.
God, I hope Jeb runs in 2012.
why don't you line up for victor and jeff?
it'll be the first time in your life you ever suck seed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 815854
Somehow I get the feeling it won't be the first time... |
| sd1975
User ID: 786565
United States
11/13/2009 10:56 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
Sure, Bush had his flaws but he had a great persona...he was funny...he came across as the inspector closeau of presidents but he really didn't screw things up for us until the end. He did one thing that Obama has not done and it makes all the difference in the world...he has maintained the pride and dignity of the soverignty of the United States of America ...Obama is giving it all away to foreigners and taking whats left to himself...to be fair I was overall disappointed by Bush, I think he did not live up to his potential...he could have been one of the greatest presidents this country had but he sold out in the end...but our new president (Obama)...I really can't stand him one iota. I didn't like Clinton that much either....but I would take back Clinton anyday over Obama...Obama is an asshole.
'This is the strangest life I've ever known'...James Douglas Morrison |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
 Australia
11/13/2009 11:00 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
What I find puzzling is the people I know who do not believe a word the government says about anything except 9/11 the false flag. For reasons that escape me, they believe that the government that lies to them about everything else told them the truth about 9/11. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 800472
United States
11/13/2009 11:01 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
Sure, Bush had his flaws but he had a great persona...he was funny...he came across as the inspector closeau of presidents but he really didn't screw things up for us until the end. He did one thing that Obama has not done and it makes all the difference in the world...he has maintained the pride and dignity of the soverignty of the United States of America ...Obama is giving it all away to foreigners and taking whats left to himself...to be fair I was overall disappointed by Bush, I think he did not live up to his potential...he could have been one of the greatest presidents this country had but he sold out in the end...but our new president (Obama)...I really can't stand him one iota. I didn't like Clinton that much either....but I would take back Clinton anyday over Obama...Obama is an asshole. Quoting: sd1975
9/11 was an inside job though |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 815854
United States
11/13/2009 11:02 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
I sure do. It's been quite a transition for this country to go from one of the best Americans of all time running the show to one of the worst (Obama).
The other night I had a dream that Dubs was still president only to be extremely disappointed when I awoke to realize that the nightmare of Comrade Obama's rule is, in fact, reality.
God, I hope Jeb runs in 2012.
why don't you line up for victor and jeff?
it'll be the first time in your life you ever suck seed.
Somehow I get the feeling it won't be the first time... Quoting: mystylplx
that very well may be true.
he stinks like log cabin republican. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:02 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
Sure, Bush had his flaws but he had a great persona...he was funny...he came across as the inspector closeau of presidents but he really didn't screw things up for us until the end. He did one thing that Obama has not done and it makes all the difference in the world...he has maintained the pride and dignity of the soverignty of the United States of America ...Obama is giving it all away to foreigners and taking whats left to himself...to be fair I was overall disappointed by Bush, I think he did not live up to his potential...he could have been one of the greatest presidents this country had but he sold out in the end...but our new president (Obama)...I really can't stand him one iota. I didn't like Clinton that much either....but I would take back Clinton anyday over Obama...Obama is an asshole. Quoting: sd1975
Bush sold out to the zionists in the beginning, the middle and the end. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:03 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
George W. Bush, 43rd President of the United States, will be speaking in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan at TCU Place on Wednesday, October 21, 2009.
This group has been formed for the people of Saskatchewan and beyond who believe that George W. Bush is a war criminal and that he should not be welcome in our province except with a pair of handcuffs and a ticket to the international criminal court.
As president of the United States, Bush presided over one of the most unpopular presidencies both within the US and around the world. He turned widespread sympathy for the people of America after the 9-11 attacks into fear, disgust and disbelief at the execution of the so-called "War on Terror" which included the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq.
The charges of war crimes, which are now being researched and carried forward by hundreds of lawyers and activists of all political stripes within the US and around the world, arise from invasion of Iraq - now widely acknowledged to have been started under false pretenses and in breach of the UN Charter and international law. The war in Iraq has claimed lives of Iraqis estimated to number in the hundreds of thousands to over a million. In addition, more than 4000 US soldiers have perished with tens of thousands more injured.
Under the Bush administration, illegal detention, torture and extraordinary rendition became official policy and the world watched in horror as the conditions within prisons such as Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay were revealed. Geneva Conventions were thrown out the door and George W. Bush and his cohorts attempted to elevate themselves above the law.
For these and other reasons too numerous to count, we will oppose George W. Bush's visit to Saskatoon and make our message heard to the people of the world "George W. Bush is not welcome in Saskatoon". We have a conscience and we will not let the visit of a war criminal go unnoticed and unopposed.
We reject the nightmarish world built upon hatred and fear that the Bush administration laid out for us. Instead we choose to build a future based on the dignity of all human beings and respect for life.
Please join us.
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[link to www.thestarphoenix.com]
Bush protest in works
Ex-president's visit to Saskatoon sparks opposition group |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:04 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
The 9/11 Commission Rejects own Report as Based on Government Lies
Gordon Duff Salem-News.com
How long have we watered the Tree of Deceit with the blood of patriots?
The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America’s Defense on 9/11
John Farmer’s book: “The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America’s Defense on 9/11″
(CINCINNATI, Ohio) - In John Farmer’s book: “The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America’s Defense on 9/11″, the author builds the inescapably convincing case that the official version... is almost entirely untrue...
The 9/11 Commission now tells us that the official version of 9/11 was based on false testimony and documents and is almost entirely untrue. The details of this massive cover-up are carefully outlined in a book by John Farmer, who was the Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission.
Farmer, Dean of Rutger Universities' School of Law and former Attorney General of New Jersey, was responsible for drafting the original flawed 9/11 report.
Does Farmer have cooperation and agreement from other members of the Commission? Yes. Did they say Bush ordered 9/11? No. Do they say that the 9/11 Commission was lied to by the FBI, CIA, Whitehouse and NORAD? Yes. Is there full documentary proof of this? Yes.
Farmer states...“at some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened... I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The [Norad air defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. This is not spin.”
The 9/11 Commission head, Thomas Kean, was the Republican governor of New Jersey. He had the following to say... “We to this day don’t know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth. . . " When Bush's own handpicked commission failed to go along with the cover up and requested a criminal investigation, why was nothing done?
9/11 Commission member and former US Senator, Bob Kerrey, says, "No one is more qualified to write the definitive book about the tragedy of 9/11 than John Farmer. Fortunately, he has done so. Even more fortunately the language is clear, alive and instructive for anyone who wants to make certain this never happens again."
With the only "official" 9/11 report now totally false, where do we go from here? Who is hurt by these lies? The families of the victims of 9/11 have fought, for years, to get to the truth. For years, our government has hidden behind lies and secrecy to deny them closure.
In 2006, The Washington Post reported..."Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources. Staff members and some commissioners thought that e-mails and other evidence provided enough probable cause to believe that military and aviation officials violated the law by making false statements to Congress and to the commission..."
What does Farmer's book tell us? Farmer offers no solutions, only a total and full rejection of what was told and his own his own ideas concerning the total failure of honesty on the part of the government, a government with something to hide.
Documentary on PTSD Needs Help to Reach Completion (VIDEO)
Farmer never tells us what. Nobody could keep a job in the public sector speaking out more than Farmer has. What were Farmer's omissions? There are some. Now that we know that intelligence given the 9/11 Commission wasn't just lies from our own government but based on testimony coerced through torture from informants forced to back up a cover story now proven false, a pattern emerges.
We know that, immediately after 9/11, many more potential suspects and informants were flown directly to Saudi Arabia by Presidential order than were ever detained and questioned. We will never know what they could have said. Their testimony would have been vital to any real investigation were they not put beyond the reach of even Congress and the FBI.
Putting aside all other questions of recent evidence of CIA involvement with bin Laden prior to 9/11 or altered physical evidence involving the Pentagon attack, any failure to call to account the systematic perjury committed by dozens of top government officials, now exposed as a certainty is an offense to every American.
What do we know? We know the conjecture about 9/11 still stands but for certain, we know we were lied to, not in a minor way, but systematically as part of a plot covering up government involvement at nearly every level, perhaps gross negligence, perhaps something with darker intent.
Are we willing to live with another lie to go with the Warren Report, Iran Contra and so many others? Has the sacrifice of thousands more Americans, killed, wounded or irreparably damaged by a war knowingly built on the same lies from the same liars who misled the 9/11 Commission pushed us beyond willingness to confront the truth?
Have we yet found where the lies have begun and ended? There is no evidence of this, only evidence to the contrary. The lies live on and the truth will never be sought. The courage for that task has not been found.
Can anyone call themselves an American if they don't demand, even with the last drop of their blood, that the truth be found?
How long have we watered the Tree of Deceit with the blood of patriots?
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Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran and a regular contributor to Veterans Today. He specializes in political and social issues. You can see a large collection of Gordon's published articles at this link: VeteransToday.com.
He is an outspoken advocate for veterans and his powerful words have brought about change. Gordon is a lifelong PTSD sufferer from his war experiences and he is empathetic to the plight of today's veterans also suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. We greatly appreciate the opportunity to feature Gordon's timely and critical reports on Salem-News.com, a news organization staffed by a number of veterans, particularly former U.S. Marines.
You can send Gordon Duff an email at this address: Gpduf@aol.com |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:06 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
When I started blogging back in January, one of my early posts questioned the belief that Obama's election had ended talk of military action against Iran. I though this view was "almost certainly premature," because I didn't think a rapid diplomatic breakthrough was likely and I knew that advocates of a more forceful approach would soon come out of the woodwork and start pushing the new administration to get tough with Tehran.
Well, I hate to say I told you so, but ... Right on cue, Wednesday's Wall Street Journal had an op-ed from former Senators Dan Coats and Chuck Robb and retired Air Force general Chuck Wald, recommending that Obama "begin preparations for the use of military options" against Iran's nuclear facilities. They argue that keeping the threat of force "on the table" is the only way to achieve a diplomatic solution, but they also make it clear that they favor bombing Iran if diplomacy fails. In their words, "making preparations now will enable the president, should all other measures fail to bring Tehran to the negotiating table, to use military force to retard Iran's nuclear program."
Will we ever learn? As other commentators have noted, many of the most vocal advocates of military action against Iran tend to be the same groups and individuals who saw 9/11 as a good excuse to invade Iraq and start trying to "transform" the Middle East. Plenty of people agree that Iran's nuclear ambitions are a problem, but the loudest voices calling for the threat or use of force tend to be either Israeli hardliners or American neocons. Gee, who woulda thought! It's equally unsurprising that the United Jewish Communities sponsored an "Iran Advocacy Day" in Washington yesterday, featuring appearances by key administration officials and prominent legislators. Its purpose, of course, was to highlight the danger of a nuclear Iran, put pressure on Obama to take a tough line, and to rally support for stiffer sanctions (at a minimum). M.J. Rosenberg called it just right: "it marks the start of the fall push on Iran." |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 794136
United States
11/13/2009 11:07 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
NO.
That's like asking if miss dog shit being on the bottom of your shoe. Unfortunately with Obama we just stepped into gorilla shit, even worse. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:10 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
"Propaganda is not meant to fool the intelligencia, it is merely meant to provide them an excuse to avoid seeing ugly realities, they’d sooner not believe.”
-- Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propagandist, Nuremburg War Crimes Trials |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:12 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
911 Truth WOULD be mainstream...
...if it were not so heavily censored.
It's obvious that the MSM is following Bill O'Reilly's recommendation: "Marginalize, marginalize, marginalize. Never give these people any air time."
What else can they do? The evidence is so overwhelming that 911 was an inside job whose details remain hidden.
Personally, I think the motive for the 911 false flag attack was this:
The Oily Road To 911
[link to www.zmag.org]
The geopolitical stakes are so high that the mainstream media has been used as part and parcel of the overall invasion strategy. To tell a huge lie like the official explanation for 911, you have to combine truth with falsity in just the right balance of confusing misinformation (like Saddam Hussein was responsible for 911, etc). In the case of 911, the physical evidence for falsity is SO utterly powerful, that news media has no choice but to shut down any serious, detailed discussion of it.
How else would the peer-reviewed, scientific paper, "Active Thermitic Material Discovered In The Dust Of The WTC Catastrophe" , have already made it onto ProjectCensored.org for 2009-10?
It's weird. The other morning, I heard Joe Scarborough on "Morning Joe", MSNBC, claim that 34% of the American public believe that George Bush had something to do with 911. Heh, heh... Television media cannot even attempt to disperse that notion without upsetting the whole hornet's nest of FACT that they would necessarily have to deal with. So the cowards keep mum about it even though 1 in 3 Americans independently smell a big, stinking rat. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:14 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
The last command for Major General Albert Stubblebine was head of all Army Strategic Intelligence worldwide. Note his comments about the ridiculous story of an commercial aircraft hitting the Pentagon, a story he mocks openly. Stubblebine disputes by simply pointing out that the 5000-lb engines would have left a very very big mark on the Pentagon building facades, something that remarkably receives little discussion. No such aircraft impact happened, since a missile hit the Pentagon. Just try to imagine a jetplane that evaporated and incinerated without any debris, an utterly absurd tale. Imagine an advanced metal alloy fuselage incinerated and vaporized, even hundreds of seats turned to dust while strewn. Let's all hail the first airline crash in modern history without any debris! It is a miracle! The retired Stubblebine should be careful, but he must know the risks. This entire story is an insult to our intelligence. See the YouTube video clip (CLICK HERE). The tale told for the World Trade Center exploits the ignorance of Americans, who largely failed physics and chemistry in high school. See gravity (11 seconds for demolition freefall, not a pancake staged collapse). See chemistry (jet fuel burns 2000 degrees too low to melt structural steel). Next resort to Aesop's Fables (third WTC building fell after saddened by the collapse of its two big brothers). It is difficult to insult the intelligence of a nation that has little. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:15 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
ODD DEATHS = Cover-up/ Shut-up???
Up until the very last moments of her life, Sept. 11 widow Beverly Eckert poured her grief into action — pushing presidents, lawmakers and even herself to do more to make the country safer.
Eckert was on a commuter plane approaching the Buffalo airport Thursday night when it nose-dived into the ground, killing all aboard and one person on the ground.
[link to www.rotharmy.com]
A former commanding general of the District of Columbia National Guard -- who ordered jets over the Capitol amid the September 11, 2001, terror attacks -- was among those killed in a transit train crash in Washington this week, authorities said Tuesday
[link to www.cnn.com]
The "suicide" of Kenny Johannemann -- a key witness to explosions in the basement of the North Tower.
Barry Jennings, a key 9/11 eyewitness who was an emergency coordinator for the New York Housing Authority, passed away last August 2008 at age 53 from undisclosed circumstances. Mr. Jennings was an eyewitness to the devastation of the World Trade center towers on September 11th 2001. |
| neteru<>
User ID: 815206
United States
11/13/2009 11:15 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
here is your song OP
[link to www.youtube.com]
now cry me a river
Last Edited by neteru<> on 11/13/2009 at 11:31 PM
We have finally come back to the pre-Socratic philosopher Heraclitus, who said everything is flow, flux, process. There are no "things." |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:17 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
Thank georgie, you mass murder cunt. rot in hell you dog.
Victims' families tell their stories following Nato airstrike in Afghanistan
"The villagers were fighting over the corpses. People were saying this is my brother, this is my cousin, and no one could identify anyone."
So the elders stepped in. They collected all the bodies they could and asked the people to tell them how many relatives each family had lost.
A queue formed. One by one the bereaved gave the names of missing brothers, cousins, sons and nephews, and each in turn received their quota of corpses. It didn't matter who was who, everyone was mangled beyond recognition anyway. All that mattered was that they had a body to bury and perform prayers upon. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:17 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
Some seventy million of us have serious questions about 9/11 we want answered according to Zogby.
Here is what I know about 9/11 with at least a 99% degree of confidence.
1) WTC1, WTC2 and WTC7 were brought down with controlled demolitions and nothing but controlled demolitions.
2) WTC1, WTC2 and WTC7 had been wired for controlled demolitions long before 9/11.
3) The "hijhacked" planes were only a diversion to give the masses an apparent reason other than demolitions for the buildings coming down.
4) There was a massive explosion in the Pentagon about 12 minutes before the something struck. This explosion killed at least one person and was viewed by MANY people working in the pentagon.
5) There were dozens of "military drills" ongoing on the morning of 9/11.
These drills
o Posited aircraft striking the WTC and pentagon. Some of these drill aircraft were live airplanes some were computer generated injected into NORAD and other military computers.
o Posited an aircraft striking the National Reconnaissance Office. The head of the NRO stated "Of course when we saw the WTC we canceled our drill and went home."
o Drew numerous east coast airborne assets F 15s, AWACS et al into the Artic to monitor a massive Russian exercise. How convenient of the Russians to schedule this NO?
o Dick Cheney was in charge of many of these drills as per a law passed a couple months prior to 9/11. He personally disabled the pentagon defenses to allow a live boogie aircraft to simulate striking the pentagon.
o MANY people in an official government capacity lied or otherwise covered up evidence about aspects of 9/11.
o The FBIs former top counter terrorism expert died in the rubble of the WTC. So we are told. He appears to have gone somewhere.
o The was no Chairman of the Joint Chiefs on 9/11. The honest general, a terrorism expert, was fired for refusing to take down the 24x7x365 F-15 patrol which loitered in the NYC to Boston Corridor and had a 2 minute and 15 second time to intercept any boggie in the corridor. A proud AF officer General Myers gladly took down the patrol and assumed acting CJCS. Bet they did not teach him that at the AF Academy.
o There are so many "coincidences" and "anomalies" existent in 9/11 that any statistical analysis of 9/11 yields a probability that the official lie happened as a decimal point followed by hundreds of zeros,followed by a lonely one.
There is absolutely NO QUESTION 9/11 was an inside job with about at least 40 of so people aware that they would be deliberately murdering thousands of US Citizens. The rest of the cast of tens of thousands involved in 9/11 were following orders in our oh so hierarchical society. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:19 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
And I think all of us have a sense if we imagine the kind of world we would face if the people who bombed the mess hall in Mosul, or the people who did the bombing in Spain, or the people who attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane over Pennsylvania and attacked the Pentagon..
— Donald Rumsfeld
"shot down the plane over Pennsylvania and attacked the Pentacon" |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:20 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:20 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
President Bush personally asked Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle Tuesday to limit the congressional investigation into the events of September 11.
— CNN - January 29, 2002 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:21 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
The process of [military] transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor.
— Project for a New American Century |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:22 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
Firstly, it wasn't America persay that committed 9/11, it was factions of the U.S. Government as well as other governments that were complicit in it. How else do you explain why almost every single thing that both the government and the mainstream-media touts as being fact is totally proven to be false and a lie ? Dick Cheney took sole and direct control of NORAD for the very first time ever in the history of the United States like a month before 9/11, and then reliquished that control like a month after 9/11. He ordered that the Generals were no longer in charge of the shoot-down orders. He changed the shoot-down order protocols in 2001 before 9/11 actually happened. The thing that should be revealing is how it is so very incredibly clear that demolition brought all 3 of the NYC towers down on that day, and there is the arguement that the terrorists could have planted those explosives in the buildings before-hand, but the media and the government don't even consider that as a possibility. The black-boxes (which are protected by titanium and steel which is indestructable even in a very intense fire) were said to be desintigrated since they were never found, but yet an un-singed paper-passport was found in the rubble, which managed to get out of the pocket of the terrorist which was on-board one of those planes that was engulfed in flames, and was remained un-burned ? I mean c'mon.
Also, Iraq and Afghanistan was only a small part of why 9/11 was committed, compared to the fully total picture of the ultimate agenda. The bigger reason 9/11 was committed was for a Psychological-Operation (PsyOpp) which was instill fear into the American public with such intensity and ferocity that it would stay with them forever, and so that we would then united to fight the very terrorist-organization that even an FBI-Agent now admits was allies with the CIA and the United States all the way up until the very day of 9/11. This fear would cause us to gladly give up more and more of our freedoms and liberties in exchange for promises of security and protection. Does this sound at all familiar yet ? This is exactly what happened in Germany after they admittedly staged terror attacks like the Reichstagg fire as well as other targets at different times.
One of the very biggest reason why so many people don't believe that 9/11 was an inside-job is because they cannot possibly fathom anything like this ever happening in America. But tell me how America is so immune to factions of our government becoming corrupted enough to do this kind of thing. Even way back in 1962 there were plans to stage terror attacks over American-soil involving airliners as a pre-text for the invasion of Cuba. Just look-up Operation Northwoods, as it was partially de-classified in 1998 and then fully de-classified in 2001, the same year as the 9/11 attacks. People just do not think that this kind of tyranny could ever happen in this nation, so they denounce anything that so much as suggests that anybody in America was involved in 9/11. We have to understand that the people that are in power in America (not all of government, but small factions of it enough to be able to control the nation at the very highest echelons of power, and not all members of Congress, but many many of them are indeed part of this agenda), but the people that are in power in America either have ties to Naziism in their families or ties to Satanism or other secret-socities like Skull & Bones, FreeMasons, Etc. Please note, however, that these groups aren't inherently bad, as they are only bad at their higher-rankings, because their lower-rankings commonly do not know what is going on higher on up in the chain of rankings. So when many Masons say that they believe in God and worship God and Jesus Christ, they are being truthful because they aren't the ones that are part of the agenda. Their groups have been subjugated and infiltrated by the evil mind-sets that are hell-bent on power through having total control of their various entities, and then eventually the control of the whole entire world.
So just to make it clear, 9/11-Truthers do not blame America itself for the attacks, but we blame the people that have clearly lied about mostly everything that they have said (both the government and the media which is also establishment-controlled), especially when the very group that they blamed for 9/11 (Al-Quaeda) was working with the CIA all the way up until 9/11. Al-Quaeda was funded with at least $100,000 by the ISI (Pakistani Intelligence Service which originated from Britain) not long before the 9/11 attacks. Really if you ask me it is totally un-American to just sit idlely by when the evidence is just so incredibly clear that our government (factions, mind you) was complicit in the 9/11 attacks and has been covering it up.
How else do you explain why 6 out of the 10 9/11 Commission Members have said that the government agreed to lie about the events surrounding 9/11 ? Henry Kissinger was originally supposed to be heading that panel until he was asked if he had any clients by the name of bin Laden, and so thus he then resigned. Also, FEMA had deployed to New York City and the surrounding areas the night before on September 10th, 2001. The New York Fire Department just happened to be filming a documentary that morning in full sight of the World Trade Center Towers (Now, I know they didn't actually plan it that way themselves, but the factions of the government and media that did know that 9/11 was going to be taking place had made sure that the NYFD would be set-up to be shooting this documentary on the morning of 9/11. Cheney being in direct command of NORAD right before 9/11 and changing the shoot-down protocols so that the generals no longer had that authority any longer. Doesn't this all seem to be a little bit too planned-out to be just mere coincidences ? There were also hundreds of "predctive-programmings" in the media such as TV-Shows, Films, Movies, and even Print-Ads. Check-out [link to www.vyzygoth.com] for the many many many programmings which reach a point where they just cannot be coincidences. One is in the "Lone Gunmen" series which was spun-off from the X-Files. It portrayed terrorists remotely-controlling an airliner, and the conspiracy-theory guys discover that the terrorists are flying the plane into the World Trade Center Towers and this pilot-episode was aired in March 2001. In Super Mario Bros. in 1993 they showed an airplane crashing into one of the World Trade Center towers, and then when they time-travelled into the future, Bowser's Castle was the damaged WTC-Towers. In terms of dialogue, it was very striking looking-back on the "Long Kiss Goodnight" film to hear, "Unfortunately, Mr Hennessey, I have no idea how to fake killing 4,000 people, so we’re just going to have to do it for real. Blame it on the Muslims, naturally. Then I get my funding." But please look at all of these on this linked-page because there are many more that are very much intriguing.
The point with all of this is we need to examine these things in order to realize what is going on. If somebody is one of those people that denounced 9/11-Truthers without having actually examined the evidence yet, they are being hypocrits saying that they know the truth when they don't even take a look at and examine the overwhelming evidences that indict so many government officials as being complicit in executing 9/11. It just seems way too difficult to comprehend that this could happen in America. Well guess what, Germany thought the same exact thing in their nation, which is why they gave up their liberties and freedoms exactly as we have done ever since 1993 WTC, 1995 Oklahoma City, and then obviously since 9/11 also. We just have to realize that even the United States Of America is not immune to tyranny, especially when it is being implemented in a stealthly-manner, unlike Nazi-Germany where it was much more opened. We are getting a Civilian National Security Force that is made-up of many many youth, which is exactly what Adolf Hitler did with the German Youths. If anybody says that there wasn't any government complicity in the events of 9/11, then they haven't looked at the evidence, because there is just so much evidence of this that there is no way to deny it.
Aaron |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:23 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
I'll never forget the treasonous bastard, that butchered so many innocent people so that he could go over and justify to the American people, raping a country of all it's resources, and killing it's population with dupleted Uranium. Thanks to the murderous bastard we elected under the guise of Freedom. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:24 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
WANTED FOR MURDER: DICK CHENEY et al FOR: the criminally unnecessary death of 6000-odd US Troops.
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YES-LET US ***NEVER*** FORGET, IN-FUCKING-DEED
IM CALLING OUT DICK CHENEY FOR MURDER and im calling out PACNWGUY on his phony "Patriotic" GRANDSTANDING
After seeing Dick Cheney and GW Bush in several THEN AND NOW videos on Youtube and all the new youtube type video feed services all over the web as well as print media-Google is your best friend-
I am outraged;
writeups, videoclips of interviews, press conferences
2003: "Iraq has WMDs and we know it- weve seen them- we swear on our mothers graves!-We MUST invade for the future of the world" etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc
2007-8: "We never said Iraq had any WMDs" (!!!)
WELL HOLY Fucking SHIT-ya wanna tell that to the Mothers Fathers Wives and children of the 6000 odd dead soldiers you cheered on into going over there, eh?
2007: interview on CSPAN w/Dick Cheney after question by interviewer:
"I-we NEVER said Iraq had WMDs" said DC sternly
Interviewer: ".....but I have transcripts of your speeches right here...."
DC, Visibly enraged: "LIES! We NEVER said Iraq had WMDs-our words were twisted!"
reporter backs down
IN FUCKING CREDIBLE
FUCKING COWARD doenst even stand for the courage of his (then) convictions
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Given this information-and all the other news about fraudulent and faked "evidence" and the like
I-we- hearby, in the name of the people of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA charge Dick Cheney-The NeoCONs and their ilk ie PACNWGuy
with the MURDER of what-? 6000 of our troops-and one million Iraqis
(You patriotic stance is so phony PACNWGUY-YOU have some answering to do-since you, like a rabid dog sold this war on Iraq to to us a "just"
We remember-every other word on the news, in the news- in the so-called 'Liberal' media was IRAQ HAS WMDs WE MUST INVADE BEFORE S.H. CAN USE THEM ON THE WORLD! etc etc etc etc etc etc etc
Since there was no such danger-AND BUSH/CHENEY knew so-and our loyal and trusting troops went over there based on that assumption
YOU ARE ALL GUILTY OF MURDER
For DICK CHENEY et al=this means arrest>court> charges of TREASON>the gallows>death by hanging as per US Penal Code
I suppose we should add the embezzling of BILLIONS of dollars for the US TREASURY for the war and WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE?
(I wonder if theyll suddenly whine that capitol punishment is 'cruel and unusual' punishment?)
Our duty bound men and women were KNOWINGLY sent there on false pretenses and false information: They were lied to:
THAT IS MURDER
NO AMOUNT of "fake patriotism" will cover up your treasonous lies to get us into this war;
for the rest of you:
The mill of the Gods grinds slowly...BUT they grind EXCEEDING FINE...
(Irish proverb)
DICK CHENEY is a PSYCHOTIC, running free with who knows what plans
Ther is ample eveidence that HE and ONLY HE order the secreet flying of live Nukes on an USAF Transport form Barksdale to Minot AFB last year
ONLY ONE PERSON HAS THE POWER TO INTERVENE and SUPERCEDE ULTRA STRICT NUCLEAR ROUTINES AND PROTOCOLS: DICK CHENEY
fortunately -who know WHERE he had them targeted for IRAN? a US CITY?
(gotta remotiveate the publics dismal view of the war) a whistlblower stoped this
Interesting to note that so far 10 men connected with the shipment are now DEAD all by violent of 'accidental' death;
So peopl-how do you want to remember-to avenge your sons or daughters brothers sisters husband wives needless and wrongfull death?
They were MURDERED just as sure as if DC or GWB held a gun to them personally
Let this go VIRAL
who knows WHAT DR STRANGELOVE HAS UP HIS SLEEVE NEXT?
ITS HIGH TIME WE STOOD UP FOR OUR MURDERED for no reason WARRIORS
-ACT NOW WE ARE SO **SICK** OF GOVERNMENT** (and their stooges) LIES
YOURE DAMN RIGHT WE WILL NEVER FORGET!
WAKE UP AMERICA YOU ARE BEING ROBBED BLIND OF YOUR SONS AND YOUR SAVINGS/JOBS |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:26 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
Demonic force
Since America saw evil on 9/11 we will not be surprised to find evidence of demonic force. Extreme and rapid pulverization of the Twin Towers, the hurling of debris and steel columns great distances horizontally, the blowing out of windows in neighboring buildings—all of this must have been done by the Evil One.
Perhaps it was also the Evil One who created the forceful and focused ejections from the building that are clearly visible in the video record of the collapse? Since they are supernatural occurrences there is no need to take measurements or compare them with the ejections familiar in controlled demolitions.[14]
Temperatures in excess of 2000 degrees Celsius, reached during the destruction of the Towers—far higher than could be achieved through jet fuel and office fires—may, perhaps, be a taste of hellfire?[15]
Evidence that the earth shook several seconds before the buildings began their descent will not surprise us. It was an earth shaking day.[16]
If 9/11 had been an ordinary day, continuous with profane history, we might reasonably connect all this evidence of great force to the large amount of explosive recently discovered in the remains of the Towers.[17] But, of course, it was not an ordinary day and must be protected from such logic. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:27 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
Mass hallucination
There seems to be no explanation but hallucination for the claims of more than 150 witnesses that they perceived explosions in the Twin Towers at or near the time of the collapses.[18] Or were these false visions and auditions conjured up by satanic powers?
One thing is clear: ordinary people standing at the scene of the manifestation cannot be trusted. We must, instead, rely on authorities who were not at the scene. Perhaps we should officially adopt a social epistemology for Canada that assigns all accurate perception to our holy authorities?
Yes. Enough of this tiring and time-consuming dissent!
Let us stand up on 9/11, light our candles, sing our anthem, and mumble phrases about Islamic extremism and its threat to our freedoms. Let us stop up our ears so that we do not hear the voices of the New York firefighters:[19]
“all the way around like a belt, all these explosions”
“a tremendous explosion and tremendous shaking of our building”
“you saw the one floor explode”
“like on television they blow up these buildings…”
“flash flash flash”
“boom, boom, boom, boom”
“shook my bones”
“sucked all the oxygen out of the air”
“like someone had planted explosives”
“like a million firecrackers”
“every floor went chu-chu-chu”
“like it was a timed explosion”
“boom, a massive explosion”
“whole top came off like a volcano”
“a very, very tremendous explosion”
“the way it looks when they show you those implosions on TV”
“a giant, giant explosion”
“in my mind it was a bomb”
“a synchronized deliberate kind of thing”
“I just went flying, maybe 30, 40 feet”
“ like shrapnel”
“everything shook”
“ever see professional demolition?”
“pop, pop, pop, pop, pop”
“like bombs going off, like boom, boom, boom”
“and then just a huge wind”
“the sound was deafening”
“the street was bouncing like a trampoline”
“huge mushroom cloud”
“horrendous noise”
“what the hell blew up?”
“my ears were like deaf…”
“they sounded like bombs”
Dr. Graeme MacQueen taught in the Department of ReligiousStudies and the Centre for Peace at McMaster for many years. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:28 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
NIST: "We are Unable to Provide any Explanation for the Total Collapse of WTC7 that does not contain fraud and lies"
NIST
[link to georgewashington.blogspot.com]
On April 11th, 2007, family members Bill Doyle and Bob McIlvaine, scientists Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan, architect Richard Gage and the group Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice filed a petition with NIST demanding that it correct its erroneous methods and findings.
On September 27th, NIST finally replied.
While the reply is mainly bogus, and the filers of the petition intend to appeal the decision of NIST not to correct the many fatal errors in its reports, attorney James Gourley (who drafted the petition) has pointed out one interesting statement. Specifically, NIST says in its reply:
"We are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse".
Well, yes! That's exactly the point the petitioners are trying to make. No modern steel frame high-rise building has ever collapsed before or after 9/11 due to fire other than at WTC 1, 2 and 7, even though other fires have burned longer and hotter. And even if they somehow did start to collapse, the collapse would not have occurred at virtual free-fall speeds while creating enormous dust clouds right from the start.
So yes . . . NIST will forever be "unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse" unless it stops covering up the evidence that the Twin Towers and Building 7 were brought down by controlled demolition. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:29 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
THE ATASCO-BEDEK CONNECTION
ATASCO USA was, of course, created and owned by the Israeli military and connected to the Mossad, but this information is not easily found.
There has only been one article that I have found that mentions what ATASCO has been doing for the past 36 years in the United States, since it was first created by the Israeli Defense Ministry in 1971.
That article, entitled "Ugandan Plane Deal Believed Key to Israeli Spy Operation," was published in the Washington Post of September 11, 1978.
This investigative article, which involved an international team of journalists that included an Israeli, focused on the "mysterious Israeli tycoon and the Mossad, Israeli's intelligence service" and how they had provided the Ugandan dictator Idi Amin with two Boeing 707 jetliners as part of an Israeli effort to spy on Libya.
The "big winner" and tycoon in this Mossad spying operation was Shaul Nehemia Eisenberg (1921-1997), "the reclusive Israeli entrepreneur at its center."
Eisenberg was, as the Washington Post reported in 1978, the central figure in the Mossad spying operation on Libya:
The chief Eisenberg firm in these deals was Aircraft Trading and Services Inc., or Atasco. Headquartered in Asia House, Eisenberg's luxury building in Tel Aviv, Atasco also has branches in the "Eisenberg Building" in New York and in London.
Atasco was put together in 1971 by executives of Israeli Aircraft Industries, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Israeli Defense Ministry that makes planes and missiles.
Eisenberg got into Atasco as an equal partner with Israeli Aircraft for $500,000 in cash. After the 1973 Middle East War, Israeli Aircraft, staggered by scandals, sold its share in Atasco to Eisenberg, leaving him its sole owner.
The rest of Atasco's original capital, $5 million, came from the U.S. Export-Import Bank, which is supposed to make loans to promote American exports.
The Ex-Im Bank certainly found the right man in Eisenberg. He quickly turned into an eager customer for Pan American Airways' used Boeing 707s.
Atasco bought 12 or 15 of the advance series "C" 707s that Pan Am was selling and purchased six out of ten earlier series "C" 707s being sold by the airline.
At its Israeli hangars, currently jammed with 707s bearing obscure markings, Atasco remodels the interiors to suit customers and paints on their proud colors - Iran Air, Tarom of Romania, Uganda Airlines.
In May 1976, Atasco sold the 707 that was once Pan Am's "Clipper Jupiter" to a firm in Zurich , which dealt it on to Amin.
Intelligence sources say that the head of this Zurich firm is a 15-year veteran of Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, and the firm is an agency "laundry." It exists, these sources say, to pass on Mossad funds for deals in which the Israeli secret service is interested.
The Washington Post, one of the most important newspapers in the United States, is a leading national newspaper of record. Oddly, however, the extremely important information contained in this article about ATASCO was never repeated in any of the subsequent articles in which this mysterious company was mentioned. For example, when Gerald L. Gitner, a key aviation executive with Pan Am, TWA, and a host of smaller airlines, was appointed Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of ATASCO USA, Inc.
In 1986, when Gitner became CEO of the Israeli-owned company with a documented history of murky business, it was simply described as a New York aircraft leasing and brokerage company. ATASCO's previously published history of involvement in Mossad operations was never mentioned.
Gitner, who was CEO of Mossad's "privately held" aircraft leasing and maintenance company until 1990, was involved in the dismemberment and selling off of the assets of the once prosperous Pan Am and TWA airlines.
In October 1986, when Gitner was appointed CEO of the Mossad-run ATASCO U.S.A. Inc., he was or had been a senior executive with PanAm Corp. and TWA. He was the president of Texas Air Corp., the holding company for Continental Airlines and New York Air, when he was appointed president and CEO of ATASCO U.S.A., "a private aviation concern involved in commercial aircraft leasing and heavy aircraft maintenance."
Gitner was also co-founder and president of People Express Airlines. The Houston Chronicle of October 3, 1986, however, only identified ATASCO as "an aircraft leasing and brokerage company."
EISENBERG - "WORLD ENTREPRENEUR"
In November 1982, when Eisenberg became involved in the Tregaron deal and tried to take over a large piece of prime real estate in Washington, D.C., the Washington Post wrote about Mossad's "world entrepreneur" and their point man in China - and Panama:
Eisenberg was profiled in a 1981 Business Week article as a businessman of enormous wealth, diversity of business interests, and a proclivity for secretiveness in his dealings. He owns a worldwide network of corporations. His largest company, United Development Inc., was set up in Panama in 1960.
Eisenberg essentially acts as a middleman, according to reports on his dealings, assembling consortiums of manufacturers, builders and banks to construct industrial facilities of all types.
Since Eisenberg was the "sole owner" of ATASCO since 1973, the Mossad's "aircraft trading and services" company naturally began its murky business on the American continent in Panama.
In 1978 the Washington Post reported that there were "frequent but unsubstantiated reports that Eisenberg operates mostly from Central America." Eisenberg was the "Panamanian honorary general consul in Tel Aviv," the Post reported.
The first mention of ATASCO other than the 1978 article in the Washington Post was in the New York Times on October 29, 1981, when it reported that Emery Air Freight had purchased a Boeing 727-100 from Atasco-Panama.
IDF - ISRAELI DRUG FORCES?
Israel Aircraft Industries also has a branch, IAI Sucursal Colombia, in Bogota, Colombia. Colombia is a nation better known for the production and distribution of cocaine than aircraft. Why would IAI establish aircraft leasing and maintenance facilities in Colombia and Panama?
Is airlifting drugs a central part of the IAI operations in Latin America? Does the Mossad use IAI facilities in Colombia to run its own drug smuggling routes to fund its operations? Does Mossad drug smuggling involve American politicians and intelligence agencies which it then controls?
Israelis and their weapons are all over Latin America. Here a Colombian military chief tries out Israeli weapons during a visit to Israel.
There are a number of indications that the Mossad is deeply involved in the Colombian drug trade. The horde of Mossad operatives who were disguised as Israeli art students in the years prior to 9-11 were known to have been targeting the offices and personnel of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA). Why would the Mossad be seeking to penetrate the DEA if it were not involved in drug smuggling?
It is also well known that Israeli gangs are heavily involved in illicit drug smuggling. A disproportionately large number of Israelis have been arrested in Europe and the United States with large amounts of narcotics and synthetic drugs such as Ecstasy. Are these the small fry of a much larger Israeli presence in the illegal drug trade?
The rumors about the Bush and Clinton families being involved in large scale drug smuggling operations are legion. From George H.W. Bush's days in the Texas oil business and as head of the CIA to his position as a director of the Prozac giant Eli Lilly and Co., the drug trade is a central part of the Bush family legend.
The allegations about Gov. Bill Clinton's involvement in the drug smuggling operation in Mena, Arkansas are also legion. Aircraft were used to smuggle drugs and weapons through the airport in Mena in the 1980s while Gov. Clinton protected the entire operation.
"Given the scope and implications of the Mena story, it may be easy to understand the media's initial skepticism and reluctance," Sally Denton and Roger Morris wrote in their July 1995 article "The Crimes of Mena":
Mena, from 1981 to 1985, was indeed one of the centers for international smuggling traffic. According to official I.R.S. and D.E.A. calculations, sworn court testimony, and other corroborative records, the traffic amounted to thousands of kilos of cocaine and heroin and literally hundreds of millions of dollars in drug profits. According to a 1986 letter from the Louisiana attorney general to then U.S. attorney general Edwin Meese, [Adler Berriman Seal, or "Barry"] Seal "smuggled between $3 billion and $5 billion of drugs into the U.S."
Adler Berriman Seal had been a pilot with TWA from 1966 to 1974, according to his on-line biography. Gitner, who began his career at TWA in 1968 was a vice president when he also left TWA in 1974 to join the much smaller Texas International Airlines.
The numerous reports and allegations of involvement in drug smuggling are what the Bush and Clinton families have in common. These are the families which have dominated the executive branch of the United States government since 1981. There has been either a Bush or Clinton in the White House for the past 26 years, since January 1981.
Is the illegal drug business the central criminal activity that the Bush and Clinton families have participated in with the Israeli Mossad?
If the reports, allegations, and rumors are true, the illegal drug trade is where the interests of the Bush family, the Clintons, the CIA, and the Mossad all come together. This would explain the choice to invade and occupy Afghanistan, where opium production is now at record levels after having been nearly eradicated under the Taliban regime.
This would explain the unusual pressure to medicate the 9-11 relatives.
It appears that drug smuggling could very well be the illegal enterprise at the center of the criminal network behind 9-11. This is a subject that certainly deserves further investigation.
"CLIPPER JUPITER" AND ZIMEX AVIATION
In the 1978 article about Eisenberg and the Mossad the Washington Post reported that ATASCO had sold the Boeing 707, which had been Pan Am's "Clipper Jupiter," to a firm in Zurich, which had immediately transferred ownership to Idi Amin in Uganda:
Intelligence sources say that the head of this Zurich firm is a 15-year veteran of Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, and the firm is an agency 'laundry.' It exists, these sources say, to pass on Mossad funds for deals in which the Israeli secret service is interested.
Pan Am's "Clipper Jupiter," with tail registration number N766PA, was sold to a Zurich-based company called Zimex Aviation on May 12, 1976. The same day, Zimex Aviation transferred the plane with a new tail number, 5X-UAL, to Uganda Airlines.
The "15-year veteran of Mossad" would be Hans Ziegler, who headed Zimex as reported in The Oregonian on August 22, 1988:
Charles Hanner, then a Page [Airways] vice president, testified by deposition that he had been introduced to Amin by Hans Ziegler, a veteran agent of Mossad, the Israeli military intelligence service. Ziegler's Swiss company, Zimex Aviation, had sold a number of aircraft to Middle Eastern potentates and to Amin's friend Moammar Khadafy, the Libyan dictator. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817734
Australia
11/13/2009 11:30 PM | | Re: Does anyone else miss George W. Bush? | Quote |
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
__________________________________________________________​_________________
For Immediate Release September 10, 2009
NOTICE
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CONTINUATION OF THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY WITH RESPECT
TO CERTAIN TERRORIST ATTACKS
Consistent with section 202(d) of the National Emergencies Act, 50 U.S.C. 1622(d), I am continuing for 1 year the national emergency declared on September 14, 2001, in Proclamation 7463, with respect to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, and the continuing and immediate threat of further attacks on the United States.
Because the terrorist threat continues, the national emergency declared on September 14, 2001, and the powers and authorities adopted to deal with that emergency, must continue in effect beyond September 14, 2009. Therefore, I am continuing in effect for an additional year the national emergency the former President declared on September 14, 2001, with respect to the terrorist threat.
This notice shall be published in the Federal Register and transmitted to the Congress.
BARACK OBAMA
THE WHITE HOUSE,
September 10, 2009.
[link to www.whitehouse.gov] |
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